bub
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July 4th, 2014 at 11:07:00 PM permalink
I was playing BJ and the dealer informed me that after 60 minutes (IDK how many hands he was assuming) the house will increase it advantage. He did not elaborate on this comment other than saying since the house has to hit on 16 or below it will get the lower card combinations to get 17+ and win. Does length of time playing BJ have any effect? I was under the impression that with BS the house advantage is around .5 (6 decks).
AxelWolf
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July 5th, 2014 at 12:30:42 AM permalink
Quote: bub

I was playing BJ and the dealer informed me that after 60 minutes (IDK how many hands he was assuming) the house will increase it advantage. He did not elaborate on this comment other than saying since the house has to hit on 16 or below it will get the lower card combinations to get 17+ and win. Does length of time playing BJ have any effect? I was under the impression that with BS the house advantage is around .5 (6 decks).

# 1 rule about Black Jack NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING A DEALER SAYS TO YOU. 99% of dealers know less about blackjack then most half way intelligent gamblers. They are one step above ploppies. It's true some dealers are intelligent but that's rare to find. The best bet is to just ignore all dealers. It's also best to just shake your head up and down, and say'"Oh really, that's cool."
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Paigowdan
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July 5th, 2014 at 6:41:51 AM permalink
"A dealer told me..."

This is like "a cab driver told me...." - discussing automotive/mechanical engineering....("Let me tell you the real deal...trust me, I KNOW. I'm such a success.")

Any dealer who does not rapidly rise up in the chain of command - to no longer remain a dealer - is not someone you generally take advice from over your own study. Even Louie De Palma became a pit boss. This should scare you.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
RS
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July 5th, 2014 at 7:38:21 AM permalink
Quote: bub

I was playing BJ and the dealer informed me that after 60 minutes (IDK how many hands he was assuming) the house will increase it advantage. He did not elaborate on this comment other than saying since the house has to hit on 16 or below it will get the lower card combinations to get 17+ and win. Does length of time playing BJ have any effect? I was under the impression that with BS the house advantage is around .5 (6 decks).



There is some truth, in a way, to what the dealer told you, but not quite what you're probably thinking. The house edge does not change based on time played. But your expectation (loss) increases the more you play.

What he MAY have been getting at (but I doubt this) is that he was saying the longer you play, the more you'll lose. Perhaps he was saying "don't give it all back", since I'm sure he's seen countless times when people get on a nice run, make a few hundred (or thousand), then lose it all.

Not to mention, there's a good chance he didn't want to deal to you anymore and wanted you to leave. Not personal. Could be that he would rather deal to less (or no) players.....wanted you to leave so he could close the table and go home.....didn't want to deal to you because you make it difficult (weird bets, slow in making decisions, annoying, etc.).....wanted you to leave while ahead [and tip]....genuinely didn't want you to lose your winnings....or actually thought the house advantage increases over time (although, I truly doubt this one).


As a general rule of thumb, as mentioned above, you should not think the dealer is some professional or "smart" when it comes to blackjack. There's a difference between "we offer surrender" and "you should surrender that ____ hand". Ultimately, you should be well versed in basic strategy and there shouldn't be any surprises when the dealer mentions something. Most dealers offer bad advice, but not all do. It's up to you to use your judgement and figure out what's good/bad advice.
GWAE
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July 5th, 2014 at 7:44:59 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

# 1 rule about Black Jack NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING A DEALER SAYS TO YOU. 99% of dealers know less about blackjack then most half way intelligent gamblers. They are one step above ploppies. It's true some dealers are intelligent but that's rare to find. The best bet is to just ignore all dealers. It's also best to just shake your head up and down, and say'"Oh really, that's cool."



Axel, don't forget about rules 2-5 as well.

2. NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING A DEALER SAYS TO YOU
3. NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING A DEALER SAYS TO YOU
4. NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING A DEALER SAYS TO YOU
5. NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING A DEALER SAYS TO YOU
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed. I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
Paigowdan
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July 5th, 2014 at 7:47:38 AM permalink
I wouldn't go this far. Sometimes, a dealer gets it right. But you do what it takes to get it right for yourself. I'm simply saying do your own research. www.wizardofodds.com
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
Ibeatyouraces
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July 5th, 2014 at 8:06:08 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Paigowdan
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July 5th, 2014 at 8:19:35 AM permalink
yes, but you can punish slow learners. Actually, they do it to themselves.

Use the resources.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.

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