Anyone been kicked out of casino?
August 1st, 2012 at 10:32:45 AM
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I've had casino personel stare at my game.
Has anyone been kicked out for counting?
Has anyone been kicked out for counting?
Born in Texas and lived in Texas my whole life.
August 1st, 2012 at 10:38:46 AM
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Sort of. Been backed off from blackjack probably 12-14 times. That is told you can play any other game except blackjack. Been backed off a second non-card game 3 times. Had one incident that I was told to get out of the casino and not come back, but was not formally trespassed.
August 1st, 2012 at 10:40:43 AM
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Quote: jjjooogggI've had casino personel stare at my game.
Some are paid to do just that.
Quote: jjjoooggg
Has anyone been kicked out for counting?
Sure, lots of people.
August 1st, 2012 at 10:45:08 AM
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Quote: kewljBeen backed off a second non-card game 3 times.
I want to hear this story. Were you destroying the craps table with your mad dice setting ways?
Personally, I have never been kicked out of a casino. In fact, casinos keep calling me and asking when I would like to come back. I wonder if it has to do with my cheerful personality or the fact that I donate lots of money to them.
Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math.
August 1st, 2012 at 11:02:51 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
August 1st, 2012 at 11:15:25 AM
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Ok. I'm a new counter. I figure even the best counter will lose 5*% of the time. So they'd have to analyze a lot of playing hours before they kick you?
Born in Texas and lived in Texas my whole life.
August 1st, 2012 at 11:19:35 AM
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Quote: jjjooogggOk. I'm a new counter. I figure even the best counter will lose 5*% of the time. So they'd have to analyze a lot of playing hours before they kick you?
If they are really on the ball, they will most likely back you off first. They want your money, so if you are willing to play as a consistent loser in their establishment, they will welcome you with open arms like all the other suckers playing slots. If you don't take the hint, they will bar you. As you can imagine, the cat and mouse game with security isn't much fun for the player and makes card counters critically endangered species.
August 1st, 2012 at 12:27:57 PM
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Been frisked, but never actually ejected.
August 1st, 2012 at 12:41:26 PM
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Does being kicked out of Caesars fountain count? he he
Be careful when you follow the masses, the M is sometimes silent.
August 1st, 2012 at 12:46:19 PM
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I've been backed off from blackjack at one place, and flat-bet at another (i.e. "You can still play blackjack, just don't vary your bets"). At both of these places my max bet was about $150. The term "sweat shop" comes to mind.
If you count for any amount of time, it will happen eventually (I've only been counting since September 2011, and recreationally). Just try to spread your action around enough that you last as long as you can. There's a balancing point that is different for everyone based on your level of play, quality of act, cover (which is highly not recommended for low or mid stakes players) etc.
If you count for any amount of time, it will happen eventually (I've only been counting since September 2011, and recreationally). Just try to spread your action around enough that you last as long as you can. There's a balancing point that is different for everyone based on your level of play, quality of act, cover (which is highly not recommended for low or mid stakes players) etc.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
August 1st, 2012 at 12:57:27 PM
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I was kicked out of the Klondike in Vegas in
2006 for winning $400 at BJ in 20 min. I
wasn't even counting, I was waiting for my
wife so we could eat at the buffet, which
she had a coupon for.
The suit who told me to leave was very rude
about it. He told me to cash out and leave.
So I cashed out and found my wife and we
got in line at the buffet. About 5min later,
here comes the suit. Security must have alerted
him I was still there. He said to me again to
get out, and my wife said she had a coupon.
He reached out his hand for it and she gave it
to him and without even looking at it, he tore it
up and threw the pieces on the floor. Then
security marched us out.
They closed for good 3 months later, so they
were really sweating the money when I was
there. The place was a real dive anyway, I
would have never gone back if they had stayed
open.
2006 for winning $400 at BJ in 20 min. I
wasn't even counting, I was waiting for my
wife so we could eat at the buffet, which
she had a coupon for.
The suit who told me to leave was very rude
about it. He told me to cash out and leave.
So I cashed out and found my wife and we
got in line at the buffet. About 5min later,
here comes the suit. Security must have alerted
him I was still there. He said to me again to
get out, and my wife said she had a coupon.
He reached out his hand for it and she gave it
to him and without even looking at it, he tore it
up and threw the pieces on the floor. Then
security marched us out.
