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December 4th, 2017 at 10:41:18 AM permalink
That 30 days up already?
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December 4th, 2017 at 2:23:22 PM permalink
A friend of mine here in Vegas is a single guy. Once I asked if I could look though the pictures on his phone. He said yes and every single one of them was a picture of a jackpot. Not a single picture of anything else. I thought it actually described his life pretty well.
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December 4th, 2017 at 2:44:09 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

A friend of mine here in Vegas is a single guy. Once I asked if I could look though the pictures on his phone. He said yes and every single one of them was a picture of a jackpot. Not a single picture of anything else. I thought it actually described his life pretty well.



Yeah well some of us different AP types actually have alternate lives. Sure I AP a lot, hustle, steal from the rich and give to the poor. However I take time off. I take care of a family member who is legally unable (army vet). I have dogs that I let run daily. I have a wife who I give everything I have to give to. Not only that, I go to movies, operas, symphonies, read books, wrote a few unpublished myself, play all types of board games, video games, card games, I go fishing out at lake mead, I shoot many types of guns and other things as well. I have a few pictures of my dogs and family on my phone. I take jackpot pictures to share with this forum but the Self proclaimed wizard of odds... actually he borrowed that name from a mobster go figure, can go screw... or jump off a cliff.
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December 4th, 2017 at 4:19:37 PM permalink
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{snip} the Self proclaimed wizard of odds... actually he borrowed that name from a mobster go figure, can go screw... or jump off a cliff.

I feel like I missed something by not seeing the original post before it got deleted.

As such, I felt the need to preserve the above quote/evidence, in case an admin deems it ban-worthy.

Note to PingPangPong: unless I’m mistaken, the Wiz took that name without realizing it was already being used.
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December 4th, 2017 at 5:55:43 PM permalink
I think PPP took The Wizards last 2 sentences as personal criticism.

I can see how one might take it that way, but I am almost certain The Wizard didn't mean it how PPP may have taken it.

One must sometimes give the math guys a little leeway when they say something. IMO they are wired slightly different and don't always pick up on certain things.

PPP Just relax and don't go getting all Zenking on us, you know, the guy that seems to overreact and get all emotional on us. (-;
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December 4th, 2017 at 6:09:31 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

A friend of mine here in Vegas is a single guy. Once I asked if I could look though the pictures on his phone. He said yes and every single one of them was a picture of...



I thought this story was going to go in a much different direction.
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December 4th, 2017 at 6:35:13 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I feel like I missed something by not seeing the original post before it got deleted.


Just a bunch of Monets jackpot pictures.
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December 4th, 2017 at 7:43:31 PM permalink
Quote: pingpangpong

Yeah well some of us different AP types actually have alternate lives. Sure I AP a lot, hustle, steal from the rich and give to the poor. However I take time off. I take care of a family member who is legally unable (army vet). I have dogs that I let run daily. I have a wife who I give everything I have to give to. Not only that, I go to movies, operas, symphonies, read books, wrote a few unpublished myself, play all types of board games, video games, card games, I go fishing out at lake mead, I shoot many types of guns and other things as well. I have a few pictures of my dogs and family on my phone. I take jackpot pictures to share with this forum but the Self proclaimed wizard of odds... actually he borrowed that name from a mobster go figure, can go screw... or jump off a cliff.



How about you both take a few steps back and a deep breath? I don't think Wizard meant to demean you, but I can see where you got that idea, so no, I'm not giving him another ban, djt. It's an angry response but falls just short of a personal insult.

Ppp, you and Mike are both good guys with a lot more in common than not. He offended you before, so now you're looking for it. Your advice and posts are valued, and not just by me. Can the two of you perhaps have a truce? No more shots? I'd appreciate it.
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December 6th, 2017 at 6:10:32 AM permalink
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Just a bunch of Monets jackpot pictures.



Monet412 is gone and will not return. I spoke to him about it after his 30 days was up.

