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December 6th, 2017 at 8:38:06 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Just like that, open the floodgates for all banned members to return? Even the ones who possibly threatened The Wizard, people who have and continue to say horrible things about him, people who have not paid their debts or even worse?

What about people who had multiple chances and still proved they couldn't conduct themselves?

It wouldn't make any difference to me, but If I'm in The Wizards position, I just couldn't come up with a good reason why doing that is a good idea. I guess it would add more posts and views to the WOV forum.



I see it this way, Let them in if they so much as sneeze they get hit with the nuke hammer
This way those who have repented can come back contribute make the forum bigger
and better.

Its so easy to kick their asses back out, open the damn door lets see what happens
we'll call it an experiment. The cream will rise to the top and the crap will get re-kicked
out.

As far as threats and crap I really don't see how one can take what I have seen here
to seriously for Christ sake I think the worst one came from a geriatric drunk dude.

I see this as an AP, I see short term negative variance and long term positive.
Also if wizard should do this he will be walking in the foot steps of Hey Zeus
and will find himself standing upon righteous ground which is euphoric and
powerful.
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December 6th, 2017 at 8:48:19 PM permalink
The chances of a pardon for all banned members is about the same as rolling 18 yo's in a row in craps.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
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December 6th, 2017 at 9:01:14 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

I see it this way, Let them in if they so much as sneeze they get hit with the nuke hammer
This way those who have repented can come back contribute make the forum bigger
and better.

Its so easy to kick their asses back out, open the damn door lets see what happens
we'll call it an experiment. The cream will rise to the top and the crap will get re-kicked
out.

As far as threats and crap I really don't see how one can take what I have seen here
to seriously for Christ sake I think the worst one came from a geriatric drunk dude.

I see this as an AP, I see short term negative variance and long term positive.
Also if wizard should do this he will be walking in the foot steps of Hey Zeus
and will find himself standing upon righteous ground which is euphoric and
powerful.

You would have to go read some of the other various gambling forums, it can get very nasty. Feel free to PM me, I'll send you a link. I know this forum isn't supposed to take into account what people say on other forums, but it's hard to ignore if it's directed at you, the forum you represent and the forum's Mods. It goes to show why they were banned in the first place(I'm not talking about everyone that was ever banned). I would say, this is a situation where it would be better to pick and chose who you want back.

It would be taken as a sign of weakness. I can just hear it now from some of the banned members, "we told you so, the site was dying and needed us to survive"
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 6th, 2017 at 9:02:30 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The chances of a pardon for all banned members is about the same as rolling 18 yo's in a row in craps.



So you mean there is a chance?
I suspect if you pardoned them all and gave them a clean slate they'd end up nuked all over again.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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December 6th, 2017 at 10:19:45 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

He's out for life because he told a mod to jump off a cliff, among other things, even after he was warned by Babs.

Btw, you know who else is a great contributor to these forums? MICHAEL F#+@ING SHACKLEFORD!!!



Yeah yeah is Kylie Jenner pregnant or not ?
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December 7th, 2017 at 11:20:17 AM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

Btw, you know who else is a great contributor to these forums? MICHAEL F#+@ING SHACKLEFORD!!!



Thank you for the kind words.
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December 7th, 2017 at 12:01:48 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

I don't know about multiple account BS. but I wouldn't want to see anyone banned for
insulting me. (people need to put their big boy pants on) We are loosing members
who could increase are knowledge & fun here
exponentially, but instead the powers that be increasingly move toward a police state.

Who here is without sin, who hasn't spoken out of anger? On this forum these
transgressions can lead to a life sentence and who really serves this sentence?
The forum, the membership itself.

I believe Wizard should wipe the slate and open the door to all previously
banned members. I won't make my case for it here as I don't wish to put
forth the effort when there is no chance in Hades. However I do believe
I could successfully argue the case if Wizard had an open mind about it.

I have had conflict in my life with individuals which lead to total disdain
towards them. Fast forward they are some of the greatest people I
know and am honored to have them as friends.



Dilly Dilly!
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December 7th, 2017 at 12:05:26 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Much like in real life, you get only one shot. Make it count.



Just ask Mike Vick!

How greater than God can one person get??
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December 7th, 2017 at 1:15:27 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The rule was mainly made to prohibit banned members from just returning under a new name. However, I also don't want people making fake identities as a joke with the intention to troll until banned.

Much like in real life, you get only one shot. Make it count.



This statement is one of the little sayings we are all guilty of using
however it is a fallacy and can be proven as such.
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December 7th, 2017 at 2:19:51 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

This statement is one of the little sayings we are all guilty of using
however it is a fallacy and can be proven as such.



