Golden Oldie Moving to Vegas
Will jump to black and switch to weekend play in mid-August.
Im seeing alot of "oh hell no's" for an AP even visiting Vegas. Let alone being part of a regular rotation of 30 casinos.
Is is fair to assume the casinos that only offer red chip minimums will look the other way for a spread of $25 to $300?
Quote: mosesMr Wizard: Is it possible that some of these casinos that only offer red chip could have upped the minimums to green chip play? Could some have changed their course and not sweat green action, be quick to backoff, and stopped being data base participants?
Im seeing alot of "oh hell no's" for an AP even visiting Vegas. Let alone being part of a regular rotation of 30 casinos.
Is is fair to assume the casinos that only offer red chip minimums will look the other way for a spread of $25 to $300?
Moses, one area of your mindset I would suggest you re-examine is the dollar amount numbers of your buy-ins. Earlier on page 5 you wrote the following quote:
Quote: moses
I dont think Im setting of any alarms playing $25 to 50 min tables with $500 and $1,000 buy ins.
I have not played Vegas casinos for a long time now, but my own personal restriction on buy-ins for myself is limited to only 10 minimum bets. Attempting to give the appearance of a non-threat playing for fun.
Post covid, table minimums have kicked up a notch. I wanted to get more single deck straight up play by requesting $50 minimum table. Problem was this put a big target on my back. Thus very difficult to get a fair game.
Now, it's a matter of scheduling my time to a "take what they give you approach." Find a dealer that gives decent pen on $25, $50, or $100 min tables.
The problem is, or my question to you is, I have no control over which table might pop up. For instance, one week might be 200 hands of $25 min. 100 hands at $50min. 300 hands at $100 min. Then next week might be totally different. Would this be a concern to you?
Quote: mosesThanks for the advice Bosox. Good to see you posting again. Ive been wanting to get your opinion.
Post covid, table minimums have kicked up a notch. I wanted to get more single deck straight up play by requesting $50 minimum table. Problem was this put a big target on my back. Thus very difficult to get a fair game.
Now, it's a matter of scheduling my time to a "take what they give you approach." Find a dealer that gives decent pen on $25, $50, or $100 min tables.
The problem is, or my question to you is, I have no control over which table might pop up. For instance, one week might be 200 hands of $25 min. 100 hands at $50min. 300 hands at $100 min. Then next week might be totally different. Would this be a concern to you?
Yes, Moses, that would be a big concern to me, as a matter of fact, I am facing similar situations. The game is not for the faint of heart with a shit load of volatility to deal with. Recently I got hit in the face after doing well all summer. Whatever you do keep your ROR as low as possible otherwise you might learn the hard way.
now if your playing for fun go nuts! i really dont know your financial situation some peeps can lose 4k or 40k and not even feel it, i dont know if you are one of them but bless you if you are, theres no ez money in this world, you work \for everything you have yea some people make it look ez but were all different.
Why put out something that is not accurate?
But you seem unwilling to do any of the work and scouting necessary. You want others to provide you with a list of exactly what casinos you can and can't play. You want others to make this decision for you. ???
If you are a professional blackjack player for 10 years as you claim, and you are considering making a move, check out Las Vegas and the games FOR YOURSELF. See what is available and how that would fit with what you want to do. Only you can decide that. These surveys along with advice from other people that play Vegas are only a guide to point you in the right direction YOU have to do your homework and check things out for yourself.
I will even point you in the right direction: Alligient Airlines and Frontier Airlines both offer direct service from Reno to Las Vegas for $32, $36, $38 dollar range. It is an hour and 20 minute flight. I spend more time than that driving to some casinos that I play in Las Vegas!
What is the point in doing a survey if it is not correct?
Now if someone were coming to Reno? There are 5 or 6 places worth checking out. Maybe two in Tahoe if one wants to make the drive.
The rest? Forget it.
So now, you're saying to check out all 75? What is the point of networking?
Quote: mosesThere are 75 casinos on the blackjack survey. To visit each and everyone will be quite an undetaking.
What is the point in doing a survey if it is not correct?
Now if someone were coming to Reno? There are 5 or 6 places worth checking out. Maybe two in Tahoe if one wants to make the drive.
The rest? Forget it.