Pingpangpong is a former member who has returned with a different name for AP professional reasons, and is a member in good standing. He, and I, would appreciate him not being the subject of any more of these type of posts. I'm sure his fellow AP's will understand this sometimes happens and stop. Thanks.
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December 6th, 2017 at 6:49:30 AM permalink
Quote: pingpangpong

the Self proclaimed wizard of odds... actually he borrowed that name from a mobster go figure, can go screw... or jump off a cliff.



I never said I was referring to you or all APs. Just one particular person.

Sentencing TBD.
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December 6th, 2017 at 6:54:03 AM permalink
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...unless I’m mistaken, the Wiz took that name without realizing it was already being used.



He was right that I did knowingly take the name from mobster Donald Angelini.
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December 6th, 2017 at 7:02:00 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Monet412 is gone and will not return. I spoke to him about it after his 30 days was up.

Pingpangpong is a former member who has returned with a different name for AP professional reasons, and is a member in good standing. He, and I, would appreciate him not being the subject of any more of these type of posts. I'm sure his fellow AP's will understand this sometimes happens and stop. Thanks.


Listen!!!! Those pictures were Monets!!! I DID NOT SAY THIS NEW PERSON WAS MONET!!!

FOR THE THIRD TIME..... YOU NEED TO STEP DOWN AS A MODERATOR HERE!!!!!!

And don't PM me about it. It will be deleted!
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December 6th, 2017 at 9:32:07 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I never said I was referring to you or all APs. Just one particular person.

Sentencing TBD.



I promise this is my last post ever. You must think your talking to some two year old. I agree I am not the smartest person here most likely one of the most uneducated but I post up a bunch of jackpot pictures and tell a little story. Next Ibeatyouraces correctly needles me which I actually don't mind. Everyone knows PPP is Monet0412... I never denied that... I even posted to Axel that I did it and I knew it was wrong.

However your out of your mind if you think I post up all these jackpot pictures and you come in the thread and tell the story about how you looked at someones phone and all you seen were jackpot pictures and nothing else and after that you leave a comment about how that relates to the persons life. Now your in here telling me that your post has no relation to my OP... seriously GFY!
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December 6th, 2017 at 9:42:32 AM permalink
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I promise this is my last post ever. You must think your talking to some two year old. I agree I am not the smartest person here most likely one of the most uneducated but I post up a bunch of jackpot pictures and tell a little story. Next Ibeatyouraces correctly needles me which I actually don't mind. Everyone knows PPP is Monet0412... I never denied that... I even posted to Axel that I did it and I knew it was wrong.

However your out of your mind if you think I post up all these jackpot pictures and you come in the thread and tell the story about how you looked at someones phone and all you seen were jackpot pictures and nothing else and after that you leave a comment about how that relates to the persons life. Now your in here telling me that your post has no relation to my OP... seriously GFY!


So BBB LIED to me!

Back on topic though, why not just hash it out with him privately? I don't think anyone wanted or wants to see you leave.
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December 6th, 2017 at 10:02:45 AM permalink
Quote: Rawhide1900

I promise this is my last post ever. You must think your talking to some two year old. I agree I am not the smartest person here most likely one of the most uneducated but I post up a bunch of jackpot pictures and tell a little story. Next Ibeatyouraces correctly needles me which I actually don't mind. Everyone knows PPP is Monet0412... I never denied that... I even posted to Axel that I did it and I knew it was wrong.

However your out of your mind if you think I post up all these jackpot pictures and you come in the thread and tell the story about how you looked at someones phone and all you seen were jackpot pictures and nothing else and after that you leave a comment about how that relates to the persons life. Now your in here telling me that your post has no relation to my OP... seriously GFY!



AND another really good contributer that posts excellent content is gone. If we keep this up all we are going to have left is robots selling really cheap cabinets lol.
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December 6th, 2017 at 10:40:42 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

So BBB LIED to me!

Back on topic though, why not just hash it out with him privately? I don't think anyone wanted or wants to see you leave.



