Dealer Mistakes

I was playing blackjack not long ago. I was sitting mid-table and I got a blackjack and was paid. Then, when the dealer had played out all the hands to my left she then played her own hand to a bust. As I recall there were two hands to my left that had stood and got paid. And then I noticed that my blackjack hand was still face-up on the layout. The dealer had not collected my hand after paying me 3:2 as is procedure. So, as the dealer comes to my hand she pays me even money and continues to pay the remaining hands to my right. I instinctively did not say anything to the dealer as she payed me even money. She was on autopilot. If I had said, "Hey, blackjack pays 3:2" she might have realized that she already paid me, or called over the pit boss to help figure it out.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that noticed this dealer error. She was a break-in. Blackjack paid 5:2!

We can go back and forth on this ... is you a cheat? Is "normal" morality suspended or relaxed in a casino because they are trying to get your money or trying to get your money in a deceptive manner? Was you drinkin'? Were you clever in not trying to get 6:2 payoff? Is there anyone on the forum who knows when and where this happened and will notify the casino to roll the tape? Do dealer mistakes that cause you to have losses that you don't notice sort of balance out your crafty silence?

Quote: Greasyjohn

I was playing blackjack not long ago. I was sitting mid-table and I got a blackjack and was paid. Then, when the dealer had played out all the hands to my left she then played her own hand to a bust. As I recall there were two hands to my left that had stood and got paid. And then I noticed that my blackjack hand was still face-up on the layout. The dealer had not collected my hand after paying me 3:2 as is procedure. So, as the dealer comes to my hand she pays me even money and continues to pay the remaining hands to my right. I instinctively did not say anything to the dealer as she payed me even money. She was on autopilot. If I had said, "Hey, blackjack pays 3:2" she might have realized that she already paid me, or called over the pit boss to help figure it out.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that noticed this dealer error. She was a break-in. Blackjack paid 5:2!

I posted a similar experience somewhere here. I was at third base and the dealer paid me twice at 3 to 2. Silly me attempted to correct her and got snapped at for telling her how to do her job.

It's not our job to train, correct or look out for dealers. I don't necessarily want what's not mine so I try to meet them half way. I leave the overpayment or paid push up a little longer to give the dealer a chance to see it. After that it's mine.

I had a dealer last week who had A,A and said 2 or 12. She then drew a 10, called 22 for the break and reached into the tray. A guy who had just joined my table looked at me and told me to "shut my f-ing mouth". That's exactly what I was going to do until he opened his. I told the dealer, I won and he lost. I was happy and he was anything but. Jerk.

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It's not our job to train, correct or look out for dealers. I don't necessarily want what's not mine so I try to meet them half way. I leave the overpayment or paid push up a little longer to give the dealer a chance to see it. After that it's mine.

I do the same thing. Some people will swoop it up real fast, though. I don't like doing that because if she finds the error relatively quickly, I don't want to be seen as a shot-taker. But, if I leave it up for a few seconds then take it in (like I would with a normal winning wager), and somehow they later find out I was paid improperly, it looks like I just wasn't paying attention and I'm not a shot taker.


I think it's OK to take the money. But, if they ask for it back, I'll give it back. If it's immediate (ie: still out there), no questions asked or whatever, go ahead and take it. If it's a round or more later and a boss comes over (meaning surveillance caught it and called down), I'm not just gonna be like, "Yup you're right here you go", because I'll look like a shot-taker (because I "knew" what happened). I'd probably be a little more hesitant in giving it back (yes I will give it back), but ask a few questions about it, like "Are you sure?" or "I thought I won what do you mean?" so it looks like I just made a mistake and thought I really won.


I had a dealer once, I forget the exact scenario, but it was something like the following: The third base player would always ask for his double-downs to be dealt face-down. If he won his double-down, the dealer would go on auto-pilot and pay everyone as if she had busted. If he didn't win the double-down, she would take/pay accordingly. If there was some rainbow bet (multiple colors) on third-base, dealer would have to break down the bet and pay it when he won.....but if he did win on those rainbow bets, she'd auto-pilot and pay everyone as if she busted.