They closed for good 3 months later, so they
were really sweating the money when I was
there. The place was a real dive anyway, I
would have never gone back if they had stayed
open.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 1st, 2012 at 1:32:23 PM
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Quote: kewljSort of. Been backed off from blackjack probably 12-14 times. That is told you can play any other game except blackjack. Been backed off a second non-card game 3 times. Had one incident that I was told to get out of the casino and not come back, but was not formally trespassed.
Kewlj,
If there is another AP at the same blackjack table with you, do you stay or leave? Also, same question for when and if other players realize you are a better player and adjust their bets based on yours. (Seeing the same players win consistently stands out to the regulars also)
August 1st, 2012 at 1:34:29 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI was kicked out of the Klondike in Vegas in
2006 for winning $400 at BJ in 20 min. I
wasn't even counting.
Good story, I wonder if just coincidentally you bet big when the count was good, and they had the dealer or somebody who knew the count.
Or mistaken identity?
Or they just had a rule, nobody is allowed to win? [g]
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
August 1st, 2012 at 1:57:43 PM
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Quote: odiousgambitGood story, I wonder if just coincidentally you bet big when the count was good, and they had the dealer or somebody who knew the count.
Or mistaken identity?
Or they just had a rule, nobody is allowed to win? [g]
They were going under, they were going to close
in 3 months, so no winners were tolerated for
any reason. I was just lucky, but out I went. And
he was really pissed about it, like I broke into his
car or something. Its gone now, they tore it
down to build the Paramount Casino, but thats
been put on hold because of the economy. The Klondike
is where they filmed Clark Griswald playing all
those fake games, like guess the number, in
Vegas Vacation. It was originally a Motel 6 in
the 60's, then it was turned into a casino.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 1st, 2012 at 4:14:54 PM
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I have been backroomed once, trespassed 3 times and backed off 5 times.
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
August 1st, 2012 at 4:38:10 PM
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I was kind of back roomed at Circus Circus
for a messed up slot of my wife's.
She put in $50 and it didn't give her credit.
After it worked its way up the chain,
they took us in the back to a very small
room and a big thick necked guy asked
us over and over if we were sure she
put $50 in the machine. He kept saying
we were in big trouble if we were lying.
After they examined the video, they could
see she put something in the thing, so
the thick necked guy brought her a $50 bill
and never smiled, never said sorry, never
said a word. Just turned and left and we
found our way out of the casino.
It was pretty scary, and it really did happen.
I've had people say they don't believe it.
That guy was ex cop or ex mob or ex
something, he had scaring the crap out
of you down pat. You see it on TV and say
so what, but when its just you and some
guy who could break you in half, its a different
story.
for a messed up slot of my wife's.
She put in $50 and it didn't give her credit.
After it worked its way up the chain,
they took us in the back to a very small
room and a big thick necked guy asked
us over and over if we were sure she
put $50 in the machine. He kept saying
we were in big trouble if we were lying.
After they examined the video, they could
see she put something in the thing, so
the thick necked guy brought her a $50 bill
and never smiled, never said sorry, never
said a word. Just turned and left and we
found our way out of the casino.
It was pretty scary, and it really did happen.
I've had people say they don't believe it.
That guy was ex cop or ex mob or ex
something, he had scaring the crap out
of you down pat. You see it on TV and say
so what, but when its just you and some
guy who could break you in half, its a different
story.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 1st, 2012 at 5:20:48 PM
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Quote: EvenBobSo I cashed out and found my wife and we
got in line at the buffet. About 5min later,
here comes the suit. Security must have alerted
him I was still there. He said to me again to
get out, and my wife said she had a coupon.
He reached out his hand for it and she gave it
to him and without even looking at it, he tore it
up and threw the pieces on the floor. ...The place was a real dive anyway, I
would have never gone back if they had stayed open.
Sounds like he did you a backhanded favor keeping you out of that buffet. Probably sucked as much as the casino.
"Poker sure is an easy game to beat if you have the roll to keep rebuying."
August 1st, 2012 at 5:28:01 PM
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Quote: zippyboySounds like he did you a backhanded favor keeping you out of that buffet. Probably sucked as much as the casino.