I didn't lie to you or anyone. I was constrained by the PM rule from saying something directly, but now that he's said it openly, I can agree that you were correct. I had hoped, however, because there was good reason for the name change, that you could put 2 and 2 together like everyone else could and not troll him repeatedly, in this thread and others, while we tried to work out the name change problem. Guess not, since you trolled him several times.

Thanks for your part in driving him away. Well done. A guy who knows his stuff, was willing to teach others, reached out to a guy in trouble, provided great content, interesting trips, many pictures...yeah, let's harass him the hell out of here.
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December 6th, 2017 at 10:46:41 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I didn't lie to you or anyone. I was constrained by the PM rule from saying something directly, but now that he's said it openly, I can agree that you were correct. I had hoped, however, because there was good reason for the name change, that you could put 2 and 2 together like everyone else could and not troll him repeatedly, in this thread and others, while we tried to work out the name change problem. Guess not, since you trolled him several times.

Thanks for your part in driving him away. Well done. A guy who knows his stuff, was willing to teach others, reached out to a guy in trouble, provided great content, interesting trips, many pictures...yeah, let's harass him the hell out of here.


I'll repeat..... nobody wants him to leave!!
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December 6th, 2017 at 10:52:39 AM permalink
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I'll repeat..... nobody wants him to leave!!



Too late. Banned for multiple id's, nuclear option. The flame out as Rawhide didn't help.
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December 6th, 2017 at 10:59:54 AM permalink
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Too late. Banned for multiple id's, nuclear option. The flame out as Rawhide didn't help.


Well, there are others here posting under multiple ID's that are former nuked members and they're given a pass....right StrictlyAP? I'm sure something can be worked out.
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December 6th, 2017 at 11:07:30 AM permalink
To my knowledge Strictly Ap never told the Wiz to go have sex with himself.
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December 6th, 2017 at 11:09:27 AM permalink
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To my knowledge Strictly Ap never told the Wiz to go have sex with himself.


Not the point. And I'd just laugh stuff like that off.

Many people here know damn well what name StrictlyAP is posting under!
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December 6th, 2017 at 11:10:16 AM permalink
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Not the point. And I'd just laugh stuff like that off.

Many people here know damn well what name StrictlyAP is posting under!


I think everyone knows his new name lol.
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December 6th, 2017 at 11:11:10 AM permalink
BTW, I'm offended that she'd think we ran him off. His own postings did that, not us.
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December 6th, 2017 at 11:12:06 AM permalink
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I think everyone knows his new name lol.


But does Dancer?
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December 6th, 2017 at 11:12:41 AM permalink
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Too late. Banned for multiple id's, nuclear option. The flame out as Rawhide didn't help.

Well **** that. Free will exists, forgive and forget, you alll need to look from the outside and realize egos are in control. This isn't Highlander, we can put the heads back on.
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December 6th, 2017 at 11:14:10 AM permalink
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Well **** that. Free will exists, forgive and forget, you alll need to look from the outside and realize egos are in control. This isn't Highlander, we can put the heads back on.


Exactly. Maybe they can go shoot pool and have a good laugh over it.
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December 6th, 2017 at 11:19:14 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I feel like I missed something by not seeing the original post before it got deleted.

As such, I felt the need to preserve the above quote/evidence, in case an admin deems it ban-worthy.

Note to PingPangPong: unless I’m mistaken, the Wiz took that name without realizing it was already being used.

There have been stores around here called Wizard of Odds since the 80s. I wouldn't doubt the use since the movie Wizard of Oz was made or the book. It's one of those things bound to be thought of by anybody obsessed with gambling. It's a good name, just saying it's quite obvious to come up with, no way to tell who thought of it first, were probably hundreds of people to use it the first week Wizard of Oz came out.
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December 6th, 2017 at 11:31:45 AM permalink
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But does Dancer?


Haha that I’m not sure of.
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December 6th, 2017 at 12:13:32 PM permalink
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I think everyone knows his new name lol.



I must be very naive. I didn't know any of the banned members are knowingly back. My thoughts are that the admins should notify us if that is the case. What if one of the banned members that is back under a different name had welched on a bet? Would management accept the liability if that same user under another name welched on a bet?

