Evenbobs Baccarat Thread
Quote: OnceDearIs there something wrong with the time display of your log entries? Or are you switching casinos, each with a balance of twenty something dollars?Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearbummer when the session is so long that it would entail showing multiple pages. Been there, got the T-shirt.
Even a bigger bummer when you switch games at
13:51:43 with a bank balance of $29.69 and you struggle on until
14:25:00 where you finish with $25.63
Still. A win's a win, I guess. Mustn't get greedy.
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It's units won that count, the money amount has nothing to do with anything. For some reason you have a hard time understanding this. I'm not playing for real money, when I play for real money you will never see those results. 40 units won is 40 units. 40 units in real money is slightly more than 40 units in the minimum amount.
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I'm seeing a $4.06 loss over the course of the 33 minutes between 13:51:43 and 14:25:00.
Wasn't the unit size 10c?
Would that be a 40 unit loss?
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You're looking at wins and losses in the middle of the play, all the counts is the beginning amount and the ending amount. Of course there are losses in the middle just like there are wins in the middle, duh. That's what happens when you use a progression. And no I would never flat bet in RNG game it's a total waste of time. The only way you have of hopefully winning is to use a progression and to do that you need a winning bet selection to start with. With a winning bet selection and the progression it's very hard for the RNG to win without obviously cheating. And I'm not sure yet how far state-run casinos can go with that. I know the overseas casinos they don't pull any punches, they'll give you two or three zeros in every 10 spins just to defeat you which of course is totally ridiculous. If you look at the roulette game I played and just posted the results for I got one zero for all the bets that I made and that's really unusual for an RNG playing against a progression. It tells me these RNG games might be more legit than I thought.
Quote: EvenBobThat's what happens when you use a progression. And no I would never flat bet in RNG game it's a total waste of time. The only way you have of hopefully winning is to use a progression
really__________?
this is what EB posted in his original "Can Roulette Be Beaten" thread on 7/28/2023 at 6:33 - see link
"I know everything there is to know about progressions this is why I do not use them, have never used them, will never use them."
I'm guessing he's going to post that it being an "RNG" game is what accounts for the opposite statements
and maybe someone on some planet somewhere will buy that
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/2285-can-roulette-be-beaten/15/#post894319
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: odiousgambitI think we know Bob is smart enough to know that posting these 'results' is laughably meaningless.
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I'm not sure why you would think I think they are meaningless. If that's what I thought I wouldn't waste my time doing it. Also, this is what people asked me to do, post the results from my play online. The amount of the bet is irrelevant. When you go into a brick and mortar Casino and you put down the minimum amount, your chance of winning is exactly the same as if you put down the maximum amount. The same is true in an online casino. Winning with a $1 wager is every bit as difficult as winning with a $1,000 wager. Yet when people see the $1 win they say, good grief that's meaningless. No, it's exactly as meaningful as a $1,000 win, statistically.
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Quote: TigerWuYeah, we all pestered EB forever to post results, and now he's doing it.
What's with the criticism?
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Fairly sure Tiger Wu was not serious, but just to show that a thread like this can lead to mental illness, I'll reply
Let's explain it this way. Let's imagine EB had a bet with someone that he, this other person, call him The Odious One, TOO, didn't have a winning method at baccarat. TOO then presents Bob with logs of his gambling online which show TOO winning and says "pay up"
EB, being smart, would not pay up. A list of reasons he wasn't going to pay would pop up immediately
* it would be too easy for TOO to cherry pick results
* the sample size is too small to mean anything, even with thousands of bets
* almost for sure there would be a way to make the bankroll balance look continuous when it was not
* even if the Wizard was there in person to verify every bit of it was real, it would occur to EB that TOO was trying to freeroll him. Maybe TOO could get lucky and show a respectable Wizard-verified long log, long enough to impress, even, and just have been lucky somewhat towards the 3 standard dev.s level of things and collect a bet. Meanwhile if things weren't going that way we'd get a report that the evil betting site was cutting him off and closing him down, bet is off! 'Thanks for the freeroll' would not be said but there it is.