Klondike was always known for their food. They're
the one's that had the all you can eat breakfast
buffet in the 70's for $1.49
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 1st, 2012 at 6:37:16 PM
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It's only now, after having read stories here on WoV for the last couple years, that I realize that I came close to being backed off or flat bet or something, once.
It was about 5 years ago, Mohegan Sun, CT.
There were a bunch of full tables at one minimum, and several empty tables at a higher minimum. I asked the pit boss if he'd consider lowering it at the tale I was standing near. To my surprise, he did.
I sat down and played. A couple more people sat down as well. About half an hour late, he happens to walk over and see that I have a big bet up, and asks what happened to my request for the lower minimum. I politely told him that I had been winning and bumping my bet. When I lose, I'll drop back to that lost table minimum. Plus I don't like to play alone because the game goes too fast.
I seem to recall him asking the dealer if that was correct.
At any rate, he considered it for a moment and said OK, and went to the next table.
It was about 5 years ago, Mohegan Sun, CT.
There were a bunch of full tables at one minimum, and several empty tables at a higher minimum. I asked the pit boss if he'd consider lowering it at the tale I was standing near. To my surprise, he did.
I sat down and played. A couple more people sat down as well. About half an hour late, he happens to walk over and see that I have a big bet up, and asks what happened to my request for the lower minimum. I politely told him that I had been winning and bumping my bet. When I lose, I'll drop back to that lost table minimum. Plus I don't like to play alone because the game goes too fast.
I seem to recall him asking the dealer if that was correct.
At any rate, he considered it for a moment and said OK, and went to the next table.
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August 2nd, 2012 at 1:49:51 PM
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I've only been counting since 2007 and strictly at a flea level of play. So no I've never been backed off...but the few times I've been lucky enough to build up some bigger stacks I defintely got some unwanted attention. Lots of floor supervisors hanging around asking where I was staying etc. etc. usually about that time I find a reason to leave the table. I think the key is to spread your action around as much as possible.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:53:40 PM
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Quote: vendman1Lots of floor supervisors hanging around asking where I was staying etc. etc.
Say you're staying at your mom's house. Seriously.
Even if you're 40 or over 50. It really throws them
off, try it. They'll shut right up and wander away.
They think you're a rube and you'll drop off their
screen.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:30:10 PM
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Quote: EvenBobSay you're staying at your mom's house. Seriously.
Even if you're 40 or over 50. It really throws them
off, try it. They'll shut right up and wander away.
They think you're a rube and you'll drop off their
screen.
I like where your heads at EvenBob, I'll try that next time.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:36:26 PM
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Quote: EvenBobSay you're staying at your mom's house. Seriously.
Even if you're 40 or over 50. It really throws them
off, try it. They'll shut right up and wander away.
Right, next time I'll tell the floorguy I'm staying at his mom's house. Or at his daughter's house. Good plan.
"Poker sure is an easy game to beat if you have the roll to keep rebuying."
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:39:36 PM
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Quote: vendman1I like where your heads at EvenBob, I'll try that next time.
If you act dumb and clueless, and are good at it,
they'll believe it. People tend to believe whatever
you tell them, its easier. Drink redneck beer, like
Coor's light. Never give anybody advice, you
don't know enough to give anybody advice. If
they ask if you want a players card, say Naw,
I'll just lose it. Ask if you should split 9's.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:45:41 PM
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I had my rights read at Caesars and backed off at one other place. Vegas does not like winners and uses the trespassing act which has nothing to do with playing a game they offer. It really pisses me off.
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:03:49 PM
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Quote: bigpete88I had my rights read at Caesars and backed off at one other place. Vegas does not like winners .
How much were you ahead?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:02:25 AM
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60k in 12 months. Had positive variance for almost the entire year. Win rate was above expected. Three suits came up to me to say I could play any other game but blackjack. I asked them if they wanted to take my picture and they declined. I knew they had it anyway as I played often. Full RFB. Nice comps for the year :-)
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:18:20 AM
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Upon entering a "casino" near my home with a camera in hand, I was offered the choice of checking the camera with security, or being denied entry. But I don't think this really counts.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:27:45 AM
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Well I have yet to see a long streak of positive. Ive played 1** hours. Dealer had a sarcastic look whe I almost tripled my money in half an hour. I used cover bets. Two dealers laughed at me while i went through a long streak of negative variance while I was betting my top bet. I left with a $265 loss. But i was up at least double. Someone here said that he/she heard dealers talk badly behind our backs during a break. Another place I kept winning and I felt that the dealer didnt like me. I tipped him and he didnt say thanks.
