MDawg Results Thread

Greetings!

This is a post to let everyone know that I have been asked, by someone who will not be disclosed, to go through MDawg's threads and detail gambling results from his posts. This project will take a little bit of time, so this will be done in increments; I actually wanted to just post it all at once, but was essentially asked to just kind of post them as I am going.

In any event, I will now state the following:

1.) I don't actually care about MDawg's results. I have no plans to offer any commentary or opinion of MDawg's results in this thread, or anywhere else.

2.) I am not doing this out of any kind of malice; someone specifically asked me to do this.

3.) I will not disclose who asked for this as it is protected under the Private Communications rule of the forum.

4.) Results will be presented as accurately as I can get them. Results aren't always specified with some, "About," terms, rather than an exact number. Additionally, trip totals will sometimes be highlighted if they disagree with individual session totals (for that trip) and trip totals will be used in running totals reporting, if applicable.

5.) I did have implied consent to share who is asking me to do this with one of the Admins; I have been given permission to undertake this project as it only contains what has already been posted by MDawg. For that reason, provided I make an attempt to report honestly, I have been assured no action will be taken against me.

6.) There will be tables of results followed by links (in order, relative to the table) and then added notes that clarify things, as needed.

7.) Generally, I will only use what has been posted on WoV; the only exception is if a WoV post represents a session/trip being reported on another forum.

That's all; thank you for your time. Other than the posting of results; I have no plans to participate in any discussion on this topic.

Here is the first set of results:

DATE	GAME	RESULT	TOTAL
11/5/19	Baccarat	$24000	Baccarat: $24000 Blackjack: - Total: $24000
11/21/19	Baccarat (Pictured)	$40000 (Pictured)	Baccarat-$64000 Blackjack- Total: $64000
11/23/19	Baccarat	$1-$2499-*1	Baccarat-$64,000 Blackjack- Total: $64,000
11/24/19-*2	Baccarat	$1,400	Baccarat-$65400 Blackjack- Total: $65400
11/25/19*3	Baccarat	$1,560	Baccarat-$66960 Blackjack- Total-$66960
11/26/19*4	Baccarat	$27000 (Trip)	Baccarat-$51,000 Blackjack- Total-$51,000
12/29/19	Blackjack	$0	Baccarat-$51,000 Blackjack-$0 Total-$51,000
12/30/19	Blackjack	$1,350	Baccarat-$51,000 Blackjack-$1,350 Total: $52,350
1/1/20	Blackjack	~$600-*5	Baccarat-$51,000 Blackjack-$1950 Total: $52,950
1/2/20	Blackjack	~$1,000-*6	Baccarat-$51,000 Blackjack-$2,350 Total: $53,350
1/4/20	Blackjack Baccarat	Blackjack-($5000) Baccarat-$5300	Baccart-$56300 Blackjack-($2650) Total: $53650
1/5/20	Baccarat	$710	Baccart-$57010 Blackjack-($2650) Total: $54360
1/6/20	Baccarat/Blackjack	$450 (Pictured—*8)	Baccarat-$57,460 Blackjack-($2650) Total-$54,810
1/7/20	Baccarat/Blackjack	$100—*9	Baccarat-$57,560 Blackjack-($2650) Total: $54,910
1/8/20	Baccarat	$6,100	Baccarat-$63,660 Blackjack-($2650) Total: $61,010
1/10/20	Baccarat	$1325	Baccarat-$64,985 Blackjack-($2650) Total: $62,335
1/11/20	Baccarat	$3500-*10	Baccarat-$68485 Blackjack-($2650) Total: $65,835

Links (In Order Pursuant to Above):

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/#post746035

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/3/#post747666

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/4/#post747796

https://www.truepassage.com/forums/showthread.php/11966-Wynn-Parlor-Suite

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/5/#post748023

https://www.truepassage.com/forums/showthread.php/11966-Wynn-Parlor-Suite/page2

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/10/#post751983

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/10/#post752105

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/12/#post752351

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/13/#post752541

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/14/#post752866

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/16/#post752982

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/17/#post753183

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/17/#post753324

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/18/#post753440

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/20/#post753844

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/21/#post754051

NOTES:

*1—In this post, MDawg stated he was ahead as much as $2,500 for the session. MDawg states that he did finish the session with a profit, but did not get back to +$2,500. This session is not included in the totals because he did not specify a profit amount.

*2—This post refers to the TruePassage Forum for sessions results, hence the link to TruePassage.

*3—This post refers to both the results for 11/25/19 and 11/24/19. In this post, MDawg states that he won $1,500 during the session on 11/24/19; this conflicts with the TruePassage reporting of +$1,400 linked above, but we are going to stay with the TruePassage reporting for totals. The TruePassage report also referred to +$1,300, but became $1,400 as MDawg found a stray $100 chip in his pocket. That being the case, it stands to reason that MDawg might have thought the $1,400 became $1,500; it’s an extremely minor discrepancy.

*4—Generally speaking, I will not be cross-referencing against TruePassage unless MDawg specifically does, but this TruePassage reporting refers to the same trip as was being reported on WoV. The TruePassage final trip report says that the total for the trip is $27,000, so the running total in the table above has been adjusted downward.

The discrepancy seems to come from the post where $40,000 in chips was pictured with MDawg implying that some, or all, of it was winnings and not just, “A pull against (his) line,” so I treated that all as winnings until it became clarified by the TruePassage trip final post.

There’s also nothing in the linked TruePassage thread that would suggest how much of the $40,000 pictured on Row 2 was profit. If we compare individual session results (that were specifically stated) to the final trip report, then over 20k of the 40k pictured seems to be profits.

Generally speaking, I will not be going through all of TruePassage for cross comparisons unless it is specifically referenced by MDawg.