I don't mind people being allowed back at the discretion of management, but I think it needs to be under the same name to avoid deception.
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December 6th, 2017 at 12:20:08 PM permalink
Let me catch up here. I did not know that Monet and PingPangPong were the same person until today. I would never have allowed it.

Personally, I believe that multiple accounts is an immediately nukable offense. I have never allowed anyone to break that rule, except Buzz's second account. He only formed a second account because he lost his password and never denied his association to the first account. However, it set a terrible precedent, for which I'll take the blame. For that, I am sorry.

Regarding the StrictlyAP allegation, I have asked the member who he is alleged to be for his version. If they are the same, he takes steps to use a different IP. I take the matter seriously.

I do think that we admins have drifted apart in our implementation of forum rules and we need to regroup and get on the same page.

As for Money/PPP, I wish you well, elsewhere.
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December 6th, 2017 at 12:27:38 PM permalink
BBB

I think we as members were unaware of this "good reason" rule that allowed people to change their screen names. I know I was confused as to why he made the name change, especially since his self-imposed ban was up. Was his time up before his reincarnation? I haven't followed the timeline. I was wondering if he had made a new name because no one lifted his ban on time(that happens frequently).

Had I thought there was a good reason, I would not have made that comment. It didn't seem as if he was trying to hide who he previously was or anything like that. Again, I kind of assumed his time was up and he took matters into his own hands and just made a new name.

I'm baffled as to how a name change would help when that person is posting in an almost identical writing style, talking about the same type of stuff and posting pictures, especially when it's VERY obvious that it's the same person.

I admit I'm a bit biased when it comes to people I like, so I didn't really care Monet changed his name, however, I can see how other members might be agitated knowing someone was allowed to change their screen name. It seemed to us as if the administration was just turning a blind eye. Did he ask for permission prior to making a new screen name? Or did he do it, then get confronted, and then explain why later, thus being granted permission after the fact? To be clear I don't care how many screen names HE has. I know it's him, I like him, so I don't care. He's not some guy like B79 who was doing creepy shit and making up complete BS. There's also situation whereby knowing or allowing someone to change their name can lead to some nefarious sh*t.

BTW, had this been someone like ZenKing he would have been trolled relentlessly and I think it would have been a long while before anyone came to his rescue.

I can't see how Ibeatyouraces really has anything to do with driving him away, that's just wishful thinking on your part since he's a dick to you(If I were you, I would want to put some blame on IBYA as well). Perhaps you(or a different Mod) could have PM'ed IBYA and let him know there was a legit reason for this name change and asked him to chill out.

Is it just me, or does it seem as if Monet is almost going out of his way to get in trouble?

There is one thing some banned members have in common..... getting into it with the Wizzard. That never seems like a good idea since it will shift the biased towards you.

Edit to add: Damn, I started posting then went to get a soda and take a Wiz(lol) I see there was a significant amount of discussion going on in between, so ignore some of the stuff that was already addressed.
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December 6th, 2017 at 12:32:38 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Let me catch up here. I did not know that Monet and PingPangPong were the same person until today. I would never have allowed it.

Personally, I believe that multiple accounts is an immediately nukable offense. I have never allowed anyone to break that rule, except Buzz's second account. He only formed a second account because he lost his password and never denied his association to the first account. However, it set a terrible precedent, for which I'll take the blame. For that, I am sorry.

Regarding the StrictlyAP allegation, I have asked the member who he is alleged to be for his version. If they are the same, he takes steps to use a different IP. I take the matter seriously.

I do think that we admins have drifted apart in our implementation of forum rules and we need to regroup and get on the same page.

As for Money/PPP, I wish you well, elsewhere.



So you had a rogue administrator allow the name change and the forum is out a contributor for life because of that administration error? Makes sense to me.....not.
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December 6th, 2017 at 12:53:21 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I did not know that Monet and PingPangPong were the same person until today

You are probably the only one. You are not paying attention to all of your students (-;

You replied to someone not knowing who it really was, this is a good example why it should not be allowed.
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December 6th, 2017 at 1:03:49 PM permalink
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You replied to someone not knowing who it really was, this is a good example why it should not be allowed.



