Moving out to play

I see some folks at the dog park wearing guns on their hips., and have seen one or two at the supermarket.

Quote: billryan

I see some folks at the dog park wearing guns on their hips., and have seen one or two at the supermarket.

Did that scare you? Try some coloring books and a warm blanket or two.

Why would they scare me? My question is what are they so afraid of they can't leave their house without a gun? Balrogs in the woodpile? Rabid coyote? A future that is passing them by?

Quote: billryan

I see some folks at the dog park wearing guns on their hips., and have seen one or two at the supermarket.

Well ya, because idiots bring their pit bulls to the dog parks.

What is this supermarket thing you talk of?

Quote: billryan

Why would they scare me? My question is what are they so afraid of they can't leave their house without a gun? Balrogs in the woodpile? Rabid coyote? A future that is passing them by?

Come on, everyone knows balrogs can't hide in woodpiles. Everything would catch on fire...

Quote: AxelWolf

Well ya, because idiots bring their pit bulls to the dog parks...

Not sure if you're being serious or not... but to dispell any myths there is no such thing as an inherently aggressive or angry breed of dog; It ALL revolves around the leader (often the human, sometimes not). I could train any breed of dog to rip your face off on command. People just think of Pit bulls, german shephards, rots, etc as this because people chose these breeds to manipulate because they're larger/stronger.

Place to pick up middle aged housewives.

Quote: Romes

Not sure if you're being serious or not... but to dispell any myths there is no such thing as an inherently aggressive or angry breed of dog; It ALL revolves around the leader (often the human, sometimes not). I could train any breed of dog to rip your face off on command. People just think of Pit bulls, german shephards, rots, etc as this because people chose these breeds to manipulate because they're larger/stronger.

While I don't disagree with you, when two breeds are responsible for well over 90 percent of serious dog attacks, I have to give that serious consideration, as well.

Quote: billryan

While I don't disagree with you, when two breeds are responsible for well over 90 percent of serious dog attacks, I have to give that serious consideration, as well.

They're not though; that's more misleading information. How many times in your life have you been nipped or bit by a dog that is < 50 lbs? Now how many times have you been nipped or bit by a dog > 50 lbs? The smaller dogs most commonly are the more aggressive because people treat them like their kids, babying them and not "leading" them. When a dog doesn't sense a dominant energy they will take it upon themselves to lead the pack, which is why most small dogs are actually FAR MORE aggressive than most large dogs (of any breed).

Less we forget the data is SKEWED too due to the fact that humans CHOOSE these stronger dogs to TRAIN to attack/fight. So while "those" breeds might be the leader in hospital visits, again, it has literally nothing to do with the breed and all to do with the leader training them. It's sickening that people/places/etc put breed restrictions on things yet they won't put human restrictions on things. If your IQ is below X, you shouldn't be allowed to own a dog. That actually makes more sense than saying "german shephards and pit bulls aren't allowed to live in our association."

Dogs are so domesticated that they can literally be molded to do anything you want them to do. Whenever a dog does ANYTHING (scratching, chewing, barking, jumping, etc, etc, etc) you don't want them to do, it's because you haven't trained them properly to do what you do what them to do. It's 100% the human element, each and every time. It has been for my 11+ years of dog behavioral psychology, and will be for my next 60+.

p.s. No that's not my day job, just something I've studied and enjoyed volunteering for over the years.

Quote: billryan

Why would they scare me? My question is what are they so afraid of they can't leave their house without a gun? Balrogs in the woodpile? Rabid coyote? A future that is passing them by?

Who says anyone open or conceal carrying is scared or afraid?

Quote: Romes

Not sure if you're being serious or not... but to dispell any myths there is no such thing as an inherently aggressive or angry breed of dog; It ALL revolves around the leader (often the human, sometimes not). I could train any breed of dog to rip your face off on command. People just think of Pit bulls, german shephards, rots, etc as this because people chose these breeds to manipulate because they're inherently aggressive & angry breeds of dogs*

Fixed that for ya.