*5—From this post, we know the game was Blackjack, but we were given a trip total rather than a session result. The total for the trip is, “Pushing two grand,” and the only other reported session was $1,350, so we’re just going to say it’s around +$600.

*6—Again, we don’t get a specific session result, but the post refers to the trip now being, “About three grand to the good,” so we’re going to call the session roughly +$1,000.

*7—This session is technically reported as a +$300 net finish, but $600-$700 in tips at the high-limit table (Baccarat) is also mentioned. For our purposes, we’re just going to use the +$300 net finish; the reason for this is because we’d have to guesstimate tips, otherwise.

*8—Pictured is $450, which is what MDawg said he was going to the cage to cash in profits. Again, the amounts in the table will ALWAYS ignore tipping and will only reference final total outcome; the reason why is it’s not feasible to standardize for tipping during those occasions where it is not mentioned. In any event, this superficially makes the running total less, according to the table, then it actually was. Also, no specific Blackjack result was given.

*9—No specific result given for Blackjack; final total applied to Baccarat of +$100.

*10—This was +$3,500 after tips.

NOTE: At this point, it appears that MDawg was suspended for two months, so this seems like a good time to take a break until I get to work on the next set of results. I could continue to do session reporting, I think, but I'd have to go to another site. We will see if he posts the daily results upon his return from the above-referenced suspension or an overall trip result from that trip.

If he does post an overall trip result from the NYE trip, then I can probably figure out the totals from that trip (as there is a large break between trips) and amend the running totals accordingly.

At this point, the tally seems to be +$68,485 at Baccarat ($2650) at Blackjack for a total of +$65,835 beginning with the start of the first Adventures of MDawg thread reporting.

(Note to Self: Continue on Page 22-first thread)

Just for the record it was not DarkOz who requested this of Mission.

This is not a retaliation for past challenges et al by me.

Quote: darkoz

Just for the record it was not DarkOz who requested this of Mission.

This is not a retaliation for past challenges et al by me.
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I'm not going to go through and individually confirm who didn't ask, but given previous seeming animosity between the two, I will confirm it was NOT DarkOz.

Well I publicly mentioned the idea of doing this as well, so if any flak is had for it, I'll take it. Of course it'd be easier if mdawg just posted his win loss statements year by year.

Quote: Mission146

11/5/19 Baccarat $24000 Baccarat: $24000
Blackjack: -
Total: $24000
11/21/19 Baccarat (Pictured) $40000 (Pictured) Baccarat-$64000
Blackjack-
Total: $64000
11/23/19 Baccarat $1-$2499-*1 Baccarat-$64,000
Blackjack-
Total: $64,000
11/24/19-*2 Baccarat $1,400 Baccarat-$65400
Blackjack-
Total: $65400
11/25/19*3 Baccarat $1,560 Baccarat-$66960
Blackjack-
Total-$66960
11/26/19*4 Baccarat $27000 (Trip) Baccarat-$51,000
Blackjack-
Total-$51,000

Is this a discrepancy? Chart shows winning total as of 11/25 $66,960. Then a trip win of $27,000 on 11/26, but the total dropped to $51,000. How does that work??

tuttigym

Mission has WAY too much time on his hands!
My guess is the final tally will be between 1 and 2 million dollars.

Quote: tuttigym

Quote: Mission146

11/5/19 Baccarat $24000 Baccarat: $24000
Blackjack: -
Total: $24000
11/21/19 Baccarat (Pictured) $40000 (Pictured) Baccarat-$64000
Blackjack-
Total: $64000
11/23/19 Baccarat $1-$2499-*1 Baccarat-$64,000
Blackjack-
Total: $64,000
11/24/19-*2 Baccarat $1,400 Baccarat-$65400
Blackjack-
Total: $65400
11/25/19*3 Baccarat $1,560 Baccarat-$66960
Blackjack-
Total-$66960
11/26/19*4 Baccarat $27000 (Trip) Baccarat-$51,000
Blackjack-
Total-$51,000

Is this a discrepancy? Chart shows winning total as of 11/25 $66,960. Then a trip win of $27,000 on 11/26, but the total dropped to $51,000. How does that work??

tuttigym
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Read the notes in the future.

On this occasion, there was a picture of $40,000 posted that implied that at least some was profits, but it didn’t specify how much. The running total was adjusted downward to reflect the trip total against that; I believe north of 20k of the 40k pictured should have been profits.

Edit to Add: I apologize for being snarky, but the point of making detailed notes is to not have to go back and figure out such discrepancies or to have to explain any more than once.

Quote: SOOPOO

Mission has WAY too much time on his hands!
My guess is the final tally will be between 1 and 2 million dollars.

Unless he is being compensated, I can not imagine why he would be doing this.

Quote: Mission146

I did have implied consent to share who is asking me to do this with one of the Admins
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So why not post the name of who it is? As long as it is not a nuked member your carrying out things at his behest would be fine. But why you'd do things at the behest of anyone, is probably something anyone would wonder about.

In any case, this thread is a waste of time because there were long periods when I was suspended and I was still in Vegas playing, and obviously not reporting at WOV.

If you think it is okay to re-post here what is posted on another forum, then let's just open the floodgates and allow the posting of anything that has been posted anywhere.  🥳

Otherwise, I'd actually appreciate what numbers you get because I won so much money that I lost track actually myself. The first couple years I kept a precise tally, but after the third year and that really long trip a few years ago I more or less relied on the WIN statements from the casinos.

What I always wanted? someone to count my money for me while I'm not gambling....



"I know what you're doing. You're counting that money. You're letting it roll through your fingers."

Quote: MDawg

Quote: Mission146

I did have implied consent to share who is asking me to do this with one of the Admins
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So why not post the name of who it is? As long as it is not a nuked member your carrying out things at his behest would be fine. But why you'd do things at the behest of anyone, is probably something anyone would wonder about.