So now, you're saying to check out all 75? What is the point of networking?
This is your idea of networking? You've decided the game isn't worth playing and cast doubt on anyone who says otherwise. If, after ten years of playing wherever you play, you can't afford to come to Vegas for a week or two to do your own scouting, I have my doubts about your sincerity.
Quote: kewljGood, you should stay put. I am not saying that because people have been giving me hell, for encouraging you to relocate to Vegas. I don't think I did that. I just tried to provide some information and answers to some of your questions. (and did so despite our rocky past)
But you seem unwilling to do any of the work and scouting necessary. You want others to provide you with a list of exactly what casinos you can and can't play. You want others to make this decision for you. ???
If you are a professional blackjack player for 10 years as you claim, and you are considering making a move, check out Las Vegas and the games FOR YOURSELF. See what is available and how that would fit with what you want to do. Only you can decide that. These surveys along with advice from other people that play Vegas are only a guide to point you in the right direction YOU have to do your homework and check things out for yourself.
I will even point you in the right direction: Alligient Airlines and Frontier Airlines both offer direct service from Reno to Las Vegas for $32, $36, $38 dollar range. It is an hour and 20 minute flight. I spend more time than that driving to some casinos that I play in Las Vegas!
Yes, it is an easy flight or a short drive. Come down and check it out. I have driven to Reno for promotions and driven back the same day.
Quote: billryanThis is your idea of networking? You've decided the game isn't worth playing and cast doubt on anyone who says otherwise. If, after ten years of playing wherever you play, you can't afford to come to Vegas for a week or two to do your own scouting, I have my docubts about your sincerity.
I can remember opening up territories in the mid 80s. They'd give me an account list. I get a map and off Id go for several weeks. Many times Id find vacant buildings, relocated to another city outside of my territory. Point is, the outdated information created alot extra work and expense for me. With today's technology I couldve found the cream of the crop in 1/8th the time.
We'd fly to Chicago for 3 or 4 days between Christmas and New Years for Sales Meeting. Today, the same things could be accomplished from an office in ones home in 3 or 4 hours.
Quote: mosesThere are 75 casinos on the blackjack survey. To visit each and everyone will be quite an undetaking...
...So now, you're saying to check out all 75? What is the point of networking?
Come on moses, be smarter than this. I have repeatedly told you I have a rotation of about 30 games. Why do you think that is? Do you think I am playing places that don't tolerate my play? Do you think I am ignoring places that I could be playing? About 30 at any given time is what I have. I have even shared some of the casinos in my rotation. For god sakes, no one gave me a starting point like that. You HAVE to do some of your own homework. That is what professional players do. It isn't all just playing.
And just for fun, lets talk about the other part of those 75 games not in my rotation. I still play some of them every year! They are not going to allow me to play regularly, because their tolerance level is different than what I play. But I pop in a place once or twice a year and squeeze a session in. Places like Rampart or The Arizona Charlie(s), Ellis Island,aren't going to let me play regularly, so they are not in my regular rotation, but I stop in now and again on a friday/saturday night and squeeze a session in. Even places like Longhorn (Boulder highway), Lucky club (north Las Vegas), Jerry's Nugget...who's tolerance level is way below my play, I occasionally squeeze in a session. The EV and winnings from those infrequent sessions go right along with all my other EV and winnings. It all adds up. Proving.....the real advantage of Las Vegas is quantity (over quality). :)
add on: checking my records, I played 2 sessions at Railroad Pass in 2019 (last normal year). Who would have thought....RailRoad Pass!
Quote: billryanThis is your idea of networking? You've decided the game isn't worth playing and cast doubt on anyone who says otherwise. If, after ten years of playing wherever you play, you can't afford to come to Vegas for a week or two to do your own scouting, I have my doubts about your sincerity.
I dont know what term you use. Maybe efficiency is a better word.
But the feedback is stay off the strip. Red chip games outside the strip are sweaty, quick to back off, and data base participants. Who needs that?
I dont see how anyone can have a rotation of green chip play in 30 casinos from that list. And then to elimate the strip for the most part? What is left? Has anyone bothered to review the blackjack survey?
So you'd be visiting each casino 4 times per month.
Quote: moses
I dont see how anyone can have a rotation of green chip play in 30 casinos from that list. And then to elimate the strip for the most part? What is left? Has anyone bothered to review the blackjack survey?