Quote: Romes

Not sure if you're being serious or not... but to dispell any myths there is no such thing as an inherently aggressive or angry breed of dog; It ALL revolves around the leader (often the human, sometimes not). I could train any breed of dog to rip your face off on command. People just think of Pit bulls, german shephards, rots, etc as this because people chose these breeds to manipulate because they're larger/stronger.

We have had this agreement before. IIRC you were raised by a pack of wild Pitbulls. (-;
I do believe they are more aggressive than other dogs. I don't know who raised a random pit bull so I'm not taking any chances with one. I can't stand people who don't keep a tight leash on their dogs. Famous last words, "Didn't worry he doesn't bite"

Show me the data for deaths caused by Pomeranians vs pit bulls.
Perhaps banning certain breeds actually manages to keep a certain type of human out, which is just as good.
I've been around dogs my whole life and have known plenty of great pits. I still wouldn't have one around kids. I've owned Sheperds and while they are great around their family, I wouldn't have left mine unsupervised around strange kids. Unlike my 85 pound goldendoodle, who doesn't have a vicious bone in his body.

We can be prejudiced against dogs but not people, now?

I have two Pit Bull/Lab mixes that are very gentle actually :) ! I had a Pit Bull/Mix for the last 14 years that I just had to put down and I didn't pay some Vet to do my dirty work for me cause her hips were gone and couldn't walk to get a drink of water. This BS about how Pit Bulls are some crazy killing dog is only from people who don't have them or never been around them. My dog was all bark and scared of her own shadow. She had some problem with anxiety with large public crowds and would shake a lot if you took her out in them so I kept her alone most of the time with me and my family. Great Family Dog actually for what it is worth!

So if you carry but conceal it than your not afraid or just as afraid? Doesn't really matter, who cares anyway. You want to carry a weapon your allowed. You don't want to carry a weapon your allowed as well. If you lived here in the 70s and 80s you might feel a little different about carrying weapons. If you lived in the 1800s or early 1900s you would for sure of felt different. I know when I go to a gun show or look to buy a weapon it seems that many Americans are using them. I for one would not want my government to control all the guns or only be the ones with all of them.

About the Emerald Suites. I don't really care where he lives. I am just saying that I have known people to live there and had no problems whatsoever. I have slept there myself many times and even had to stay in one of the Budget Suites for a few weeks on Boulder Highway. I ended up paying 900 for the month up front with no problems with any bugs. If they really had so many problems with bed bugs do you think they could stay in business? I mean I can understand Roaches but Bed Bugs are very difficult to deal with. Those places are almost always around 85 to 90% capacity.

Anyways... like I said. I was just suggesting. Giving you an option that nobody on here suggested. Nobody has to take it. You can live where ever you want. You don't have to move around every 3 days when you live in Casinos but I have done that many times in the last 20 years. I have a suite at the 4 Queens right now and am supposed to check out in 20 minutes but I don't think I'll make it because I am posting on this stupid site :) ! You want to pay more for rent in a nicer place that is more safe. I am sure that you can find it. Others have said about 1000 to 1200 a month and you pay for everything else and buy your furniture. You can do it! Your a high rolling, can't be beat, black jack counting machine!! You should be fine. Living the High Life soon enough anyway :) ! Just remember... like Axel said about the Blow and Hookers... make sure you factor that into your budget for the month!

Quote: MathExtremist

Come on, everyone knows balrogs can't hide in woodpiles. Everything would catch on fire...

Why would the boxer from street fighter ll be hiding in a woodpile?

Quote: RS

We can be prejudiced against dogs but not people, now?

I hate the color violet. Doesn't make me a bad person. It's all the other stuff I do that does.

Quote: AxelWolf

Famous last words, "Didn't worry he doesn't bite"

In the real estate field I've heard this a million times. My response is always "He may not bite you but I'd appreciate it if you locked him up til I leave."

Romes makes a good point. I've been bitten by dogs big and small. It's just that the big dogs cause more damage. I was evaluating a house in Compton and called the agent to make sure it was ok to see it. No one said anything about dogs and I didn't see any. So I use the lockbox to open the gate, turn around and close it, lock it, turn back around and a pit bull is standing two feet in front of me. She started wagging her tail and wanting to play. Theyre not all killers.