In any case, this thread is a waste of time because there were long periods when I was suspended and I was still in Vegas playing, and obviously not reporting at WOV.

If you think it is okay to re-post here what is posted on another forum, then let's just open the floodgates and allow the posting of anything that has been posted anywhere.  🥳

Otherwise, I'd actually appreciate what numbers you get because I won so much money that I lost track actually myself. The first couple years I kept a precise tally, but after the third year and that really long trip I more or less relied on the WIN statements from the casinos.
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As stated, I already have clearance from Administration to carry this out precisely as I’ve been doing.

The only reason I included results from another forum is because your post here incorporated those results, by reference. If you don’t have any other posts here that do so, then no further reports from other forums will be included. It’s not as if I went looking for other forums; as mentioned, it was referenced in one of your posts.

The Administrator who I asked if I could do this is aware of who requested me to do this; therefore, they are already cleared, by Administration, to have made such a request. Honestly, I’m not sure why them being Nuked here would be relevant, but it’s sensible to assume that they’re not Nuked here.

The person who asked me to do this may reveal themselves if they wish; that’s not my choice to make.

Any trips/bans for which there is no reporting here (or incorporation by reference to other forums) will simply not be reported by me; obviously, there is the potential for gambling that you didn’t provide results for anywhere and I’d obviously have no way of knowing those results. I don’t think this is meant to be a comprehensive look into your lifetime of results, but rather, just those you reported here (or elsewhere, if incorporated here by reference.)

My reason for doing this is because I was asked to; I don’t personally care about these results at all. I also don’t care why the person who asked me to do this wants this information, didn’t ask and would prefer not to know; it’s really none of my concern. I believe I was asked to do this because of the requester’s perception of my impartiality.

Well, given that Mental left the forum after his goodbye and suddenly returned today.

Quote: Mental

I feel the need to unsubscribe from my own thread for now. Y'all have fun.
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I'd vote that it's Mental.

His goodbye reminded me of the "I'm trying to make a point here" exit at the end of Updike's A&P.

The girls, and who'd blame them, are in a hurry to get out, so I say "I quit" to
Lengel quick enough for them to hear, hoping they'll stop and watch me, their
unsuspected hero. They keep right on going, into the electric eye; the door flies
open and they flicker across the lot to their car, Queenie and Plaid and Big Tall
Goony-Goony (not that as raw material she was so bad), leaving me with Lengel
and a kink in his eyebrow.

"Did you say something, Sammy?"

"I said I quit."

"I thought you did."

"You didn't have to embarrass them."

"It was they who were embarrassing us."

I started to say something that came out "Fiddle-de-doo." It's a saying of my
grandmother's, and I know she would have been pleased.

"I don't think you know what you're saying," Lengel said.

"I know you don't," I said. "But I do." I pull the bow at the back of my apron and
start shrugging it off my shoulders. A couple customers that had been heading
for my slot begin to knock against each other, like scared pigs in a chute.

Lengel sighs and begins to look very patient and old and gray. He's been a friend
of my parents for years. "Sammy, you don't want to do this to your Mom and
Dad," he tells me. It's true, I don't. But it seems to me that once you begin a
gesture it's fatal not to go through with it. I fold the apron, "Sammy" stitched in
red on the pocket, and put it on the counter, and drop the bow tie on top of it.
The bow tie is theirs, if you've ever wondered. "You'll feel this for the rest of
your life," Lengel says, and I know that's true, too, but remembering how he
made that pretty girl blush makes me so scrunchy inside I punch the No Sale tab
and the machine whirs "pee-pul" and the drawer splats out. One advantage to this
scene taking place in summer, I can follow this up with a clean exit, there's no
fumbling around getting your coat and galoshes, I just saunter into the electric
eye in my white shirt that my mother ironed the night before, and the door
heaves itself open, and outside the sunshine is skating around on the asphalt.

I look around for my girls, but they're gone, of course. There wasn't anybody but
some young married screaming with her children about some candy they didn't
get by the door of a powder-blue Falcon station wagon. Looking back in the big
windows, over the bags of peat moss and aluminum lawn furniture stacked on
the pavement, I could see Lengel in my place in the slot, checking the sheep
through. His face was dark gray and his back stiff, as if he'd just had an injection
of iron, and my stomach kind of fell as I felt how hard the world was going to be
to me hereafter.

So I'd say that his return, and his questions about my winning ways priors to his departure, would seem to make sense that it is Mental. I suppose I should be honored that he returned just for something to do with me.

What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is why anyone would not just come right out and say Hey, I'm the one who asked Mission146 to do this. What's the big deal, why the secret? I mean if it's important enough for Mission146 to spend all this time on (and it is important, we're talking about money here), then why not be up front about it and take credit for directing him to do this.

Quote: Mission146

I'm not going to go through and individually confirm who didn't ask, but given previous seeming animosity between the two, I will confirm it was NOT DarkOz.
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I recently laid two heavy complimentary posts on D.Oz there is no animosity.

But in any case, why should it be assumed that this study of MDawg is anything other than an exercise in flattery and basic math (addition and subtraction).

Quote: MDawg

Well, given that Mental left the forum after his goodbye and suddenly returned today.

Quote: Mental

I feel the need to unsubscribe from my own thread for now. Y'all have fun.
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I'd vote that it's Mental.

His goodbye reminded me of the "I'm trying to make a point here" exit at the end of Updike's A&P.

The girls, and who'd blame them, are in a hurry to get out, so I say "I quit" to
Lengel quick enough for them to hear, hoping they'll stop and watch me, their
unsuspected hero. They keep right on going, into the electric eye; the door flies
open and they flicker across the lot to their car, Queenie and Plaid and Big Tall
Goony-Goony (not that as raw material she was so bad), leaving me with Lengel
and a kink in his eyebrow.