You are not listening and taking things out of context so I am going to stop offering you any advice. You obviously don't want my advice.
But I will clear this up one last time. I have strip locations in my regular, primary rotation! Strip properties obviously tolerate my level of play (green to mid black), but there are other issues with strip properties. For staters, there are two big chains that dominate the strip, so any kind of backoff/baring at one property means you can lose multiple properties. Now that is not a reason, to not play a good game, but you have to take extra caution.
Second big obstacle on the strip, is these are the properties with the top surveillance crews using the newest technolgy. Take a listen to a recent GWAE podcast with recently retired, strip surviellance gyuy "Junior". Many of the things he described only occur at these top strip properties. It might be a little harder to get down the amounts I want at some of the smaller off strip places, but they don't have all the technolgy and personnel working against you either. Their surveillance is a half dozen people looking for cheats and pick pockets.
Three, the top database contributors are on the strip. Places like Cosmo and Aria. This IS a reason to avoid those places.
Several other more minor issues with strips, more crowded, including at tables,. Pick pockets and scammers doing their thing. Parking hassles.
So there are reasons I am not crazy about the strip, but I still have a few games in my rotation. I think you are confusing advice I gave to someone else, a former member here, who likes to vent about his losing on the strip. He thinks the strip casinos are cheating him (highly doubtful), but then keeps returing to those same properties, losing and venting. To him I said,something like he should stay away from the strip. lol.
Also people that visit vegas, often think Vegas is only the strip and downtown. To some of them, I sometimes suggest they should get off the strip and experince some of the off strip places like Stations, South Point, Silverton, Boyd properties. There IS more to Vegas than just the strip. :/
Quote: mosesMy idea of a 30 casino rotation would be 5 or 6 per day and 5 of 6 days per week.
So you'd be visiting each casino 4 times per month.
That is slightly more than I do, but not much. But, you add in different shifts. Visit in the evening once. Visit overnight once. Also figuring some of the casinos have multiple pits and you aren't seeing the same people as frequently as everyone thinks. AND as long as you keep your sessions short and your play hasn't raised any huge red flags, so what if they see you once or twice every month. That makes you a regular player. Do you know how many people they see once of twice a month?
It is like, aw hell, today is strip day. Let's get it over with.
Stations, South Point, Silverton are all red chippers according to the survey. Yet you can play green chip on a regular basis?
When you say rotation? I think pitching rotation.
Quote: mosesSo how many places on the strip are in your regular rotation?
It is like, aw hell, today is strip day. Let's get it over with.
Stations, South Point, Silverton are all red chippers according to the survey. Yet you can play green chip on a regular basis?
When you say rotation? I think pitching rotation.
Those casinos mentioned ALL have $25 minimum games and at busier times even more. You are putting way too much stock in inacurate and outdated survey's. If you are going to use one try CBJN at BJ21. For Las vegas the reporters report monthly. (some other areas may not be up to date). However, what is reported is only a snapshot in time. It is tables and conditions when the reporter visits which is usually the 1st or 2nd of the month. And, well, take some of the penetration numbers with a grain of salt. Some reporters hold back a bit attempting to preserve good games, but this is never admitted. LOL.
But again, this is a guide, you do your own confirmation and homework.
Now speaking of work, I have wasted too much time here today with you. Good luck. And I have managed to not go red in my short time back which is like a new record for me. :/ Off to make the donuts or whatever I do.
Post covid. Some dropped blackjack. Changed to 6.5. There are 3 people waiting for the green chip table to open. It's by guess and by gosh to get a game during the week.
So I try to find other things to do while I play wait and seek. In short, people wont leave me alone. I dont know if you have that problem or not. Some asshole wants money, tell me about his bet, favorite team, life story. Politics. Whatever. .
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Latest CBJN.
Has anyone read what's happened in Vegas recently? It looks truly awful. Whole bunch of places removing DD games, or games altogether. There appears to be worse rules and pen all round, Aria got rid of all S17 games. The Golden Nugget, which was probably one of the best DT places to play has removed all bar two 3:2 games in the HL area. It's a really sad read.
😅😅😅 I googled CBJN blackjack. This was the first thing that came up from October 2020 by Kozlj.
