GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
July 27th, 2023 at 7:31:17 PM permalink
Ok, I'm not posting anymore systems or anything of the sort because you guys will just crap all over them anyway so I thought I would trying something else.

I'm going to follow the CBS sportsline A graded simulations.

Here is the info on what the simulations are and how they are conducted:
https://help.sportsline.com/s/article/How-does-the-SportsLine-simulation-model-make-picks
https://help.sportsline.com/s/article/How-are-Over-Under-picks-simulated

I'm only taking the top "A" graded plays and I will post them AFTER the game is over so as not to cause any problems.

I'm starting with a $150.00 bankroll real money and playing 1% of my bankroll per play.

Lets see where this goes.

If you want to ask me what the plays are just message me. I WILL NOT POST THEM ON THE FORUM.

Sports will be: MLB, NFL, NBA, NCAAB, NCAAF, NHL

I'm Bored and I don't think I have much else to add to this site so....ya why not.
AxelWolf
AxelWolf
  • Threads: 164
  • Posts: 22282
Joined: Oct 10, 2012
July 28th, 2023 at 2:14:42 AM permalink
Quote: GreenZero



I'm only taking the top "A" graded plays and I will post them AFTER the game is over so as not to cause any problems. I WILL NOT POST THEM ON THE FORUM.

t

Why not post them beforehand? That's the general protocol here and it's highly encouraged to do so. You'll get crap for posting results after the fact.

How's your other system going?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
July 28th, 2023 at 6:19:57 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: GreenZero



I'm only taking the top "A" graded plays and I will post them AFTER the game is over so as not to cause any problems. I WILL NOT POST THEM ON THE FORUM.

t

Why not post them beforehand? That's the general protocol here and it's highly encouraged to do so. You'll get crap for posting results after the fact.

How's your other system going?
link to original post



I don't know if they will allow me to post them because sportsline is a paid service. it was only $29.99 for the entire year so it cheap and they probably suck but hey why not.

So far so good with the Baccarat testing.
billryan
billryan
  • Threads: 240
  • Posts: 16282
Joined: Nov 2, 2009
Thanked by
Mental
July 28th, 2023 at 8:00:02 AM permalink
The trick is to bet more on the hands you are going to win, and less on the rest of them. It's pretty simple, I'm not sure why anyone would use anything different.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
AxelWolf
AxelWolf
  • Threads: 164
  • Posts: 22282
Joined: Oct 10, 2012
July 28th, 2023 at 8:21:25 AM permalink
Quote: GreenZero

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: GreenZero



I'm only taking the top "A" graded plays and I will post them AFTER the game is over so as not to cause any problems. I WILL NOT POST THEM ON THE FORUM.

t

Why not post them beforehand? That's the general protocol here and it's highly encouraged to do so. You'll get crap for posting results after the fact.

How's your other system going?
link to original post



I don't know if they will allow me to post them because sportsline is a paid service. it was only $29.99 for the entire year so it cheap and they probably suck but hey why not.

So far so good with the Baccarat testing.
link to original post

That would be well worth finding out. I would look at their TOS. I haven't any clue what type of laws this would/could violate, if any. If it's a NO, NO. I suggest you send your picks via Private Message to one of the moderators prior to game time so they can confirm.

Is this service similar to unabated.com?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
July 28th, 2023 at 8:26:19 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: GreenZero

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: GreenZero



I'm only taking the top "A" graded plays and I will post them AFTER the game is over so as not to cause any problems. I WILL NOT POST THEM ON THE FORUM.

t

Why not post them beforehand? That's the general protocol here and it's highly encouraged to do so. You'll get crap for posting results after the fact.

How's your other system going?
link to original post



I don't know if they will allow me to post them because sportsline is a paid service. it was only $29.99 for the entire year so it cheap and they probably suck but hey why not.

So far so good with the Baccarat testing.
link to original post

That would be well worth finding out. I would look at their TOS. I haven't any clue what type of laws this would/could violate, if any. If it's a NO, NO. I suggest you send your picks via Private Message to one of the moderators prior to game time so they can confirm.

Is this service similar to unabated.com?
link to original post



Never heard of Unabated but I left some links for you to check out sportsline. i don't even know if this is good, I just like to chart things and keep track to know the truth. I will be updating my YT channel as well.
AxelWolf
AxelWolf
  • Threads: 164
  • Posts: 22282
Joined: Oct 10, 2012
July 28th, 2023 at 8:56:32 AM permalink
Quote: GreenZero

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: GreenZero

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: GreenZero



I'm only taking the top "A" graded plays and I will post them AFTER the game is over so as not to cause any problems. I WILL NOT POST THEM ON THE FORUM.

t

Why not post them beforehand? That's the general protocol here and it's highly encouraged to do so. You'll get crap for posting results after the fact.