I agree that it should not be allowed. If anyone can show me evidence that I allowed it with anyone since the Buzz's first violation of that, I will consider suspending myself.
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December 6th, 2017 at 1:14:24 PM permalink
But the point is a moderator allowed and condoned the name change.
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December 6th, 2017 at 1:25:52 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

BBB

I think we as members were unaware of this "good reason" rule that allowed people to change their screen names. I know I was confused as to why he made the name change, especially since his self-imposed ban was up. Was his time up before his reincarnation? I haven't followed the timeline. I was wondering if he had made a new name because no one lifted his ban on time(that happens frequently).

Had I thought there was a good reason, I would not have made that comment. It didn't seem as if he was trying to hide who he previously was or anything like that. Again, I kind of assumed his time was up and he took matters into his own hands and just made a new name.

I'm baffled as to how a name change would help when that person is posting in an almost identical writing style, talking about the same type of stuff and posting pictures, especially when it's VERY obvious that it's the same person.

I admit I'm a bit biased when it comes to people I like, so I didn't really care Monet changed his name, however, I can see how other members might be agitated knowing someone was allowed to change their screen name. It seemed to us as if the administration was just turning a blind eye. Did he ask for permission prior to making a new screen name? Or did he do it, then get confronted, and then explain why later, thus being granted permission after the fact? To be clear I don't care how many screen names HE has. I know it's him, I like him, so I don't care. He's not some guy like B79 who was doing creepy shit and making up complete BS. There's also situation whereby knowing or allowing someone to change their name can lead to some nefarious sh*t.

BTW, had this been someone like ZenKing he would have been trolled relentlessly and I think it would have been a long while before anyone came to his rescue.

I can't see how Ibeatyouraces really has anything to do with driving him away, that's just wishful thinking on your part since he's a dick to you(If I were you, I would want to put some blame on IBYA as well). Perhaps you(or a different Mod) could have PM'ed IBYA and let him know there was a legit reason for this name change and asked him to chill out.

Is it just me, or does it seem as if Monet is almost going out of his way to get in trouble?

There is one thing some banned members have in common..... getting into it with the Wizzard. That never seems like a good idea since it will shift the biased towards you.

Edit to add: Damn, I started posting then went to get a soda and take a Wiz(lol) I see there was a significant amount of discussion going on in between, so ignore some of the stuff that was already addressed.

Your spelling seems really good until you get to wizard. How many more years are you going to keep up the bad spelling act.
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December 6th, 2017 at 1:30:29 PM permalink
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But the point is a moderator allowed and condoned the name change.


And was deceitful about it. Reinstatement with a name change should only be allowed by Mike or ownership.

And Axel, I have nothing personal against BBB. I know she means well, but I will call out her (or anyone else's) questional decisions. I would've said the same thing to my best friends. All I did was ask if the 30 days were up and answered DJT question about what was deleted. I had/have no idea there was/were reasons for a name change.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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December 6th, 2017 at 1:47:11 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

And was deceitful about it. Reinstatement with a name change should only be allowed by Mike or ownership.

And Axel, I have nothing personal against BBB. I know she means well, but I will call out her (or anyone else's) questional decisions. I would've said the same thing to my best friends. All I did was ask if the 30 days were up and answered DJT question about what was deleted. I had/have no idea there was/were reasons for a name change.



I know very little about this, the only thing I can offer is what’s clearly on record, which is that PingPangPong was created two or three days before the minimum self-suspension of thirty days by Monet had been completed.

With that, it would technically violate the self-suspension, but my opinion would be that he didn’t create it to circumvent the suspension. It’s not like it was one or two days, or even a week later.

