Keyser
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February 12th, 2018 at 9:24:58 PM permalink
What is the payout for blackjack there?
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February 12th, 2018 at 9:26:02 PM permalink
3 dollars for every 2
Keyser
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February 12th, 2018 at 9:37:45 PM permalink
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I have this slight feeling that the shufflers are using a techinque called the Iterated Prisoners Dilemma to set up hands.



I'm assuming that you're counting card to try and get an edge. Do you feel this is taking place only when the count is favorable to the player?
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February 12th, 2018 at 9:44:48 PM permalink
actually no im pretty fresh in this game. ive always been under the impression it was bad to do (haha). but i am slowly starting to try at least. I use the ad both cards up in one hand to get one score and then calculate the next hand with the last score method when i do try it (i have severe adhd and cant pay attention makeing me the perfect target for gambling). I do notice people trying to count cards but there is too much activity around each table, as in too much vairance within the amount of players coming and going all the time.
Keyser
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February 12th, 2018 at 9:51:39 PM permalink
If you're not an AP, then why are you so worried about all of these conspiracies? The casinos house edge is more than enough to beat you and keep you as a consistent loser over time without having to resort to "Iterated Prisoners Dilemma" or "repulsive roulette balls."
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February 12th, 2018 at 9:58:50 PM permalink
Im not AP when it comes to blackjack, but i will label myself AP when it comes to roulette. Which is why I know what i know and have dug as deep as i did. I am also not claiming that these things can be seen anywhere else but where I live. I can show you exactly what I am speaking about when it comes to the prisoners dilemma at any table. You can walk from table to table at any time and usually see each dealer pulling 21 from nothing.
michael99000
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February 12th, 2018 at 10:03:40 PM permalink
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i will label myself AP when it comes to roulette.



If I could summarize this entire thread in one sentence , there it is

You should get in touch with EvenBobs friend who had 137 straight winning roulette sessions. You roulette APs need to band together against the doubters .. and math
Keyser
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February 12th, 2018 at 10:04:12 PM permalink
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i will label myself AP when it comes to roulette.



What kind of an AP roulette player are you? VB? Wheel bias? How large is your edge over the casino?
onenickelmiracle
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Thanks for this post from:
GlenG
February 13th, 2018 at 12:05:29 AM permalink
What if the ball never behaved as you thought you saw it and your mind played tricks on you?
Time to start a new signature, this time it will rhyme.
GlenG
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February 13th, 2018 at 12:08:17 AM permalink
*Tin foil hat area*

In my 7 years dealing roulette, I notice the ball is made of plastic and its a game of physics (like craps). There is literally nothing the casino can do to make you lose worse than roulette already is. Also, no casino pays the dealers enough to be in on it.

If you really think they are after you personally, then you should probably call that 800 number about problem gambling.

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