Worst plays you've ever witnessed

In Craps, the Darksiders tend to be just as bad as any middle-table bettors.

We saw a real moron during the eclipse down in NC; apologies to those who've read this before.

Like [I'd estimate] at least 1 in 3 darksiders, probably half of them, he takes 'no action' on the 6 and 8 to resolve. And the guy was putting a bunch of black chips on the Don't, probably $1000. I tried to converse with him, but he wouldn't give me the time of day. It was 10x so of course he could have reduced his bet and used the free odds to fill out the $1000, but no. I can hear him thinking "it's stupid to get paid less than even".

Then he gets an 8 to resolve, so naturally he moves the entire stack to the DC - "I have bad luck with those numbers" of course being a good reason to do that - in his mind. He then got a 4 to resolve, and I think he won it.

The table had been cold for right-siders up till then, but he seemed to just be staying even with that win. When it warmed up a bit for a while it delivered some blows to our boy and he was gone. As Right-siders we all agreed we lost money, plenty, on that particular session. Yet this brilliant Darkside player walked away a loser.

Quote: odiousgambit

In Craps, the Darksiders tend to be just as bad as any middle-table bettors.

We saw a real moron during the eclipse down in NC; apologies to those who've read this before.

Like [I'd estimate] at least 1 in 3 darksiders, probably half of them, he takes 'no action' on the 6 and 8 to resolve. And the guy was putting a bunch of black chips on the Don't, probably $1000. I tried to converse with him, but he wouldn't give me the time of day. It was 10x so of course he could have reduced his bet and used the free odds to fill out the $1000, but no. I can hear him thinking "it's stupid to get paid less than even".

Then he gets an 8 to resolve, so naturally he moves the entire stack to the DC - "I have bad luck with those numbers" of course being a good reason to do that - in his mind. He then got a 4 to resolve, and I think he won it.

The table had been cold for right-siders up till then, but he seemed to just be staying even with that win. When it warmed up a bit for a while it delivered some blows to our boy and he was gone. As Right-siders we all agreed we lost money, plenty, on that particular session. Yet this brilliant Darkside player walked away a loser.

Buy the bet off of them!!

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Buy the bet off of them!!

The only AP move in Craps !

assuming random throws and no cheating.

Buying the bet was very much on my mind, which is why I tried to start a conversation. Unfortunately, he was unapproachable, wouldn't even chat. I am finding that this is pretty typical of darksiders, the less they know what they are doing the more clammed up they are.

I was not going to offer anyway unless he lowered his bet size to somewhere reasonable.

Quote: odiousgambit

... I was not going to offer anyway unless he lowered his bet size to somewhere reasonable.

Can you buy a portion?

When I used to play craps a bit there was a couple of players that I knew who I would let piggy back odds on. Because I am not in love with variance and wanted my bankroll to last, at a $5 3/4/5 Crap Table I might play $10/$12/$15 odds on the numbers (4/10, 5/9, 6/8). I would let a couple of players put the odds up to the max and I would calculate and send payment when they came through.

I didn't have a problem doing that with players I am familiar with, but it's only happened a couple of times over the years.

Quote: boymimbo

When I used to play craps a bit there was a couple of players that I knew who I would let piggy back odds on. Because I am not in love with variance and wanted my bankroll to last, at a $5 3/4/5 Crap Table I might play $10/$12/$15 odds on the numbers (4/10, 5/9, 6/8). I would let a couple of players put the odds up to the max and I would calculate and send payment when they came through.

I didn't have a problem doing that with players I am familiar with, but it's only happened a couple of times over the years.

I got to do that for the first time recently. It was a very winning strategy for me, and for the other person too, I think.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Can you buy a portion?

whoa, good luck making it complicated if you are dealing with a stranger. Keeping it simple is challenge enough even though you can afford to give a little up on wins to sweeten the pot. Perhaps someone with the knack has better luck getting someone to go along with it, they tend to be very suspicious. And, as noted, prospects tend to be weirdos to begin with. Plus they can't be playing 'correctly' or there is no opportunity.