LV Bear does a good job of reporting North Nevada. His report was last updated February 2019. It needs to be updated again. After reading it, there are 5 or 6 places to visit in Reno. Forget Tahoe and the other towns.
There you go Mr. Ryan I just saved you a ton of windshield time.
anyway i say give up on that pipe dream and network ur butt off!
listen to the winner at losing and don't listen to a fictional being who makes claims w/o proof =/
Quote: dawinnaatlozinsso conditions keep getting bad for the player? thats nothing new, SO Mosses how does one play like KJ w/o detection with this magical theory of 30 casino rotation? i truly have a hard time understanding that YOU can't understand it can't be done and what KJ says is a croc, avoid detection for 10 years b/c casinos don't care? maybe just maybe you could do it for a month or so at atlantic shtty those rules are so god awful if you win its due to luck LOL crap pent'ed full tables, h17 no surrender yea you survive that ringer its due to luck but back to the matter at hand no amount of rotation no amount of surveys and no amount of homework like KJ says will make you immune/bullet proof from the banning's again tens years + counting w/o detection i smell croc of....
anyway i say give up on that pipe dream and network ur butt off!
listen to the winner at losing and don't listen to a fictional being who makes claims w/o proof =/
Talk about your run on sentences/paragraph. Hard to even follow along.
Now if I were to say what someone says is a "croc of....", not once but twice, I would be suspended for calling someone a liar. But I am not going to be filing complaints with Wiz and that kind of stuff, like others do. You are free to believe whatever you like. As a matter of fact it is really better for me if you believe the nonsense that you just wrote, along with players getting "captured" that you wrote about earlier. lol.
I have a saying that "it doesn't take much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". You sir, are off to a flying start. :/ Welcome to the forum though.
im sorry to call you a fictional character im sorry i believe your claims are a croc of u know what and im sorry if i offended you but if i can save this man from losing 4 grand and being banned/backed off from LV casinos i should try my best, what proof sir do you have to back up your claims? you are just pixels on a screen that make up words and form sentences and they are very fascinating a world where 1 can generate money 10+ years w/o being stopped! im sure arthur c clarke would find this very fascinating a world where one can make money flawlessly and no ones the wiser!
show me the proof KJ dont just say it i do believe proving 10 years of card counting is hard to do but can be done
prove it! otherwise im stixing to me guns (croc!!)
We can agree the information on blackjack survey is outdated.
I ask you "who better to bring it into prosper perspective, than the man himself"? KJ.
LV Bear did a Northern Nevada update in February 2019. He did a great job as always. But it's in dire need of another one. Covid changed eveything.
There are 24 casinos listed. I can tell KJ and AP's to visit 5 or 6 in Reno.
That's 18 casinos in 4 cities they dont have to visit.
If the same percent were true in Vegas? That's 19 casinos worth visiting.
Quote: dawinnaatlozinsyou know who i am KJ suprised you don't pix up on how i type like your friend who rants on casino cheating but continues to go back for more eh!
im sorry to call you a fictional character im sorry i believe your claims are a croc of u know what and im sorry if i offended you but if i can save this man from losing 4 grand and being banned/backed off from LV casinos i should try my best, what proof sir do you have to back up your claims? you are just pixels on a screen that make up words and form sentences and they are very fascinating a world where 1 can generate money 10+ years w/o being stopped! im sure arthur c clarke would find this very fascinating a world where one can make money flawlessly and no ones the wiser!
show me the proof KJ dont just say it i do believe proving 10 years of card counting is hard to do but can be done
prove it! otherwise im stixing to me guns (croc!!)
Ah, so a sockpuppet, or someone hiding behind numerous handles, which is the same thing. So no I don't know who you are. I don't monitor people's writing styles trying to figure out who they are because they use different handles. I guess you are trying to indicate you are ZenKing. How sad!
I wasn't aware I was REQUIRED to provide proof of my claims. But I might be willing to for a price. Unlike others who's tax returns have mysteriously disappeared (shades of Rob Singer), I have ALL of mine and would be willing to show them to Wizard for a substantial wager. You will be required to put the funds for the wager up front with Wizard and I will also. I am talking substantial. I am not going to show my personal info, even to Wiz, for someone trying to out me to jeopardize my career just for peanuts. Has to be worth my while. Your call, Mr sockpuppet/many handles.
