roger.cinada
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December 24th, 2015 at 10:27:09 AM permalink
Hello everyone, newbie here so sorry if that Q has been answered before.

I live in Greece and in the casino that I usually go, after every hand the discard pile is reentered to the box, automatically shuffled and then the dealer deals.

From what I understand the card counting system is useless to a situation like that.

So, in that case, what strategy should I follow and how can I manage my bets?
BJ4Profit
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December 24th, 2015 at 10:49:52 AM permalink
That is a continuous shuffling machine, and you'll see it often referred to as CSM. You are correct that no ordinary card counting system work against CSM. So if your goal is to lose as little as possible, play perfect basic strategy, and play at a full table betting table minimum every hand.

If you are looking for more advanced methods of beating the game, you can buy the brand of CSM the casino is using from manufacturer, disassemble it and exploit any card clumping the CSM may have during its shuffling procedure.
GWAE
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December 24th, 2015 at 10:50:19 AM permalink
Is this a 6 or 8 deck shoe? Is it placed into a shuffler or is it an CSM (continuous shuffler)?
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roger.cinada
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December 24th, 2015 at 11:17:10 AM permalink
Thanks for the tips
roger.cinada
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December 24th, 2015 at 11:18:13 AM permalink
Its 4 deck. All discarded cards are put into a shuffler
roger.cinada
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December 24th, 2015 at 11:24:23 AM permalink
To give you a full view its

4 Decks
Soft 17 Dealer stands
Double after split allowed
Surrender not allowed
Dealer no peek

I found in the site of wizardofodds a strategy that fits those criteria. Shoudl I only play that strategy?
If I play that strategy without cardcounting does it worth the time? Or stated better, what are my chances of winning?

Thank you again in advance
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December 24th, 2015 at 4:14:40 PM permalink
I get a souffle after every hand? For free? That sounds +EV to me. I'll just bet the min and enjoy my souffle.
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December 24th, 2015 at 8:30:43 PM permalink
You should bet $0 when you don't have an advantage and proportional to your advantage based on your bankroll when you do have the edge. I predict you will never lose money with my system.
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December 28th, 2015 at 9:44:48 PM permalink
That's the only game they offer? All CSM's? I hope you're playing for fun and not with any notions of ever turning a profit. I like the winning system mentioned where you walk right back out of that joint without playing a single hand. It might be time to find a new casino on the next Greek Island down the road.
Ibeatyouraces
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December 28th, 2015 at 10:19:48 PM permalink
Quote: Tarzan

That's the only game they offer? All CSM's? I hope you're playing for fun and not with any notions of ever turning a profit.


I disagree. Card counting isn't the only way to skin a blackjack game. And the way I'm thinking, a CSM is a lot better than a shoe game.
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