Funny things I've seen dealers do:

- 7 up, Ten under, hit it, catch a 5 and "bust" paying the whole table (not supposed to hit a hard 17).
- Soft 17, (on a hit soft-17 table), dealer hits it, catches a 5 or higher, and "busts", pays the table.
- One dealer would treat doubled-down Aces as 1, 9, or 10. So if you had A5 (16), doubled and caught a 6 for 12, she'd think it was 21 (since 5+6 is 11 and with the ace it can look like a total of 21). Same with hands like A66 (treating Ace as 9....somehow). It went on for quite a while and I don't remember it ever stopping. I had to leave, though. :(
- Ace up, insurance open, insurance closed. Checks for Ten under. No ten. Everyone plays out their hand. Flips the hole card, there's a Ten. Hits it, get's a 7. Hits it again with like a 5 or 6, and "busts". Pay the whole table. W.T.F.?
- Insured a blackjack for less. Dealer has blackjack. Dealer has no idea how to pay out the hand. Take the insurance and pay 3:2 on the BJ? Take the BJ and pay insurance? Return the insurance and push the BJ? And this casino was by no means a break-in house, which is the sad part. But to the dealer's credit, I bet that's the first time she's ever had a player insure a blackjack for less and her have a BJ on the same hand.
- Ten up. Checks for blackjack. Dealer has a face of "Oh shit I fucked up." Turns the ten sideways, "Insurance open". Everyone's confused. I put out my insurance $$$ since I'm 99% sure he has a BJ. Insurance closed. Dealer checks again, Ace underneath. Takes everyone's bets and pays my insurance. Woot!
- I've had dealers come from Spanish 21 (or maybe Super Fun 21?) to regular BJ. Dealer allowed Spanish rules, like redoubling, super-late surrender, and some other weird stuff (like 777 pays 2:1 or some shit?). That was kinda fun.

Play the game long enough (or maybe not even that long) and you'll see everything.

Quote: FleaStiff

We can go back and forth on this ... is you a cheat? Is "normal" morality suspended or relaxed in a casino because they are trying to get your money or trying to get your money in a deceptive manner? Was you drinkin'? Were you clever in not trying to get 6:2 payoff? Is there anyone on the forum who knows when and where this happened and will notify the casino to roll the tape? Do dealer mistakes that cause you to have losses that you don't notice sort of balance out your crafty silence?

As the dealer paid the hands to my left and came to me that's when I realized that my blackjack was still on the felt. She paid me even-money and continued to pay the hands to my right. It all happened pretty quickly. I do remember thinking that her paying me even-money must have looked odd to anyone that noticed. I can't see myself asking for the extra 50% on the blackjack I was already paid on. I just remember thinking about all this as the weird scene played out.

I think the casino industry is a business that feeds on peoples' vices. The marketing departments' purpose is to take as much money from you as they can while making you feel comfortable. There are good people that work in the industry, but I wouldn't feel much satisfaction or sense of purpose being one of them. So if a casino pays me on a bet when they shouldn't, it doesn't really bother me to keep it. Christmas just came early.

Quote: RS

I do the same thing. Some people will swoop it up real fast, though. I don't like doing that because if she finds the error relatively quickly, I don't want to be seen as a shot-taker. But, if I leave it up for a few seconds then take it in (like I would with a normal winning wager), and somehow they later find out I was paid improperly, it looks like I just wasn't paying attention and I'm not a shot taker.


I think it's OK to take the money. But, if they ask for it back, I'll give it back. If it's immediate (ie: still out there), no questions asked or whatever, go ahead and take it. If it's a round or more later and a boss comes over (meaning surveillance caught it and called down), I'm not just gonna be like, "Yup you're right here you go", because I'll look like a shot-taker (because I "knew" what happened). I'd probably be a little more hesitant in giving it back (yes I will give it back), but ask a few questions about it, like "Are you sure?" or "I thought I won what do you mean?" so it looks like I just made a mistake and thought I really won.


I had a dealer once, I forget the exact scenario, but it was something like the following: The third base player would always ask for his double-downs to be dealt face-down. If he won his double-down, the dealer would go on auto-pilot and pay everyone as if she had busted. If he didn't win the double-down, she would take/pay accordingly. If there was some rainbow bet (multiple colors) on third-base, dealer would have to break down the bet and pay it when he won.....but if he did win on those rainbow bets, she'd auto-pilot and pay everyone as if she busted.


