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January 31st, 2017 at 6:53:03 AM permalink
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[M]y bad if i gave a narrow response ...



Poor Zen. Man, I feel your pain! Here you are, about to embark on the adventure of a lifetime to the gambling capital of the country. How really great if we could all (metaphorically) plop down in the second seat beside you as you travel West.

Instead, I see so many comments that almost make the Spanish Inquisition pale by comparison. (Well, perhaps I exaggerate a little. But, only a little!)

Quote: Imaginary Courtroom


ATTORNEY: Now did you or did you not say you were leaving on that date?

DEFENDANT: Well, I may have said that at an earlier time, but things changed.

ATTORNEY: Ah, HAH! Hostile witness, Your Honor. The witness consistently waffles about the facts. Now, sir, let me remind you, you are under oath. Did you or did you not say you would seek employment upon your arrival?

DEFENDANT: Well, my intention is not to seek formal employment when I arrive. But, I have considered it as a fall-back plan.

ATTORNEY: Ah, HAH! Regarding your bankroll...

JUDGE LUCKY: Mr. Attorney, please focus your interrogation on the broader, life-changing aspects of this matter.

ATTORNEY: But, Your Honor! I haven't yet had asked about travel routes and car windows...

JUDGE LUCKY: Sheesh... Proceed, if you must.


Just like everyone else, I have greatly enjoyed PokerGrinder's Asian adventure. And, I know Tennessee ain't no Singapore. But, Zen, I wish you the best on your trip, and I look forward to you sharing (from afar) whatever part of your journey you post on this forum. Petal to the metal, Buddy!

Now, just how does one unfasten this judicial robe?



I liked this post. Funny. Entertaining.

I for one am not trying to play some sort of prosecutor. I never call the cops or go to court. I handle things face to face on my own.

The problem is that we have been strung along on this soap opera for 3 months now. At first I was enjoying the discussion and giving as much sound advice from my own experiences as I could. It just doesn't add up that the first post is about how he is going to leave his parents house and move to Vegas. He is mad at them for paying for college that he didn't want and can't seem to use after quitting two jobs. He likes Black Jack and decides that he wants to do that for a living. After that he wanted to wait for the holidays. Next he ran into a loss at the tables and having trouble getting letters in the mail being 86'd out of Casinos. He told us he swore off Black Jack and was happy that he was ahead 20k in the end and that nobody can beat or tell the ZenKinG what to do. He pretty much refuses any sound advice given on this forum. Swears up and down that he can't be beat and refuses to learn anything but counting cards in Black Jack. He knows all the ins and outs of the eye in the sky because he read a book. He knows all about what to do and what not to do in Vegas because he read a book. He delays the trip again because of weather. Next he posts a new thread about how he wants to change his strategy and back count alone more and how to do it. Now he posts up another thread that he was wrong about his hourly. This was already pointed out by Romes months ago that he was probably incorrect on his estimate of hourly win rate.

Now I find out he has driven Limo in NYC and in NJ. All of this after going to college and having two jobs with a business degree. So he is going to think that because he drove in NYC that Vegas is a cake walk to drive taxi or limo in? I understand that experience in NYC is great but Vegas is a different animal. If you get caught picking up flags here you get fines and heavy fines, that is why people join the Union here because they help reduce your fines or get them erased. That is why you pay them bi-weekly dues to go to court for you and if you strike you get paid to picket. Not that you won't pick up flags but it isn't like NYC. You better learn how to take the tunnel out of the airport and take everyone the long way to and from the airport. When you get caught which happens from time to time your union official will help you out of the tickets. Years ago the Limos stole all the fares going to the strip clubs which would net you 20-50 dollars a head. So that game is gone for the taxi driver. You can still hustle the fares to take them to the massage parlors or get them escorts but if you get caught soliciting it can be trouble as well. So you can make some bank driving taxi or limo or uber or lyft here but you better get ready to lie, cheat and steal. If you try to play it straight your gonna have trouble making book which will get you fired in the end. If you play it straight and make average book which is possible you will not be able to take a lunch and you will never be able to stop driving your taxi around. This is a 12 hour shift out here and you have to account for a few hours to and from. So your looking at 15 to 16 hour days to make an average of 40k your first year if you play it straight. Now add in your dues and medical and other expenses and your making minimum wage with NO OVERTIME! Years ago you could make serious money playing it straight driving taxi in Vegas but those days are gone. I knew drivers playing all the angles making 80k per year net! Taxi companies out here have some crazy 95% turnover rate so what do you think your odds are that you make it? If you lose one job you can go to the next and the next so you get about 6 or 7 chances. First go to YCS after that try Frias next over to Nellis maybe after that you try Desert lol after that Western and next if all that fails you can try some Henderson companies. Oh and don't forget they have this camera on you 24/7 now in the Taxi. So if you do something wrong they catch you and talk to you in the office. Now you can disable the camera which can help but if you get caught they will fire you as well. I never got caught disabling my camera but I wasn't around very long anyway.