I agree, but I like my chances better stumbling into a Pomeranian than a Pit.

Killer Dogs ?? I agree they are more aggressive than other breeds but you try to have two retrievers in your house and see how much time you spend cleaning up the dog hair from shedding. Spend some serious time teaching and training them from pups and you will have gentle dogs.

My two new pit/mix puppies...

^^^^^^^^^^^ Holy s**t those dogs are adorable... lol.

Quote: AxelWolf

We have had this agreement before. IIRC you were raised by a pack of wild Pitbulls. (-;
I do believe they are more aggressive than other dogs. I don't know who raised a random pit bull so I'm not taking any chances with one. I can't stand people who don't keep a tight leash on their dogs. Famous last words, "Didn't worry he doesn't bite"

Here's a question then... Do you avoid "fit" guys with muscles you see around you? After all, you don't know how they were raised or what their morals are... Same principle, right? Condemn them because they "could" do more damage than a smaller person, right? Maybe we should ban "fit" guys from communities?

People often keep a tight grip on their leashes because pit bulls are some of the CUDDLIEST dogs I've ever met so they constantly want to run up to everyone and give them kisses/play. They are stronger dogs, so it takes more to keep them in control if you don't know what you're doing. Thus, they're almost "bracing" themselves if the dog wants to just simply say hello.... Which btw is a way to make the dog go say hello (when you pull back on the leash every dogs natural instinct will be to lunge forward). This is why when you correct with a leash it's to the side/up and not back.

Quote: billryan

Unless the law was recently changed, it is illegal for a casino to allow a guest to stay more than thirty days in a row. They are not licensed as a boarding house. That's why the extended stay hotels don't offer gambling.

Biggest whale in Northern California has had 2 rooms at casino for past 3-4 years. It's what happens when you spend $40K/week.

Small-budget pro stayed at Southern California casino for about 2 years before moving to Vegas in 2016.

Quote: billryan

Six month lease is good...

Would not suggest locking yourself into a six month lease if you plan to live for free in casinos.

Casinos typically send offers on a 1-month delay, meaning if you play in Dec 2016, then 3rd week of Jan 2017, they will probably send offers for Feb 2017. Some casinos are more immediate & will send postcards in the first week. And if your play is heavy, you can get discretionary comps immediately (In 2010, I was told 6,000 coin-in/day on strip, 6,800 coin-in for Bellagio/Caesars).

You might do a weekly for the first month.

When I was on a much smaller budget than yours ($1K-2K bankroll), I would pay for downtown casinos during the week (LVA/ACG coupons, Orbitz coupons, Hotel point systems, etc...), then hostels on weekends (or sleep in my car - only in winter time, summer was too hot).

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If you want to live in Las Vegas for a few years, then you might think about where you'd actually like to live (and how fancy).
Perhaps you do want a $1,000-3,000/month place for your lifestyle.
...another reason not to lock yourself into a 6-month lease in the wrong location.

Hiking/running trails west of Red Rock are nice. UNLV has a running track.
I like gymnastics, and there are some good gyms in Las Vegas (with some people trying for jobs at the casino shows).

Think about your non-gambling life. ...and whether you will be in Las Vegas 12 months/yr.
You might like Arizona, California, Oregon, Texas, etc...

Quote: mamat

Hiking/running trails west of Red Rock are nice. UNLV has a running track.
I like gymnastics, and there are some good gyms in Las Vegas (with some people trying for jobs at the casino shows).

Whenever staying downtown I'll walk under the bridge to the 24 hour fitness in the same building as the IRS offices. The place is almost empty every time I've gone. The SoCal gyms are packed no matter the time of day. I will say that the few people in that gym are in incredible shape. One guy is some kind of model. He has two photographers who shoot him while he lifts.

I got bit by a dog as a kid. My best friends dog who I never had problems with until one day it just decided to take a bite outta me. I hate unleashed dogs.