I saw one on Saturday night I couldn’t believe. Playing six-deck blackjack … the guy to my left gets Q7 for an obvious 17. Dealer upcard is an 8. After I play my hand (don’t remember what I had), this guy DOUBLES his hard 17 and hits a 3 for 20. Even the ploppies were stunned at this move. The dealer didn’t blink, kept going, and ultimately wound up with a 10 down card for an 18.

A month ago I was playing craps and I guy on the table said he has seen me play many times and wanted to do what I was doing. I told him I was done for the day with a W... as rule number 1 is not to get too greedy. I told him I would be back the next day at the same time if he wanted to play.

Sure enough, I was there the next day at the same time... and so was he. Nice guy. We were cool. He asked me if I would mind if he played the same bets as me. I told him he has his free will do do whatever he likes... but Im not responsible for your win or your loss.. just do what you want.

First run around the table was beautiful. I hit 1 to 2 numbers on each shooter and went off. I stayed off one shooter because he played with the dice too long and tried to set them... well, he 7 out immediately. Good move. The guy next to me was actually betting big.. 500 per number. He did exactly what I was doing. He was up about 4500. Mind you, if he had stayed on every shooter without going off, he would have been broke quick... but we were up money.

I told him that I was leaving with the W and tomorrow is another day. He started getting greedy and lost all discipline and kept playing.... and not going off after a couple numbers. I stood and watched... I tried to tell him not to lose discipline.. he just kept playing and never went off....Needless to say, he lost everything very quickly. What a Fu$%ing loser! Sad.

Quote: WatchMeWin

... as rule number 1 is not to get too greedy.

(Jeff Foxworthy voice) IF rule #1 of your betting system is "not to get too greedy".... youuuuuuuuuu might not be an AP.

Quote: Romes

(Jeff Foxworthy voice) IF rule #1 of your betting system is "not to get too greedy".... youuuuuuuuuu might not be an AP.

Its not a 'system' . It is a style of play on principle, discipline, management, consistency, and proven success.

Why is "keep playing" being greedy but "coming back tomorrow" isn't?

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Why is "keep playing" being greedy but "coming back tomorrow" isn't?

Good point... yes , greedy in the sense that you want more, but for me, it must come in pieces. Thats my history of success anyway. Lots of singles and doubles, but not looking for the home run at one shot. Chip Chip Chip....

Quote: WatchMeWin

Its not a 'system' . It is a style of play on principle, discipline, management, consistency, and proven success.

(Jeff Foxworth voice) IF you say your "style of play" is built on proooooven success, even though you have zero mathematics to back it up, youuuuuuuuuuuuu might not be an AP.

Quote: Romes

(Jeff Foxworth voice) IF you say your "style of play" is built on proooooven success, even though you have zero mathematics to back it up, youuuuuuuuuuuuu might not be an AP.

I never said I was an AP, nor have I ever claimed to be one. I just know how to win... and I love it!

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

A friend of mine told me his friend accidentally threw away a dealt flush only to draw another flush in the same suit.

That's common on a VLT.

Quote: billryan

That's common on a VLT.

I asked about that. Happened here in Detroit. None of them here.

Quote: AxelWolf

Ya, that seems to be the most common game to do it on. You probably would not make that mistake on a JOB where you don't go for inside straights anyways.

I missed your response, sorry about that. You're correct, and on those few occasions that I've done it accidentally, it's been because there is a proper inside straight draw that could be held at the same time, (think 5, 6, 9, 10, 7) and I've just hit the wrong button. If it was something like 5, 6, 9, K, 7, or 5, 6, 10, K, 7; I don't think I have ever made that mistake.

One day after having a sleepless night I had to go do some shopping with my GF. I didn't have time for anything other than getting dressed. Lucky for me, my greed is good T-shirt was mostly clean.

I was very hungry, very dehydrated and I was in a very foul mood. My GF told me if I was going to be grumpy the entire time, I should just go hang out someplace untill she was done shopping. I called her the B and C word and stomped off to the car.

The closest place was a Dotty's. I really dislike the Dotty's chain for various negative reasons, but I went anyways. When I arrived at Dottys I double parked between the expected mothers and a handicap parking spot. I figured there was no good reason for a pregnant lady to be at Dottys anyways, and the non-handicap parking at Dottys is just as close and the handicapped ones.

