bklounge87
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December 16th, 2016 at 10:39:03 PM permalink
Saw the Wizard's video on this new game. Am I crazy or does this seem way too good? Knowing the dealer, for example, has a stiff 12-17, is insanely beneficial. Am I overestimating the player advantage, or is the dealer 22 push really give that much of a house edge?
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December 16th, 2016 at 11:13:40 PM permalink
You're overestimating the player advantage.
Romes
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December 19th, 2016 at 7:05:40 AM permalink
Dealer push 22 (instead of busting) is worth 6.91% to the house edge... If you have an "average" .5% HE game before that rule, you're effectively upping the house edge by more than 10x...
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December 19th, 2016 at 7:20:27 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Dealer push 22...6.91%...

If I read it correctly what's interesting about this is it's a modified "Push 22" whereby 21 and 2-card hands win, whereas others stand-off.
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December 19th, 2016 at 8:46:14 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Dealer push 22 (instead of busting) is worth 6.91% to the house edge... If you have an "average" .5% HE game before that rule, you're effectively upping the house edge by more than 10x...

You're making it sound worse than necessary. Sure, Push22 costs some edge, but the semiexposed down card is a partial advantage. Those two things, more or less cancel each other out.


Quote: charliepatrick

If I read it correctly what's interesting about this is it's a modified "Push 22" whereby 21 and 2-card hands win, whereas others stand-off.

Yeah, it's a modified rule that only partially encroaches on Switch's patent.
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December 19th, 2016 at 9:35:17 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Yeah, it's a modified rule that only partially encroaches on Switch's patent.



LOL


But to confirm, I believe its the "Golden Rule", where the dealers down card is a gold value (face/ace). If its gold, than push 22 in activated...
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September 13th, 2017 at 4:14:39 PM permalink
Looking for a little more info on this game. I've played it a little, and it is interesting. But not much in the way of written advice can be found, not by me anyway. No books, no Wizard strategy article, not much posted about it. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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February 18th, 2018 at 5:33:20 PM permalink
I just posted a video on the new version of Down Under Blackjack. Enjoy!



Direct link: https://youtu.be/3XmQavFbuak
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February 19th, 2018 at 5:51:02 AM permalink
I would play this for a lark
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February 19th, 2018 at 9:38:56 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I would play this for a lark



It's confusing as hell, a real challenge at first. Wizard has posted the Basic Strategy now, it's difficult, (for me), to implement, but it just takes effort. I am impressed with the game, the concept. I think it is a winner. My compliments to the inventors. (and to Wizard for the Basic Strategy)
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