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February 26th, 2013 at 6:42:21 PM permalink
With all this modern tech in casinos, it could be all automated.

the camera does the count, and when it's hugely unfavorable the computer signals the pit boss who in turn tells the blackjack dealer to shuffle.

So why isnt this done?

and dont say noone will go to that casino to play once news is leaked.
look at 6:5 blackjack and how popular it is...
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February 26th, 2013 at 6:51:09 PM permalink
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February 26th, 2013 at 7:02:47 PM permalink
I think the main reason is probably that it smells like cheating to the casual casino patron and would be a major turn off to even most squares. People are far more likely to tolerate CSM's which would have a similar effect on the game as what you propose.
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February 26th, 2013 at 7:04:41 PM permalink
I think stopping play would really make people wonder, and upset if they were on a run. To your point, if they need to keep things favorable, they can make rule adjustments like 6:5. But at least then it doesn't change on you mid-shoe.
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February 26th, 2013 at 7:30:56 PM permalink
I have only first hand witnessed this behavior once. El Cortez, about 8 years ago on a $5 single deck table. Nobody was betting more that $25. An oriental pit woman was standing beside the table. After every hand the dealer gave her a glance. Every time the shoe went positive, she had the dealer shuffle up. Even if that was only after one hand. If the deck was negative she had the dealer keep dealing deep into the deck.
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February 26th, 2013 at 9:46:09 PM permalink
At that point I would walk away. The only thing you could even do to hope for help is to play one hand right after the shuffle, and then walk away. far far away. like to the casino next door
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February 26th, 2013 at 9:56:24 PM permalink
@the OP - when players stand on hard 9s and hit hard 19s the casino needs to be careful not to slow the game down, which early shuffling does substantially.
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February 27th, 2013 at 12:55:41 AM permalink
Shuffling no matter the reason is a good way to get people to quit for not wanting to wait, so I'm not sure it is a good play for the casino if people leave.
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February 27th, 2013 at 3:20:43 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

With all this modern tech in casinos, it could be all automated.

the camera does the count, and when it's hugely unfavorable the computer signals the pit boss who in turn tells the blackjack dealer to shuffle.

So why isnt this done?

and dont say noone will go to that casino to play once news is leaked.
look at 6:5 blackjack and how popular it is...



Decreasing hands per hour by shuffling early reduces profits faster than a counter who may or may not win no matter how positive the shoe is. Counters can always be dealt with individually. I have been shuffled up on and half shoed many times in Atlantic City where they can't ban counters. Even they will try flat betting before sacrificing hands per hour.
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February 27th, 2013 at 9:27:04 AM permalink
If you search the Internet for "preferential shuffling" you'll learn that the practice you mentioned does have some history. The problem is that it's like removing good cards from the deck or shoe; it hurts the odds of everyone who plays (and not just counters), which makes it a borderline case of cheating on the part of the casino.
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February 27th, 2013 at 10:19:35 AM permalink
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February 27th, 2013 at 10:21:13 AM permalink
Quote: Kellynbnf

If you search the Internet for "preferential shuffling" you'll learn that the practice you mentioned does have some history. The problem is that it's like removing good cards from the deck or shoe; it hurts the odds of everyone who plays (and not just counters), which makes it a borderline case of cheating on the part of the casino.


Wasn't there a lawsuit about this practice?
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February 27th, 2013 at 12:35:40 PM permalink
I seem to recall some administrative action taken against the use of a device then marketed as "Smart Table" which had a light that indicated the dealer should shuffle. It was basically a table that automatically counted being used in a casino that threw out players who did the same thing.
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February 27th, 2013 at 12:57:41 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I seem to recall some administrative action taken against the use of a device then marketed as "Smart Table" which had a light that indicated the dealer should shuffle. It was basically a table that automatically counted being used in a casino that threw out players who did the same thing.


This system doesn't actually recommend that the dealer shuffle, though I suppose it could -- but it does tell the pit when the count goes positive so they can watch for any players who increase their bets:
http://www.casinoenterprisemanagement.com/newswire/econnect-showcase-blackjack-card-counting-technology-world-game-protection
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February 27th, 2013 at 1:00:56 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

This system doesn't actually recommend that the dealer shuffle, though I suppose it could -- but it does tell the pit when the count goes positive so they can watch for any players who increase their bets:
http://www.casinoenterprisemanagement.com/newswire/econnect-showcase-blackjack-card-counting-technology-world-game-protection


That might be the intended purpose of the inventor and developer of the product, but I would suggest that a casino owning it would probably use that information to no longer deal hands with a deck that is stacked against the house. Law of unintended consequences I suppose.
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February 27th, 2013 at 1:19:59 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

I think the main reason is probably that it smells like cheating to the casual casino patron and would be a major turn off to even most squares. People are far more likely to tolerate CSM's which would have a similar effect on the game as what you propose.



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