BigJer
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April 3rd, 2014 at 2:22:25 PM permalink
Just wondering.
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sabre
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April 3rd, 2014 at 3:12:16 PM permalink
25.7 seconds.
BigJer
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April 3rd, 2014 at 3:19:39 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

25.7 seconds.



Almost there. ;) Thanks.
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rob45
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April 3rd, 2014 at 3:49:59 PM permalink
Short answer:
It depends.

Much longer answer:
Team methods and structures vary considerably. Teams can vary from two friends helping each other all the way up to several counters funded by outside investors, and everything else in between.
Trust is obviously a large concern with team play, not only for joint bankroll issues, but also individual abilities as well. Similar to a sports team, each individual must have the confidence that other team members are "pulling their weight and doing their job".

Minimum standards are developed, often leading to a vetting process.
Ideally, the same type of counting system is used by all. Although this is not required for successful team operation, it leads to simple and consistent vetting. If two individuals possess the ability to count a deck in the same amount of time, yet one individual is using Hi-Lo while the other is using Hi-Opt II, well...you get the picture.
Another benefit to having everyone use the same system includes more accurate assessments regarding overall earnings expectations.
Finally, having everyone use the same counting strategy reduces problems when the time comes to "break the bank", as it becomes the simpler issue of hours played and initial money invested, etc. instead of arguments such as "I'm a stronger player using a more difficult strategy; therefore, I deserve a larger cut."

Different teams have different standards, and some even have none.
Should you find yourself in the circumstance of joining a team with no minimum standards, then reading this thread may benefit you.
BigJer
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April 3rd, 2014 at 3:56:57 PM permalink
Quote: rob45

Short answer:
It depends.

Much longer answer:
Team methods and structures vary considerably. Teams can vary from two friends helping each other all the way up to several counters funded by outside investors, and everything else in between.
Trust is obviously a large concern with team play, not only for joint bankroll issues, but also individual abilities as well. Similar to a sports team, each individual must have the confidence that other team members are "pulling their weight and doing their job".

Minimum standards are developed, often leading to a vetting process.
Ideally, the same type of counting system is used by all. Although this is not required for successful team operation, it leads to simple and consistent vetting. If two individuals possess the ability to count a deck in the same amount of time, yet one individual is using Hi-Lo while the other is using Hi-Opt II, well...you get the picture.
Another benefit to having everyone use the same system includes more accurate assessments regarding overall earnings expectations.
Finally, having everyone use the same counting strategy reduces problems when the time comes to "break the bank", as it becomes the simpler issue of hours played and initial money invested, etc. instead of arguments such as "I'm a stronger player using a more difficult strategy; therefore, I deserve a larger cut."

Different teams have different standards, and some even have none.
Should you find yourself in the circumstance of joining a team with no minimum standards, then reading this thread may benefit you.



Thanks man. And I'll read the link.
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AceTwo
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April 8th, 2014 at 1:10:18 PM permalink
Counting down a deck one card at a time in 25 sec or 20 sec or whatever is way overated.
I have no ides what a team will look for (alwys played solo) but I do no think this is very important. This is more like a party trick if you can do it in say 25 sec.
Counting down on a BJ table felt, cancelling out cards on same hand or even cancelling out in different hands and counting +2 (say for 10,10) etc make the speed a lot faster than counting one card at a time.
Never found a BJ dealer that can deal faster than I can count (and I do not count that fast on this one at card time party trick) qand I have played some very fast BJ dealers.
That's teh importnat yardstick. To be able to count accurately against a very fast dealer with no problem (ie as he deals the 2nd card for each hand)
BigJer
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April 8th, 2014 at 1:16:02 PM permalink
Thanks. I agree BTW.
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