HE of 6:5 BJ including split hands?

if you split 10s (10/j/q/k) and get an Ace, you get paid 6:5.
same with splitting aces and getting a 10.

Whats the HE for
1) unfavorable rules: 8 decks, h17, no surrender, split 4 times, no rsa
2) favorable rules: 8 decks, s17, surrender, split 4 times, rsa

When you split and get paid 6:5 for "21"... is the overall base game 3:2 or 6:5? Are you paid immediately or can the dealer push you with 21?

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When you split and get paid 6:5 for "21"... is the overall base game 3:2 or 6:5? Are you paid immediately or can the dealer push you with 21?

base game also pays 6:5 for bj.
paid immediately, just like getting bj on 1st 2 cards

I don't think it helps much. I don't think that even in a standard 3:2 game, getting 3:2 after being 21 by splitting 10's or aces doesn't turn it +EV.

A-10 after splitting aces is blackjack is +.19%, for 3:2 pay. So the 6:5 pay must be near worthless, like .05%. However, the splitting 10's would bonus a few more as well... Maybe like .1% return to player due to that rule. The base game being 6:5 is what kills anything here. That just makes the game awful awful awful. 6:5 is not blackjack, it's crapjack.

There would be no effect on a BS player with regards to split tens, as the payoff would not be enough to make splitting tens BS against any upcard (from a crude analysis I did even 3:2 wouldn't cut it, but a 2:1 payoff would make splitting tens BS against a 5 or 6).

Of course if you're counting a higher payoff for a 21 would lower the indices, but most counters wouldn't count a 6:5 game to begin with.