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August 29th, 2014 at 12:14:13 PM permalink
So I am down here with some family and, considering I no longer have a host at Revel and never had a host at Showboat, I am staying with family through their host at SB.

I am under no obligation to play anywhere at all this weekend and, who knows, I might not…….but I probably will.

I will bid both SB and the Big R a farewell and see if I can gather any information/gossip about the future of each.

If I play, I will sprinkle in a trip report.

Wishing you al positive variance!!!
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August 29th, 2014 at 12:24:49 PM permalink
So you had no free room at Revel?
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August 29th, 2014 at 12:40:08 PM permalink
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August 29th, 2014 at 12:45:54 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

So you had no free room at Revel?




Nope - no host means no room.
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August 29th, 2014 at 12:46:15 PM permalink
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Positive variance to you AoS!




Thanks Romes.




Anyone else in AC this weekend?
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August 29th, 2014 at 12:47:30 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Thanks Romes.

Anyone else in AC this weekend?



maybe Mario?
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August 29th, 2014 at 1:27:21 PM permalink
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maybe Mario?




That went over my head - who is Mario?
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August 29th, 2014 at 1:29:51 PM permalink
Said my Final fairwell to both last week. I actually felt bad at Showboat and for the employees. Their only crime is being part of a company that has too much exposure in AC. But for CZR closing it is the right decision and I dont know if anyone else without an established player base could make a go of it either.

Have fun Ace!
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August 29th, 2014 at 1:39:02 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Said my Final fairwell to both last week. I actually felt bad at Showboat and for the employees. Their only crime is being part of a company that has too much exposure in AC. But for CZR closing it is the right decision and I dont know if anyone else without an established player base could make a go of it either.

Have fun Ace!



So did I. I had to get one last look at Showboat's single deck 6 to 5 blackjack shuffled after every hand. It's actually dealt from an ASM.

On Monday morning at 8AM Ultra Lounge and both adjacent blackjack pits at Revel were closed.
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August 29th, 2014 at 1:51:47 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

On Monday morning at 8AM Ultra Lounge and both adjacent blackjack pits at Revel were closed.




It's the end of an era that never truly began
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August 29th, 2014 at 1:52:49 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

So I am down here with some family and, considering I no longer have a host at Revel and never had a host at Showboat, I am staying with family through their host at SB.

I am under no obligation to play anywhere at all this weekend and, who knows, I might not…….but I probably will.

I will bid both SB and the Big R a farewell and see if I can gather any information/gossip about the future of each.

If I play, I will sprinkle in a trip report.

Wishing you al positive variance!!!

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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 29th, 2014 at 2:31:00 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Vegas from now on? SLS?



No host at SLS
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August 29th, 2014 at 2:31:53 PM permalink
Ughh played my $15 match play on
and it came up black 13

A fitting end to my Revel experience
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August 29th, 2014 at 2:35:34 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

No host at SLS



Does that matter? You can get a host as soon as you start playing.

Sit down, buy in a for a few thousand, and tell the dealer "hey, this is my first time playing here; I don't have a host". The dealer will yell to the suit, the suit will get on the phone, and 2 minutes later a host will come by, give you his card, and tell you to call before you check out.

Sometimes they just come by without even asking.
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August 29th, 2014 at 2:37:24 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Does that matter? You can get a host as soon as you start playing.

Sit down, buy in a for a few thousand, and tell the dealer "hey, this is my first time playing here; I don't have a host". The dealer will yell to the suit, the suit will get on the phone, and 2 minutes later a host will come by, give you his card, and tell you to call before you check out.

Sometimes they just come by without even asking.



I like to know I have a room booked before I fly to vegas
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August 29th, 2014 at 2:40:07 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

I like to know I have a room booked before I fly to vegas



So book a room?

Are you worried that your new host won't take care of comping your room before you leave? At your level of play? No way. I don't see you paying for your room or your food any time soon.
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August 29th, 2014 at 2:41:23 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

So book a room?

Are you worried that your new host won't take care of comping your room before you leave? At your level of play? No way. I don't see you paying for your room or your food any time soon.



I like to be spontaneous but don't want to fly by the seat of my pants heading to Vegas without shelter booked
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August 29th, 2014 at 2:45:31 PM permalink
Always look forward to your reports Ace. Plenty of photos please!

Cheers,

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August 29th, 2014 at 2:49:27 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

I like to be spontaneous but don't want to fly by the seat of my pants heading to Vegas without shelter booked



If it doesn't work out I'm sure Axel has a couch :)

Seriously, though, just take your credit card and book a room on their web site. Before you leave, your new host will take care of it. What's the problem? I've done this before when playing at a new casino...
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August 29th, 2014 at 2:52:06 PM permalink
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August 29th, 2014 at 2:57:19 PM permalink
I heard today that Caesar's Entertainment is buying Revel, that's why they had to close the Showboat because they couldn't have both properties.. Does anybody know if this is true?
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August 29th, 2014 at 3:08:45 PM permalink
Ace, traditionally the way it works at properties you've never been to is as follows:

1. Call up the reservation line, book a room.

2. Arrive. Check in. Charge all expenses to your room account.

3. Play. Request a host if one isn't offered to you. Play some more.

4. Before you check out, meet with host and ask to have charges "comped," or removed from your room bill. This includes the charges for the room itself, as well as meals, drinks, tickets, etc. If you played big enough, they might even reimburse your airfare.