Quote: mamat

Bank safe deposit box. Sometimes free if you have enough money in a checking/savings account (or open a business account).

I have a free safe deposit box with Chase.

Well that's a pain in the ass.

If you are going to do that, you can just leave money on deposit at casinos you won't be counting at. You can add or take out cash.

Quote: RogerKint

Whenever staying downtown I'll walk under the bridge to the 24 hour fitness in the same building as the IRS offices. The place is almost empty every time I've gone. The SoCal gyms are packed no matter the time of day. I will say that the few people in that gym are in incredible shape. One guy is some kind of model. He has two photographers who shoot him while he lifts.

Did you get his number?

Quote: AxelWolf

Well that's a pain in the ass.

If you are going to do that, you can just leave money on deposit at casinos you won't be counting at. You can add or take out cash.

If someone's bankroll is 100k, I'm assuming they're not going to use the entire 100k all at once, so it seems that cash management could be another part of sound financial planning. If you have 100k in cash, and you're only using 25k of it at any one time, if you stick the other 75k even in just a savings account you'll make a few extra hundred dollars per year. If your annual gross is $40k and you earn even $400 from interest, that's a 1% improvement in gross.

Or are the opportunities for AP often so immediate that you'd need ready access to that cash 24/7, and the potential EV from that outweighs the risk of having the money locked up?

Quote: MathExtremist

...Or are the opportunities for AP often so immediate that you'd need ready access to that cash 24/7, and the potential EV from that outweighs the risk of having the money locked up?

Variance happens so often that you would need access to ALL of your funds potentially. Then, if you're doing more than counting, you will stumble upon things now and then where you will also need immediate access to more than your normal daily amount too.

Well, ive reached the point where looking for an apartment online and probably even in general seems to be impossible. Every place has negative and positive reviews to the point where it's impossible to know what really is going on. The only way to know is to actually pay for the 6-12 month lease and figure it out on your own. This is the first time im looking for an apartment and so far that's my grasp on this. Looking up reviews seems to be a worthless pursuit.

Put it this way. Keep your hope high and expectation low. Safety is always number 1 concern. Pay the price for a safe place. Get your feet wet and have a feel of the city. Bargain is out there but you have to be on the ground.

Quote: ZenKinG

Well, ive reached the point where looking for an apartment online and probably even in general seems to be impossible. Every place has negative and positive reviews to the point where it's impossible to know what really is going on. The only way to know is to actually pay for the 6-12 month lease and figure it out on your own. This is the first time im looking for an apartment and so far that's my grasp on this. Looking up reviews seems to be a worthless pursuit.

The struggle is real

Your not even in Vegas yet and getting frustrated 😁 !! Let's go pens... Let's go pens!! Like I said before just jump in... The water is fine! You'll be lapping everyone in the pool soon enough. There be sharks in these waters matey!! Arggggh!

That was pretty much my experience. I certainly wouldn't sign a lease without checking it out in person. You can narrow down the list though, so you only have to look at a few.
1) furnished vs unfinished.
2) location. It's possible to find out how many crimes and calls to police come from any block.
3)you want to check the place out in the daytime, but then go back at night.
I had looked at a place close to the Rio that looked nice enough, but when I drove into it at night there were several groups of rough looking characters hanging out.
4) take your time. Your budget allows you to stay in hotels for awhile. Hotels are cheap during the week.
5) Don't settle for less. As a prospective AP who is new in town, I spend a lot of time in my apartment. Much more than I did in NY.
You will want a pool, and maybe a gym. The difference between a below average apartment complex and a nice one is a couple dollars a day. Well worth it.
6) Stay positive and keep your eye on the prize.

How is not having a credit card going to affect me? How many apartments there will let me lease out with no credit? lol. What about the decent apartments at 800+? Im sure they all want some type of credit. So it looks like im going to have to get a garbage apartment in the middle of the slums LOL.

Quote: ZenKinG

How is not having a credit card going to affect me? How many apartments there will let me lease out with no credit? lol. What about the decent apartments at 800+? Im sure they all want some type of credit. So it looks like im going to have to get a garbage apartment in the middle of the slums LOL.

