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August 23rd, 2023 at 10:08:55 PM permalink
Both were actually hand made in NYC. Your neck of the woods.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 10:10:13 PM permalink
But think about it. Money comes and goes. But the clip - remains! Much more than a grand has passed through those clips, obviously.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 10:27:18 PM permalink
Not much labor in those I could make one in 5-10min if I had pre-made bar stock.
Maybe 20-30min if I had to melt material down and draw the wire.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 10:50:05 PM permalink
You have a point.

Well the 18K rose gold one weighs about 6g. So melt value alone about $265.

The platinum money clip, I have to get it out, it's not handy, I'll weigh it tomorrow but I believe it weighs a full ounce, so melt value about $950. Now if I weigh it tomorrow and it weighs only 20g then, okay, that's different. That one is really solid it's not a paper clip design though so it's quite heavy.

Typically, the lowest anyone sells jewelry for is 2X melt, and places like jewelry chains and department stores will sell for 4X melt, probably more. Places like Cartier, forgettaboutit, maybe like 20X melt.

So for me to have paid only 20-30% above melt isn't bad...and the only reason I got it that low is wholesale jewelry business connections.

But I would have paid 2X melt I like money clips. Especially with my initials on them.
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August 23rd, 2023 at 11:20:28 PM permalink
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The paper clip (the new one I got, the 18K rose gold one) was retail around a grand. I got it wholesale around $300. Maybe more like $400.

But the platinum clip, yes, I paid $1000. for it, actually a little more than that. Retail on it was over $2000. I will have to post a pic of the platinum one, I'm not using it lately it is too heavy for a wallet sized stack of cash.

Why is that odd? To some, paying thousands for a pinball machine might seem strange. Which, incidentally, did you get around to seeing Pinball: The Man Who Saved the Game (2022) yet?
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I did see the movie. I thought it was well done. I'm familiar with the history so it was nice to see it acted out.

I have paid a grand for a $.10 1950's comic book so I get it. But damn that just looked like a silly paper clip. 100 for $2 at the art supply store

It reminds me of that thousand dollar gold chocolate truffle. I mean why?
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August 23rd, 2023 at 11:21:18 PM permalink
I'm not knocking it, I make my own rings money clips etc... Its the only way you get something original.
Just observed how simple to make they are.

Right now I'm working on a set of 4 rings for both hands left identical to the right.
The first two are done, pointer finger, pyramids laid out precisely as those in Giza. material Silver .999
The next two I'm considering the same however the ring will remain silver and the pyramids will be
fire Opal. The idea is to produce stunningly beautiful rings that are also able to stop an
attacker with a single blow. Beauty & The Beast if you will.
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August 24th, 2023 at 5:01:20 AM permalink
I find a rubber band to be a good alternative to a money clip. The friction from the rubber makes it a lot less likely to slip out of your pocket and also makes it more noticeable if someone tries to pickpocket you.
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August 24th, 2023 at 6:04:19 AM permalink
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Italian is NOT a RACE. It is an ethnicity.

"Guinea" is an ethnic SLUR.
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Yes, I stand corrected.

Anyway, back on topic, I've been a fan of securing my bankroll with a rubber band. Mostly because I have a big bag of rubber bands that I bought 15+ years ago that never really gets used for anything else.
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August 24th, 2023 at 10:50:58 AM permalink
MDawg, I think it’s great you enjoy your money clips! My father in law, MHRIP, loved his! He was a ‘cash’ guy, not a credit card guy like I am. I forgot exactly when or where he got his, but it meant something more than just a ‘money holder’ to him. He also had a few foreign bills from trips that surrounded the American cash.

I virtually never need a money clip as my wallet easily hold whatever cash I want to carry.
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August 24th, 2023 at 11:39:01 AM permalink
Yes, I do that too, put foreign bills in there sometimes.

The amount of cash I carry is not so much, even with ten $100. bills and twenty or more other bills, to not fit in my wallet, which is a large sized trifold that fits cash and a lot of credit cards and still folds well.

The platinum clip weighs a full ounce I just weighed it.
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August 24th, 2023 at 11:40:15 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

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Italian is NOT a RACE. It is an ethnicity.

"Guinea" is an ethnic SLUR.
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Yes, I stand corrected.

Anyway, back on topic, I've been a fan of securing my bankroll with a rubber band. Mostly because I have a big bag of rubber bands that I bought 15+ years ago that never really gets used for anything else.
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That's what the Amish I used to deal with in the Indiana did. They would carry a roll of bills in their bib overalls about the size of a baseball and it was always secured with a bunch of rubber bands. Thousands of dollars sometimes, they always paid cash for everything because they didn't belong to any banks. And that's all they dealt with was cash. I knew a pretend Amish guy who did that, by pretend I mean he dealt in antique business and he dressed exactly like an Amish guy and carried his money in a big wad with rubber bands, he got a lot of business because people thought he was Amish. He used to flash the bankroll all the time and everybody knew he carried it and finally about 12 or 14 years ago somebody followed him home and murdered him in his own kitchen for his money. True story, I could dig up the newspaper clip on the internet to prove it. None of us who had known were surprised, it was just a matter of time. They caught the guys who did it and I think they're both doing life. There is no death penalty in Michigan.
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August 24th, 2023 at 11:50:37 AM permalink
If he had lived in an actual Amish community, I assume the robbers would have been less able to get to his home without standing out.

