Donuts
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July 18th, 2015 at 2:22:26 PM permalink
Just moved to the Bay Area south of San Fran. I called/visited every casino in a 50 mile radius and it looks like almost everyone offers 6:5. The few that offer 3:2 use CSMs or require an ante each hand.

Am I missing something? I found a few carnival games with hole carding dealers but they weren't consistent enough to profit with the awful rules.
MathExtremist
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July 18th, 2015 at 2:57:07 PM permalink
Playing California blackjack in cardrooms is like playing California roulette in tribal casinos. Just not quite standard. If you want a standard game, head east to Cache Creek or Thunder Valley, or further east to Tahoe.

On the other hand, paying the $1 rent at AJs or Lucky Chances is probably cheaper than gas to Sacramento, so...
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Donuts
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July 18th, 2015 at 4:22:51 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Playing California blackjack in cardrooms is like playing California roulette in tribal casinos. Just not quite standard. If you want a standard game, head east to Cache Creek or Thunder Valley, or further east to Tahoe.

On the other hand, paying the $1 rent at AJs or Lucky Chances is probably cheaper than gas to Sacramento, so...



Lucky Chance's isn't even playable, it's all CSMs now. (Unless they swap them out. Was just there today)
AJs had one 8 deck shoe with a 1% ante which means you're basically stuck wonging TC4+ only.
MathExtremist
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July 18th, 2015 at 4:36:36 PM permalink
I'm sure you're far more current than I am; I haven't lived in the Bay Area for about a decade. I was there around the time LC was built and for a few years after.
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ThatDonGuy
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July 18th, 2015 at 6:12:57 PM permalink
If you want double-deck 3-2, Cache Creek has it, but (a) I think it's only in the high rollers area (they have single-deck 3-2 as well - they stress S17 in their ads, but not 3-2), and (b) the only way it's within 50 miles is if you're in Vallejo.

Have you been to Graton?
Amlee
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July 18th, 2015 at 7:16:47 PM permalink
Cache Creek is all 3:2 and they are also S17. It's the best place in the area. Graton is a gigantic ripoff. Mostly CSMs. Would never set foot in there. Cache Creek is a solid 1h30m from SF though.

Reno is 3 hours away.
nemesiscc16
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July 25th, 2015 at 11:45:56 AM permalink
Lucky Chances Is not playable. I was there a week ago and besides the 1$ ante, its all asm's. There's zero point in playing there unless you want to lose. I live in sf and it does seem that cache creek is the best. according to their web site they have single, double, and shoe games. Havent been to Graton but their website made no mention of # of decks. Does anyone know for certain is Graton is all ASM's?
Amlee
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July 27th, 2015 at 9:39:27 AM permalink
Nemesiscc16,

I might head up to Graton at some point just to see how bad it is. I've heard nothing but negative reviews. My understanding is that the games that don't have CSM have crummy rules.

There was so much hype around that place and they spent so much money building it, but it's really just a place for your "wanna have a good time" gambler, not counters or APs. I'll let everyone know if I trip it up there again, but I know it'll just tick me off, so maybe it won't be soon. Haha.
neverquitwhenup
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July 27th, 2015 at 9:54:43 AM permalink
Not true at all, they all are different, to you even play..
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August 30th, 2015 at 11:05:13 AM permalink
Quote: Donuts

Just moved to the Bay Area south of San Fran. I called/visited every casino in a 50 mile radius and it looks like almost everyone offers 6:5. The few that offer 3:2 use CSMs or require an ante each hand.

Am I missing something? I found a few carnival games with hole carding dealers but they weren't consistent enough to profit with the awful rules.



There is River Rock in Geyserville. 6D, 3:2. $5 - $500. The DD is 3:2 with a $15 min. Cache Creek is pretty good too. PM me for more information.
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