ZenKinG
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March 13th, 2018 at 10:12:53 PM permalink
Ive had it. What these casinos are doing is clearly illegal. In the past everytime ive been id'd at the cage and they start writing down all my information and punching keys into the computer, ive been backed off the next visit or the one after. Yes, you should never cash out right away, but the way i play with short sessions i cant be carrying chips all over the strip and sometimes i dont even cash out if i see the pit boss get on the phone which im guessing is to call the cage and get my ID. When i see this i cash out the next day or later on in the day, but today i cashed out later once i saw pit get on the phone and still got id'd when i came back when he wasnt there.

These casinos think theyre smart because they wait for me to give my chips and then ask for my id and when i say i dont want to give my id and to just give me back my chips, they REFUSE and say they have to hold my chips until i show them id. This is the problem i have and it's illegal on so many levels. First off, they have to tell me ahead of time that they will request my ID, which they do not. Secondly if i say i dont want to give my id, they have no right to REFUSE on giving me my chips back. Lastly, they request ID, but never tell me they will write down all of my information without my consent, steal my information and punch it into the computer.

They even slide my ID into the computer or w.e the f*** they do. They also even try lying straight to my face saying they need to verify the purples, but in the past when they id'd me at the cage and wrote down all my information i had no purples at all. Bunch of two faced immoral frauds working in this industry that do anything for a paycheck.

Ive officially had it and things are about to change very soon.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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March 13th, 2018 at 10:16:57 PM permalink
You need to maintain a chip inventory. It is done by most counters. This way you are not buying in as well. You're not going to change anything. Stop fighting stuff and adapt to the flow. Is it really that hard?
ZenKinG
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March 13th, 2018 at 10:19:50 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

You need to maintain a chip inventory. It is done by most counters. This way you are not buying in as well. You're not going to change anything. Stop fighting stuff and adapt to the flow. Is it really that hard?



Yes im aware of all of that, but it's just not convenient at all with all the short sessions and walking unless i buy some type of pouch that i carry with me. I understand everyone always says to not cash out right away and sometimes i dont especially if i take over 2k+ etc in one session.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
gamerfreak
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March 13th, 2018 at 10:29:46 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Yes im aware of all of that, but it's just not convenient at all with all the short sessions and walking unless i buy some type of pouch that i carry with me.


onenickelmiracle
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March 13th, 2018 at 11:37:56 PM permalink
I don't like being carded either. I do understand the law says they can ask for ID, but they use information on the ID without your Express consent. You should be able to hold it down away from the cameras but they won't let you. It's the way it is what can you do. Hopefully we don't see you from the top of the hotel one day with the gun.
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ZenKinG
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March 13th, 2018 at 11:54:18 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I don't like being carded either. I do understand the law says they can ask for ID, but they use information on the ID without your Express consent. You should be able to hold it down away from the cameras but they won't let you. It's the way it is what can you do. Hopefully we don't see you from the top of the hotel one day with the gun.



I dont know why you mentioned that last part about a gun etc. Please dont associate any of my posts with me conducting any violence. I might sound crazy at times but thats not obviously who i am. What i said about something 'changing soon' was in reference to talking to a lawyer or getting something done in court. Just sick of casinos lying straight to your face at any cost to get your information. So immoral and unethical
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
AxelWolf
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March 14th, 2018 at 12:28:45 AM permalink
I'm fairly sure this is a picture ZK on his off time.


FYI I believe that's the first time I have ever posted a picture.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
darkoz
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March 14th, 2018 at 12:31:23 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

I dont know why you mentioned that last part about a gun etc. Please dont associate any of my posts with me conducting any violence. I might sound crazy at times but thats not obviously who i am. What i said about something 'changing soon' was in reference to talking to a lawyer or getting something done in court. Just sick of casinos lying straight to your face at any cost to get your information. So immoral and unethical



Let them confiscate your chips. Then contact Bob n. Then collect your payday
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AxelWolf
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March 14th, 2018 at 12:32:05 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Let them confiscate your chips. Then contact Bob n. Then collect your payday

Wrong.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
ZenKinG
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March 14th, 2018 at 12:49:40 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Let them confiscate your chips. Then contact Bob n. Then collect your payday



Theyre not confiscating the chips, but they say they wont return them to me and will 'hold' them until I show ID. That cant be legal. I should have a right to my chips back if i decide to not show ID, especially if they didnt request ID before i gave them the chips
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.

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