Surrender and "flashing dealers"

Wizardofodds.com has an appendix with a strategy table for when the dealer exposes his/her hole card (regular Blackjack, not Double Exposure). One thing not addressed there that someone was asking me about is when you should surrender if available in such cases. Does anyone know the appropriate player/dealer hand combinations you should take (late) surrender under (I imagine there would be a lot if the dealer had 20)?

Not much camouflage there if you start surrendering hard 17's-19's.

I'd say never surrender hard 17+ hands, unless the dealer's been showing a ton of 19/20s in a row, then you can whine about it and surrender 17s. That way you just look like an idiot.

Quote: f2d

then you can whine about it and surrender 17s. That way you just look like an idiot.

The surveillance room won't hear the whine. The Floor might not hear it either or might focus more on the action than the whine.

Quote: FleaStiff

The surveillance room won't hear the whine. The Floor might not hear it either or might focus more on the action than the whine.

I think that's the kind of thing the dealer needs to call attention to for it to be investigated.

If surveillance investigated every dumbtarded play people make at blackjack tables, they couldn't hire enough staff to do it.

Quote: f2d

I think that's the kind of thing the dealer needs to call attention to for it to be investigated.

If surveillance investigated every dumbtarded play people make at blackjack tables, they couldn't hire enough staff to do it.

I think "dumbtarded" is my new favorite word. Also, I agree with your point.