Born in Texas and lived in Texas my whole life.
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:09:20 AM
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Quote: jjjooogggOk. I'm a new counter. I figure even the best counter will lose 5*% of the time. So they'd have to analyze a lot of playing hours before they kick you?
The best counters lose much more than 5% of the time. I think my estimate based on a 2hr StDev versus EV puts it around 45%.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:31:35 AM
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Some casinos are more tolerant of winners than others, but they all have their limits in Vegas, where they can, and do, bar.
Only tip on winning sessions and tip small as it really cuts into your win rate.
Read up on variance and risk of ruin. You will run good and bad for what seems like improbable time periods but within variance mathematically.
You need big bet spreads to win and that opens up to getting barred. MIT team copied Kenny Uston's "The Big Player" many years after Kenny wrote it. There is also shuffle tracking and card sequencing which is more training than I want to take on.
Arnold Snyder is one author to follow. Gamblers Book Club in Vegas too.
Only tip on winning sessions and tip small as it really cuts into your win rate.
Read up on variance and risk of ruin. You will run good and bad for what seems like improbable time periods but within variance mathematically.
You need big bet spreads to win and that opens up to getting barred. MIT team copied Kenny Uston's "The Big Player" many years after Kenny wrote it. There is also shuffle tracking and card sequencing which is more training than I want to take on.
Arnold Snyder is one author to follow. Gamblers Book Club in Vegas too.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:37:57 AM
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I have a hard time imagining that it would be profitable to bar winners of any amount whom they don't suspect of cheating or AP...
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:50:15 AM
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Circus Circus was famous for having security guards who were the big, beefy type. No "sport jackets", just a belt full of intimidating equipment and the appearance of too much muscles to have any brains.
It was probably necessary for keeping rowdy kids in line and keeping thieves at bay. They also had a no-excuses pickup truck with a cage in it if you left an animal in a parked car. Every shift, Every day... any kid or any animal in a parked car...guaranteed arrest and prosecution.
At one time they had a night patrol with a guy with a police dog on one side and twirling an Irish "walking stick" in the other. That ended their auto theft and auto breakins problem. Probably had an effect on teenage brats too.
Some craps dealers at Circus Circus even felt security there was the no-nonsense, no courtesy type and once commented on the manner in which two big burly guards arrived at their table and took away a diminutive newly arrived player who hadn't yet had the opportunity to do anything wrong.
Circus Circus at the time was well known for this we don't wear sport jackets and we don't say "please" or "thank you" policy.
It was probably necessary for keeping rowdy kids in line and keeping thieves at bay. They also had a no-excuses pickup truck with a cage in it if you left an animal in a parked car. Every shift, Every day... any kid or any animal in a parked car...guaranteed arrest and prosecution.
At one time they had a night patrol with a guy with a police dog on one side and twirling an Irish "walking stick" in the other. That ended their auto theft and auto breakins problem. Probably had an effect on teenage brats too.
Some craps dealers at Circus Circus even felt security there was the no-nonsense, no courtesy type and once commented on the manner in which two big burly guards arrived at their table and took away a diminutive newly arrived player who hadn't yet had the opportunity to do anything wrong.
Circus Circus at the time was well known for this we don't wear sport jackets and we don't say "please" or "thank you" policy.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:53:32 AM
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Yes, suspected AP
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:55:04 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffCircus Circus was famous for having security guards who were the big, beefy type..
The guy who backroomed us at CC had no
neck, I swear. Its like his head was resting
on his shoulders.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:20:47 AM
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I made a typo mistake. I meant to say that I figure counters lose 4*% of the time. So dealers can't tell if your counting if you cover well.
Born in Texas and lived in Texas my whole life.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:25:10 AM
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I saw one of those beefy pit bosses. He was angry about something. I dont think it was me, not sure.
Born in Texas and lived in Texas my whole life.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:45:25 AM
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Quote: EvenBobIf you act dumb and clueless, and are good at it,
they'll believe it. People tend to believe whatever
you tell them, its easier. Drink redneck beer, like
Coor's light. Never give anybody advice, you
don't know enough to give anybody advice. If
they ask if you want a players card, say Naw,
I'll just lose it. Ask if you should split 9's.
