Financial reports from casinos?

I recall seeing presented here either links or actual figures for casino income, maybe quarterly, for casinos in New Jersey. I don't remember how precise - to what level they drilled down into type of game, level of play (high or low average wagers) or much of anything else other than a total income or revenue number.

I'm interested in tracking the numbers for a casino over time. Any level of detail would suffice, so long as it was consistent and of short duration. Monthly would be best, at a minimum broken out by game (craps, blackjack, slots...).

I imagine that if it were a Walmart casino, you might be able to get information on a per-store basis of revenue. But Walmart is a publicly held company, and the stores are not in a "sovereign" nation and so are bound by a strict set of rules.

Then again, deals are struck between tribes and states. Such deals often require that the casino fork over a percentage of the take. Those payments must be reported somewhere.

Any idea where someone might obtain such numbers? I could envision pouring over some dense, useless document filing that the casino has to file with some obscure bureau housed in the basement of the state capitol.

But many attempts to solicit this information from my usual source, Mr. Google, have come up empty.

Any ideas?

The link gamerfreak provided is what you're looking for.

A few years ago, these reports were much more detailed. It showed every table game offered and what the win/loss and drop/handle was. They were very interesting to look at - every so often you would see something weird such as something like, Double Attack Blackjack at the Taj took a $40K loss on a $150K drop for the month. Now, they lump all table games together.

How about in other states? Specifically New England? It would be very informative to see what impact the new Massachusetts casinos will have on the existing locations.

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How about in other states? Specifically New England? It would be very informative to see what impact the new Massachusetts casinos will have on the existing locations.

https://massgaming.com/regulations/revenue/

These are all very easy to find on google

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How about in other states? Specifically New England? It would be very informative to see what impact the new Massachusetts casinos will have on the existing locations.

The Connecticut casinos are only required to release slot revenues. You can find that here.

For Rhode Island, their figures are separated for VLTs and table games. Both are in the "games" tab on the RI Lottery website here.

Edit: More direct link to revenue results here.

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These are all very easy to find on google

Was thinking that, but I was already called out for not keeping it classy today by a mod, so I figured it's easier to be nice. Haha

Here is Maine's gaming revenue site as well. You now have all of New England. Enjoy.

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I'm interested in tracking the numbers for a casino over time. Any level of detail would suffice, so long as it was consistent and of short duration. Monthly would be best, at a minimum broken out by game (craps, blackjack, slots...) Any ideas?

Some of the Midwest casinos give data down to the specific type of table game. Where a casino only has one instance of a given table game, you actually get data for a single individual table.

Here's the link to data for Iowa, but you might also want to check Missouri and other nearby states.

Good luck!

I remember back in the late sixties in Vegas when one Green Eye Shade guy noted that some Black Jack tables were running at a loss but only on the Swing Shifts.

Shortly thereafter dealers and floormen and some "players" all started turning up out in the desert.

I've never understood this drop, hold, win rate stuff and I know the Vegas stats are grouped strangely and any info that would identify a particular licensee is suppressed but I think you will find things don't vary that much.

Slot machines often come with a set of chips and some states may have laws that allow a less generous RNG to be used but usually its not going to be some self-developed chip that the casino inserts. Used machines are often quoted with the chip sets identified.

I don't think win rates vary all that much. I've been in some casinos that were virtually empty and the craps dealers were talking about knocking over a convenience store but as long as there is sufficient action I doubt win rates vary all that much.

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These are all very easy to find on google

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Was thinking that, but I was already called out for not keeping it classy today by a mod, so I figured it's easier to be nice. Haha

As was reported above, Connecticut / Indian figures for table games specifically are not reported? I didn't mention it, but it's Connecticut that I am interested in.

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But many attempts to solicit this information from my usual source, Mr. Google, have come up empty.

I guess I must have missed that easy-to-find link.

Yes, CT table games figures are not reported. Slots are in my post on the first page of this thread.