EB would be heard to say these very words I think: "what you gave me was meaningless!"
Because he is too smart to go for that. Guaranteed
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: EvenBobThat's what happens when you use a progression. And no I would never flat bet in RNG game it's a total waste of time. The only way you have of hopefully winning is to use a progression
really__________?
this is what EB posted in his original "Can Roulette Be Beaten" thread on 7/28/2023 at 6:33 - see link
"I know everything there is to know about progressions this is why I do not use them, have never used them, will never use them."
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Oh my dear God, I did say that! And as we all know everything we say in the past is written in stone and we can never do anything differently no matter the circumstances. I can see it now I'll be at the Pearly Gates talking to St Peter and he'll say, I would love to let you in Bob, but there's that progression thing. It's to hell for you..
LOL
Quote: odiousgambitQuote: EvenBobQuote: odiousgambitI think we know Bob is smart enough to know that posting these 'results' is laughably meaningless.
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I'm not sure why you would think I think they are meaningless. If that's what I thought I wouldn't waste my time doing it. Also, this is what people asked me to do, post the results from my play online. The amount of the bet is irrelevant. When you go into a brick and mortar Casino and you put down the minimum amount, your chance of winning is exactly the same as if you put down the maximum amount. The same is true in an online casino. Winning with a $1 wager is every bit as difficult as winning with a $1,000 wager. Yet when people see the $1 win they say, good grief that's meaningless. No, it's exactly as meaningful as a $1,000 win, statistically.
link to original postQuote: TigerWuYeah, we all pestered EB forever to post results, and now he's doing it.
What's with the criticism?
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Fairly sure Tiger Wu was not serious, but just to show that a thread like this can lead to mental illness, I'll reply
Let's explain it this way. Let's imagine EB had a bet with someone that he, this other person, call him The Odious One, TOO, didn't have a winning method at baccarat. TOO then presents Bob with logs of his gambling online which show TOO winning and says "pay up"
EB, being smart, would not pay up. A list of reasons he wasn't going to pay would pop up immediately
* it would be too easy for TOO to cherry pick results
* the sample size is too small to mean anything, even with thousands of bets
* almost for sure there would be a way to make the bankroll balance look continuous when it was not
* even if the Wizard was there in person to verify every bit of it was real, it would occur to EB that TOO was trying to freeroll him. Maybe TOO could get lucky and show a respectable Wizard-verified long log, long enough to impress, even, and just have been lucky somewhat towards the 3 standard dev.s level of things and collect a bet. Meanwhile if things weren't going that way we'd get a report that the evil betting site was cutting him off and closing him down, bet is off! 'Thanks for the freeroll' would not be said but there it is.
EB would be heard to say these very words I think: "what you gave me was meaningless!"
Because he is too smart to go for that. Guaranteed
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Bottom line is, be careful what you ask for because now you're getting it.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: lilredroosterQuote: EvenBobThat's what happens when you use a progression. And no I would never flat bet in RNG game it's a total waste of time. The only way you have of hopefully winning is to use a progression
really__________?
this is what EB posted in his original "Can Roulette Be Beaten" thread on 7/28/2023 at 6:33 - see link
"I know everything there is to know about progressions this is why I do not use them, have never used them, will never use them."
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Oh my dear God, I did say that! And as we all know everything we say in the past is written in stone and we can never do anything differently no matter the circumstances. I can see it now I'll be at the Pearly Gates talking to St Peter and he'll say, I would love to let you in Bob, but there's that progression thing. It's to hell for you..
LOL
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so, to summarize:
while you were playing roulette you believed what the Wizard and many other experts have stated -
that a player cannot obtain an advantage from any form of progressive betting
and now you have changed your belief
you now believe that progressive betting is an effective method to obtain an advantage in a minus EV gambling game
correct____________?
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Quote: lilredrooster
correct____________?