Get a credit card now and start using it for everything and paying it off every month. Not having a credit history coming out of college was a blunder, don't continue making that blunder into your late 20s. It's just part of the game of interacting with the economy around you. You don't actually have to play that game, but you'll be severely limited in how you can interact with most businesses.

As for finding an apartment sight-unseen, I wouldn't do it without at least having someone that I trusted personally check it out first. Your better bet is to move into an extended stay hotel for a few weeks while you're apartment hunting. I stayed two weeks at the Extended Stay America location in Las Vegas midtown on a self-funded business trip once. The neighborhood was fine (it's across from the hospitals). I got a corporate relocation package when I first moved to Las Vegas. Before I bought a house I lived in a furnished place near Warm Springs and Eastern, that was also a fine neighborhood. But I just checked, the cheapest rents there are $1k/month so that might not be workable for you.

But your best bet might be to stay with your parents for the next six months while you build up your credit history, and put off the move until you can get a better deal. You may find that's your only practical option.

There are other possibilities.
Can you convince your parents to co-sign the lease? That would be easiest.
There are also companies that, for a fee, will co-sign with you, making them responsible. I know next to nothing about them, you would need to investigate them yourself. Be sure to get a lists of all the fees.
Next possibility is taking over a lease from someone who has one and wants to move.

Also, right now might not be the best time to start an AP career in Las Vegas:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/casino-industry-adding-more-people-black-book

Quote: MathExtremist

Get a credit card now and start using it for everything and paying it off every month. Not having a credit history coming out of college was a blunder, don't continue making that blunder into your late 20s. It's just part of the game of interacting with the economy around you. You don't actually have to play that game, but you'll be severely limited in how you can interact with most businesses.

As for finding an apartment sight-unseen, I wouldn't do it without at least having someone that I trusted personally check it out first. Your better bet is to move into an extended stay hotel for a few weeks while you're apartment hunting. I stayed two weeks at the Extended Stay America location in Las Vegas midtown on a self-funded business trip once. The neighborhood was fine (it's across from the hospitals). I got a corporate relocation package when I first moved to Las Vegas. Before I bought a house I lived in a furnished place near Warm Springs and Eastern, that was also a fine neighborhood. But I just checked, the cheapest rents there are $1k/month so that might not be workable for you.

But your best bet might be to stay with your parents for the next six months while you build up your credit history, and put off the move until you can get a better deal. You may find that's your only practical option.

Well yea, i never planned on signing a lease without first 'seeing' the apartment with my own eyes. But I really want to cut down my options as much as i can before going out there so i dont have to spend weeks in a hotel and apartment hunting. I really want to narrow it down so i have a good idea where im going to stay and so i can schedule some service appointments from internet providers so by the time i get there they are ready to install the internet, etc.

I think i found a pretty good place and it's located in Henderson. Check this out and let me know what you guys think.

http://www.apartments.com/firenze-henderson-nv/5d391sp/

How much for 1 bedroom?

OP: I think you're going at this all wrong.

Instead of renting an apartment and signing a long term lease, I think you should check out the "shared housing" and "housing sublet" sections on the Las Vegas craigslist.

Four hundred a month seems the norm, and that gives you the flexibility to cut and run if Las Vegas isn't really for you, and/or the time to carefully check out and vet long term rentals once you arrive and decide you want to stay.

Quote: MrV

OP: I think you're going at this all wrong.

Instead of renting an apartment and signing a long term lease, I think you should check out the "shared housing" and "housing sublet" sections on the Las Vegas craigslist.

Four hundred a month seems the norm, and that gives you the flexibility to cut and run if Las Vegas isn't really for you, and/or the time to carefully check out and vet long term rentals once you arrive and decide you want to stay.

That's actually probably not a bad idea to rent a room.

I'd imagine if you meet with people about renting a room in their house, you can tell what kind of people they are and all that. They are going to be more worried about you than you should be worried about them (re: stealing).