Funny things I've seen dealers do:

- 7 up, Ten under, hit it, catch a 5 and "bust" paying the whole table (not supposed to hit a hard 17).
- Soft 17, (on a hit soft-17 table), dealer hits it, catches a 5 or higher, and "busts", pays the table.
- One dealer would treat doubled-down Aces as 1, 9, or 10. So if you had A5 (16), doubled and caught a 6 for 12, she'd think it was 21 (since 5+6 is 11 and with the ace it can look like a total of 21). Same with hands like A66 (treating Ace as 9....somehow). It went on for quite a while and I don't remember it ever stopping. I had to leave, though. :(
- Ace up, insurance open, insurance closed. Checks for Ten under. No ten. Everyone plays out their hand. Flips the hole card, there's a Ten. Hits it, get's a 7. Hits it again with like a 5 or 6, and "busts". Pay the whole table. W.T.F.?
- Insured a blackjack for less. Dealer has blackjack. Dealer has no idea how to pay out the hand. Take the insurance and pay 3:2 on the BJ? Take the BJ and pay insurance? Return the insurance and push the BJ? And this casino was by no means a break-in house, which is the sad part. But to the dealer's credit, I bet that's the first time she's ever had a player insure a blackjack for less and her have a BJ on the same hand.
- Ten up. Checks for blackjack. Dealer has a face of "Oh shit I fucked up." Turns the ten sideways, "Insurance open". Everyone's confused. I put out my insurance $$$ since I'm 99% sure he has a BJ. Insurance closed. Dealer checks again, Ace underneath. Takes everyone's bets and pays my insurance. Woot!
- I've had dealers come from Spanish 21 (or maybe Super Fun 21?) to regular BJ. Dealer allowed Spanish rules, like redoubling, super-late surrender, and some other weird stuff (like 777 pays 2:1 or some shit?). That was kinda fun.

Play the game long enough (or maybe not even that long) and you'll see everything.

RS, I'm curious, why were you 99% sure that the dealer had a blackjack when you took insurance?

Quote: Greasyjohn

RS, I'm curious, why were you 99% sure that the dealer had a blackjack when you took insurance?

Why would dealer offer insurance with a 10 up?

Quote: RS

- Ten up. Checks for blackjack. Dealer has a face of "Oh shit I fucked up." Turns the ten sideways, "Insurance open". Everyone's confused. I put out my insurance $$$ since I'm 99% sure he has a BJ. Insurance closed. Dealer checks again, Ace underneath. Takes everyone's bets and pays my insurance. Woot!

Quote: Greasyjohn

RS, I'm curious, why were you 99% sure that the dealer had a blackjack when you took insurance?

Greasyjohn, I see at least one - and possibly 3 - "dealer tells" there.

I'm guessing that this table used a mirror type device (rather than a light), and it was a break-in dealer.

Quote: wudged

Why would dealer offer insurance with a 10 up?

I gathered it was a mistake to offer insurance but the dealer did anyway.

Quote: Dieter

Greasyjohn, I see at least one - and possibly 3 - "dealer tells" there.

I'm guessing that this table used a mirror type device (rather than a light), and it was a break-in dealer.

There's no way that I could tell that the dealer knew what her down card was though. Oh, are you suggesting the dealer looked first, after she turned the 10 sideways, to offer insurance? RS didn't say that. And what difference would a mirror make from a light?

Quote: Greasyjohn

And what difference would a mirror make from a light?

Really?
With a mirror, only the dealer sees the blackjack. With a light, everyone would know it.

Quote: Greasyjohn

I gathered it was a mistake to offer insurance but the dealer did anyway.

Yea, that was my point. The dealer was already confused and knew it was a blackjack, so decided to offer insurance.

It was more rhetorical - I guess I should have put "because" instead of "why"

This isn't really a mistake, more of outright dealer cheating but is still a good story. In Louisiana at an Indian casino a dealer who my friend and I had just been playing with came and sat down to play with us (already a huge red flag that she is allowed to play where she works). One hand, the current dealer has an ace up and checks for blackjack first and then asks "insurance?" as she rotates her head around the table to make eye contact with everyone, she does a subtle little nod to the other dealer who is now playing with us. The dealer who is playing with us takes insurance immediately. My friend, without skipping a beat takes insurance as well. The count was negative so I figured he saw the hole card and I decided to take insurance as well. A guy at the table is giving everyone crap because insurance is clearly a sucker bet. The dealer who is playing asks to take insurance for him! Not so subtle!! Of course the dealer had blackjack and proceeded to do this same maneuver a couple more times before the session ended, it was great. The best part was both dealers clearly knew that we knew they were cheating and didn't stop doing it. I remember looking up the player edge if you had perfect insurance information, I think it was around 3%.

Quote: RS

- Ten up. Checks for blackjack. Dealer has a face of "Oh shit I fucked up." Turns the ten sideways, "Insurance open". Everyone's confused. I put out my insurance $$$ since I'm 99% sure he has a BJ. Insurance closed. Dealer checks again, Ace underneath. Takes everyone's bets and pays my insurance. Woot!