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Totally incorrect, 100% incorrect. If you have a winning betting method you don't need a progression because what's the point you're already winning. If you want to increase your winnings flat betting just increase your wager. Playing this RNG game for 10 cents, I want to move along very fast to accumulate the greatest number of units without having to increase my wager. This means I have to bet far more often so I'm using a progression. Plus the random outcomes produced by an RNG are different than live, they tend to get screwy and to get through that you need a progression. Got it? Get it? Good..
Quote: EvenBobI'm finding making five units at a time can be done in a really short period. Rather than going after 10 units at once which can take three or four times longer
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Those 12 minute eternities!
Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobI'm finding making five units at a time can be done in a really short period. Rather than going after 10 units at once which can take three or four times longer
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Those 12 minute eternities!
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It never takes the same amount of time it's always different because you never know what's going to happen. I'll be one unit away from my goal and four bets later I'm five deep in the progression. And my profit is totally gone I had to fight my way back. But I always have so far only because this game is so fast it will go as fast as I can go, I don't have to wait for some stupid dealer to get done talking to her neighbor and get around to dealing another hand.
We asked for legitimate proof(at least I did). There must be pre-set rules and protocols in order to prove you can/do beat -EV games of chance.Quote: EvenBobQuote: odiousgambitQuote: EvenBobQuote: odiousgambitI think we know Bob is smart enough to know that posting these 'results' is laughably meaningless.
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I'm not sure why you would think I think they are meaningless. If that's what I thought I wouldn't waste my time doing it. Also, this is what people asked me to do, post the results from my play online. The amount of the bet is irrelevant. When you go into a brick and mortar Casino and you put down the minimum amount, your chance of winning is exactly the same as if you put down the maximum amount. The same is true in an online casino. Winning with a $1 wager is every bit as difficult as winning with a $1,000 wager. Yet when people see the $1 win they say, good grief that's meaningless. No, it's exactly as meaningful as a $1,000 win, statistically.
link to original postQuote: TigerWuYeah, we all pestered EB forever to post results, and now he's doing it.
What's with the criticism?
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Fairly sure Tiger Wu was not serious, but just to show that a thread like this can lead to mental illness, I'll reply
Let's explain it this way. Let's imagine EB had a bet with someone that he, this other person, call him The Odious One, TOO, didn't have a winning method at baccarat. TOO then presents Bob with logs of his gambling online which show TOO winning and says "pay up"
EB, being smart, would not pay up. A list of reasons he wasn't going to pay would pop up immediately
* it would be too easy for TOO to cherry pick results
* the sample size is too small to mean anything, even with thousands of bets
* almost for sure there would be a way to make the bankroll balance look continuous when it was not
* even if the Wizard was there in person to verify every bit of it was real, it would occur to EB that TOO was trying to freeroll him. Maybe TOO could get lucky and show a respectable Wizard-verified long log, long enough to impress, even, and just have been lucky somewhat towards the 3 standard dev.s level of things and collect a bet. Meanwhile if things weren't going that way we'd get a report that the evil betting site was cutting him off and closing him down, bet is off! 'Thanks for the freeroll' would not be said but there it is.
EB would be heard to say these very words I think: "what you gave me was meaningless!"
Because he is too smart to go for that. Guaranteed
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Bottom line is, be careful what you ask for because now you're getting it.
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You have successfully provided enough proof to me that you actually play for micro stakes online.
You have successfully provided enough proof to me that you don't understand how proof works.
You have successfully provided enough proof to me that you don't understand math concepts.
You have successfully provided enough proof to me that you avoid doing what it actually takes to provide proof because you know you are not ahead lifetime nor will you be.
You have successfully provided enough proof to me that even if you could beat games of chance you couldn't successfully figure out how to make any significant money on your own.
You have successfully provided enough proof to everybody that you only repeat the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over. Remember the old record players, the really old ones, where the needle will get stuck in a groove and just repeat that same music forever unless somebody nudges the tone arm. How do we nudge your tone arm so we can get into a different groove. When I see your name I know exactly what you're going to say before I even read it because you never say anything different. Yawn.