As I was getting out of my cars some homeless guy ask to wash my windows. I said, "sure" and then I stiffed him. He told me I had negative energy and my aura was black as coal. I lured him closer with a C note, and instead of giving it to him, I said, "NO SH*T", and then I tripped him.

I saw a Miata in the parking lot with a #MeToo sticker, so I used my key to scratch in #WhoCares.

Soon after I got into Dottys, I sat down and put the same C note that I lured and deprived that bum with. I had full intentions of losing that $100 within just a few hands, But instead, I quickly hit a big jackpot. That didn't even make me happy. The attendant quickly came over and said, "congratulationsssss". I knew that had to be his Miata, so I told him that I just saw some bum scratching it and how I tripped him before he did any more damage.

After getting paid my Jackpot(I told him I would tip just before I left because I didn't want everyone to see how much I was going to give him), I could have walked away, but instead, I looked at my greed is good t-shirt and continued to play. I assumed I would just give it all back, I was very positive I was going to lose it all. Within a few minutes, I quickly hit a bigger jackpot. The attendant quickly came over again and said, "congratulationsssss, I love when people hit big jackpots." I replied, "ME TOO", and left without tipping.

And then I was....




Some of the details may have been changed for dramatic and sarcastic purposes.

A few of our fellow members may have changed all of their stories facts and details for dramatic purposes.

Negative and positive energy when it comes to gambling is total BS. It's just another confirmation biased thing. There may be games like poker where things like that can affect you, especially your image at the table good or bad. If you are winning there is a chance others will be less likely to challenge you, and if you are losing some people will prey on you. I have no doubt that there are people who play above their normal bankroll and bet size or stay longer when they are in a bad mood or have a negative mindset.

I saw a guy just hold a ten of spades on ddb, think he was vulturing ux, to make it worse. Not only did he play badly, he took opportunity from others.

Not a bad play, but some guy was hitting the high limit room up on slots, told me he lost his winnings because the waitress switched his alcohol up which screwed up his luck. He blamed the alcohol of all things, not because he was drinking, but because he was given a different alcohol.

It was also funny, think he scammed the casino out of $11. Said he left $11 in the machine when he went to the restroom and when he came back it was gone. It wasn't cashed out, $11, couldn't have been played, because of minimum $20 bet, but they gave it to him.

Quote: AxelWolf

One day after having a sleepless night ...

Axel! you may have a career as a humorist!

Quote: odiousgambit

Axel! you may have a career as a humorist!

Good, because he will never make it as an A.P.

Quote: odiousgambit

Axel! you may have a career as a humorist!

Agreed! That was extremely well-written!

Best part is knowing it was written with OSK.

I saw someone stand on 6-6 and double hard 6 against an ace, both on the same hand very recently. Dealer had a two card hard 19.

Quote: mcallister3200

I saw someone stand on 6-6 and double hard 6 against an ace, both on the same hand very recently. Dealer had a two card hard 19.

I'm not following this. How does dealer both have a hard 19 and be showing an ace?

Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm not following this. How does dealer both have a hard 19 and be showing an ace?

#GotEm

Quote: RS

#GotEm

Whaaaa..?

Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm not following this. How does dealer both have a hard 19 and be showing an ace?

Yeah your right. It was A,8. Just meant to say it was a two card 19.

It’s possible, but not with two cards, dealer hit a a,6 with two consecutive sixes or some similar hit soft 17 into a stiff scenario, would be a hard 19 with ace showing.

The last time I was in Vegas, while staying at the GN, I took the deuce to Paris for a little while. There was a man/woman (probably husband and wife) making off setting pass line and don't pass line bets with odds to whore comps. I couldn't care less and nobody in the pit seemed to notice but the husband didn't hedge the don't pass on the come out roll when someone hit a streak of 3 or 4 12's over a 6 roll span- at $300 a pop for them.

I just kept place betting my 6 & 8. What did I care?

