Martin1024
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May 23rd, 2014 at 2:39:12 PM permalink
Basic strategy you surrender 16 vs T otherwise hit, stand at TC +0 and stand if your 16 is made with 3 or more cards. .. right?

But what about a multicard, 16 vs 7-A? Do you still hit or stand? Do you always hit a multicard 15 vs 7-A?

Also on a no hole card s 17 6 deck BS is surrender 17 vs A. I know 17 is a lousy hand, is there any significance difference if you stand instead?
geoff
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May 23rd, 2014 at 7:42:00 PM permalink
If you have a 16 and you know the dealer has 7-A somehow then you would always hit. I'm not sure if you're trying to ask some other question.
AxiomOfChoice
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May 23rd, 2014 at 7:47:23 PM permalink
Quote: geoff

If you have a 16 and you know the dealer has 7-A somehow then you would always hit. I'm not sure if you're trying to ask some other question.



By "somehow", do you mean, by looking at the up card?
Venthus
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May 23rd, 2014 at 7:50:19 PM permalink
Quote: geoff

If you have a 16 and you know the dealer has 7-A somehow then you would always hit. I'm not sure if you're trying to ask some other question.



I think he meant a "7 to A", not a soft-18.
geoff
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May 23rd, 2014 at 8:05:27 PM permalink
Quote: Venthus

I think he meant a "7 to A", not a soft-18.



Ah well in that case the answer to his question is yes you always hit them. Technically there is a point where you wouldn't, but it's not really worth learning.
AcesAndEights
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May 23rd, 2014 at 10:03:00 PM permalink
Quote: geoff

Ah well in that case the answer to his question is yes you always hit them. Technically there is a point where you wouldn't, but it's not really worth learning.


The index for 16v9 is +5TC in HiLo and makes the list of the illustrious 18. But in general, yeah, hit those. Not nearly as close as 16v10.
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Sonuvabish
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May 24th, 2014 at 9:49:49 AM permalink
Quote: Martin1024

Basic strategy you surrender 16 vs T otherwise hit, stand at TC +0 and stand if your 16 is made with 3 or more cards. .. right?

But what about a multicard, 16 vs 7-A? Do you still hit or stand? Do you always hit a multicard 15 vs 7-A?

Also on a no hole card s 17 6 deck BS is surrender 17 vs A. I know 17 is a lousy hand, is there any significance difference if you stand instead?



Basic strategy is to stand on a multi-card 16 v 10. If you are counting, you would ignore this rule and use the running count of 0..not true count. For 16 v 7, 8, 9, A, hit regardless of cards. For a 15, there is no multi-card rule always hit. There are TCs where you would stand, but if you are a proficient counter, you should know them.

Yes there is a difference if you stand on 17, especially in no hole card because this is early surrender. Surrender it.
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