How's your other system going?
link to original post



I don't know if they will allow me to post them because sportsline is a paid service. it was only $29.99 for the entire year so it cheap and they probably suck but hey why not.

So far so good with the Baccarat testing.
link to original post

That would be well worth finding out. I would look at their TOS. I haven't any clue what type of laws this would/could violate, if any. If it's a NO, NO. I suggest you send your picks via Private Message to one of the moderators prior to game time so they can confirm.

Is this service similar to unabated.com?
link to original post



Never heard of Unabated but I left some links for you to check out sportsline. i don't even know if this is good, I just like to chart things and keep track to know the truth. I will be updating my YT channel as well.
link to original post

Unabated is a multifunction sports program that links to multiple sports books. It's best known for finding legitimate +EV bets including arbitrage situations. It basically tells you what you should bet. I know a few Advantage Players who use it and have been successful. From everything I know, it works if used correctly. I don't know if they are charging yet, but I assume so.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
July 28th, 2023 at 9:04:50 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: GreenZero

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: GreenZero

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: GreenZero



I'm only taking the top "A" graded plays and I will post them AFTER the game is over so as not to cause any problems. I WILL NOT POST THEM ON THE FORUM.

t

Why not post them beforehand? That's the general protocol here and it's highly encouraged to do so. You'll get crap for posting results after the fact.

How's your other system going?
link to original post



I don't know if they will allow me to post them because sportsline is a paid service. it was only $29.99 for the entire year so it cheap and they probably suck but hey why not.

So far so good with the Baccarat testing.
link to original post

That would be well worth finding out. I would look at their TOS. I haven't any clue what type of laws this would/could violate, if any. If it's a NO, NO. I suggest you send your picks via Private Message to one of the moderators prior to game time so they can confirm.



Is this service similar to unabated.com?
link to original post



Never heard of Unabated but I left some links for you to check out sportsline. i don't even know if this is good, I just like to chart things and keep track to know the truth. I will be updating my YT channel as well.
link to original post

Unabated is a multifunction sports program that links to multiple sports books. It's best known for finding legitimate +EV bets including arbitrage situations. It basically tells you what you should bet. I know a few Advantage Players who use it and have been successful. From everything I know, it works if used correctly. I don't know if they are charging yet, but I assume so.
link to original post



Awesome! Thank you ill def check that out.
SOOPOO
SOOPOO
  • Threads: 122
  • Posts: 11022
Joined: Aug 8, 2010
July 28th, 2023 at 10:58:24 AM permalink
Just tell us what YOU are betting BEFORE the game. You don’t have to tell us why or which service you may or may not be using. Good luck!

I need Sweden to win their next WC game. Third leg of a parlay….
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
July 28th, 2023 at 11:07:41 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Just tell us what YOU are betting BEFORE the game. You don’t have to tell us why or which service you may or may not be using. Good luck!

I need Sweden to win their next WC game. Third leg of a parlay….
link to original post



Yeah I guess I can do that and good luck I hope you hit!
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
Thanked by
OnceDearrainman
heatmap
heatmap
  • Threads: 261
  • Posts: 2251
Joined: Feb 12, 2018
Thanked by
GreenZeroOnceDear
July 29th, 2023 at 7:13:55 AM permalink
^^^^ JUST AN FYI there are ways for owners (not just google) of google sheets to track YOU or who click on google stuff ^^^^
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
July 29th, 2023 at 7:21:55 AM permalink
Quote: heatmap

^^^^ JUST AN FYI there are ways for owners (not just google) of google sheets to track YOU or who click on google stuff ^^^^
link to original post



Thanks for the info. The internet is a fun place lol.
SOOPOO
SOOPOO
  • Threads: 122
  • Posts: 11022
Joined: Aug 8, 2010
July 30th, 2023 at 5:36:35 PM permalink
Quote: GreenZero

Day 3

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6jDMHh27Qnqn_PwT2W0PXmPppWB85tkNodJgdb4g20/edit?usp=sharing
link to original post



Not an auspicious start! 2 up 6 down (assuming Yanks go down after Severino gave up 8 hits in inning 1). And that’s with picking 7 of 8 favorites!!!

Of course sample size way too small to come to any conclusion…. But not easy to lose 6 of 8 favorites…
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
July 30th, 2023 at 5:40:11 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: GreenZero

Day 3

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6jDMHh27Qnqn_PwT2W0PXmPppWB85tkNodJgdb4g20/edit?usp=sharing
link to original post



Not an auspicious start! 2 up 6 down (assuming Yanks go down after Severino gave up 8 hits in inning 1). And that’s with picking 7 of 8 favorites!!!