Nowhere in RS' quote does it show where the dealer looked through the prism or placed the cards sideways into the reader before offering insurance. She placed it in there wrong at first but that would not read for an ace. It would only tell her if she had a 10-value or non-10-value.

"Ten up. Checks for blackjack."

Nobody saw the hole card. Only the dealer.....what's so confusing?

Quote: Greasyjohn

Quote: RS

- Ten up. Checks for blackjack. Dealer has a face of "Oh shit I fucked up." Turns the ten sideways, "Insurance open". Everyone's confused. I put out my insurance $$$ since I'm 99% sure he has a BJ. Insurance closed. Dealer checks again, Ace underneath. Takes everyone's bets and pays my insurance. Woot!

Nowhere in RS' quote does it show where the dealer looked through the prism or placed the cards sideways into the reader before offering insurance. She placed it in there wrong at first but that would not read for an ace. It would only tell her if she had a 10-value or non-10-value.

Here's how I read it. The dealer has a ten up.

1) He checked for blackjack the proper way (pulling the card straight back). He saw the ace and knew he had the blackjack.

2) At this point, he got his wires crossed and thought he was supposed to offer insurance on a ten-card. Hence the face he made.

3) He offered insurance. RS decided that since the dealer made that face, the dealer already knows he has a blackjack. RS took the insurance.

4) No idea about the turning the card sideways. He wouldn't see anything if he checked the card sideways, but remember he already checked the card the right way earlier, and he already knows the down card is in fact an ace.

Quote: Greasyjohn

There's no way that I could tell that the dealer knew what her down card was though. Oh, are you suggesting the dealer looked first, after she turned the 10 sideways, to offer insurance? RS didn't say that. And what difference would a mirror make from a light?

Let me see if I can go through the sequence of events, as I understand them.

Quote: RS

- Ten up. Checks for blackjack. Dealer has a face of "Oh shit I fucked up." Turns the ten sideways, "Insurance open". Everyone's confused. I put out my insurance $$$ since I'm 99% sure he has a BJ. Insurance closed. Dealer checks again, Ace underneath. Takes everyone's bets and pays my insurance. Woot!

- Dealer deals the round as normal. Dealer shows a 10.
- Dealer checks for blackjack.
- Dealer sees that dealer has a blackjack.

What should have happened at this point:

- Dealer opens hole card, settles the bets, sweeps the cards away.

What I think did happen at this point:
- Dealer gets confused, realizes he didn't offer insurance, thinks he was supposed to. (thinking he was supposed to offer insurance is incorrect)
- Turns cards sideways (because that's what you do when you offer insurance) (this is an incorrect move with a 10/face showing)
- Offers insurance (incorrectly)
- Checks for blackjack again (doesn't matter if this is correct or incorrect, you can check as often as you want and it doesn't change things)
- Finds blackjack (again)
- Settles the bets (including the incorrectly accepted insurance bet)
- Sweeps the cards away


I would mark the "I screwed up" face, combined with the turn of the cards and offering of insurance as tells.

As was previously pointed out, a light type device - as opposed to a prism/mirror - shows everyone that the hole card either is or is not marked. The prism/mirror devices only allow the dealer to see the mark on the corner of the hole card.

Quote: Greasyjohn

Nowhere in RS' quote does it show where the dealer looked through the prism or placed the cards sideways into the reader before offering insurance. She placed it in there wrong at first but that would not read for an ace. It would only tell her if she had a 10-value or non-10-value.

The cards go into the reader sideways (rotated) to check for a 10, with most card marking schemes I've seen.

The cards go into the reader lengthwise (unrotated) to check for an Ace, with most card marking schemes I've seen.

Yes. What dieter said.

It was a prism, not a red light green light thing.

I had a bad one. Me and one other player to my left at a pitch game. He was playing 2 hands. The dealer was pitching 4 cards to him but not doing what they normally do and place his second hand under his bet, so that he must act on the first bet before seeing those cards. One time she pitched his 4 cards and the way they landed he paired them up the wrong way. They were face down and he just got mixed up as to which 2 cards went together in each hand, due to the way they landed. I had a blackjack and the dealer had turned a 9. When the player (supposedly) mixed up his cards they declared the hand dead. This was after I had turned my AJ face up and her 9 was face up. No payout for me. I argued...with my point being that no matter WHAT the dealer had under...I was a winner. They said him mis-handling his cards means the hand is dead. That seems ridiculous. That means if the casino wanted to screw you then any time you hit a blackjack on a big bet that player could be a plant to intentionally void the hand. I don't think any place does that....but the point is another player should not be able to wipe out my blackjack. Because that other player COULD be doing it for not so honest reasons. Maybe he is their cooler/shill and maybe he just doesn't like me. Not to mention she wasn't dealing his cards properly. After the pit boss came over and still wouldn't pay me I colored up and walked to the casino next door. I won't reveal which casino did this....but will say the place I walked to was the GoldStrike in Tunica!