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We haven't any clue how many units you are up or down over the last 3 days. You could be down 600 units at some other online casino.Quote: EvenBobI've got to say, the last two days have been kind of fun. I made right around 300 units but the fun part is getting in kind of deep sometimes and then working my way back out to where I started and then making a profit. You must have a good bet selection to do this if you did not the progression will eat you. You will eventually get 20 and 25 and 30 and more units you are betting and you will have some recovery but you don't have a good enough bet selection to totally recover. This is like I said before if you have a good bet selection you don't need a progression, I'm only using it to speed up the game. Progressions are for when you have a negative EV game not for when you have a positive game. I know there are positive progressions but those are just dumb.
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You introduced new casinos along the way. You never indicated what casinos you would be playing prior to showing results or when those results would start. You could be down thousands of dollars prior to showing results. (Not you since you bet 10 cents to $2 )
I could play at at 10 casinos and only show cherry picked results for 5 of those casinos. You claimed you have never lied, I showed proof you have.
Quote: AxelWolfWe haven't any clue how many units you are up or down over the last 3 days. You could be down 600 units at some other online casino.Quote: EvenBobI've got to say, the last two days have been kind of fun. I made right around 300 units but the fun part is getting in kind of deep sometimes and then working my way back out to where I started and then making a profit. You must have a good bet selection to do this if you did not the progression will eat you. You will eventually get 20 and 25 and 30 and more units you are betting and you will have some recovery but you don't have a good enough bet selection to totally recover. This is like I said before if you have a good bet selection you don't need a progression, I'm only using it to speed up the game. Progressions are for when you have a negative EV game not for when you have a positive game. I know there are positive progressions but those are just dumb.
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You introduced new casinos along the way. You never indicated what casinos you would be playing prior to showing results or when those results would start. You could be down thousands of dollars prior to showing results. (Not you since you bet 10 cents to $2 )
I could play at at 10 casinos and only show cherry picked results for 5 of those casinos. You claimed you have never lied, I showed proof you have.
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In addition there are missing pages from these logs.
The last entry he made is missing pages 2-4. For all we know page 2 and 3 show losses and page 4 shows him adding cash to his account
I don't have access from LV to understand how the records and logs work, so it's hard to see all the possibilities of shenanigan reporting. I can show proof of how easy it is to report Winnings without actually winning. I showed proof how you can show winning and actually be winning. Bob hasn't shown proof of anything other than he plays Mico stakes.Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfWe haven't any clue how many units you are up or down over the last 3 days. You could be down 600 units at some other online casino.Quote: EvenBobI've got to say, the last two days have been kind of fun. I made right around 300 units but the fun part is getting in kind of deep sometimes and then working my way back out to where I started and then making a profit. You must have a good bet selection to do this if you did not the progression will eat you. You will eventually get 20 and 25 and 30 and more units you are betting and you will have some recovery but you don't have a good enough bet selection to totally recover. This is like I said before if you have a good bet selection you don't need a progression, I'm only using it to speed up the game. Progressions are for when you have a negative EV game not for when you have a positive game. I know there are positive progressions but those are just dumb.
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You introduced new casinos along the way. You never indicated what casinos you would be playing prior to showing results or when those results would start. You could be down thousands of dollars prior to showing results. (Not you since you bet 10 cents to $2 )
I could play at at 10 casinos and only show cherry picked results for 5 of those casinos. You claimed you have never lied, I showed proof you have.
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In addition there are missing pages from these logs.
The last entry he made is missing pages 2-4. For all we know page 2 and 3 show losses and page 4 shows him adding cash to his account
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Quote: AxelWolf[We haven't any clue how many units you are up or down over the last 3 days.
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Sure you do I just told you. Oh you mean you don't believe it. LOL! How is that in any way my problem. How does that change the facts, that you don't believe it. You don't have to believe it, you don't have to believe anything, it changes nothing. I'm not trying to win a prize, I'm not trying to win a contest, I'm not trying to win anything besides units. This whole thread is about me, believe it or don't believe it, it's all the same as far as I'm concerned.
That is fair, but it doesn't show proof that backs up any of your claims. When someone claims something that defies math "because I just told you" just doesn't cut it. We were told someone witnessed 18 yo's in a row and were led to believe someone won 50 BJ hands in a row. Because they told us, just doesn't cut it.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf[We haven't any clue how many units you are up or down over the last 3 days.
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Sure you do I just told you. Oh you mean you don't believe it. LOL! How is that in any way my problem. How does that change the facts, that you don't believe it. You don't have to believe it, you don't have to believe anything, it changes nothing. I'm not trying to win a prize, I'm not trying to win a contest, I'm not trying to win anything besides units. This whole thread is about me, believe it or don't believe it, it's all the same as far as I'm concerned.
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Quote: AxelWolfThat is fair, but it doesn't show proof that backs up any of your claims. When someone claims something that defies math "because I just told you" just doesn't cut it. We were told someone witnessed 18 yo's in a row and were led to believe someone won 50 BJ hands in a row. Because they told us, just doesn't cut it.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf[We haven't any clue how many units you are up or down over the last 3 days.
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Sure you do I just told you. Oh you mean you don't believe it. LOL! How is that in any way my problem. How does that change the facts, that you don't believe it. You don't have to believe it, you don't have to believe anything, it changes nothing. I'm not trying to win a prize, I'm not trying to win a contest, I'm not trying to win anything besides units. This whole thread is about me, believe it or don't believe it, it's all the same as far as I'm concerned.
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But we are not in court, we are not on TV, we are not in some kind of contest where I have to prove anything. Where I am is dealing with a whole bunch of people who do not believe me and will never believe me no matter what I post, no matter what proof I give. So I'm posting what's convenient for me, I'm not going out of my way and wasting my time, believe what I'm doing or don't. Like I said I'm doing this for me not for you. For instance I never would have tried using one of these RNG games with a progression if I wasn't on this thread. I'm surprised at how well it's working because it's not what I expected. I think what's happening is the state requires these games to be far more fair than the offshore casinos due where there is no regulation whatsoever.
Proof is proof when done correctly there's nothing to dispute. Provide the proper evidence (Just convince Mike) And most people would change their minds and shut down the naysayers. You are correct, there will always be someone who refuses to believe legitimate proven things, but most people believe in legitimate proof.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfThat is fair, but it doesn't show proof that backs up any of your claims. When someone claims something that defies math "because I just told you" just doesn't cut it. We were told someone witnessed 18 yo's in a row and were led to believe someone won 50 BJ hands in a row. Because they told us, just doesn't cut it.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf[We haven't any clue how many units you are up or down over the last 3 days.
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Sure you do I just told you. Oh you mean you don't believe it. LOL! How is that in any way my problem. How does that change the facts, that you don't believe it. You don't have to believe it, you don't have to believe anything, it changes nothing. I'm not trying to win a prize, I'm not trying to win a contest, I'm not trying to win anything besides units. This whole thread is about me, believe it or don't believe it, it's all the same as far as I'm concerned.
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But we are not in court, we are not on TV, we are not in some kind of contest where I have to prove anything. Where I am is dealing with a whole bunch of people who do not believe me and will never believe me no matter what I post, no matter what proof I give. So I'm posting what's convenient for me, I'm not going out of my way and wasting my time, believe what I'm doing or don't. Like I said I'm doing this for me not for you. For instance I never would have tried using one of these RNG games with a progression if I wasn't on this thread. I'm surprised at how well it's working because it's not what I expected. I think what's happening is the state requires these games to be far more fair than the offshore casinos due where there is no regulation whatsoever.
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This has got to be one of the most boring threads on the forum...lol...
Quote: TigerWuOn one hand we have EvenBob, who is documenting how he wins 50 cents a day in online baccarat, and on the other hand we have everyone else who doesn't believe that it's possible.
This has got to be one of the most boring threads on the forum...lol...
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You just don't get it so why should I bother to keep explaining it to you.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuOn one hand we have EvenBob, who is documenting how he wins 50 cents a day in online baccarat, and on the other hand we have everyone else who doesn't believe that it's possible.
This has got to be one of the most boring threads on the forum...lol...
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You just don't get it so why should I bother to keep explaining it to you.
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Um...okay. I'm not asking you to explain anything.
And what is there to "get?"
You're playing baccarat online, yes?
You've been posting records of your sessions, yes?
These sessions show you as a consistent winner over the last however-many-days, yes?
Which of those facts do I have wrong?
Quote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuOn one hand we have EvenBob, who is documenting how he wins 50 cents a day in online baccarat, and on the other hand we have everyone else who doesn't believe that it's possible.
This has got to be one of the most boring threads on the forum...lol...
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You just don't get it so why should I bother to keep explaining it to you.
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Um...okay. I'm not asking you to explain anything.
And what is there to "get?"
You're playing baccarat online, yes?
You've been posting records of your sessions, yes?
These sessions show you as a consistent winner over the last however-many-days, yes?
Which of those facts do I have wrong?
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That I am playing for units and not dimes. Those same five times that add up to 50 cents, if they were $100 bills and added up to $500 then you would be impressed. But it's not doing anything different, it's still winning five units. All you see is the money and not the way you get to the money. The way to win five $100 units is exactly in every way you can possibly imagine the same way as winning five ten cent units. I guarantee you still won't understand this.
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That I am playing for units and not dimes. Those same five times that add up to 50 cents, if they were $100 bills and added up to $500 then you would be impressed. But it's not doing anything different, it's still winning five units. All you see is the money and not the way you get to the money. The way to win five $100 units is exactly in every way you can possibly imagine the same way as winning five ten cent units.
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Yes, that is an exceptionally simple concept. Not sure why you think I wouldn't understand elementary school math. I can clearly see from your logs that you are finishing your sessions with a higher number of units than you start with, regardless of the denominations.
Quote:I guarantee you still won't understand this.
P.S., this is a borderline personal insult, so you better watch your mouth.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBob
That I am playing for units and not dimes. Those same five times that add up to 50 cents, if they were $100 bills and added up to $500 then you would be impressed. But it's not doing anything different, it's still winning five units. All you see is the money and not the way you get to the money. The way to win five $100 units is exactly in every way you can possibly imagine the same way as winning five ten cent units.
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Yes, that is an exceptionally simple concept. Not sure why you think I wouldn't understand elementary school math.
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Because this is what you said and I quote "On one hand we have EvenBob, who is documenting how he wins 50 cents a day in online baccarat, and on the other hand we have everyone else who doesn't believe that it's possible."
You did not say I'm winning five units a day, you said I'm winning 50 cents a day. This implies that you did not understand at all that I'm winning five units and not 50 cents. Does it not?
Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBob
That I am playing for units and not dimes. Those same five times that add up to 50 cents, if they were $100 bills and added up to $500 then you would be impressed. But it's not doing anything different, it's still winning five units. All you see is the money and not the way you get to the money. The way to win five $100 units is exactly in every way you can possibly imagine the same way as winning five ten cent units.
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Yes, that is an exceptionally simple concept. Not sure why you think I wouldn't understand elementary school math.
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Because this is what you said and I quote "On one hand we have EvenBob, who is documenting how he wins 50 cents a day in online baccarat, and on the other hand we have everyone else who doesn't believe that it's possible."
You did not say I'm winning five units a day, you said I'm winning 50 cents a day. This implies that you did not understand at all that I'm winning five units and not 50 cents. Does it not?
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It is almost a dead ringer that when someone says here is similar data. You don't need to see the real data because the two are comparable that it's a deceipt, a lie, a scam.
What you are basically doing is a Theranos. You are showing finalized data without the process, showing the results and saying to everyone trust us these results are phenomenal.
The skipping pages is classic. You literally were just told you won't be believed if the end amount from one session is different then the start amount for the next. So what do you proceed to do literally the next few days? Post start and end that matches and leave out info in the middle.
That you can't understand that the end and beginning numbers of sessions needed to match to verify you weren't leaving out data is clear. I believe you do understand that and are again trying to work around in a deceitful way
Post all the logs or post none at all. And Don't make the ridiculous claim you are posting them for yourself. If that's the case then post them on your wall.
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Post all the logs or post none at all. And Don't make the ridiculous claim you are posting them for yourself. If that's the case then post them on your wall.
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He doesn't really care about any of this.
He doesn't care about Roulette or Baccarat.
He doesn't care about gambling or even winning, which is why he's only betting pennies at a time. He doesn't want to lose any real money.
He just wants to argue with people and get attention. He's even arguing with people who are trying to defend him.
The worst part is, I can't believe I keep falling for his schtick...lol
Further, can we expect to see log entries from more casinos as this thread progresses?
I'm not faulting the practice, just looking to confirm my understanding.
Quote: TigerWu
The worst part is, I can't believe I keep falling for his schtick...lol
maybe deep inside you want to believe in the possibility of EZ money
so many gamblers do
I can't say that I've never thought about it
but on my best days I don't believe it's a possibility
gambling is a great big tease - the money is right there - you just wanna believe so bad there's an EZ way to get it
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One final word. The reason I'm doing this is because I can now make money every time I turn on my computer, there's no more waiting for these live games to be playing my game. I can play these state run RNG games and make small amounts of money that will add up at the end of the month to be as much as I was making before. And I'm not talking dimes, that was just for practice. So to me I achieved what I wanted to and it's way different than what I was looking for. But that's how it always works isn't it.
So now you can say anything you want because I won't be coming back and reading this thread again and Gordon or Dieter or Mike if you want to shut this thing down and get rid of it, flush it down the toilet. Cancel it, make it go away, adios, sayonara..
Quote: EvenBobBeen gone 3 hours today and I still managed to get four winning sessions done but you know what, after reading the latest posts and the accumulation of posts behind it, why should I take one minute of my time to convert these screen grabs so I can post them here. All you'll do is ridicule them, say it's not enough, say I'm cheating, say I'm excluding all my losing sessions of which there are none, it'll just be blah blah blah from here to the end of time. It's like trying to convert the Catholic church in the 16th century into believing that the earth goes around the Sun. So I'm done with it, , I just don't have the strength to do both it's not worth it to me. At least I did it at least I posted a bunch of actual results whether you think they're real or not. I know they are and that's all that counts.
One final word. The reason I'm doing this is because I can now make money every time I turn on my computer, there's no more waiting for these live games to be playing my game. I can play these state run RNG games and make small amounts of money that will add up at the end of the month to be as much as I was making before. And I'm not talking dimes, that was just for practice. So to me I achieved what I wanted to and it's way different than what I was looking for. But that's how it always works isn't it.
So now you can say anything you want because I won't be coming back and reading this thread again and Gordon or Dieter or Mike if you want to shut this thing down and get rid of it, flush it down the toilet. Cancel it, make it go away, adios, sayonara..
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Hallelujah!
I'm not religious but praise be!
He couldn't prove anything, he's given up. Close this thread.
Quote: EvenBobBeen gone 3 hours today and I still managed to get four winning sessions done but you know what, after reading the latest posts and the accumulation of posts behind it, why should I take one minute of my time to convert these screen grabs so I can post them here. All you'll do is ridicule them, say it's not enough, say I'm cheating, say I'm excluding all my losing sessions of which there are none, it'll just be blah blah blah from here to the end of time. It's like trying to convert the Catholic church in the 16th century into believing that the earth goes around the Sun. So I'm done with it, , I just don't have the strength to do both it's not worth it to me. At least I did it at least I posted a bunch of actual results whether you think they're real or not. I know they are and that's all that counts.
One final word. The reason I'm doing this is because I can now make money every time I turn on my computer, there's no more waiting for these live games to be playing my game. I can play these state run RNG games and make small amounts of money that will add up at the end of the month to be as much as I was making before. And I'm not talking dimes, that was just for practice. So to me I achieved what I wanted to and it's way different than what I was looking for. But that's how it always works isn't it.
So now you can say anything you want because I won't be coming back and reading this thread again and Gordon or Dieter or Mike if you want to shut this thing down and get rid of it, flush it down the toilet. Cancel it, make it go away, adios, sayonara..
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SO WHAT!!
tuttigym
Quote: EvenBobBeen gone 3 hours today and I still managed to get four winning sessions done but you know what, after reading the latest posts and the accumulation of posts behind it, why should I take one minute of my time to convert these screen grabs so I can post them here. All you'll do is ridicule them, say it's not enough, say I'm cheating, say I'm excluding all my losing sessions of which there are none, it'll just be blah blah blah from here to the end of time. It's like trying to convert the Catholic church in the 16th century into believing that the earth goes around the Sun. So I'm done with it, , I just don't have the strength to do both it's not worth it to me. At least I did it at least I posted a bunch of actual results whether you think they're real or not. I know they are and that's all that counts.
One final word. The reason I'm doing this is because I can now make money every time I turn on my computer, there's no more waiting for these live games to be playing my game. I can play these state run RNG games and make small amounts of money that will add up at the end of the month to be as much as I was making before. And I'm not talking dimes, that was just for practice. So to me I achieved what I wanted to and it's way different than what I was looking for. But that's how it always works isn't it.
So now you can say anything you want because I won't be coming back and reading this thread again and Gordon or Dieter or Mike if you want to shut this thing down and get rid of it, flush it down the toilet. Cancel it, make it go away, adios, sayonara..
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Bolding above added by moderator
This thread is now closed.
I wonder if everyone will now shift over to the thread where ChumpChange posts his results from demo casino games using 'play money' and criticize ChumpChange for 'not proving anything' and for cherry-picking his results.
There is a chance that this thread will reopen when Wizard and Dieter return, if they both feel that that is the best course of action. There is also a chance that California will topple into the Pacific such that Downtown Vegas becomes seaside property.
I'd like to invite the Wizard to make a few comments about his expectations for this thread.
Quote: gordonm888There is also a chance that California will topple into the Pacific such that Downtown Vegas becomes seaside property.
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I can only suggest carefully avoiding personal insults, and blocking the thread if it offends your delicate sensibilities.
It is very uncommon (almost unheard of) for someone to get suspended for not posting.
Quote: DieterI can only suggest carefully avoiding personal insults, and blocking the thread if it offends your delicate sensibilities.
It is very uncommon (almost unheard of) for someone to get suspended for not posting.
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Amen to that!
I asked Gordon to reopen this thread to give EvenBob a dedicated place to post about his secret method to beat roulette. Baccarat too. The reason this was done was he made a post in the HOUSE EDGE EFFECT ON ROULETTE thread and, as usual, it was like poking an anthill. Everyone got hot and bothered, the topic was completely derailed and the suspensions started.
I'd like to remind the forum that per the free speech policy of the site, EvenBob may say what he says. He will never back down. It would be like Alan backing down from his 18 yo's. If you don't agree with EB, the best thing to do is do nothing. Responding just gives the topic oxygen.
EvenBob shall be confined to this thread for the topics of roulette and baccarat. I reserve the right to add other games to the list if he claims he can beat those too.
Carry on.
However, nobody actually did so.
I hope nobody minds, but since I have the ability to reopen the thread myself, I went ahead and did that.
Quote: Mission146It would seem that the intent of multiple Admins, including Wizard, was to reopen this thread.
However, nobody actually did so.
I hope nobody minds, but since I have the ability to reopen the thread myself, I went ahead and did that.
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Maybe the mods were doing a carefully constructed EB move. Saying one thing and doing another.
The mods could have said it's open and EB would say no it’s not and then the mods would say "prove it"
Quote: Mission146It would seem that the intent of multiple Admins, including Wizard, was to reopen this thread.
However, nobody actually did so.
I hope nobody minds, but since I have the ability to reopen the thread myself, I went ahead and did that.
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Prove it?