Also just like in APing these taxi drivers Team Up so ZenKinG like myself as an independent making it much harder on himself to make bank or know where the hot spots are.

I really don't come to this site to talk about the weather or fantasy and that is what continues on with this guy and his threads. You want to believe his BS you can go right on ahead and believe it but I see no sign of seriousness from this poster. I guess most of you are entertained so it continues on.
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January 31st, 2017 at 10:34:26 AM permalink
Quote: monet0412

Quote: LuckyPhow

Quote: ZenKinG

[M]y bad if i gave a narrow response ...



Poor Zen. Man, I feel your pain! Here you are, about to embark on the adventure of a lifetime to the gambling capital of the country. How really great if we could all (metaphorically) plop down in the second seat beside you as you travel West.

Instead, I see so many comments that almost make the Spanish Inquisition pale by comparison. (Well, perhaps I exaggerate a little. But, only a little!)

Quote: Imaginary Courtroom


ATTORNEY: Now did you or did you not say you were leaving on that date?

DEFENDANT: Well, I may have said that at an earlier time, but things changed.

ATTORNEY: Ah, HAH! Hostile witness, Your Honor. The witness consistently waffles about the facts. Now, sir, let me remind you, you are under oath. Did you or did you not say you would seek employment upon your arrival?

DEFENDANT: Well, my intention is not to seek formal employment when I arrive. But, I have considered it as a fall-back plan.

ATTORNEY: Ah, HAH! Regarding your bankroll...

JUDGE LUCKY: Mr. Attorney, please focus your interrogation on the broader, life-changing aspects of this matter.

ATTORNEY: But, Your Honor! I haven't yet had asked about travel routes and car windows...

JUDGE LUCKY: Sheesh... Proceed, if you must.


Just like everyone else, I have greatly enjoyed PokerGrinder's Asian adventure. And, I know Tennessee ain't no Singapore. But, Zen, I wish you the best on your trip, and I look forward to you sharing (from afar) whatever part of your journey you post on this forum. Petal to the metal, Buddy!

Now, just how does one unfasten this judicial robe?



I liked this post. Funny. Entertaining.

I for one am not trying to play some sort of prosecutor. I never call the cops or go to court. I handle things face to face on my own.

The problem is that we have been strung along on this soap opera for 3 months now. At first I was enjoying the discussion and giving as much sound advice from my own experiences as I could. It just doesn't add up that the first post is about how he is going to leave his parents house and move to Vegas. He is mad at them for paying for college that he didn't want and can't seem to use after quitting two jobs. He likes Black Jack and decides that he wants to do that for a living. After that he wanted to wait for the holidays. Next he ran into a loss at the tables and having trouble getting letters in the mail being 86'd out of Casinos. He told us he swore off Black Jack and was happy that he was ahead 20k in the end and that nobody can beat or tell the ZenKinG what to do. He pretty much refuses any sound advice given on this forum. Swears up and down that he can't be beat and refuses to learn anything but counting cards in Black Jack. He knows all the ins and outs of the eye in the sky because he read a book. He knows all about what to do and what not to do in Vegas because he read a book. He delays the trip again because of weather. Next he posts a new thread about how he wants to change his strategy and back count alone more and how to do it. Now he posts up another thread that he was wrong about his hourly. This was already pointed out by Romes months ago that he was probably incorrect on his estimate of hourly win rate.

Now I find out he has driven Limo in NYC and in NJ. All of this after going to college and having two jobs with a business degree. So he is going to think that because he drove in NYC that Vegas is a cake walk to drive taxi or limo in? I understand that experience in NYC is great but Vegas is a different animal. If you get caught picking up flags here you get fines and heavy fines, that is why people join the Union here because they help reduce your fines or get them erased. That is why you pay them bi-weekly dues to go to court for you and if you strike you get paid to picket. Not that you won't pick up flags but it isn't like NYC. You better learn how to take the tunnel out of the airport and take everyone the long way to and from the airport. When you get caught which happens from time to time your union official will help you out of the tickets. Years ago the Limos stole all the fares going to the strip clubs which would net you 20-50 dollars a head. So that game is gone for the taxi driver. You can still hustle the fares to take them to the massage parlors or get them escorts but if you get caught soliciting it can be trouble as well. So you can make some bank driving taxi or limo or uber or lyft here but you better get ready to lie, cheat and steal. If you try to play it straight your gonna have trouble making book which will get you fired in the end. If you play it straight and make average book which is possible you will not be able to take a lunch and you will never be able to stop driving your taxi around. This is a 12 hour shift out here and you have to account for a few hours to and from. So your looking at 15 to 16 hour days to make an average of 40k your first year if you play it straight. Now add in your dues and medical and other expenses and your making minimum wage with NO OVERTIME! Years ago you could make serious money playing it straight driving taxi in Vegas but those days are gone. I knew drivers playing all the angles making 80k per year net! Taxi companies out here have some crazy 95% turnover rate so what do you think your odds are that you make it? If you lose one job you can go to the next and the next so you get about 6 or 7 chances. First go to YCS after that try Frias next over to Nellis maybe after that you try Desert lol after that Western and next if all that fails you can try some Henderson companies. Oh and don't forget they have this camera on you 24/7 now in the Taxi. So if you do something wrong they catch you and talk to you in the office. Now you can disable the camera which can help but if you get caught they will fire you as well. I never got caught disabling my camera but I wasn't around very long anyway.