"Did you say something, Sammy?"

"I said I quit."

"I thought you did."

"You didn't have to embarrass them."

"It was they who were embarrassing us."

I started to say something that came out "Fiddle-de-doo." It's a saying of my
grandmother's, and I know she would have been pleased.

"I don't think you know what you're saying," Lengel said.

"I know you don't," I said. "But I do." I pull the bow at the back of my apron and
start shrugging it off my shoulders. A couple customers that had been heading
for my slot begin to knock against each other, like scared pigs in a chute.

Lengel sighs and begins to look very patient and old and gray. He's been a friend
of my parents for years. "Sammy, you don't want to do this to your Mom and
Dad," he tells me. It's true, I don't. But it seems to me that once you begin a
gesture it's fatal not to go through with it. I fold the apron, "Sammy" stitched in
red on the pocket, and put it on the counter, and drop the bow tie on top of it.
The bow tie is theirs, if you've ever wondered. "You'll feel this for the rest of
your life," Lengel says, and I know that's true, too, but remembering how he
made that pretty girl blush makes me so scrunchy inside I punch the No Sale tab
and the machine whirs "pee-pul" and the drawer splats out. One advantage to this
scene taking place in summer, I can follow this up with a clean exit, there's no
fumbling around getting your coat and galoshes, I just saunter into the electric
eye in my white shirt that my mother ironed the night before, and the door
heaves itself open, and outside the sunshine is skating around on the asphalt.

I look around for my girls, but they're gone, of course. There wasn't anybody but
some young married screaming with her children about some candy they didn't
get by the door of a powder-blue Falcon station wagon. Looking back in the big
windows, over the bags of peat moss and aluminum lawn furniture stacked on
the pavement, I could see Lengel in my place in the slot, checking the sheep
through. His face was dark gray and his back stiff, as if he'd just had an injection
of iron, and my stomach kind of fell as I felt how hard the world was going to be
to me hereafter.

So I'd say that his return, and his questions about my winning ways priors to his departure, would seem to make sense that it is Mental. I suppose I should be honored that he returned just for something to do with me.

What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is why anyone would not just come right out and say Hey, I'm the one who asked Mission146 to do this. What's the big deal, why the secret? I mean if it's important enough for Mission146 to spend all this time on (and it is important, we're talking about money here), then why not be up front about it and take credit for directing him to do this.
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I think whoever it is is enjoying watching you squirm through a million word post to basically beg to find out who it is.

I will admit I’m quite interested in the total. But I do think it is quite petty to make an entire thread on the subject. I think you’d have to pay me 4 figures at least to do the task Mission is doing.

I do think that Mental would be the favorite. Axel would be second choice. If I didn’t know it wasn’t me I’d have made me 3rd choice. PokerGrinder would be 4th. LilRed 5th.

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: MDawg

Well, given that Mental left the forum after his goodbye and suddenly returned today.

Quote: Mental

I feel the need to unsubscribe from my own thread for now. Y'all have fun.
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I'd vote that it's Mental.

His goodbye reminded me of the "I'm trying to make a point here" exit at the end of Updike's A&P.

The girls, and who'd blame them, are in a hurry to get out, so I say "I quit" to
Lengel quick enough for them to hear, hoping they'll stop and watch me, their
unsuspected hero. They keep right on going, into the electric eye; the door flies
open and they flicker across the lot to their car, Queenie and Plaid and Big Tall
Goony-Goony (not that as raw material she was so bad), leaving me with Lengel
and a kink in his eyebrow.

"Did you say something, Sammy?"

"I said I quit."

"I thought you did."

"You didn't have to embarrass them."

"It was they who were embarrassing us."

I started to say something that came out "Fiddle-de-doo." It's a saying of my
grandmother's, and I know she would have been pleased.

"I don't think you know what you're saying," Lengel said.

"I know you don't," I said. "But I do." I pull the bow at the back of my apron and
start shrugging it off my shoulders. A couple customers that had been heading
for my slot begin to knock against each other, like scared pigs in a chute.

Lengel sighs and begins to look very patient and old and gray. He's been a friend
of my parents for years. "Sammy, you don't want to do this to your Mom and
Dad," he tells me. It's true, I don't. But it seems to me that once you begin a
gesture it's fatal not to go through with it. I fold the apron, "Sammy" stitched in
red on the pocket, and put it on the counter, and drop the bow tie on top of it.
The bow tie is theirs, if you've ever wondered. "You'll feel this for the rest of
your life," Lengel says, and I know that's true, too, but remembering how he
made that pretty girl blush makes me so scrunchy inside I punch the No Sale tab
and the machine whirs "pee-pul" and the drawer splats out. One advantage to this
scene taking place in summer, I can follow this up with a clean exit, there's no
fumbling around getting your coat and galoshes, I just saunter into the electric
eye in my white shirt that my mother ironed the night before, and the door
heaves itself open, and outside the sunshine is skating around on the asphalt.

I look around for my girls, but they're gone, of course. There wasn't anybody but
some young married screaming with her children about some candy they didn't
get by the door of a powder-blue Falcon station wagon. Looking back in the big
windows, over the bags of peat moss and aluminum lawn furniture stacked on
the pavement, I could see Lengel in my place in the slot, checking the sheep
through. His face was dark gray and his back stiff, as if he'd just had an injection
of iron, and my stomach kind of fell as I felt how hard the world was going to be
to me hereafter.

So I'd say that his return, and his questions about my winning ways priors to his departure, would seem to make sense that it is Mental. I suppose I should be honored that he returned just for something to do with me.