Beyond that, I know nothing. I only know what’s on record.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 6th, 2017 at 1:51:51 PM permalink
I don't know about multiple account BS. but I wouldn't want to see anyone banned for
insulting me. (people need to put their big boy pants on) We are loosing members
who could increase are knowledge & fun here
exponentially, but instead the powers that be increasingly move toward a police state.

Who here is without sin, who hasn't spoken out of anger? On this forum these
transgressions can lead to a life sentence and who really serves this sentence?
The forum, the membership itself.

I believe Wizard should wipe the slate and open the door to all previously
banned members. I won't make my case for it here as I don't wish to put
forth the effort when there is no chance in Hades. However I do believe
I could successfully argue the case if Wizard had an open mind about it.

I have had conflict in my life with individuals which lead to total disdain
towards them. Fast forward they are some of the greatest people I
know and am honored to have them as friends.
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December 6th, 2017 at 2:15:32 PM permalink
I've seen a lot of good contributing members get the boot since I've been here. Thing is we are in someone else's playhouse and we have to play by their rules if we are going to stay. Do I agree with all of it? Absolutely not. I do however realize that I have to abide within the rules if I want to remain a member here. I miss a lot of the members that have gone by the wayside, some I don't miss as much. As of now there is still enough content and enough people willing to help that this board is valuable to me. I hope it stays that way for a long time!!
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December 6th, 2017 at 2:20:00 PM permalink
Quote: pingpangpong

Self proclaimed wizard of odds... actually he borrowed that name from a mobster go figure, can go screw... or jump off a cliff.


OR.... it could have been a game show hosted by Alex Trebek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GVnD5q2NO0&feature=youtu.be&t=0m12s
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December 6th, 2017 at 3:04:13 PM permalink
I thought it was common knowledge chingchangchong was monet420?
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December 6th, 2017 at 3:19:50 PM permalink
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I thought it was common knowledge chingchangchong was monet420?



Yeah that was pretty obvious.

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December 6th, 2017 at 3:33:59 PM permalink
Is pingpangpong available now if anyone wants to post under another name?
I am a robot.
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December 6th, 2017 at 4:15:20 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

So you had a rogue administrator allow the name change and the forum is out a contributor for life because of that administration error? Makes sense to me.....not.



He's out for life because he told a mod to jump off a cliff, among other things, even after he was warned by Babs.

Btw, you know who else is a great contributor to these forums? MICHAEL F#+@ING SHACKLEFORD!!!
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December 6th, 2017 at 6:57:47 PM permalink
There has been a lot of discussion via PM among the active moderators and we seem to all be in agreement that enforcement of the multiple accounts rule has been lax and we're all guilty of it to some degree.

We all are in agreement that starting today we will uphold that rule. As far as I know, there are no violators currently active. I pledge that I will take seriously any evidence of violations of this rule and welcome anybody to PM me with their accusations and what evidence they have to support it.

Thank you.
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December 6th, 2017 at 7:09:50 PM permalink
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I agree that it should not be allowed. If anyone can show me evidence that I allowed it with anyone since the Buzz's first violation of that, I will consider suspending myself.

I was not suggesting you allowed it. I was just talking in general. There are some who think having multiple screen names should be allowed and they don't see a problem with it.
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December 6th, 2017 at 7:36:13 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I was not suggesting you allowed it. I was just talking in general. There are some who think having multiple screen names should be allowed and they don't see a problem with it.



The rule was mainly made to prohibit banned members from just returning under a new name. However, I also don't want people making fake identities as a joke with the intention to troll until banned.

Much like in real life, you get only one shot. Make it count.
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December 6th, 2017 at 7:40:45 PM permalink
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I believe Wizard should wipe the slate and open the door to all previously
banned members.

Just like that, open the floodgates for all banned members to return? Even the ones who possibly threatened The Wizard, people who have and continue to say horrible things about him, people who have not paid their debts or even worse?

What about people who had multiple chances and still proved they couldn't conduct themselves?

It wouldn't make any difference to me, but If I'm in The Wizards position, I just couldn't come up with a good reason why doing that is a good idea. I guess it would add more posts and views to the WOV forum.
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