Quote: Lucca3927

The last time I was in Vegas, while staying at the GN, I took the deuce to Paris for a little while. There was a man/woman (probably husband and wife) making off setting pass line and don't pass line bets with odds to whore comps. I couldn't care less and nobody in the pit seemed to notice but the husband didn't hedge the don't pass on the come out roll when someone hit a streak of 3 or 4 12's over a 6 roll span- at $300 a pop for them.

I just kept place betting my 6 & 8. What did I care?

Should they hedge it? The, "12,' has a worse House Edge than the Line Bets, (by a lot) so maybe they had some idea as to the comp value and determined that the value would not be in excess of the House Edge if they were to make the bet on the 12. I understand that you can control your maximum loss on a hand that way, just playing Devil's Advocate. The House Edge still works against them whether they are hedging or not. Thus, speaking in terms of expectation, they expect to lose less money not hedging the 12.

So many to talk of... but last week there was a guy who just kept digging into his pocket pulling out 200 at a time and hopped numbers. He just kept going back an forth with different numbers on different rolls. 1st roll... hop the 9s, next roll hop the 5s, etc..never staying with one number, just jumping all over the place. One of the stupidest plays Ive ever seen on a craps game. Needless to say, he didn't hit any of them after blowing 1000 quickly. Nevertheless, if he would have at least stayed with just one number repeatedly... he would have hit it a couple of times (like the 9) but he was so erratic and tilting that he was going all over the place.

Quote: WatchMeWin

So many to talk of... but last week there was a guy who just kept digging into his pocket pulling out 200 at a time and hopped numbers. He just kept going back an forth with different numbers on different rolls. 1st roll... hop the 9s, next roll hop the 5s, etc..never staying with one number, just jumping all over the place. One of the stupidest plays Ive ever seen on a craps game. Needless to say, he didn't hit any of them after blowing 1000 quickly. Nevertheless, if he would have at least stayed with just one number repeatedly... he would have hit it a couple of times (like the 9) but he was so erratic and tilting that he was going all over the place.

Other than the fact he was playing hop bets, or craps at all for that matter. How is this the "WORST PLAYS YOU'VE EVER WITNESSED"? You are suggesting his method "going all over the place" is somehow an inferior method. You are suggesting he should have stayed with one number as if it/he was due.

Can I nominate your post as one of the worst posts about the worst plays you've witnessed?

Your post didn't feel right, it's as if it was missing something.

Oh ya, you didn't tell us how much money you made that night.

Quote: WatchMeWin

So many to talk of... but last week there was a guy who just kept digging into his pocket pulling out 200 at a time and hopped numbers. He just kept going back an forth with different numbers on different rolls. 1st roll... hop the 9s, next roll hop the 5s, etc..never staying with one number, just jumping all over the place. One of the stupidest plays Ive ever seen on a craps game. Needless to say, he didn't hit any of them after blowing 1000 quickly. Nevertheless, if he would have at least stayed with just one number repeatedly... he would have hit it a couple of times (like the 9) but he was so erratic and tilting that he was going all over the place.

I don’t see that as a horrible play at all.

Quote: AxelWolf

Other than the fact he was playing hop bets, or craps at all for that matter. How is this the "WORST PLAYS YOU'VE EVER WITNESSED"? You are suggesting his method "going all over the place" is somehow an inferior method. You are suggesting he should have stayed with one number as if it/he was due.

Can I nominate your post as one of the worst posts about the worst plays you've witnessed?

Your post didn't feel right, it's as if it was missing something.

Oh ya, you didn't tell us how much money you made that night.

While it might not be all that bad on a normal table, it was made worse because the guy could have cleaned up just by shadowing WMW's bets.

Not as bad as some of these, but when playing UTH, people not going 4X on big hands (two paint cards all the way up to pocket kings!) because "they lost the last time they played it" or something similar.

People that go 3X in general for UTH as well.

I dealt blackjack to a guy years ago, when most of you were in diapers. He doubled down on his blackjack against my (dealer) 10. He got some crap card like a 4 or 5. He ended up winning.

Quote: billryan

While it might not be all that bad on a normal table, it was made worse because the guy could have cleaned up just by shadowing WMW's bets.

Agree. He would have!

