Mikey75
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March 17th, 2013 at 12:42:25 PM permalink
At GoldStrike in Tunica they offer a side bet on the first two cards that you draw totaling 20. If I remember correctly it pays four to one for any 20. It then progresses in payout from there depending on you have the same suit ect. I don't remember the how the payout ratios went. It was a pretty large list. My question is as the count increases, would the odds ever be good enough to play the side bet?

The man setting beside me the last time I was there was betting $50 a hand and dropping $5 a hand on the side bet. He only hit 20 a couple of times. I know playing it all the time the odds wouldn't be that great. But if you only played it on a higher count it looks to me like the odds would increase. Any advice on this?
charliepatrick
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March 17th, 2013 at 2:15:23 PM permalink
Sounds like Lucky Ladies http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/blackjackluckyladies.html which has such a high house edge it seems very unlikely, unless something weird happened with Queen of Hearts (e.g. you knew it was up next).
13-02-20 Removed brackets round the link.
Ibeatyouraces
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March 17th, 2013 at 2:18:34 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Mikey75
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March 17th, 2013 at 2:52:31 PM permalink
I tried the link that you posted but it didn't work. I don't know about lucky ladies but this one pays out on all 20's regardless of which cards you have.
Zcore13
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March 17th, 2013 at 3:47:20 PM permalink
Here is the Wizard of Odds link to Lucky Ladies. It is countable and exploitable.

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Paradigm
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March 17th, 2013 at 5:32:20 PM permalink
Here is a link to teliot's site that discusses the countablility of the Lucky Ladies bet. I assume it also applies to the SHFL version called "Kings Bounty" I believe:

Counting Lucky Ladies
Mikey75
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March 17th, 2013 at 7:19:20 PM permalink
Thanks so much for the information. The game that I played that had the LL side bet was a six deck game. Following the link above concerning counting it doesn't look like it would be in a counters best interest to count for LL instead of using Hi-Lo. I don't know if they offer the LL on a 2 deck game or not. Seems like the LL count would be good to use on a 2 deck game. Thanks again for all of the info!!
Mikey75
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March 18th, 2013 at 8:55:22 PM permalink
I downloaded Professional Blackjack by Stanford Wong to my kindle app. I'm reading tonight and I come to the chapter about side bets. It has a very short reference to the LL side bet. It says to check out wizardofodds.com for more details on this bet!! Several things that I have read in this book seem more current than when it was written. Do you think the kindle version could be updated??

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