What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is why anyone would not just come right out and say Hey, I'm the one who asked Mission146 to do this. What's the big deal, why the secret? I mean if it's important enough for Mission146 to spend all this time on (and it is important, we're talking about money here), then why not be up front about it and take credit for directing him to do this.
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I think whoever it is is enjoying watching you squirm through a million word post to basically beg to find out who it is.

I will admit I’m quite interested in the total. But I do think it is quite petty to make an entire thread on the subject. I think you’d have to pay me 4 figures at least to do the task Mission is doing.

I do think that Mental would be the favorite. Axel would be second choice. If I didn’t know it wasn’t me I’d have made me 3rd choice. PokerGrinder would be 4th. LilRed 5th.
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I’ve had every mdog thread blocked for many years so I have no idea what he posts, not I said the cat.

PokerGrinder reads every word I post and always will!

(i.e. flattery will get you nowhere)

Quote: SOOPOO

I do think that Mental would be the favorite. Axel would be second choice. If I didn’t know it wasn’t me I’d have made me 3rd choice. PokerGrinder would be 4th. LilRed 5th.
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The question is not who directed Mission146 to add up what is already public knowledge, but why he's afraid or embarrassed to reveal who he is.

C'mon, show us who loves MDawg the most! Nothing to be ashamed of.

Quote: SOOPOO

If I didn’t know it wasn’t me I’d have made me 3rd choice.

No way it could be you because you're too frugal to pay Mission146 a nickel for doing all this work.

Quote: MDawg

Quote: SOOPOO

If I didn’t know it wasn’t me I’d have made me 3rd choice.

No way it could be you because you're too frugal to pay Mission146 a nickel for doing all this work.
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You are correct that I wouldn’t pay Mission to do this. Frankly, I wouldn’t want anyone to bother to do it, as it must be a multi day task. Mission can answer, but I don’t think he’s being paid for this at all.

Well if Mission146's not being paid, that makes two lifetime members of the Honorary & Official MDawg Adventures Club. The other being whoever directed him to do all this work.

Quote: MDawg

The question is not who directed Mission146 to add up what is already public knowledge, but why he's afraid or embarrassed to reveal who he is.
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Quote: MDawg

PokerGrinder reads every word I post and always will!

(i.e. flattery will get you nowhere)
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Whatever gets you off man, I didn’t know it was possible for someone to think that highly of himself.

Sounds like Mdawg is happy someone is adding up all his wins and losses. :)

Quote: MDawg

Quote: SOOPOO

I do think that Mental would be the favorite. Axel would be second choice. If I didn’t know it wasn’t me I’d have made me 3rd choice. PokerGrinder would be 4th. LilRed 5th.
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The question is not who directed Mission146 to add up what is already public knowledge, but why he's afraid or embarrassed to reveal who he is.

C'mon, show us who loves MDawg the most! Nothing to be ashamed of.

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I’m neither afraid nor embarrassed; I was asked to do this privately. Therefore, I can’t reveal it myself pursuant to the Private Communications rule; do you want me to get banned?

I also resent the implication that I’m afraid or embarrassed; I’m just following forum rules; I already explained this once.

Quote: Mission146

Quote: MDawg

Quote: SOOPOO

I do think that Mental would be the favorite. Axel would be second choice. If I didn’t know it wasn’t me I’d have made me 3rd choice. PokerGrinder would be 4th. LilRed 5th.
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The question is not who directed Mission146 to add up what is already public knowledge, but why he's afraid or embarrassed to reveal who he is.

C'mon, show us who loves MDawg the most! Nothing to be ashamed of.

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I’m neither afraid nor embarrassed; I was asked to do this privately. Therefore, I can’t reveal it myself pursuant to the Private Communications rule; do you want me to get banned?

I also resent the implication that I’m afraid or embarrassed; I’m just following forum rules; I already explained this once.
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Yes, calling you afraid and embarrassed was a clear insult. I just think you are bonkers for putting in that much time to do this. As I’m enjoying this, and truly am interested in the result, I will say thank you.

(Rereading post, maybe BigDawg was NOT calling YOU embarrassed and afraid, but referring to the anonymous guy or gal?).

Mission, are you counting the hundreds of thousands of dollars of gift cards in your talley? They are specifically mentioned.

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: Mission146

Quote: MDawg

Quote: SOOPOO

I do think that Mental would be the favorite. Axel would be second choice. If I didn’t know it wasn’t me I’d have made me 3rd choice. PokerGrinder would be 4th. LilRed 5th.
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The question is not who directed Mission146 to add up what is already public knowledge, but why he's afraid or embarrassed to reveal who he is.

C'mon, show us who loves MDawg the most! Nothing to be ashamed of.

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I’m neither afraid nor embarrassed; I was asked to do this privately. Therefore, I can’t reveal it myself pursuant to the Private Communications rule; do you want me to get banned?

I also resent the implication that I’m afraid or embarrassed; I’m just following forum rules; I already explained this once.
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Yes, calling you afraid and embarrassed was a clear insult. I just think you are bonkers for putting in that much time to do this. As I’m enjoying this, and truly am interested in the result, I will say thank you.

(Rereading post, maybe BigDawg was NOT calling YOU embarrassed and afraid, but referring to the anonymous guy or gal?).

Mission, are you counting the hundreds of thousands of dollars of gift cards in your talley? They are specifically mentioned.
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I think it would be only fair for MDawg to pay Mission 1% of the gambling winnings for all of his effort.

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: Mission146

Quote: MDawg

Quote: SOOPOO

I do think that Mental would be the favorite. Axel would be second choice. If I didn’t know it wasn’t me I’d have made me 3rd choice. PokerGrinder would be 4th. LilRed 5th.
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The question is not who directed Mission146 to add up what is already public knowledge, but why he's afraid or embarrassed to reveal who he is.

