Paying people to make correct moves

Playing at a low limit table tonight. To my right two guys from New York just looking to play some blackjack. To my left, two beautiful girls who never have played blackjack. They were making every mistake in the book. They didn’t want to put up money for certain situations that were beneficial to them. Plus if you have played at sands Bethlehem/ wind creek, you know that when someone does not play according to basic strategy it is not beneficial to the table.

For example they did not want to split 9s against a 2. The dudes next to me were trying to tell them what the correct play was but they were still doing whatever they wanted to do and losing mostly. So when they hesitated I offered to put up the money to let them know how important it was as well as to show them what the correct plays do when applied. Literally had to do this every time they didn’t want to play correctly. But they ended up listening to me and the table ended up winning.

Dealer already warned the one table I played at that I can't coach other players.

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Plus if you have played at sands Bethlehem/ wind creek, you know that when someone does not play according to basic strategy it is not beneficial to the table.

I don't understand. Are you saying Sands Bethlehem / Wind Creek secretly arranges the deck to benefit the players, but only if they play according to basic strategy? That must take a lot of effort.

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Plus if you have played at sands Bethlehem/ wind creek, you know that when someone does not play according to basic strategy it is not beneficial to the table.

You're going to have to explain that wrong sounding comment.
It was their money to throw away. Maybe offer friendly advice once, but if declined, then it would be impertinent to push it.
If you don't like 'the flow' getting disrupted*, leave the table.

*A silly and groundless concept

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, you know that when someone does not play according to basic strategy it is not beneficial to the table.

It is dealer against the players. The table, the chairs, the drink glasses ain't got nothin' to do with it. The shoe does not contain cards that are destined for you, the pretty girls may be alluring, their style of play may me as entertaining as their fingernail polish, they may smile at you or ignore you and your suggestions, but they are not the embodiment of Lady Variance.

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It is dealer against the players.

By that I mean the INDIVIDUAL players. Why don't you sit at your own table, then ALL the cards are going to be dealt according to 'destiny' and you won't have to buy other players submission to your astrology-based views on the cards?

Yes I absolutely believe everything I have said. There is no flow. The shouldA couldA wouldA is why I say that. Y’all know how I feel. This should not be a surprise. If you are playing at sands Bethlehem/wind creek, if you stray from basic strategy you get punished. One move makes or breaks the table, and I’m not the only one in history to ever believe this. If you misstep, the one card usually causes the dealer to receive a different card if they are hitting and it is normally beneficial to them. This example is very clear at the stadium blackjack. I do not believe my statements are incorrect as I am not advocating to stray away from basic strategy but to stick to it because I know what happens when you try to alter destiny as some have said to my advantage. However they do it, they are doing it. I have tried to explain what I have and still see to this day about what I’m seeing but you would have to see my play in action to know what I am talking about. People love when I tell them how to play because they win because I know the cards and how they come out. They don’t love when I call the dealers cards though

I have said this before that I will meet anyone and show you what I mean. The thing is that this is local to Pennsylvania and from what I see on the slot lady’s blackjack streams local to shuffle master. Just go watch her streams and in your mind play wrong. Play the cards through as if you are the crappiest player ever and then look at which cards come out and which cards would have benefited you or the dealer. If you defect or do not do the specified strategy the dealer benefits because you didn’t actually take a chance.

I can show anyone who wants I have no problem and I will continue to believe what I’m seeing until someone can also prove me otherwise.

And I should also mention that I was not the one telling these girls what to do and that they needed to do it, because I’m a degenerate gambler. Let destiny take its place. I didn’t not also mention that the one dude next to me comparing to me could have taken both of the girls home and they would have married him. He was the one letting them know at first that they should do certain things and that’s not my style. I was simply trying to show them value. I said I was putting up the money because I was getting value if they weren’t.

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If you are playing at sands Bethlehem/wind creek, if you stray from basic strategy you get punished. One move makes or breaks the table, and I’m not the only one in history to ever believe this. If you misstep, the one card usually causes the dealer to receive a different card if they are hitting and it is normally beneficial to them. This example is very clear at the stadium blackjack.

What is your evidence?

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What is your evidence?

I am working right now but for you I will throw together a video of one of the many videos Sarah has been making. I have sequences that I believe are graph games. If you play through a sequence, with multiple people, the dealer receives the same number for their hand in 5 out the 7 hands when replayed. This was proven within the first sequence I pulled randomly.

I will attempt to prove this to you with each sequence, by reversing the split deck and reconstructing the initial shuffle. I will then play through as if there is no cut. The cut makes randomness happen.

When I get the init shuffle hopefully I can show you that at every turn, no matter if you leave and another player is added or if you add give people, the sequence can handle and play without being able to be exploited in any way. Unless you had a computer I’ll concede to that.

Thank you for responding.

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... .. ... and in your mind

PRECISELY !! In your mind you see and recall all those UN-basic strategy decisions and they cost you money all the time. You never see or recall the times someone's UN-basic strategy play resulted in your making money.

Focus on how nice a day it is and how much you are enjoying a stroll do not obsess about the cracks in the sidewalk.

Play blackjack, do the best you can at it and stop looking at any cards but yours and the dealers.