Of course sample size way too small to come to any conclusion…. But not easy to lose 6 of 8 favorites…
link to original post



Yeah you can tell this is just another bull**** simulator designed to get you to fund the sportsbook machine. I will see how it plays out though. Losing $150 isnt going to kill me and will take a very long time to drain at 1% per play lol. If anything, it will show you how the juice is designed to just throw you overboard with cement blocks on your feet.
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
July 31st, 2023 at 2:01:05 PM permalink
No A graded picks today.
SOOPOO
SOOPOO
  • Threads: 122
  • Posts: 11022
Joined: Aug 8, 2010
August 1st, 2023 at 10:29:41 AM permalink
Quote: GreenZero

Day 4

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6jDMHh27Qnqn_PwT2W0PXmPppWB85tkNodJgdb4g20/edit?usp=sharing
link to original post




What Sportsbook are you using for the odds? I just checked the 4 most recent bets, and two of them I can’t get as good odds as you got. And the other two I got better odds than you! One was much better.
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 1st, 2023 at 10:43:21 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: GreenZero

Day 4

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6jDMHh27Qnqn_PwT2W0PXmPppWB85tkNodJgdb4g20/edit?usp=sharing
link to original post




What Sportsbook are you using for the odds? I just checked the 4 most recent bets, and two of them I can’t get as good odds as you got. And the other two I got better odds than you! One was much better.
link to original post



Bovada. I'm only using 1 book and I also make these bets early like around 2am. Only using 1 book is a disadvantage but I don't want to throw a lot of money around.
Last edited by: GreenZero on Aug 1, 2023
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 1st, 2023 at 2:09:31 PM permalink
Wow! St.Louis Cardinals went from (-103) to (+111) on the moneyline. So much for getting the early line. SMH
DRich
DRich
  • Threads: 86
  • Posts: 11745
Joined: Jul 6, 2012
August 1st, 2023 at 2:54:08 PM permalink
Quote: GreenZero

Wow! St.Louis Cardinals went from (-103) to (+111) on the moneyline. So much for getting the early line. SMH
link to original post



Was there a pitching change or an announcement of someone sitting out?
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 1st, 2023 at 3:28:13 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Quote: GreenZero

Wow! St.Louis Cardinals went from (-103) to (+111) on the moneyline. So much for getting the early line. SMH
link to original post



Was there a pitching change or an announcement of someone sitting out?
link to original post[/

Not sure, could be because Gorman is out until tomorrow. Donovan done for the year.
lilredrooster
lilredrooster
  • Threads: 232
  • Posts: 6598
Joined: May 8, 2015
August 4th, 2023 at 4:40:32 AM permalink
.
I tracked your 7 days - every single day the thing went 8-12 - that seems really unlikely - am I somehow not reading this thing right________?

overall I got 56-84 - and I believe most of the wins were for much less than even money

if that's correct - that's a worse losing streak than many will ever have betting odds on faves

it might be a great idea to start betting against its picks -

just a thought - thanks for posting this - it's quite interesting

.
Please don't feed the trolls
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 4th, 2023 at 6:38:44 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

.
I tracked your 7 days - every single day the thing went 8-12 - that seems really unlikely - am I somehow not reading this thing right________?

overall I got 56-84 - and I believe most of the wins were for much less than even money

if that's correct - that's a worse losing streak than many will ever have betting odds on faves

it might be a great idea to start betting against its picks -

just a thought - thanks for posting this - it's quite interesting

.
link to original post



Hey no problem and you're welcome. Yeah you can see that the simulation prioritizes that +1.5 runline a lot! It looks for odds of anything of -160 or better and jumps on it. So far it has been pretty bad but I'm only 20 games in. I'm going to need a data set for a good 90 to 180 days to see what's really going on.
lilredrooster
lilredrooster
  • Threads: 232
  • Posts: 6598
Joined: May 8, 2015
August 4th, 2023 at 6:47:17 AM permalink
Quote: GreenZero


So far it has been pretty bad but I'm only 20 games in.


just curious if you don't mind my asking

what do you mean you're only 20 games in______?

the spreadsheet shows 20 picks every day - every day so far 8 wins and 12 losses

are you just playing certain games for certain reasons________?_________thanks

.
Please don't feed the trolls
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 4th, 2023 at 6:50:23 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: GreenZero


So far it has been pretty bad but I'm only 20 games in.


just curious if you don't mind my asking

what do you mean you're only 20 games in______?

the spreadsheet shows 20 picks every day - every day so far 8 wins and 12 losses

are you just playing certain games for certain reasons________?_________thanks

.
link to original post



Are you sure you are reading that correctly? For today there are only 4 picks.
lilredrooster
lilredrooster
  • Threads: 232
  • Posts: 6598
Joined: May 8, 2015
August 4th, 2023 at 7:31:56 AM permalink
.
oh, okay - my bad - I didn't look at the detail