Quote: AxelWolf

Other than the fact he was playing hop bets, or craps at all for that matter. How is this the "WORST PLAYS YOU'VE EVER WITNESSED"? You are suggesting his method "going all over the place" is somehow an inferior method. You are suggesting he should have stayed with one number as if it/he was due.

Can I nominate your post as one of the worst posts about the worst plays you've witnessed?

Your post didn't feel right, it's as if it was missing something.

Oh ya, you didn't tell us how much money you made that night.

hmmm.... back at it, huh Ax. Round 3!

Oh ya, it was in the 300-500 range. The usual. Something you aren't equipped to do nor accustomed to. But hopefully you took my advice and loaded on the Eagles and over. It would have been a shame to go against me as you indicated you might.

I once bought stock in Enron. And NTEK now that I think about it. Far worse than doubling a hard 19 against a 5.......

Quote: RS

I dealt blackjack to a guy years ago, when most of you were in diapers. He doubled down on his blackjack against my (dealer) 10. He got some crap card like a 4 or 5. He ended up winning.

Those who were in diapers when you were dealing, are likely still in diapers. Not sure what you call a young curmudgeon, but you're pioneering the way. Just wait til you get a lawn. You'll be a holy terror.

EB would be proud.

Not a bad play, but i overheard a guy on the Casino War table say "Ive played this before so i need to sit at 3rd base"

Quote: Mission146

Should they hedge it? The, "12,' has a worse House Edge than the Line Bets, (by a lot) so maybe they had some idea as to the comp value and determined that the value would not be in excess of the House Edge if they were to make the bet on the 12. I understand that you can control your maximum loss on a hand that way, just playing Devil's Advocate. The House Edge still works against them whether they are hedging or not. Thus, speaking in terms of expectation, they expect to lose less money not hedging the 12.

Well, I never said that it was a particularly smart thing to do. Personally, I don't play for comps but lots of people do-and overextend themselves. In the end it's their money.

Has anyone ever seen a Martingdale blow up in somene's face? After all, it's a perfect system UNTIL that one time that it isn't.

I nominate Ax's decision to change his mind on betting the Eagles because I loved them and he thought I couldn't possibly keep winning and that I would lose. That was an incredibly dumb move trying to be slick... and has to be the Worst Move EVER!

(Edited to remove personal insult with WMW concurrence.)

Quote: Lucca3927

Has anyone ever seen a Martingdale blow up in somene's face? After all, it's a perfect system UNTIL that one time that it isn't.

Oh. Yeah. Happens often in PGP, especially those consortiums where one person plays for 8 or 10 who've pooled their money and are standing in a clump behind them. The stacks get almost a foot high as they keep doubling up (usually a positive Martingale). I had to get past being nervous on their behalf. So much out there, as much as 5k on a $5 min table.

Quote: SOOPOO

I once bought stock in Enron. And NTEK now that I think about it. Far worse than doubling a hard 19 against a 5.......

I bought $300 worth of Adelphia stock after their scandal and AFTER they filed bankruptcy. I was hoping someone would bail them out and my 3000 shares would make me rich. Well Adelphia was removed from the ticker and my 300 went with it.

Quote: WatchMeWin

I nominate Ax's decision to change his mind on betting the Eagles because I loved them and he thought I couldn't possibly keep winning and that I would lose. That was an incredibly dumb move trying to be slick... and has to be the Worst Move EVER! (edited per WMW request)

I'm pretty sure that Axel has forgotten more about winning and getting the W than you will ever know. You are embarrassing yourself.

Quote: MaxPen

I'm pretty sure that Axel has forgotten more about winning and getting the W than you will ever know. You are embarrassing yourself.

Apparently not. (Edited to remove personal insult with WMW concurrence.)

Quote: WatchMeWin

I nominate Ax's decision to change his mind on betting the Eagles because I loved them and he thought I couldn't possibly keep winning and that I would lose. That was an incredibly dumb move trying to be slick... and has to be the Worst Move EVER!(edited per WMW request)

I don't mind a bit of trash talk, though it makes you appear a poor winner, but Axel is not Evil, and you need to remove that tacky hashtag. WARNING.