Royal Match side bet?

I saw some casinos offer this side bet. It pays 3 to 1 for suited hand.
I've never spent my time on studying this. But I think if the penetration is good, it should be very profitable to count it.

Does any one count for this bet before?
Another question, can I bet big amount for side bet? For instance, bet 5 dollars for original blackjack play, and bet 100 for the Royal Match side bet?

Quote: WangSanJose

I saw some casinos offer this side bet. It pays 3 to 1 for suited hand.
I've never spent my time on studying this. But I think if the penetration is good, it should be very profitable to count it.

Does any one count for this bet before?
Another question, can I bet big amount for side bet? For instance, bet 5 dollars for original blackjack play, and bet 100 for the Royal Match side bet?

I've never seen a casino where your bet on the side bet can exceed your bet on the base hand. It's definitely countable, but you also have a 3.8% house edge to overcome. And only 2 or 3 hands per deck in a single deck game.

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Where I work it's only 2.5:1 for a simple match, and I believe you can bet up to $50 regardless of the amount of the contract bet.

Quote: MonkeyMonkey

Where I work it's only 2.5:1 for a simple match, and I believe you can bet up to $50 regardless of the amount of the contract bet.

Usually it's 2.5:1 on a multi-deck game, and 3:1 in single deck. the royal match is 25:1 in multi-deck and 10:1 in single deck.

Quote: rdw4potus

I've never seen a casino where your bet on the side bet can exceed your bet on the base hand. It's definitely countable, but you also have a 3.8% house edge to overcome. And only 2 or 3 hands per deck in a single deck game.

While doing my Santa Fe Station review, I somehow was able to convince them to let me play only the sidebet on UTH and not the base game. (I saw another guy doing it). Of course that's what I want to play since it only has a house edge of 1.9% versus the 2.2% of the base game. If I recall I hit a flush and a straight and finished up $5. Only place I've ever been allowed to do that.

Quote: WangSanJose

I saw some casinos offer this side bet. It pays 3 to 1 for suited hand.
I've never spent my time on studying this. But I think if the penetration is good, it should be very profitable to count it.

Does any one count for this bet before?
Another question, can I bet big amount for side bet? For instance, bet 5 dollars for original blackjack play, and bet 100 for the Royal Match side bet?

I think it depends on the casino. I have seen people regularly put huge sums of money on the side bet at El Cortez while only betting a nominal amount on the main game.

A previous opinion on counting the RM

Quote: rdw4potus

I've never seen a casino where your bet on the side bet can exceed your bet on the base hand. It's definitely countable, but you also have a 3.8% house edge to overcome. And only 2 or 3 hands per deck in a single deck game.

Most of the Kansas City casinos (save Argosy) allow side bet wagers to be more than the base bet. This is common on the 21+3 side bet, and at Ameristar KC, not only will you see people bet more on the 3-card, they are betting on everybody's hands. When they eliminated the loss limits, for about 3 weeks it was a free-for-all on the chips going around.

In Arnold Snyders Big Book of Blackjack he presents a counting method for RM. Basically you keep track of the balance between the suits in the deck and when there are a lot of cards of one suit left in the deck the player has the advantage on the RM bet. These advantages reach from 1% to a whopping 20%. But these situations appear rarely. So do not expect to make a living from this bet. I know that the max bet for RM at the El Cortez is $25.

Good Luck

I saw this side bet @ El Cortez~
I think if I can bet big amount, I would wong in for this bet. But if I can only bet as high as my base bet, it's not worth to count it.
Since using Hi-Lo to keep tracking become very comfortable for lots of people, I think some people still have energy to count for RM.
Another thing is, I didn't see RM bet at any strip casino. So I assume it's hard to make big money.

You're RM bet is independent from your BJ bet. So you can bet $5 and $25 for RM.

Is there any specific system to count RM?

Quote: rdw4potus

I've never seen a casino where your bet on the side bet can exceed your bet on the base hand. It's definitely countable, but you also have a 3.8% house edge to overcome. And only 2 or 3 hands per deck in a single deck game.

Mohegan Sun for one. Bet $5 on your blackjack hand and feel free to bet from $1-$200 on Match the Dealer or the In Between Bet.

Where I work the RM isn't the most popular side bet, but I've seen many players (at all our tables that offer side bets) that seem to be playing the minimum on the bj hand just so they can play the side bet. They'll miss hitting the side bet, but get a blackjack and be bummed out about it.

I've seen quite frequently, a "Crown Treasure" addition to the Royal Match...If you get a Royal Match & The dealer does too, it pays 1000:1 (or maybe it's just $1000)
The max bet I've seen on the RM is $25...

Alright, first you have to verify that the game you're going to play is single deck and the payouts are 3-1 for an easy match and 10-1 for a royal match. This is very important. Next you want to find a relatively full table (5-7 players). Make sure that the dealer deals at least 2 rounds.

In the first round of play you are looking for a suit that has come out excessively off the top, and count until you see at least seven of that suit. If that's the case you must verify that there is at least one suit where no cards have been dealt. Example: in the first round there are 8 hearts dealt but no clubs: Place the bet in the second round! Example 2: There have been 11 spades dealt (wow), but from all other suits at least 1: Sorry, no advantage.

That's it! For 7 cards dealt your advantage is somewhere between 1% and 3%, for 8 between 3% and 10% and for 9 between 6% and 20%. But remember, there has to be always at least 1 suit that hasn't been dealt.

All credits go to Arnold Snyder.

One advantage I've seen on RM is if they cards are new. Because of the way they are washed then put in the shuffler the first hour or so tends to result in a lot of simple match hits. YMMV. :)

It seems, based on no math (lol), that if you played a single deck table that was full, and there were two rounds and enough players, it could be profitable to make this bet if no Queens or Kings have been dealt, that it could become profitable. But obviously, suit correlation is more important.