moses
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July 23rd, 2021 at 3:39:46 PM permalink
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Aria; Ballys; Bellagio; Venetion; Westgate offer $50 6 deck shoes.

MGM and Red Rock offer $25 6 deck shoes.



Again, only 7 casinos. Belligio is the only one that lists it also has a $25min 6 deck shoe.

The rest are either $100min. or you'd have to ask them to bump from red chip to green chip. No? So now you'd likely be the top player at the table. Or have red chip ploppies coming and going if casino doesnt raise the minimums. And you've put a big target on your back.

Single deck spreads are limited. Ive learned to play the min. listed. Otherwise, there is hell to pay. So yes, $50 doubles $25 min. and $100 min. doublea $50. It's just a black chip instead of green.

Not sure about the dodge and pony ahow KJ employs.

The whole Vegas thing doesnt make much sense. Let alone dollars.😉 The idea of paying to park and deal with lines and crowds on the strip has little appeal. Even worse on a Saturday night. No?
moses
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July 23rd, 2021 at 4:43:15 PM permalink
Blackhole writes:
Everyone knows you and Mosses hate each other and always did. Now you’re going to pretend this thread you created is about helping him adjust to Las Vegas.

Sorry but I think I should address Mr.Black of the Hole. Um. It's pronounced Moses. I know, I know Im sorry about dropping that tablet. But I still maintain the world is a better place with only 10 C's. I mean you should've seen the other 5.😰
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July 24th, 2021 at 6:02:42 AM permalink
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Blackhole writes:
Everyone knows you and Mosses hate each other and always did. Now you’re going to pretend this thread you created is about helping him adjust to Las Vegas.

Sorry but I think I should address Mr.Black of the Hole. Um. It's pronounced Moses. I know, I know Im sorry about dropping that tablet. But I still maintain the world is a better place with only 10 C's. I mean you should've seen the other 5.😰




I don't understand your quote. I don't see anyone named "Blackhole" who has replied in this thread. Who is Blackhole and where did this quote come from? Also who do you hate?
50-50-90 Rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there is a 90% probability you'll get it wrong
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July 24th, 2021 at 7:27:23 AM permalink
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I don't understand your quote. I don't see anyone named "Blackhole" who has replied in this thread. Who is Blackhole and where did this quote come from? Also who do you hate?


It was a joke. This was a qoute from another "sight." Did I say hate? It is such a stong word.
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July 24th, 2021 at 8:11:28 AM permalink
moses - IMO, your plan won't work. As others have stated, DD is a counter trap in Vegas and playing HL games for any length of time will result in quick backoffs. As Richard Munchkin has said many times, "Vegas is the worst place in the country to count cards." If you want to move to Vegas, you'll need to expand your AP repertoire. It's a good hub for travel, as there are so many flights, so you could roam the country from there.
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July 24th, 2021 at 8:39:03 AM permalink
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moses - IMO, your plan won't work. As others have stated, DD is a counter trap in Vegas and playing HL games for any length of time will result in quick backoffs. As Richard Munchkin has said many times, "Vegas is the worst place in the country to count cards." If you want to move to Vegas, you'll need to expand your AP repertoire. It's a good hub for travel, as there are so many flights, so you could roam the country from there.

Thanks Mr. 21forme. I agree. Still, I finshed my homework this morning. There are 27 casinos that only offer red action. 15 of which are Quick to backoff. Sweat Green Action. Data Participant. Machine shuffle after every hand (Orleans).

This leaves 12 scattered all over. My experience with red action joints is like Clint Eastwood in High Plains Drifter. The ones who sweat? Act like Jason from Halloween walked in. 😨
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July 24th, 2021 at 9:19:56 AM permalink
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A successful player for over a decade span says to stay away from $50 min bet 6 shoes and up. Cant bet 1 and 2 hands on double deck games which are closely hawked. Stay off the strip.

What's left to play? How do you get a rotation of 10, 25, 30 casinos after all that has been eliminated?



It sounds like you are debating vegas because you are using your life savings as a bankroll. Theres alot of variance. I would go if im retired with extra cash on top of a retirement savings to gamble. Risking your savings is going to be stressfull unless you apportion money that you are willing to lose and stay secure and have a plan b.

When i visited vegas half a year ago. It was slow. As a card counter, you are going to be spotted faster. Im sure vegas will jump back. You may want to visit vegas. There are a ton of casinos. But a fraction of the tables were full.
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July 24th, 2021 at 8:13:07 PM permalink
we are all here trying to save you money Moses, yes blackjack can be beaten, yes you may actually be on the right side of the books early on and yes you will get captured as a card counter its not a matter of if but when? this theory of a KJ playing over a decade w/o detection or they know but dont care is a croc thats right i said it a croc of you know what! so please Moses save your self time, money and energy find other advantage plays and find a network become a big player! lmao sorry i had to talk like richard munchkin there for a sec lol really find a network? he makes it sound like finding a job, post on forums and find thieves and degens? dont get me started on richards advice on finding a network cause that too is a croc, anywho yea those bj games are more protected than the mafia's daughter once they see winning they will capture you if it were that ez everybody be doing it (i bet its knee deep in atlantic city tables right now)
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July 24th, 2021 at 9:13:37 PM permalink
Thanks for your advice. Things have really changed in Reno since covid.

I came to realize from this thread to stay put, increase my bet and change my routine. I found peace here for the last decade and learned Id stay even without casinos.

Casinos are swamped here. Weekdays are like weekends. Weekends are like holidays. Holidays are like just stay home.

So my routine reverses to weekdays off and weekend play at the black chip tables. Quantity of hands will reduce 50% pre covid. But my jump from $25 to 100 mins means income will double with half the play.
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Casino tolerance is key. Get in. Get paid. Get out. Dont Get greedy.
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July 25th, 2021 at 12:04:28 PM permalink
Good to hear that, after at least 8 years, the successful one is finally going to change his tune.

After reading and learning about Vegas, the choices are either to battle parking, lots of walking, lines, and crowds on the strip to play some green chip and alot of black chip.

Or fight the red chip low budget sweaty casinos around the perimeter.

IF the successful one is making $50k a year? He is earning every nickel.

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