C'mon, show us who loves MDawg the most! Nothing to be ashamed of.

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I’m neither afraid nor embarrassed; I was asked to do this privately. Therefore, I can’t reveal it myself pursuant to the Private Communications rule; do you want me to get banned?

I also resent the implication that I’m afraid or embarrassed; I’m just following forum rules; I already explained this once.
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Yes, calling you afraid and embarrassed was a clear insult. I just think you are bonkers for putting in that much time to do this. As I’m enjoying this, and truly am interested in the result, I will say thank you.

(Rereading post, maybe BigDawg was NOT calling YOU embarrassed and afraid, but referring to the anonymous guy or gal?).

Mission, are you counting the hundreds of thousands of dollars of gift cards in your talley? They are specifically mentioned.
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Re-reading it, MDawg could have either been referring to me or that person. I took it as him referring to me as he said, “…reveal who he is,” rather than, “…reveal himself.”

The sentence can be read either way; perhaps MDawg will clarify that he wasn’t referring to me as I’m just following a clear forum rule.

If I was getting paid, or how much, would also be confidential and protected by the private communications rule. If the person who asked me to do this reveals themselves, then they might or might not want it known if I was paid, or if so, how much. For that reason, I’d have to have that person’s permission to discuss anything along those lines.

Actually, paid or not paid is very black and white. There could be a quid pro quo arrangement wherein they’ve asked me for this favor and they’re going to do a favor of value for me. I’ve never taken money, on direct, to do gambling math (articles aside) I don’t believe…though I guess this is different than doing an actual analysis of a game or promotion…so I’d still have my clean record there.

The gift cards are not session results; I wasn’t asked to tally up gift cards at all. I assume the person who asked me to do this is reading the thread, if not already commenting in it, so they can reach out if they want me to pay attention for mentions of gift cards; I certainly haven’t been so far.

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I was the one who asked Wizard to ask Mission if he was willing to do this
I thought to see all the results - the ratio of wins to losses would be very interesting for various and obvious reasons
as well as the total amount of wins compared to the total amount of losses
I asked Wizard to comment when all of the results are posted

of course, it's up to him whether he decides to comment or not

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I was the one who asked Wizard to ask Mission if he was willing to do this
I thought to see all the results - the ratio of wins to losses would be very interesting for various and obvious reasons
as well as the total amount of wins compared to the total amount of losses
I asked Wizard to comment when all of the results are posted

of course, it's up to him whether he decides to comment or not

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So you did not ask Mission directly? I thought Mission wrote that you asked him?

Anyway, honest answer. It doesn’t seem like you are embarrassed nor afraid.

I am interested too. I don’t post my session reports more out of ‘who the eff would care’ but I did lose around $130 last trip. My trip reports generally will equal MDawg’s first bet results!

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: lilredrooster

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I was the one who asked Wizard to ask Mission if he was willing to do this
I thought to see all the results - the ratio of wins to losses would be very interesting for various and obvious reasons
as well as the total amount of wins compared to the total amount of losses
I asked Wizard to comment when all of the results are posted

of course, it's up to him whether he decides to comment or not

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So you did not ask Mission directly? I thought Mission wrote that you asked him?

Anyway, honest answer. It doesn’t seem like you are embarrassed nor afraid.

I am interested too. I don’t post my session reports more out of ‘who the eff would care’ but I did lose around $130 last trip. My trip reports generally will equal MDawg’s first bet results!
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I am neither embarrassed or afraid
I would have responded earlier - I posted about 10 minutes after I saw Mission's thread on the subject - I don't follow the forum throughout the day
I suggested that Wizard ask Mission to consider it if he felt that was appropriate
I guess Mission may have interpreted that as me asking him directly - not a big issue imo

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Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: lilredrooster

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I was the one who asked Wizard to ask Mission if he was willing to do this
I thought to see all the results - the ratio of wins to losses would be very interesting for various and obvious reasons
as well as the total amount of wins compared to the total amount of losses
I asked Wizard to comment when all of the results are posted

of course, it's up to him whether he decides to comment or not

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So you did not ask Mission directly? I thought Mission wrote that you asked him?

Anyway, honest answer. It doesn’t seem like you are embarrassed nor afraid.

I am interested too. I don’t post my session reports more out of ‘who the eff would care’ but I did lose around $130 last trip. My trip reports generally will equal MDawg’s first bet results!
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No, this is the first I'm hearing about LilRedRooster having anything to do with anything; I neither confirm nor deny that Wizard was the one who asked me to do this.

In any event, I'm going to get back to it. For my ease, I think I'm going to have each post consist of fifteen listings; that way, I can copy and paste blank tables to different documents (on my end) and don't have to do the formatting every time. I could have them all be on the same document but that would make the document become long and difficult to deal with.

I didn't write that LRR asked me; I wrote that someone asked me. Certainly, I didn't decide to do this of my own accord as I have no interest in MDawg's results, which I have already stated.

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I am very sorry if I betrayed a confidence in mentioning Wizard as we exchanged PMs
I didn't think about that when I posted
maybe I deserve to be suspended - and I will accept that if deemed so
if I am suspended I hope it won't be for a long time - as I do enjoy this forum
again, my apologies to Wizard

on a side note:

one of the very interesting things about MDawg's claims is that even while he seems to be crushing casinos left and right that hasn't stopped them from continuously bestowing high dollar comps to him

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Quote: Nathan

Sounds like Mdawg is happy someone is adding up all his wins and losses. :)
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Absolutely. They’re all public record anyway.

And I guess lilredrooster has finally come out of the closet and declared himself an official member of the MDawg Adventures Club. I haven’t played since last year so obviously all this has been building up in him for months until it finally just had to manifest itself.