Also just like in APing these taxi drivers Team Up so ZenKinG like myself as an independent making it much harder on himself to make bank or know where the hot spots are.

I really don't come to this site to talk about the weather or fantasy and that is what continues on with this guy and his threads. You want to believe his BS you can go right on ahead and believe it but I see no sign of seriousness from this poster. I guess most of you are entertained so it continues on.

+1.
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January 31st, 2017 at 1:06:01 PM permalink
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+1.



Aw c'mon SC. You quote almost an entire thread and add just two characters, when there's a perfectly serviceable 'Thanks' button?
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January 31st, 2017 at 1:52:40 PM permalink
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I see no sign of seriousness from this poster. I guess most of you are entertained so it continues on.



Monet,

I'll start by saying that I have found the info you -- and so many others -- have shared to be most interesting. And, I completely agree so many times that info has been pushed aside for any of a number of inscrutable (to me) reasons. In my youth I probably made decisions that left others shaking their heads. To me, that seems to be the case with Zen. But, he asserts with that bottomless confidence of youth that he can figure it all out as he goes along. And, maybe he can. Maybe he has a surprise or two coming.

When someone asks me for advice, I try to keep in mind that the other person must decide whether or not to take my suggestion(s). It should never be a question of whether I'm right or wrong. Does the other person consider my comment right or wrong for her/him? I (try to) take no offense if the other person blows it off.

A long time ago an old fella told me I should never try to teach a pig to sing because it annoys the pig and it wastes my time.

So, I'm happy to be a cheering section for Zen. He may crash and burn. Or, he may succeed in his quest. If he posts a question where I believe I can provide a worthwhile response, I'll do so. But, I won't argue if he replies, "I don't think so." I cannot understand why so many others, figuratively speaking, continue to bang their heads against a brick wall. Why not just reply, "Well, that was my 2 cents. Lemmie know how it works out."

As for myself, I cannot begin to describe the wealth of information so many posters have shared on WoV. It has been a graduate-level class in game dynamics, statistics, casino management, resort operations, gaming law, and the list goes on and on. My cup runneth over and I rejoice in the bounty shared with me.

But, I'll end by saying I completely agree with the snippet I quoted (above) from your previous post.
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January 31st, 2017 at 2:04:40 PM permalink
IMO monet's post about driving taxi in LV is solid gold. Post of the week. Incredibly useful to have someone with that experience give that much detail. Hope it gets used by anyone interested, not just ZK.
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January 31st, 2017 at 2:06:05 PM permalink
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Aw c'mon SC. You quote almost an entire thread and add jut two characters, when there's a perfectly serviceable 'Thanks' button?

thank you
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January 31st, 2017 at 2:17:31 PM permalink
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IMO monet's post about driving taxi in LV is solid gold. Post of the week. Incredibly useful to have someone with that experience give that much detail. Hope it gets used by anyone interested, not just ZK.

Well, when I return to Vegas, I guess I'll avoid taxis. Could be expensive else.
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January 31st, 2017 at 2:33:45 PM permalink
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Well, when I return to Vegas, I guess I'll avoid taxis. Could be expensive else.



You don't have to avoid taxis. You need to know the direct route you want to take and tell the driver how to go. They have taxi calculators on your smart phones or websites now to tell you how much and how many miles your trip is give or take a few dollars. Watch out for uber and lyft during peak hours and locations cause they charge extra fees automatically on your credit card and you will have a harder time disputing it. With a taxi driver you can refuse to pay a certain amount if your getting cheated. You can also call or threaten to call the TA which will take hours and the driver will just cave in. If your destination is a casino you can complain to the valet because they know the real fare prices and will help you if you have a problem.

However, anyone and everyone who takes taxis knows they long haul and cheat the fare price all the time. It's kinda expected all around the world. Like Math Ex says... your high rolling AP is losing money if he has to take time to fight for ten dollar over charges. Heck you guys are buying 25 dollar Coca Colas so no biggie!

Seriously though just tell the cabbie the exact way you want to go and they usually will comply. You might here some griping though in an unknown language.

Most important thing to remember when going to or from the airport is to tell your driver "No Tunnel!"
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January 31st, 2017 at 2:38:26 PM permalink
Yes, I also find this site interesting and helpful because members contribute their knowledge and real life experiences. Some information I really doubt you can get it somewhere.
Concerning about the OP. MY impression is
1-A young know all fella.
2-He is the smartest and everyone else is just dumb.
3-Some extreme and disturbing thoughts.
4-Unless he is really something special, he will crash in a hurry. I mean in a hurry.
If first impression is important, he seems to alienate a lot of people.
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