aceofspades
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November 24th, 2012 at 10:23:01 AM permalink
Mixed in here in AC with the Video Poker machines are some video blackjack machines - the rules actually look good (see photo).

Can anyone quantify the House Edge for this game?


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November 24th, 2012 at 10:27:01 AM permalink
Spades who is the manufacturer?
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November 24th, 2012 at 10:29:42 AM permalink
Bj pays 2 for 1 this means bj pays even money.This game is not good!
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November 24th, 2012 at 10:32:30 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Bj pays 2 for 1 this means bj pays even money.This game is not good!




Ohhhh I thought it meant DOUBLE guess it is not so good
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November 24th, 2012 at 10:34:24 AM permalink
Quote: rainman

Spades who is the manufacturer?





I believe it is IGT but I will go back to confirm
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November 24th, 2012 at 10:37:38 AM permalink
Another catch is that a lot of these machines will only let you bet either one credit or everything you've got in the machine, so surrender (as well as insurance) is a phantom.

I've found these things are good for "washing" free slot play or for putting in playthrough for a promotion, if not excluded in either case. The edge isn't bad for slots, and you're less likely to be faced with an extended downswing than in "real" slots or even VP.
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November 24th, 2012 at 10:38:35 AM permalink
Blackjack should pay 7.5 to 5. Also, stay away from the BJ games that offer 6-5 for blackjack.

Vegas strip rules give the house edge about .4% before AP. Not hard to overcome but few capable of dicipline.
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November 24th, 2012 at 10:43:12 AM permalink
Quote: bigpete88

Blackjack should pay 7.5 to 5. Also, stay away from the BJ games that offer 6-5 for blackjack.

Vegas strip rules give the house edge about .4% before and AP. Not hard to overcome but few capable of dicipline.





My thinking the game was good was based on my interpretation of blackjacks paying 2 to 1 (I thought it would be a $2 payout in addition to original $1 bet) - so, I realize now that is incorrect so my thinking the game was good is no longer valid
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November 24th, 2012 at 10:55:51 AM permalink
Oh - as for what the edge is, I seem to recall you can't double after a split on these, and I think you can resplit up to three but not four. I used the Wizard's calculator, multiplied the difference between 3:2 and 6:5 by 5/3, and added the 3:2 edge to get a total of 2.90%. So yeah, about on par with the field bet, or single-zero roulette (without imprisonment), or sic bo. Not bad for slots, if you must play slots.

If you can size your bets so the surrender option is practical, if you can double after a split, etc., it probably doesn't matter much - the lowest the edge is going to be will be about 2.3% due to the even-money blackjacks.
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November 24th, 2012 at 11:04:57 AM permalink
" Not bad for slots, if you must play slots. "

I prefer penny slots. No jackpot on video BJ Just grind, grind, grind !@
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November 24th, 2012 at 11:32:58 AM permalink
"Pays X for Y" is not the same as "Pays X to Y."

"X for Y" means for every Y in, you get X out. You put $10 in, you get $20 out.

"X to Y" is a ratio, you get X/Y times Y, plus you get to keep Y. You put $10 in, you get $15, on top of your original $10.
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