Hmmm. I am always up for a logic puzzle and love to prove people wrong. Can you give me a hint?
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December 7th, 2017 at 7:05:58 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Hmmm. I am always up for a logic puzzle and love to prove people wrong. Can you give me a hint?



I was going for a one gets multiple shots in life but it won't work here so I must recant.
Hey sometimes you swing and miss.
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December 7th, 2017 at 7:27:14 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

I was going for a one gets multiple shots in life but it won't work here so I must recant.
Hey sometimes you swing and miss.



Where does it work? Maybe in a Buddhist (I can never remember how to spell that) church.

I was thinking about this after your post. I suppose if you blew your one life then you wouldn't be around any more to regret having blown it. If you were around, somehow, you can always make something of your next chance, hopefully. Either way, no regrets.
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December 7th, 2017 at 9:12:48 PM permalink
no ragrets*
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December 13th, 2017 at 2:45:48 PM permalink
FYI, I intend to flag posts by banned members on sight. They are no longer worthy to be heard from here.
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December 13th, 2017 at 4:43:17 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

FYI, I intend to flag posts by banned members on sight. They are no longer worthy to be heard from here.



Banned members should have their post immediately deleted if they are found out right away. Part of the reason they come back is because they know their post will stay.

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December 13th, 2017 at 5:11:33 PM permalink
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Banned members should have their post immediately deleted if they are found out right away. Part of the reason they come back is because they know their post will stay.



Amen.
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December 13th, 2017 at 6:44:11 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

FYI, I intend to flag posts by banned members on sight. They are no longer worthy to be heard from here.



Worthiness is in the eye of the beholder.

I support your right to ban, but not your power to dictate what we, the readers, deem to be worthy of reading.

The reality is that YOU don't deem them worthy to be heard here, so you or another mod have banned them, usually for breaking a forum rule.

Some of us may disagree with you on the worthiness issue, but it's not our board, so case closed.

If we disagree with the way the board is run we can (and some do) leave.
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December 18th, 2017 at 3:35:27 PM permalink
I just stopped by to say Merry Christmas. I wanted to make sure everyone saw my message, so I had to post here.
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December 18th, 2017 at 5:24:29 PM permalink
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I just stopped by to say Merry Christmas. I wanted to make sure everyone saw my message, so I had to post here.



Merry Christmas Ahigh!
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December 19th, 2017 at 10:18:06 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

I just stopped by to say Merry Christmas. I wanted to make sure everyone saw my message, so I had to post here.



Merry Christmas, I hope you're well. I hear there is a pinball-based skill game gaining some popularity in Vegas, so at least you can tell some of your detractors to shove it in one regard.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 19th, 2017 at 12:37:06 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I hear there is a pinball-based skill game gaining some popularity in Vegas, so at least you can tell some of your detractors to shove it in one regard.



Yes, it's a bonus game in a version of Texas Tea. I think it can be found in other games as well.
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December 19th, 2017 at 1:31:42 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Yes, it's a bonus game in a version of Texas Tea. I think it can be found in other games as well.



Cosmo has this and a Cleopatra version as well. Basically the same game.
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December 19th, 2017 at 4:23:23 PM permalink
That's a pretty liberal definition of skill-based gambling to accept Texas Tea.

That is, unless someone can tell me how I could use skill to get a positive EV.

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December 19th, 2017 at 4:37:28 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

That is, unless someone can tell me how I could use skill to get a positive EV.



I'll refrain from comment -- lest I get blamed again for ruining a play.
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December 19th, 2017 at 4:37:31 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

That's a pretty liberal definition of skill-based gambling to accept Texas Tea.

That is, unless someone can tell me how I could use skill to get a positive EV.



I don't know that it's Texas Tea specifically, but from what I have heard about some of the bonus features, yes, that is kind of what I'm driving at.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 20th, 2017 at 2:01:14 AM permalink
What an interesting but horrible thread. I missed the original post but I think I sort of understand what is going on. I am all for wishing everyone a Happy Day since some people don't celebrate the same days but after reading this thread it is odd that this thread isn't just closed. It seems to be an embarrassing thread for all involved. I don't think I would have read this thread if it hadn't recently been bumped, is that the correct terminology?
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December 20th, 2017 at 2:27:36 AM permalink
I certainly don't miss all this Sturm and Drang
(storm and stress), that I used to be a major part
of here. On other forums with some of these
same people we are much more calm and
reserved.
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