Quote: MDawg

Well if Mission146's not being paid, that makes two lifetime members of the Honorary & Official MDawg Adventures Club. The other being whoever directed him to do all this work.

Quote: MDawg

The question is not who directed Mission146 to add up what is already public knowledge, but why he's afraid or embarrassed to reveal who he is.
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Mission146 your ability to tally my results accurately comes into question if you misunderstood the plain English of what I wrote. Precision in reading is needed here if you’re up for this task.

Quote: lilredrooster

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I am very sorry if I betrayed a confidence in mentioning Wizard as we exchanged PMs
I didn't think about that when I posted
maybe I deserve to be suspended - and I will accept that if deemed so
again, my apologies to Wizard

on a side note:

one of the very interesting things about MDawg's claims is that even while he seems to be crushing casinos left and right that hasn't stopped them from continuously bestowing high dollar comps to him

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As MDawg has mentioned, most of us really don’t know the ins and outs of what happens on the high $$$ side of gambling. As I’ve mentioned in my Sports Betting thread, I’m on a continual up trend on 5 different sites. Not nearly the $ figures MDawg mentions but still ‘real money’. I am stunned I keep getting the same offers to take advantage of.
The recent BetMGM offer to me was a great example. Deposit $50 to get a free $50. I can see this (possibly?) making sense if offered to a player who has almost no $ in his account. But I had X,XXX in my account. Another $50 could not in any way change my betting pattern.
So why can’t that type of stupidity not occur at the higher limit tables? It’s too bad (to my knowledge) we’ve never had a host here who could answer some of these questions. I know we’ve had pit bosses/dealers but I don think they’ve chimed in.

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to further clarify why I revealed what I did -
when it became an issue -
I didn't think it was fair to others who were being speculated about

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Quote: MDawg

Quote: Nathan

Sounds like Mdawg is happy someone is adding up all his wins and losses. :)
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Absolutely. They’re all public record anyway.

And I guess lilredrooster has finally come out of the closet and declared himself an official member of the MDawg Adventures Club. I haven’t played since last year so obviously all this has been building up in him for months until it finally just had to manifest itself.

Quote: MDawg

Well if Mission146's not being paid, that makes two lifetime members of the Honorary & Official MDawg Adventures Club. The other being whoever directed him to do all this work.

Quote: MDawg

The question is not who directed Mission146 to add up what is already public knowledge, but why he's afraid or embarrassed to reveal who he is.
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Mission146 your ability to tally my results accurately comes into question if you misunderstood the plain English of what I wrote. Precision in reading is needed here if you’re up for this task.
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Speak more clearly next time. Also, you insulted LilRedRooster; you just didn't know who you were insulting when you did it.

I also want you to know your 'Adventures' thread is the most God forsaken boring thread I've ever had the displeasure of reading in my entire life; it's no wonder I mostly ignored it. In fairness, how boring this is isn't entirely the fault of your posts; the petty back and forth with other posters (which they are at least half responsible for) also drags it way down.

Quote: lilredrooster

to further clarify why I revealed what I did -
when it became an issue -
I didn't think it was fair to others who were being speculated about
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Why not stick to the story of that you were going to disclose but just hadn’t yet versus this new story about that you felt compelled to disclose and only then did “when it became an issue.”

Quote: lilredrooster

I would have responded earlier - I posted about 10 minutes after I saw Mission's thread on the subject - I don't follow the forum throughout the day
I suggested that Wizard ask Mission to consider it if he felt that was appropriate
I guess Mission may have interpreted that as me asking him directly - not a big issue imo
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Mission146 is saying he never knew you had anything to do with it so when or how did he interpret this as your asking directly if you never asked him directly?

He's suggesting that he thought Wizard might have informed me that LRR asked Wizard to ask me. I also don't confirm or deny that Wizard asked me.

And, you think I have problems with reading comprehension.

Quote: MDawg

Quote: lilredrooster

to further clarify why I revealed what I did -
when it became an issue -
I didn't think it was fair to others who were being speculated about
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Why not stick to the story of that you were going to disclose but just hadn’t yet versus this new story about that you felt compelled to disclose and only then did “when it became an issue.”

Quote: lilredrooster

I would have responded earlier - I posted about 10 minutes after I saw Mission's thread on the subject - I don't follow the forum throughout the day
I suggested that Wizard ask Mission to consider it if he felt that was appropriate
I guess Mission may have interpreted that as me asking him directly - not a big issue imo
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Mission146 is saying he never knew you had anything to do with it so when or how did he interpret this as your asking directly if you never asked him directly?
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You’re joking, right? LilRed says he asked Wizard. Mission says someone asked him. It wasn’t LilRed who directly asked Mission. You can’t put those dots together?

Quote: Mission146

I also want you to know your 'Adventures' thread is the most God forsaken boring thread I've ever had the displeasure of reading in my entire life; it's no wonder I mostly ignored it. In fairness, how boring this is isn't entirely the fault of your posts; the petty back and forth with other posters (which they are at least half responsible for) also drags it way down.
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Mission146 why don’t you get back to your unpaid self imposed hell then if you don’t like reading my thread. I’m happy that you’re such a big fan that you’re putting in all those days hours in tireless support of adding up all my wins and losses for me.

At least have the dignity not to complain if you’re doing this without getting paid.

Quote: MDawg

Mission146 is saying he never knew you had anything to do with it so when or how did he interpret this as your asking directly if you never asked him directly?
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I don't believe Mission indicated that he interpreted this as me asking him directly - he correctly posted that I did not contact him directly

I have no other comment - this is not a great big issue imo - I asked - I'm not ashamed or embarrassed as you suggested -

you seem to be enjoying it - as indicated by your response to Nathan at 6:45 a.m. - even though you suggested some others who are not in your fan club

maybe you should thank me____________?