Great minds think alike!! I've tried all those moves...but it's real hard to bite my tongue when some chucklehead is about to split 10's... I can't stomach cheap beer though. I have to draw the line somewhere :) The biggest argument I ever had in a casino was when I split 9's against a dealer 6 (with a very high count as I recall)...and got a rash of shit from the whole table and peanut gallery when the dealer pulled a 4 card 21, and we all lost.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:25:08 PM
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1981 kicked out of the Marina Hotel and Casino (on the strip). Never went back. I think it was closed not too long after that. Later in 1981, the Barbary Coast told me I couldn't play blackjack any longer. I was only playing 2 hands at $5 to $15 each and was only up about $20. Some floor man in a ugly blue leisure suit was the culprit. I had won approx. $200 at the same table the weekend before. Back then I was young but had snow white hair and it was fairly long (to my shoulders) at the time, so I probably stood out a little. I was a cowboy back then as I still am a little. I went back several times in 1982 and later and no one ever recognized me or cared.
I used to get a lot of heat everywhere except Caesars, even when I had my new wife with me. Back then Caesars had one table ($25 limit) with the best rules in Vegas, maybe the best anywhere. The rest of the tables were mostly from a shoe. Those were days long before anyone ever heard of 6/5 blackjack.
That has really changed over the past several years. I never feel uncomfortable at any nice or any cheaper casino now. But then I only play 3/2 blackjack and nothing from a shoe. Wife always plays at my table and I think that really helps. I still play two hands but usually only $10 or $20 per.
I think you would have to be betting big bucks and be obnoxious to get kicked out now.
I used to get a lot of heat everywhere except Caesars, even when I had my new wife with me. Back then Caesars had one table ($25 limit) with the best rules in Vegas, maybe the best anywhere. The rest of the tables were mostly from a shoe. Those were days long before anyone ever heard of 6/5 blackjack.
That has really changed over the past several years. I never feel uncomfortable at any nice or any cheaper casino now. But then I only play 3/2 blackjack and nothing from a shoe. Wife always plays at my table and I think that really helps. I still play two hands but usually only $10 or $20 per.
I think you would have to be betting big bucks and be obnoxious to get kicked out now.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:26:24 PM
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Ken Uston was being the BIG gorilla in AC when Resorts first opened. Over a two week period he was called into only positive counts of +6 and above. He was betting primarily 1 or 2 thousand per hand. Over that two week period he lost over $200,000. He said had it not been for early surrender his losses would have been over 30% more.
So he was talking about over a quarter of $1,000,000 without ES
Variance is a bitch
So he was talking about over a quarter of $1,000,000 without ES
Variance is a bitch
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:30:29 PM
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bigpete
You are correct, the only winners that Vegas likes is the once in a great while, really big payoff at the slots or keno because it makes good publicity for them. If you are at a blackjack table or some of the other quircky table game ....... they want all you've got. It has always been like that.
You are correct, the only winners that Vegas likes is the once in a great while, really big payoff at the slots or keno because it makes good publicity for them. If you are at a blackjack table or some of the other quircky table game ....... they want all you've got. It has always been like that.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:42:22 PM
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Quote: jjjooogggWell I have yet to see a long streak of positive. Ive played 1** hours. Dealer had a sarcastic look whe I almost tripled my money in half an hour. I used cover bets. Two dealers laughed at me while i went through a long streak of negative variance while I was betting my top bet. I left with a $265 loss. But i was up at least double. Someone here said that he/she heard dealers talk badly behind our backs during a break. Another place I kept winning and I felt that the dealer didnt like me. I tipped him and he didnt say thanks.
jjoooggg, I've mentioned this several times already, but at your betting levels, cover bets are going to cost you more than your expected win! You can't afford to make cover bets unless your units are much higher than what you are playing, based on your posts. A pro with a $100 unit can afford cover because his expected win is much higher, and at that level he will be watched much more closely. With a $5 or $10 or even $25 unit, it's just not worth it. Best to keep your sessions short and leave after one big bet cycle win or lose.
Tipping is also a killer for small-time players. If you don't know your estimated win rate per hour, figure it out, and then take that in to account if you insist upon tipping (I can understand those who must tip for moral reasons, even if I don't agree). If your win rate is $15/hour, and you're tipping 2 dealers a nickel chip after each of them finishes their shift, you've just eaten up 2/3rds of your expected win.