Quote: RS

I do the same thing. Some people will swoop it up real fast, though. I don't like doing that because if she finds the error relatively quickly, I don't want to be seen as a shot-taker. But, if I leave it up for a few seconds then take it in (like I would with a normal winning wager), and somehow they later find out I was paid improperly, it looks like I just wasn't paying attention and I'm not a shot taker.


I think it's OK to take the money. But, if they ask for it back, I'll give it back. If it's immediate (ie: still out there), no questions asked or whatever, go ahead and take it. If it's a round or more later and a boss comes over (meaning surveillance caught it and called down), I'm not just gonna be like, "Yup you're right here you go", because I'll look like a shot-taker (because I "knew" what happened). I'd probably be a little more hesitant in giving it back (yes I will give it back), but ask a few questions about it, like "Are you sure?" or "I thought I won what do you mean?" so it looks like I just made a mistake and thought I really won.


I had a dealer once, I forget the exact scenario, but it was something like the following: The third base player would always ask for his double-downs to be dealt face-down. If he won his double-down, the dealer would go on auto-pilot and pay everyone as if she had busted. If he didn't win the double-down, she would take/pay accordingly. If there was some rainbow bet (multiple colors) on third-base, dealer would have to break down the bet and pay it when he won.....but if he did win on those rainbow bets, she'd auto-pilot and pay everyone as if she busted.


Funny things I've seen dealers do:

- 7 up, Ten under, hit it, catch a 5 and "bust" paying the whole table (not supposed to hit a hard 17).
- Soft 17, (on a hit soft-17 table), dealer hits it, catches a 5 or higher, and "busts", pays the table.
- One dealer would treat doubled-down Aces as 1, 9, or 10. So if you had A5 (16), doubled and caught a 6 for 12, she'd think it was 21 (since 5+6 is 11 and with the ace it can look like a total of 21). Same with hands like A66 (treating Ace as 9....somehow). It went on for quite a while and I don't remember it ever stopping. I had to leave, though. :(
- Ace up, insurance open, insurance closed. Checks for Ten under. No ten. Everyone plays out their hand. Flips the hole card, there's a Ten. Hits it, get's a 7. Hits it again with like a 5 or 6, and "busts". Pay the whole table. W.T.F.?
- Insured a blackjack for less. Dealer has blackjack. Dealer has no idea how to pay out the hand. Take the insurance and pay 3:2 on the BJ? Take the BJ and pay insurance? Return the insurance and push the BJ? And this casino was by no means a break-in house, which is the sad part. But to the dealer's credit, I bet that's the first time she's ever had a player insure a blackjack for less and her have a BJ on the same hand.
- Ten up. Checks for blackjack. Dealer has a face of "Oh shit I fucked up." Turns the ten sideways, "Insurance open". Everyone's confused. I put out my insurance $$$ since I'm 99% sure he has a BJ. Insurance closed. Dealer checks again, Ace underneath. Takes everyone's bets and pays my insurance. Woot!
- I've had dealers come from Spanish 21 (or maybe Super Fun 21?) to regular BJ. Dealer allowed Spanish rules, like redoubling, super-late surrender, and some other weird stuff (like 777 pays 2:1 or some shit?). That was kinda fun.

Play the game long enough (or maybe not even that long) and you'll see everything.

RS, my question is: When the dealer checked for blackjack, I'm assuming that he placed the 10-up into the reader horizontally, ike you would with an ace up. The dearler didn't peek under the 10 like they did in the days before readers and see the hole card, right? So, if the the dealer put the 10-up into the reader wrong (which wouldn't give him knowledge that the hole card is an ace), and then you say he turned the 10 sideways, did the dealer place the sideways 10 into the reader and look at it before saying, "insurance open"? (Obviously at this point the dealer is rattled and offering insurance with a ten up which is a mistake.) I'm just wondering how you were 99% sure the hole card was an ace? That's all I was curious about.

