Amlee
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February 24th, 2015 at 7:49:29 AM permalink
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rdw4potus
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February 24th, 2015 at 9:29:18 AM permalink
I didn't think Gun Lake was bad. And Firekeepers is very nice. 6d with a .6% or so HE would be as bad as I'd expect at either place, with plenty of $10 games ($5 likely). Not sure about hand shuffling or CSM. But, CSM is good for the basic strategy player.
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Amlee
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February 24th, 2015 at 9:47:08 AM permalink
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teddys
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February 24th, 2015 at 11:07:23 AM permalink
Firekeepers had a real nice 2D game in high limit for a while. Nice casino, too.
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Romes
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February 24th, 2015 at 11:15:02 AM permalink
Quote: Amlee

Thanks for this info. CSM would work for BS, but I'd be doing a bit more than that. ;)

Need to figure out if it's hand-shuffle or not. I wonder if it's too obvious to call them and ask. Ha!


Not at all. I can't tell you how many times I've called places and asked them about their rules in a way made me just sound like another ploppy. It's the same thing as if you're at a table... Just call up and be like:

(Implied ploppy voice/excitement/etc)

"Hey you guys gotz blackjack, right?"
"Yes, sir."
"Do you got $5 and $10 tables?"
"Yes, sir. We do."
"Are they on those damn automatic things? I lose my ass on those every time I play them. I think they're rigged!"
"We have regular shoe games too, sir."
"And those still be $10??"
"Yes, sir."

*click*

If you're really paranoid, call from a number that's not associated to you (in case you think they have caller id, then run that through their rewards system to see if it matches a player, etc).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
Amlee
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Hubomba
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February 24th, 2015 at 7:25:27 PM permalink
Soaring Eagle has decent shoe games with low stakes. You should be able to find a $5-$15 table ( that's what I assume your preferred stakes are from your post ) that is non-CSM and their deck pen is ok from what I have seen if that matters to you. Although Mt. Pleasant might be a bit of trek from Grand Rapids.

Their good tables are intermixed with their sucker tables to just be mindful before sitting down. Stay away from their pitch games, they are all 6:5.
Amlee
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February 27th, 2015 at 9:10:53 AM permalink
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Romes
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February 27th, 2015 at 11:42:01 AM permalink
Quote: Amlee

...I gotta chill out for a bit, as I really need to build a sufficient bankroll. But clearly, the power of counting is there. There is skill in this sort of play. But it's elusive and you can dive fast. Everyone around me was getting their ass handed to them. And eventually, so did I. ;)

This tricky game.


Sounds like at least you might be aware of your problem? You can count all you want, be really good at it, etc... but when you jump limits like that on a bankroll that no doubt can't handle it, you're skyrocketing your RoR and you will go bust. Do you normally jump limits like that? It's a really rare thing to jump like that for most counters, as once you define a unit, spread, and bankroll... it gets ruined by jumping limits without first resizing your bankroll (i.e. you only jump limits after big swings in your bankroll in which you re-define your spread and then start playing other limits).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
Amlee
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February 27th, 2015 at 1:19:51 PM permalink
Romes,

Great advice, which I definitely take to heart. I really don't jump limits. Just wanted to try it out yesterday. Definitely understand the RoR issues.

I am a $10 guy, but wanted to play the $25 action. Lesson learned. :)

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