Like Axiom says, what are you worried about? You book a room before you fly there. You're not flying there with no arranged shelter. Then you get the room comped after you play.
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August 29th, 2014 at 3:20:02 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Ughh played my $15 match play on
and it came up black 13

A fitting end to my Revel experience

Last chance to leave a double decker at Revel. You'll probably open the lid and see someone beat you to it.
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August 29th, 2014 at 3:22:04 PM permalink
Quote: allinriverking

I heard today that Caesar's Entertainment is buying Revel, that's why they had to close the Showboat because they couldn't have both properties.. Does anybody know if this is true?

That rumor started floating about 3 weeks ago, but nothing to support it.
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August 29th, 2014 at 3:23:52 PM permalink
Quote: allinriverking

I heard today that Caesar's Entertainment is buying Revel, that's why they had to close the Showboat because they couldn't have both properties.. Does anybody know if this is true?

Plausible at best. They probably closed it because Horseshoe Maryland would cannibalise Atlantic City. A monopoly wasn't really a deal breaker necessarily but could have been. Will just have to wait and see.
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August 29th, 2014 at 4:01:24 PM permalink
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August 29th, 2014 at 4:22:37 PM permalink
This is a little off topic, but I hate to start set another thread about the rash of casino closings in AC, so forgive me.

When I used to have my betting system challenge one trick people would use is to negotiate all the details but leave the bet in question to be revealed at the very end, while assuring me it was a legal bet. After countless Emails, I would find out that the bet was to bet the pass or come in craps about a minute before a casino closed or a casino on a cruise ship left international waters.

If either the Revel or Showboat will keep the tables open right until a specified minute and second, then start making pass and come bets a few minutes before this deadline, as long as there is enough time for at least two more rolls. If the table closes with bets still on the table, then I would assume they would refund them. Pass and come bets have negative equity after the initial roll, so to get them back is a very good thing.

Of course, it is a huge long shot the casinos will close the game with active bets on the table. It would be terribly unfair to anybody with don't pass or don't come bets, which would have positive equity.
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August 29th, 2014 at 4:24:03 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This is a little off topic, but I hate to start set another thread about the rash of casino closings in AC, so forgive me.

When I used to have my betting system challenge one trick people would use is to negotiate all the details but leave the bet in question to be revealed at the very end, while assuring me it was a legal bet. After countless Emails, I would find out that the bet was to bet the pass or come in craps about a minute before a casino closed or a casino on a cruise ship left international waters.

If either the Revel or Showboat will keep the tables open right until a specified minute and second, then start making pass and come bets a few minutes before this deadline, as long as there is enough time for at least two more rolls. If the table closes with bets still on the table, then I would assume they would refund them. Pass and come bets have negative equity after the initial roll, so to get them back is a very good thing.

Of course, it is a huge long shot the casinos will close the game with active bets on the table. It would be terribly unfair to anybody with don't pass or don't come bets, which would have positive equity.



This trick is in the original Beyond Counting, I think.
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August 29th, 2014 at 4:50:44 PM permalink
What makes Wall Street prosperous? A chance to hit it big. No surprise casinos close down. The few hundreds bucks people can win makes no difference to anyone. Casinos remained in 70's, but inflation dictates it's own rules. Gambling industry faces miserable end. Players should be guaranteed of a chance of winning $1000 or more. The same approach Wall Street use, a long term investment, more you gamble, you should guaranteed of thousands in winnings.
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August 29th, 2014 at 5:18:22 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This is a little off topic, but I hate to start set another thread about the rash of casino closings in AC, so forgive me.

When I used to have my betting system challenge one trick people would use is to negotiate all the details but leave the bet in question to be revealed at the very end, while assuring me it was a legal bet. After countless Emails, I would find out that the bet was to bet the pass or come in craps about a minute before a casino closed or a casino on a cruise ship left international waters.

If either the Revel or Showboat will keep the tables open right until a specified minute and second, then start making pass and come bets a few minutes before this deadline, as long as there is enough time for at least two more rolls. If the table closes with bets still on the table, then I would assume they would refund them. Pass and come bets have negative equity after the initial roll, so to get them back is a very good thing.

Of course, it is a huge long shot the casinos will close the game with active bets on the table. It would be terribly unfair to anybody with don't pass or don't come bets, which would have positive equity.