Quote: moses
We can agree the information on blackjack survey is outdated.
I ask you "who better to bring it into prosper perspective, than the man himself"? KJ.
LV Bear did a Northern Nevada update in February 2019. He did a great job as always. But it's in dire need of another one. Covid changed eveything.
There are 24 casinos listed. I can tell KJ and AP's to visit 5 or 6 in Reno.
That's 18 casinos in 4 cities they dont have to visit.
If the same percent were true in Vegas? That's 19 casinos worth visiting.
Moses, I don't know what you are going on about. I have no interest in being a reporter of one of the routes for CBJN. I turned down an offer to do so a number of years ago, when one opened. I am just not looking for part-time work right now.
I also don't depend on CBJN or any other survey. I scout my own games and know conditions up to date for my rotation. I occasionally will reveiew CBJN just to see if anything might have changed on some game not in my rotation. And should I see such a change, I then will go check it out for myself. THAT is what scouting is. And it is part of being a professional player.
You are the one wanting to help the Newbie. What better way to give back! No?
You could do 90% off the top of your head.
Easy $850 and who would ever question the creditbility of your report?
Quote: kewljBut I am not going to be filing complaints with Wiz and that kind of stuff, like others do.
For the record, I changed my mind on this. If I am going to be held to a certain standard, I expect others to be as well.
Quote: kewljFor the record, I changed my mind on this. If I am going to be held to a certain standard, I expect others to be as well.
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Somewhat insulting, IMHO.Quote: dawinnaatlozinslisten to the winner at losing and don't listen to a fictional being who makes claims w/o proof =/
Quote: dawinnaatlozinsyou know who i am KJ suprised you don't pix up on how i type like your friend who rants on casino cheating but continues to go back for more eh!
im sorry to call you a fictional character im sorry i believe your claims are a croc of u know what and im sorry if i offended you but if i can save this man from losing 4 grand and being banned/backed off from LV casinos i should try my best, what proof sir do you have to back up your claims? you are just pixels on a screen that make up words and form sentences and they are very fascinating a world where 1 can generate money 10+ years w/o being stopped! im sure arthur c clarke would find this very fascinating a world where one can make money flawlessly and no ones the wiser!
show me the proof KJ dont just say it i do believe proving 10 years of card counting is hard to do but can be done
prove it! otherwise im stixing to me guns (croc!!)
Yes, definitely insulting, IMHO.
Quote: kewljAh, so a sockpuppet, or someone hiding behind numerous handles, which is the same thing. So no I don't know who you are.
OK. In the above post and others before it, DawinnaAtLozin has expressed doubt at Kewlj's claims about how he plays.
DawinnaAtLozin is allowed to believe or not believe whatever he wishes.
KewlJ knows he has no obligation to prove anything.
However, in repeatedly using the expression 'a croc of...' this has entered the realm of 'personal insult' and I can see how KewlJ would be insulted and inclined to argue his case. And it seems that every time he argues his case, he oversteps the mark and gets suspended again. As an expert in assessing 'heat', KewlJ must know that he's pushing the envelope here. I only just unsuspended him and here he is 'defending himself' again. I want to be a fair arbiter of the forum rules, but ...
This must stop!
DawinnaAtLozin should note the part of the rules that says "If you disagree with another forum member, politely attack the writing, not the writer."
KewlJ should maybe take a paraphrased version " If another forum member disagrees with you, politely defend the writing, not the writer."
If you guys want to squabble, take it elsewhere.
I understand that DawinnaAtLozin's motive might be to save some newbie, But Moses is no such newbie.
He should desist from attacking or trying to discredit KewlJ.
I don't know if DawinnaAtLozin is a sock account. It may well be, but I have no evidence or admission.
No. Id say Ive played more single deck hands than anyone in the US over the last decade.
IF I had it to do over I would never have played one red chip table. That is where all my trouble came from and still haunts me to this day. Why? Because those places shrink and/or go away. Some of the people from those places find employment at the casinos on my regular rotation. It presents yet another challenged I dont need and wouldnt exist had I been more effcient in the first place.
But I got liucky. A pit boss, who banned me, explained to me about casino tolerance.