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I had a bad one. Me and one other player to my left at a pitch game. He was playing 2 hands. The dealer was pitching 4 cards to him but not doing what they normally do and place his second hand under his bet, so that he must act on the first bet before seeing those cards. One time she pitched his 4 cards and the way they landed he paired them up the wrong way. They were face down and he just got mixed up as to which 2 cards went together in each hand, due to the way they landed. I had a blackjack and the dealer had turned a 9. When the player (supposedly) mixed up his cards they declared the hand dead. This was after I had turned my AJ face up and her 9 was face up. No payout for me. I argued...with my point being that no matter WHAT the dealer had under...I was a winner. They said him mis-handling his cards means the hand is dead. That seems ridiculous. That means if the casino wanted to screw you then any time you hit a blackjack on a big bet that player could be a plant to intentionally void the hand. I don't think any place does that....but the point is another player should not be able to wipe out my blackjack. Because that other player COULD be doing it for not so honest reasons. Maybe he is their cooler/shill and maybe he just doesn't like me. Not to mention she wasn't dealing his cards properly. After the pit boss came over and still wouldn't pay me I colored up and walked to the casino next door. I won't reveal which casino did this....but will say the place I walked to was the GoldStrike in Tunica!

That would have pissed me off big time and is extremely poor customer service.

Quote: pelotari

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Quote: Greasyjohn

RS, my question is: When the dealer checked for blackjack, I'm assuming that he placed the 10-up into the reader vertically, like you would with an ace up. The dearler didn't peek under the 10 like they did in the days before readers and see the hole card, right? So, if the the dealer put the 10-up into the reader wrong (which wouldn't give him knowledge that the hole card is an ace), and then you say he turned the 10 sideways, did the dealer place the sideways 10 into the reader and look at it before saying, "insurance open"? (Obviously at this point the dealer is rattled and offering insurance with a ten up which is a mistake.) I'm just wondering how you were 99% sure the hole card was an ace? That's all I was curious about.

It was a card-reader or whatever. I believe it's a "mirrored prism" or some sh*t like that.

The proper way to check for an Ace (when there's a 10-up) is to slide the card into the mirror-prism-thing, without doing a 90 degree turn. That is what the dealer did. Everything was proper procedure....until he saw he had a BJ (Ace in the hole).

Thinking about it now, I can't remember what happened. The card was turned sideways (at least I'm pretty sure it was) and insurance was offered. I don't remember specifically what happened after I took the insurance. ie: If he put it in sideways, normal-ways, etc. Perhaps I'm a bit fuzzy on the specifics of the situation, but I do know for certain he checked for BJ with a 10-up, had some sort of tell (oh sh*t I have a BJ and I didn't offer insurance), I insured, and won.

Not exactly a "dealer error", but I thought it was hilarious.

As some know, I'm a dealer. During our breaks, we usually either talk sh*t on degenerate gamblers (the ones who keep buying in for $20, or $13, or $47, etc.), retarded players who have no idea what they're doing, stupid sh** the supervisors do, how well or poorly someone tipped us (not that I really care how much we get tipped, but they're fun to talk about nonetheless), or whatever else normal people talk about (my dog sh** on the stairs this morning, WTF....or today's my friday....or what i did on the weekend....etc.).

Occasionally, we'll get a player who is just absolutely awful at playing the game. I mean, people who bet $5.50 on bacarrat (meaning the vig is $0.50, instead of betting $5.00 when the vig is $0.25)....to people who constantly play the don't-pass on the come out roll then make a PUT bet on the pass-line after a point is established (even if it's a 4 or 10)....to people who double down every hand in BJ....or even regular degenerates who get pissed off when they lose (you know that's rent money they're losing...that's not extra/entertainment money).


Anyway, one day in the break room, we're all exchanging stories, but it's the usual. This one dealer tells us about how bad this one player is at blackjack. It isn't verbatim, but is something like, "This guy is F**** crazy. Betting a couple hundred a hand, He's splitting 10's against just about everything. Lots of times he's doubling down a 7 or 8 against my high card. Sometimes he's hitting 15's or 16's against my bust cards. He's even doubled down his 17 against my ten, FOR LESS...what an idiot!" Naturally, I ask how the player is doing (winning or losing). Dealer said he's been winning a lot of $$$ and regularly tipping $10-25 per hand and the dealer had dropped a bunch of money ("dropping money" means making tokes, or tips).

I thought it was hilarious. It really was. The dealer was describing a hole-card play in action, right under her nose.

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