DonPedro
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April 2nd, 2011 at 11:13:30 AM permalink
BS indicates to double 3-6, stand 2,7,8 and hit 9-A. How about 3 card 18 vs 3-6, hit ? or take the 18? A,2,3, can improve your hand 10,J,Q,K keep it the same and 4, 5, 6,7,8, 9 hurt your hand. So you have a little over 50 % chance to improve your hand or keep it the same. I have been hitting it, just wanted to see what others thoughts were ?
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weaselman
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April 2nd, 2011 at 11:29:19 AM permalink
The best play is to stand.
Here are the (infinite deck) EVs (dealer card, hit EV, stand EV):
3: 0.0902 vs. 0.1483
4: 0.1185 vs. 0.1759
5: 0.1476 vs. 0.1996
6: 0.1908 vs. 0.2834

This is for S17. For H17 the absolute numbers are lower, but standing is still the best play.
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DonPedro
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April 2nd, 2011 at 1:08:46 PM permalink
thanks weaselman !!!!

H17

how about 11 vs A double ?
soft 19 vs 6 ?

Splitting 8's vs face/ace ?
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weaselman
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April 3rd, 2011 at 6:37:30 AM permalink
Quote: DonPedro

thanks weaselman !!!!

H17

how about 11 vs A double ?
soft 19 vs 6 ?

Splitting 8's vs face/ace ?



what about them? With three cards, you want to hit 11 against ace (obviously), but not 19.
Not sure what is the question about 8s. Split three 8s?
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DonPedro
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April 3rd, 2011 at 3:29:01 PM permalink
doubling 11 vs ace

spliting 8's against a high up card such as face/ace

Soft 19 vs 6, double

I have been making all of the plays above and done fine, except for the 8's vs 10/A ( big bet ouch)
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teddys
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April 3rd, 2011 at 6:08:04 PM permalink
The way I see it, if it hurts to put up that extra bet when you get 8,8 vs. 10/A, you are betting too much. There should never be any hesitation in making that play. I hate to see people contemplating it. Now, doubling 11 v. A and 19 v. 6 ... you could do away with those and not give up very much in E.V. at all.

By the way, I used to overbet all the time -- learned the hard way!
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DonPedro
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April 4th, 2011 at 11:05:32 PM permalink
Thanks Teddys !!!

Make the correct play and go for it, no 2nd guessing !!!! Somewhat new to the game ,played about 40 hrs a month for the past 6.

I have played all the casinos in my area and a few out of state, It is VERY rare that I see a player play BS religiously . I myself never deviate from BS, I guess if I am going to bet my $$, I want to make the correct play, go down swinging if you will. LOL

I am amazed at the rationale I hear at the table : " I always hit 12" " never hit 15/16" etc. etc. Or play almost the opposite of BS- hit when they should stand, or stand when they should hit.

Also the sidebets have taken over: so players dont even care about the BJ bet. They just want the " suited !!"

Thanks for insight !!

Give'em hell at the tables !!! I do !!! ( one way or another )
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jamo1599
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August 12th, 2011 at 2:15:52 AM permalink
For a 3 card soft 18 I've been going with stand unless the dealer is showing a 9,10, or ace, then hit. Anyone else do that?
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August 12th, 2011 at 3:59:11 AM permalink
Quote: jamo1599

For a 3 card soft 18 I've been going with stand unless the dealer is showing a 9,10, or ace, then hit. Anyone else do that?



Every Basic Strategy player should be doing that.
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