Then after a few months of renting out a room while apartment searching, you can determine:

1) If you want to stay in LV.
2) Where in LV you'd want to get an apartment.
3) Which apartment area best suites your needs.

And if you don't want to stay in LV, then figure out where else you'll want to move -- either back to near PA or some other area. And you won't be stuck in a 6-month lease (if say, after 2 months, you decide you hate LV).

Quote: RS

And if you don't want to stay in LV, then figure out where else you'll want to move -- either back to near PA or some other area. And you won't be stuck in a 6-month lease (if say, after 2 months, you decide you hate LV).

It's only December, it'll take him longer than 2 months to decide if he hates LV. Usually that starts in June when suddenly it's 110 outside. If you can make it through your first summer in Vegas, the rest are easy...

I wouldn't make it through my first April in Vegas, much less a summer.

Quote: MathExtremist

Also, right now might not be the best time to start an AP career in Las Vegas:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/casino-industry-adding-more-people-black-book

"We're an industry based on integrity." I haven't laughed as hard, or seen as big of a bald faced lie, since Before the election, and possibly never outside of politics

I don't know the place but it's a good neighborhood. I'm in The Commons, on Sunset and Annie Oakley about a mile and a half away.
You'd be closer to the Boulder Strip casinos than the Strip, and a distance from Downtown. I go by the place fairly often. I'll give it a once over for you.

I'm always skeptical of people looking for a roommate on craigslist. Are they so broken they don't have a friend or co-worker to rent to?
Obviously that's not always the case but I think it's a concern.

Quote: MrV

OP: I think you're going at this all wrong.

Instead of renting an apartment and signing a long term lease, I think you should check out the "shared housing" and "housing sublet" sections on the Las Vegas craigslist.

Four hundred a month seems the norm, and that gives you the flexibility to cut and run if Las Vegas isn't really for you, and/or the time to carefully check out and vet long term rentals once you arrive and decide you want to stay.

That was my initial plan before writing this thread. The problem with rooming with someone else is that these roomates sites all want you to register for premium service to even message the people on the site advertising their room. I found one site where i can actually message them but you can only message premium members. Also the more i think about it, the more i dont really want a roomate, i rather have my own place without anyone potentially stealing behind my back. I rather just have my own peace and quiet as well. There are pros and cons of course with rooming but for now I think I rather have my own place.

Of course rooming with someone could be a good idea because not only is it much cheaper while getting a much bigger place, but also they could help settle you into the city and potentially meet more people etc. But i dont know, for now i think ill just go solo

Quote: MrV

OP: I think you're going at this all wrong.

Instead of renting an apartment and signing a long term lease, I think you should check out the "shared housing" and "housing sublet" sections on the Las Vegas craigslist.

Four hundred a month seems the norm, and that gives you the flexibility to cut and run if Las Vegas isn't really for you, and/or the time to carefully check out and vet long term rentals once you arrive and decide you want to stay.

I would never consider that unless I knew the people or had a great recommendation from someone I trusted. Being an AP means you are regularly going to have a lot of cash on you, get your own place so you are not relying on trusting roommates.

I would not choose that area for the apartment, I would avoid Boulder Highway area. check out the zipcodes 89014 (where Billryan is), 89074, 89123, and 89052. Those are generally a better part of Henderson (Green Valley) with lots of apartments.

Quote: DRich

I would never consider that unless I knew the people or had a great recommendation from someone I trusted. Being an AP means you are regularly going to have a lot of cash on you, get your own place so you are not relying on trusting roommates.

I would not choose that area for the apartment, I would avoid Boulder Highway area. check out the zipcodes 89014 (where Billryan is), 89074, 89123, and 89052. Those are generally a better part of Henderson (Green Valley) with lots of apartments.

Question for you and the rest of the board. Is it realistic at all to find a place in vegas under 600 that is relatively safe? All i care about is safety whether it's the huge amount of cash ill have on hand or my car. I drive a pretty nice car and last thing i need is someone trying to get into it in the middle of the night and me waking up to find a broken window, etc.