From what I've seen and read, most of the time they will shut craps tables down quite early (half hour or more) to avoid any long rolls that may go over the closing time.
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August 29th, 2014 at 5:31:36 PM permalink
Quote: wudged

From what I've seen and read, most of the time they will shut craps tables down quite early (half hour or more) to avoid any long rolls that may go over the closing time.



That's what they did in the past. All Atlantic City casinos were required to close at 4AM on weekdays and 6AM on weekends. They would reopen at 10AM. You should have seen the lines to get in!
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August 29th, 2014 at 7:46:53 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Ace, traditionally the way it works at properties you've never been to is as follows:

1. Call up the reservation line, book a room.

2. Arrive. Check in. Charge all expenses to your room account.

3. Play. Request a host if one isn't offered to you. Play some more.

4. Before you check out, meet with host and ask to have charges "comped," or removed from your room bill. This includes the charges for the room itself, as well as meals, drinks, tickets, etc. If you played big enough, they might even reimburse your airfare.


Like Axiom says, what are you worried about? You book a room before you fly there. You're not flying there with no arranged shelter. Then you get the room comped after you play.




Right, but as it stands now, I have comp rooms and food/bev credits at multiple properties that I enjoy - why not use those rather than "earn" them at a new place?
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August 29th, 2014 at 7:58:00 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Right, but as it stands now, I have comp rooms and food/bev credits at multiple properties that I enjoy - why not use those rather than "earn" them at a new place?



If you're planning on playing anyway, there isn't much of a difference. Your level of play will "earn" you your room and food. So, whether it's comped up-front or not, you are still "earning" it during your trip.

If you are not planning on playing much then that's different, of course.
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August 29th, 2014 at 8:06:26 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

If you're planning on playing anyway, there isn't much of a difference. Your level of play will "earn" you your room and food. So, whether it's comped up-front or not, you are still "earning" it during your trip.

If you are not planning on playing much then that's different, of course.




Well, if the room and food/bev is pursuant to a mailing and not through a host, then all it can cost me if I decide to not play is future mailings.
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August 29th, 2014 at 8:27:57 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Well, if the room and food/bev is pursuant to a mailing and not through a host, then all it can cost me if I decide to not play is future mailings.



Right, exactly my point. If you plan not to play then it matters. Also, I find that with a good relationship with a host it's ok to play less sometimes. It's ok to be overcomped on certain trips, since you will almost certainly be undercomped on others.

But, if you do plan to play, then it makes no difference. Personally, I am planning on going and giving SLS some play to see what the mail is like. I'm hoping that while they are still fairly new they will be a bit more generous than average in an attempt to gain loyal customers.
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August 29th, 2014 at 9:10:55 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Well, if the room and food/bev is pursuant .



Pursuant? That's one of those gold plated lawyerin
words that the rest of us never use. Ever. We legally
can't, we didn't go to lawyerin school..
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August 29th, 2014 at 9:11:30 PM permalink
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Pursuant? That's one of those gold plated lawyerin
words that the rest of us never use. Ever. We legally
can't, we didn't go to lawyerin school..



lol...
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August 29th, 2014 at 9:22:07 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Pursuant? That's one of those gold plated lawyerin
words that the rest of us never use. Ever. We legally
can't, we didn't go to lawyerin school..

Yeah that's funny. Are you buying jokes now? Did you hire a writer?
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August 29th, 2014 at 10:05:45 PM permalink
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Yeah that's funny.



I'm a regular laugh riot, ask my wife. On second thought..
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August 30th, 2014 at 12:00:04 AM permalink
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I'm a regular laugh riot, ask my wife. On second thought..




Why not ? She married you, so she obviously has a sense of humor !
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August 30th, 2014 at 4:34:01 AM permalink
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Why not ? She married you, so she obviously has a sense of humor !



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August 30th, 2014 at 9:38:32 AM permalink
They are still doing the Spin for a Million drawings today from 3 til 7 each hour
Let's see what happens
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August 30th, 2014 at 10:21:19 AM permalink
Such a depressing atmosphere hovering above the closing properties
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August 30th, 2014 at 10:22:57 AM permalink
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August 30th, 2014 at 10:25:45 AM permalink
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August 30th, 2014 at 11:34:25 AM permalink
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Then call me! :-D



Okay, just don't flash them back. Leave the raincoat at home. :-)
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August 30th, 2014 at 1:17:53 PM permalink
I was not called for either the 3pm or 4pm drawing
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August 30th, 2014 at 1:21:17 PM permalink
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I was not called for either the 3pm or 4pm drawing

Time for bingo then baby!
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August 30th, 2014 at 1:32:31 PM permalink
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I was not called for either the 3pm or 4pm drawing



How are the crowds at Revel compared to last weekend?
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August 30th, 2014 at 1:41:42 PM permalink
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Such a depressing atmosphere hovering above the closing properties



Wish I could have gotten there at least once.
Oh well..
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