I thought each day you posted was one complete day - now I see it's several days in each posting - it's continuous

.
Please don't feed the trolls
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 4th, 2023 at 7:46:42 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

.
oh, okay - my bad - I didn't look at the detail

I thought each day you posted was one complete day - now I see it's several days in each posting - it's continuous

.
link to original post



Yes. It's updated throughout the day. I'm going to be tracking this for a long time or if my bankroll runs out lol.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6jDMHh27Qnqn_PwT2W0PXmPppWB85tkNodJgdb4g20/edit?usp=sharing
Last edited by: GreenZero on Aug 4, 2023
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 5th, 2023 at 11:41:06 PM permalink
Day 9

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6jDMHh27Qnqn_PwT2W0PXmPppWB85tkNodJgdb4g20/edit?usp=sharing
Last edited by: GreenZero on Aug 6, 2023
Dieter
Administrator
Dieter
  • Threads: 16
  • Posts: 5564
Joined: Jul 23, 2014
August 6th, 2023 at 4:12:22 AM permalink
The link doesn't seem to be changing, day to day.
May the cards fall in your favor.
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 6th, 2023 at 7:39:49 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

The link doesn't seem to be changing, day to day.
link to original post



It should be updated now.
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 6th, 2023 at 7:48:28 AM permalink
Sunday weekly recap.

So as you can see, this seems like just another simulation service that will get you no where. The amount of average vig I'm paying the books is ridiculous. which is around 20-25%. Even at 10%, you have to hit over 52.4% of your plays to profit at which I am no where near that lol. As you look at the line chart, it just continues to trend down. If I get below $100 I will pull the plug.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6jDMHh27Qnqn_PwT2W0PXmPppWB85tkNodJgdb4g20/edit?usp=sharing
Dieter
Administrator
Dieter
  • Threads: 16
  • Posts: 5564
Joined: Jul 23, 2014
August 6th, 2023 at 8:16:26 AM permalink
Quote: GreenZero

Quote: Dieter

The link doesn't seem to be changing, day to day.
link to original post



It should be updated now.
link to original post



Ahh... the data the link points to may be changing.

The link being posted seems identical for each day.
May the cards fall in your favor.
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 6th, 2023 at 8:18:08 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: GreenZero

Quote: Dieter

The link doesn't seem to be changing, day to day.
link to original post



It should be updated now.
link to original post



Ahh... the data the link points to may be changing.

The link being posted seems identical for each day.
link to original post



Yeah I update the spreadsheet daily. You can see the 2 plays for today correct?
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 9th, 2023 at 2:28:28 PM permalink
No A graded picks today.
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
August 10th, 2023 at 12:42:00 PM permalink
No A graded picks today.
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
GreenZero
GreenZero
  • Threads: 7
  • Posts: 103
Joined: Nov 16, 2021
Thanked by
OnceDear
August 12th, 2023 at 7:53:08 PM permalink
Ummm...yeah I think I've proven that these plays are absolutely a waste of time. Just another bull**** simulator that just helps you donate to the sportsbook machine.
I'm going to close it down. I say why waste my time and others. I'm sure you all would agree anyway. Small sample size but I think we all know where this is heading...lol.
OnceDear
OnceDear
  • Threads: 63
  • Posts: 7478
Joined: Jun 1, 2014
Thanked by
Dieter
August 13th, 2023 at 1:54:49 AM permalink
Quote: GreenZero

Ummm...yeah I think I've proven that these plays are absolutely a waste of time. Just another bull**** simulator that just helps you donate to the sportsbook machine.
I'm going to close it down. I say why waste my time and others. I'm sure you all would agree anyway. Small sample size but I think we all know where this is heading...lol.
link to original post

You gave it a shot and honestly reported. Cheers.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
lilredrooster
lilredrooster
  • Threads: 232
  • Posts: 6598
Joined: May 8, 2015
August 13th, 2023 at 2:47:39 AM permalink
.

is it possible you could post picks the opposite of what that thing (which I would guess is a computer) is picking________?

maybe because you're not actually posting its picks it wouldn't be against their rules

I'm predicting a nice profit from now until the end of the MLB season betting against it

just a thought - if it's too much trouble or you're not interested______ I can understand that

.
Please don't feed the trolls
AxelWolf
AxelWolf
  • Threads: 164
  • Posts: 22282
Joined: Oct 10, 2012
Thanked by
Dieter
August 13th, 2023 at 3:50:20 AM permalink
Quote: GreenZero

Ummm...yeah I think I've proven that these plays are absolutely a waste of time. Just another bull**** simulator that just helps you donate to the sportsbook machine.
I'm going to close it down. I say why waste my time and others. I'm sure you all would agree anyway. Small sample size but I think we all know where this is heading...lol.
link to original post

I suggest Unabated.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
  • Jump to: