racquet
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July 14th, 2015 at 5:27:33 PM permalink
Do the figures reported on my player's card on a casino's website for wins or losses on table games (specifically blackjack) translate into a W2-G at the end of the year?

If so, and the casino sends that info to the IRS, is the casino required to also send you a W2-G, either on paper or electronically?

The figures I see on a casino site where I play with a player's card do not come close to accurately representing my true activity - win/loss. But it never occurred to me that this record could have any bearing on my taxes, because I have never received a W2-G, whereas for everything else in the real world I get W2s or 1099s. But a discussion in another thread that seemed to mix table games and slots together in discussing this makes me wonder. Even though I have never received a W2-G, is a friendly letter from the IRS likely to come my way because a casino sent them a W2-G for me back in 2009?

For blackjack, the reporting cannot possibly be accurate, since it depends on random opportunities to observe the flow of cash and chips at the table.
MaxPen
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July 14th, 2015 at 5:47:15 PM permalink
No for normal play. Some side bets will generate a W2-G that will be issued upon payment.
MissEye
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July 14th, 2015 at 6:15:43 PM permalink
I've only seen taxables on single wins over $1200 and they give you your tax form when they pay you. You can use your report from your players card of losses to offset any taxable wins.
TwoFeathersATL
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July 14th, 2015 at 7:25:15 PM permalink
Quote: MissEye

I've only seen taxables on single wins over $1200 and they give you your tax form when they pay you. You can use your report from your players card of losses to offset any taxable wins.


The OP said "Blackjack only". MissEye mentions 'single wins over $1200'.
Has anyone actually seen tax forms/procedures at a BJ table?
I play at low limit tables, 10-15 min. I bet table max a lot, win some lose some.
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MathExtremist
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July 14th, 2015 at 8:25:04 PM permalink
W-2G on table games is only $600 or more *and* 300x the wager. A 300x win is impossible in standard blackjack, craps, roulette, etc. Only with side bets like Fire Bet or progressive poker/bj meters.

To the OP's point, if you think you're going to get a W-2G from slots, keep all records of your play on everything, session-by-session, so you'll be able to confirm losses to deduct from that reported gain. If you only ever play tables, you should (almost) never get a W-2G. Whether you choose to keep records and/or personally report your wins to the IRS in that case, well, that's a different issue.
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MaxPen
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July 14th, 2015 at 8:38:47 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

W-2G on table games is only $600 or more *and* 300x the wager. A 300x win is impossible in standard blackjack, craps, roulette, etc. Only with side bets like Fire Bet or progressive poker/bj meters.

To the OP's point, if you think you're going to get a W-2G from slots, keep all records of your play on everything, session-by-session, so you'll be able to confirm losses to deduct from that reported gain. If you only ever play tables, you should (almost) never get a W-2G. Whether you choose to keep records and/or personally report your wins to the IRS in that case, well, that's a different issue.


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kewlj
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July 14th, 2015 at 8:44:00 PM permalink
Ok, what is this taxes or texas that is being discussed?

(Just kidding Sammy, if you are reading)
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July 14th, 2015 at 11:21:42 PM permalink
Quote: MissEye

I've only seen taxables on single wins over $1200 and they give you your tax form when they pay you. You can use your report from your players card of losses to offset any taxable wins.

Drawings, tournaments and some promotions are lower, $600 and you get a 1099. Apparently it can be an accumulative $600 over the year.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 14th, 2015 at 11:44:05 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Drawings, tournaments and some promotions are lower, $600 and you get a 1099. Apparently it can be an accumulative $600 over the year.



Just $600? Good to know.
RS
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July 15th, 2015 at 12:06:26 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Drawings, tournaments and some promotions are lower, $600 and you get a 1099. Apparently it can be an accumulative $600 over the year.



What about drawings where you win cash? I've won several, and never got any paperwork. Or maybe I did get paperwork but I forgot / lost them? How much cash you gotta win to get any kinda paperwork?
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