Wino
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July 4th, 2016 at 12:24:00 PM permalink
The other day, a player bet $1000 in their circle on a $500 max blackjack table. Dealer didn't see the purple underneath and started dealing. After the guy wins along with others, dealer notices the over table limit bet; calls Pit. Pit starts saying that I can't pay you the $1K only $500 because of the table max and that IN THE EVENT THAT HE LOST HE WOULD ONLY LOSE $500. Customer complains and Floor arrives and explains same policy as above but the $1000 eventually gets paid out with a warning that they won't pay out an overbet next time. I am suspicious that the Casino would't try to take the whole bet rather than only take the table max amount in thw event that the player lost. What is the policy in your local Casino regarding this? Have you encountered it before?
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July 4th, 2016 at 12:40:30 PM permalink
I have encountered it many times before, and I've never seen it resolved as it was on your table. People could only ever win or lose table max; the casino did not take a losing overbet, or pay one.
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July 4th, 2016 at 1:08:16 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I have encountered it many times before, and I've never seen it resolved as it was on your table. People could only ever win or lose table max; the casino did not take a losing overbet, or pay one.



I agree. The casino should not pay the overbet. If the player could get the extra $500 in the event of a win but ask that the $500 be returned to him in the event of a loss, then he'd be free rolling.
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July 4th, 2016 at 9:06:32 PM permalink
That clarifies things. Thanks.
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July 4th, 2016 at 11:56:07 PM permalink
My experience is the opposite. Once dealt the bet has been accepted.

When player's hand loses the dealer might still not notice the overbet and the entire wager ends up in the rack. Conversely, if the player's hand wins, the dealer can say, "Oh look! You overbet. It's house policy we only pay the table limit."

Now it's the house that's free rolling.

Over betting the table max is not rare by angle shooting players. They get by with it once in awhile *IF* they're big players. Try it too many times and get paid, they're 86'd.

If it's an honest mistake and you win, complain loudly enough long enough and you'll get paid.
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July 5th, 2016 at 5:52:28 AM permalink
Many times I have gone over the limit- a lot of time the dealer will call out pay or take table Max which means exactly what it says. If you win they pay max if you lose they take max. That being said I have also gone a hand or two playing over and gotten paid and had he opposite happened as well, I have had this happen the most in baccarat side bets when a count is high and I place two much on the side- one time I was paid for a decent amount on the panda nine 4K. All others that it happened it was pushed back
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July 5th, 2016 at 6:10:02 AM permalink
Can't remember being in an 'over table max' situation, which surprises me with the number of ridiculously low 'table max' limits I keep running into. $10/$200? Gimme a break!

Did sit down to play with a dealer I'm friendly with a few months ago. Lost several min bets of $15 in a row, then won one. She started to pay me $25, then paused. Then she pointed to the sign showing this was a $25 min table, paid me my $15, and shook her finger at me in a joking manner. It was rather funny at the time. That is usually a $15 table, and she's usually dealing at $15 tables ;-)

Unfortunately I went on playing at that table instead of moving to the next table over. I would have lost less....
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July 6th, 2016 at 6:45:07 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Many times I have gone over the limit- a lot of time the dealer will call out pay or take table Max which means exactly what it says. If you win they pay max if you lose they take max. That being said I have also gone a hand or two playing over and gotten paid and had he opposite happened as well, I have had this happen the most in baccarat side bets when a count is high and I place two much on the side- one time I was paid for a decent amount on the panda nine 4K. All others that it happened it was pushed back


Not looking to hijack this thread but I am intrigued. You were counting cards in Baccarat????

What sort of counting system would one use (similar to blackjack, levels 1, 2, 3 or more), and where can I find/read more information on this tactic?
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July 6th, 2016 at 7:00:18 AM permalink
There are websites out there . Check Elliot's site is the best advice I can give you
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July 8th, 2016 at 7:29:02 AM permalink
From the dealer's perspective, it's "easier" to take a bet than it is to pay out. > No need to verify correct amount to avoid overpayment, etc. That being said, there may be LEGAL reasons for not allowing an overpayment (gaming license permits maximum $X bets, etc) as well as house reasons (if dealer isn't noticing over bets, what ELSE isn't he noticing?).
I hope this helps. Replies are appreciated of course!

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