So I will go to Vegas. Visit all 75 casinos. Ask questions and learn about their tolerances. Then I will come back. Get out Norm's products and develop a plan to succeed within their tolerances.
By the time Im done I will know exactly how long it takes to walk from one blackjack pit to the one at the next casino on the strip.
if thats the case which i doubt maybe you could avoid detection forever but what if he has one of those faces everyone remembers? the busy weekend rotation won't work then slowly burning out your welcome on other days of the week at other properties on/off strip? what good is card counting if you are captured? beating the game is real all math things but avoid detection forever? i dunno Mosses,
Quote: dawinnaatlozinsi did say i wasn't trying to offend him, however IMO he is a "fraud" in reality he very well could be that 10 players in vegas making a living, maybe friday/saturday tables crowded on 2-4 players your just another face in the crowd and avoid detection forever? (very hard to swallow unless pit doesn't track players friday/sat due to busyness)
if thats the case which i doubt maybe you could avoid detection forever but what if he has one of those faces everyone remembers? the busy weekend rotation won't work then slowly burning out your welcome on other days of the week at other properties on/off strip? what good is card counting if you are captured? beating the game is real all math things but avoid detection forever? i dunno Mosses,
What are you talking about? Moses has been beating the games for 10 years in a smaller market. Learn your audience.
if he knows what hes doing then his posts aren't all that helpful
Quote: dawinnaatlozinsi did say i wasn't trying to offend him, however IMO he is a "fraud" in reality he very well could be that 10 players in vegas making a living, maybe friday/saturday tables crowded on 2-4 players your just another face in the crowd and avoid detection forever? (very hard to swallow unless pit doesn't track players friday/sat due to busyness)
if thats the case which i doubt maybe you could avoid detection forever but what if he has one of those faces everyone remembers? the busy weekend rotation won't work then slowly burning out your welcome on other days of the week at other properties on/off strip? what good is card counting if you are captured? beating the game is real all math things but avoid detection forever? i dunno Mosses,
Perhaps he has an extensive collection of wigs, and a body type that allows him to wear body padding to fool people. I'm 6'3+ and 350+ pounds. There isn't much I can do to disguise that. If I were 5'9 and wiry, many disguises would allow me to play short term. Look at the mileage Superman gets just from combing his hair and putting on pair of eyeglasses.
If someone has thirty casinos to choose from, and each casino has three shifts, that means you can play 90 times before you run into the same pit workers.
I work hard. Walk on eggshells. Do the best I can. But my results are pale by comparison to KJ. It pays some bills. I lose 40% of my sessions and feel as though I should apologize when I do win.Quote: unJonWhat are you talking about? Moses has been beating the games for 10 years in a smaller market. Learn your audience.
Post covid is a different story. Very difficult to find a game to play.
Quote: dawinnaatlozinso yea then why is he trying to get surveys and gather more info on vegas bj games?
if he knows what hes doing then his posts aren't all that helpful
He's not. He started this as a continuation of his one sided feud with KJ and a couple of fish took him seriously.
i have to go back to confirm the podcast but 99% sure thats what they said along the lines
Quote: billryanHe's not. He started this as a continuation of his one sided feud with KJ and a couple of fish took him seriously.
First you question my work ethic? Now you can read my mind?
Quote: mosesFirst you question my work ethic? Now you can read my mind?
If you choose to urinate in public and announce that it is raining, don't be surprised when you get called on it.
Quote: billryanIf you choose to urinate in public and announce that it is raining, don't be surprised when you get called on it.
Okay. Big boy. Dont whiz down my back and tell me it's raining.
But we're talking driving to Vegas. Walking in and out , asking questions to pit bosses, dealers, etc at 75 casinos. Yes, the outdated Blackjack Survey will serve as a guide. I will probably walk in and back out of many places quickly and with a chuckle. It would be nice to reduce windshield time and walking. But not necessary to complete the endeavor.
The KJ Monstrous Liar or Top notch Pro debate has been going for 8 years that I know of and will probably continue to be a centerpiece at forums for many years to come. But the endless debate will end for me.
I know where I reside. I know where Ive been. I know where Im going.
Do a pushup for crissake.
only KJ knows the truth of his detailed gambling logs if hes making the cash he claims through BJ21. im entitled to believe what i wish and that he very well could be a fraud, his case much like Carl Sagan once said what created the universe? his reply was Unaswenerable question but every man woman and child is entitled to their beliefs
again modern casinos are not going to permit such actions no amount of cover play, no amount of rotation and no amount of disguises will secure 8 or 10 year victory.
you are entitled to your opinion's
I moved to Las Vegas in late 2009, making this 2021, my 12th year here. I have shared that journey, plus several of my final years in Philadelphia, playing Atlantic City.
I have shared some good years and bad years. Two of the years since I have been in Vegas, my results have been far below expectaion at 27k and last year at 14k, both vs expectation or what I call accumulated EV of over 80k. No other player in the community has shared in such detail including bad years. I have shared the extreme variance I encounter almost every year.
I have shared almost exactly what I do and how I do it. Large rotation of casinos (at least 30 at all times), playing multiple shifts, times, days of week so as to spread my play around.
Very short sessions. Exiting at the shuffle after showing spread, regardless of winning or losing. This along with several other exit triggers, GUARANTEES short sessions and smaller wins and losses.
I play midlevel stakes, keeping my top wager at levels that are well tolerated, this is below $500 most times, occasionally during busier times slightly more.
I share in detail what I do and some of how I do it. And still I get these lies and nonsense. Disguises?? Where have I ever said I used disguises. Give me a F***ing break.
It's not disguises, it is short sessions, at limits well tolerated, spreading play around.
I have pulled results from one casino in my rotation for this year. Now I didn't start playing until April 1 because of covid so 4 months results at this 1 property. I have visited 14 times ( alittle less than once a week), 9 winning sessions, 5 losing. Expected value of 1734 for the 14 sessions. Total win of $2237.50 for the 14 sessions.
1 morning session, 6 afternoon sessions, 4 evening sessions, 3 overnight sessions.
I intereacted with pit 11 times in the 14 sessions. (sometimes with a chip inventory, I am able to enter, play and exit with no pit interaction). Of those 11 pit interactions, I recorded 7 different pit personel. The most interacted with the same pit guy was 3 times. So one pit guy saw me 3 times in 4 months! This isn't by accident, IT IS BY DESIGN!
Here is a list of my wins and losses for those 14 sessions: winning sessions of $625, $325, $1125, $475, $387.50, $450, $1225, $75, $362.50. Losing sessions of -$600, -$1250, -$225, -$437.50 and -$300
Short sesseion and medium betting levels GUARANTEE session wins and losses will be fairly small. In this case only 3 of 14 were of $1000 or more, 2 winning and 1 losing. THESE are NOT the kind of wins and losses that draw attention (playing $25 and $50 minimum games) and NOT the kind of wins and losses someone has to answer for. And THIS TOO IS BY DESIGN.
So what am I selling? What am I promnoting? No book? No videos or seminars or "boot camps". I am just sharing my journey and some of the techniques and things I do including all the variance that I go through. My hope is it helps other players along the way, especially newer players, see the amounts that can really be made and the grind to get there and the variance along the way.
I have even been willing to answer questions and provide info on Las Vegas and such to a not-so-new player like moses and in this case one who I have had issues with in the past, but still willing to try to help.
And what do I get in return, People questioning me like I am on trial. I am ok, with people deciding they don't believe me. That is on them. But I am growing tired of all the lying and distorting, when I have been very open and honest about what I do. And I am growing tired of a group of people, trolling me on numerous forums, using sockpuppets and multiple handles. WTF?? Grow the F*** up!
Interesting. Similar results to a $50min single deck game strategy. 5 wins 2 losses 7 ties would be my log.
Good post, generally. You got it off your chest.Quote: kewljYou guys wear me out, you really do. :( You just write whatever the f*** you want about me, ... sockpuppets and multiple handles. WTF?? Grow the F*** up!
Pity about the masked expletives, which I will forgive this time on ONE condition.
DROP IT NOW. Squabbling complete. Over. Done with. If some troll wades in, ignore them.
Quote: OnceDearGood post, generally. You got it off your chest.
Pity about the masked expletives, which I will forgive this time on ONE condition.
DROP IT NOW. Squabbling complete. Over. Done with. If some troll wades in, ignore them.
Because he is the problem here?