New counters often don't understand how small the margins are when you are counting. They are paper thin. You can't afford this kind of stuff or you will have no margin left and will always lose money. I won't repeat any of this to you because I've said it at least twice now. I wish you good cards and good variance.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
August 3rd, 2012 at 2:03:40 PM
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I just completed a Norwegian Cruise line cruise (NCL). I got barred from playing blackjack in their on-board casino about halfway through the cruise. They said I could play other casino games, but not blackjack.
Has anyone had a similar experience with NCL? I am wondering if I'll be allowed to play blackjack on a future NCL cruise.
Has anyone had a similar experience with NCL? I am wondering if I'll be allowed to play blackjack on a future NCL cruise.
August 3rd, 2012 at 2:10:12 PM
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File a complaint and ask for a refund.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
August 3rd, 2012 at 2:22:34 PM
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I briefly checked into it. They are a Bahamian flagged ship, but NCL has their headquarters in Miami. I don't want to waste a lot of time and $ to win some small amount of "damages" and attract a lot of attention to myself. I wouldn't really consider it winning if I spent 7 years in court and $100,000 in legal fees to win $10,000 in damages.
I just want to know if this has happened to anyone else. I like NCL (this was my first cruise on NCL) and I want to cruise with them again, but I'll be a lot less excited about it if I find out that I won't be able to play blackjack at their on-board casino.
I just want to know if this has happened to anyone else. I like NCL (this was my first cruise on NCL) and I want to cruise with them again, but I'll be a lot less excited about it if I find out that I won't be able to play blackjack at their on-board casino.
August 3rd, 2012 at 2:41:49 PM
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Quote: Wilma0I briefly checked into it. They are a Bahamian flagged ship, but NCL has their headquarters in Miami. I don't want to waste a lot of time and $ to win some small amount of "damages" and attract a lot of attention to myself. I wouldn't really consider it winning if I spent 7 years in court and $100,000 in legal fees to win $10,000 in damages.
I just want to know if this has happened to anyone else. I like NCL (this was my first cruise on NCL) and I want to cruise with them again, but I'll be a lot less excited about it if I find out that I won't be able to play blackjack at their on-board casino.
Right. I was thinking a complaint could generate a goodwill gesture on their end. If you took them to the cleaners then I guess all bets would be off so to speak.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
August 3rd, 2012 at 3:07:06 PM
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Quote: Wilma0I just want to know if this has happened to anyone else. I like NCL (this was my first cruise on NCL) and I want to cruise with them again, but I'll be a lot less excited about it if I find out that I won't be able to play blackjack at their on-board casino.
The Wizard actually had that happen to him, aboard an unspecified cruise line's ship off Mexico. There's a little bit about it (in response to a question from someone else who had it happen) in the third item on this page, but I know that I've seen him discuss it in more detail elsewhere. I recall his having mentioned that the suits had Googled his name and that had something to do with their decision.
August 4th, 2012 at 12:32:11 AM
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Hotel called me 9:30 am that i am not in the computer and security will kick me out. They made me move to another room. Technically they didnt apologize. I dont think it was because Im a counter. Although I made a few hundred. It reflects the mentality of hotel casinos. Ironically the pit bosses are so friendly and smile not like some dealers. I wonder how theyd treat me if they knew im counting. It seems like half the bosses and dealers suspect im a counter and think its cool.
Born in Texas and lived in Texas my whole life.
August 4th, 2012 at 1:26:17 AM
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Quote: duffytootxbigpete
You are correct, the only winners that Vegas likes is the once in a great while, really big payoff at the slots or keno because it makes good publicity for them. If you are at a blackjack table or some of the other quircky table game ....... they want all you've got. It has always been like that.
Let's just abbreviate this...
If you are
They want
All you got
But slowly. Just at a comfortable speed
that you can afford
to not stop yourself from trying again.
And again...
Only time I was 'kicked out' of a casino
was when I told a dealer at baccarat
he misdealt and he said he didn't and i insisted they stop and look.
I was right and they wanted to deal the discard in a dead hand to preserve the order of the cards.
I loudly proclaimed the shoe was busted and about six heavy hitters colored out and walked,
pit boss suggested i leave before he called security because I started laughing at him maniacally... Caesars
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