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Quote: MDawg

Mission146 why don’t you get back to your unpaid self imposed hell then if you don’t like reading my thread. Im happy that you’re such a big fan that you’re putting all those days hours in tireless support of adding up all my wins and losses for me.
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I take being called a fan of MDawg as a personal insult and demand action be taken.

Quote: Mission146

Quote: MDawg

Mission146 why don’t you get back to your unpaid self imposed hell then if you don’t like reading my thread. Im happy that you’re such a big fan that you’re putting all those days hours in tireless support of adding up all my wins and losses for me.
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I take being called a fan of MDawg as a personal insult and demand action be taken.
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At best, this is trolling.

This entire thread is a troll you created. But - I’m happy you’re doing it so please carry on.

All of my posts are public record adding them up is not going to reveal anything that isn’t there.

Your interpretation of what is an insult and what is not has been rather off of late. It’s a glorious thing to be willing to devote so many days and hours to the pursuit of MDawg truth.

You started this thread now you’re suggesting no one may be allowed to comment on your motives. Wonderful. My belief is that your doing it gratuit shows devotion to the MDawg cause.

MDawg, why don't you make a small table that shows the years 2019-2023 and what your records of Casino Win/Loss Statements total up to yearly? Maybe you can get some cell phone photos from your TV of the statements to cut down on the disbelief. If that's too factual, Mission should carry on.
If you won't put up video, can you put up a table?

I posted actual video of those me logged into my casino player card accounts and navigating the pages and they corroborated almost exactly to the total year end sums I claimed. The videos were up for a couple years until people started using them to try to track me down so I left them up but made them private accessible only.

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now MDawg trolls Mission even though (again) in response to Nathan suggesting he was happy about it in his post at 6:45 a.m. he responded 𝙖𝙗𝙨𝙤𝙡𝙪𝙩𝙚𝙡𝙮

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Quote: MDawg

This entire thread is a troll you created. But - I’m happy you’re doing it so please carry on.

All of my posts are public record adding them up is not going to reveal anything that isn’t there.

Your interpretation of what is an insult and what is not has been rather off of late. It’s a glorious thing to be willing to devote so many days and hours to the pursuit of MDawg truth.

You started this thread now you’re suggesting no one may be allowed to comment on your motives. Wonderful.
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The entire thread can't possibly be trolling because I had permission from an Administrator to create it. Again, I have no idea why the person who asked me to do this asked me to do this and also don't care.

I don't have any motives other than this was requested of me. Someone asked me to do it and I agreed to do it; that's all.

I also don't understand what you're worried about and find what you have to say in this thread both odd and unexpected. You created threads to detail your adventures and now there has been another thread created that is summarizing your adventures, in terms of results, since the start of your first adventures thread.

Actually, I was just reading a post about a six-figure trip win in which you had no losing sessions for the trip, but that won't be included because it seems to predate the creation of the thread and wasn't referenced in the OP of your 'Adventures' thread. In fact, it might predate you posting here.

As far as being a, 'Fan,' of yours, that's an insult of the highest and most ridiculous order. Prior to that post, I would have said that, "I consider MDawg a casual acquaintance and believe that he and I would have a good time if we did dinner and discussed music." Obviously, if you're going to refer to me as a, 'Fan,' of yours, I have no desire to ever meet you at any point in my entire life.

Quote: MDawg

This entire thread is a troll you created. But - I’m happy you’re doing it so please carry on.

All of my posts are public record adding them up is not going to reveal anything that isn’t there.

Your interpretation of what is an insult and what is not has been rather off of late. It’s a glorious thing to be willing to devote so many days and hours to the pursuit of MDawg truth.

You started this thread now you’re suggesting no one may be allowed to comment on your motives. Wonderful. My belief is that your doing it gratuit shows devotion to the MDawg cause.
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It’s not a troll thread at all! I’ve always been fascinated at the $$ amounts you bet and presumably win. I would love to know the ballpark yearly take you claim. I think you could put this thread to bed if you just said ‘$700k 2019, $800k 2020, etc. Since you already posted a gazillion session reports it’s out there already. Mission is just doing the TEDIOUS work. I’m unhappy he’s not adding up all the ‘real money’ gift cards. To me, if I was getting them, I’d DEFINITELY include them in my gambling winnings.

Kind of like how I include the $50 I mentioned in my ‘gambling winnings’ even though no direct bet was involved.

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: MDawg

This entire thread is a troll you created. But - I’m happy you’re doing it so please carry on.

All of my posts are public record adding them up is not going to reveal anything that isn’t there.

Your interpretation of what is an insult and what is not has been rather off of late. It’s a glorious thing to be willing to devote so many days and hours to the pursuit of MDawg truth.

You started this thread now you’re suggesting no one may be allowed to comment on your motives. Wonderful. My belief is that your doing it gratuit shows devotion to the MDawg cause.
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It’s not a troll thread at all! I’ve always been fascinated at the $$ amounts you bet and presumably win. I would love to know the ballpark yearly take you claim. I think you could put this thread to bed if you just said ‘$700k 2019, $800k 2020, etc. Since you already posted a gazillion session reports it’s out there already. Mission is just doing the TEDIOUS work. I’m unhappy he’s not adding up all the ‘real money’ gift cards. To me, if I was getting them, I’d DEFINITELY include them in my gambling winnings.
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I'm doing this the way that I was asked to do it.

Another thing that I should add is that MDawg could, in theory, be including gift card values in his trip winnings, or he might not, or he could sometimes be but other times not be; I really don't have any way of knowing.

Sounds like what I heard Bono talking about on the U2 Channel the other night. He can tolerate fans, but not much else.