I have heard of burglars targeting Amish homes while they are not home (such as Sunday mornings) though.
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August 24th, 2023 at 1:16:53 PM permalink
MDawg

Perhaps you missed one of my posts because you didn't respond so posting again.

You don't play slots so may not be aware but each and every W2-G jackpots not only is tax reportable but tax PAYABLE on the spot.

You are given a choice not only to be paid cash or check but also tax deductions or full payout

Federal is flat 24% (if an overpayment at end of year you file and get a refund.)

Of course this is totally different from table games when you win say $3,000 they just hand you chips. You can't ask the dealer to remove 24% and file them with IRS. Nor at the cage either correct me if I am wrong.

My point is I don't believe converting dirty money is predicate on converting to check. Rather, it would be fine if not better to just pay your Federal and state if possible.

I really don't believe the IRS will be suspicious of someone who pays 24% taxes on each and every W2-G win. In fact it probably makes that tax payer golden in their book.

And as far as banks go depositing cash from jackpots with taxes shown to be paid (the deduction is right on the W2-G just like any paycheck from an employer) should not raise their hackles either.

And even better, a tax refund at end of year is yet another check to deposit to legitimize your money. What better way to clean your money than direct from uncle Sam.

BTW, The two choices are both available. You can pay your Federal taxes and then ask for a check for the balance.

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August 24th, 2023 at 1:37:22 PM permalink
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I'll weigh it tomorrow but I believe it weighs a full ounce, so melt value about $950. That one is really solid it's not a paper clip design though so it's quite heavy.



Weighs a full ounce. Solid Platinum (950).

I blurred my initials on it.


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August 24th, 2023 at 1:57:46 PM permalink
If playing a $25 VP machine, you still need four of a kind, a straight flush or a Royal Flush on a Jacks or Better machine to get a W-2G. I've been through this before trying to hit 4 of a kind on single coin 25 cent play before running through $40 of free play and losing 62.5% of my money without hitting the 4 of a kind. How would that fare at a $25 machine?
Well, I'll be betting 500X more per spin and with a free play buy-in of $20,000 (if such free play amounts even exist) and betting $125/spin for 160 spins to start off with. A 62.5% loss would be a loss of $12,500 leaving me with $7,500 left to recoup with a $3,125 win on a 4 of a kind or a $6,250 win on a straight flush. I'm so far behind already on 160 spins it's ridiculous. I'm not saying all 160 spin sessions are like this, but enough are that it's a tragedy, unless it's all on the free play tab.

If playing Double Double Bonus VP with jackpots on the order of $6,250, $10K, $20K or $50K for certain 4 of a kinds, that might work out better.
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August 24th, 2023 at 2:35:53 PM permalink
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If playing a $25 VP machine, you still need four of a kind, a straight flush or a Royal Flush on a Jacks or Better machine to get a W-2G. I've been through this before trying to hit 4 of a kind on single coin 25 cent play before running through $40 of free play and losing 62.5% of my money without hitting the 4 of a kind. How would that fare at a $25 machine?
Well, I'll be betting 500X more per spin and with a free play buy-in of $20,000 (if such free play amounts even exist) and betting $125/spin for 160 spins to start off with. A 62.5% loss would be a loss of $12,500 leaving me with $7,500 left to recoup with a $3,125 win on a 4 of a kind or a $6,250 win on a straight flush. I'm so far behind already on 160 spins it's ridiculous. I'm not saying all 160 spin sessions are like this, but enough are that it's a tragedy, unless it's all on the free play tab.

If playing Double Double Bonus VP with jackpots on the order of $6,250, $10K, $20K or $50K for certain 4 of a kinds, that might work out better.
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Maybe you should switch to slots
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August 24th, 2023 at 2:40:40 PM permalink
I haven't seen $1 denom Dancing Drums or 88 Fortune machines yet, but I wasn't looking.
Here's one from last week.
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August 24th, 2023 at 3:10:41 PM permalink
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Quote: MDawg

I'll weigh it tomorrow but I believe it weighs a full ounce, so melt value about $950. That one is really solid it's not a paper clip design though so it's quite heavy.



Weighs a full ounce. Solid Platinum (950).

I blurred my initials on it.



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Maybe instead of your initials you should put DawgFather.
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August 24th, 2023 at 7:11:29 PM permalink
Father Dawg?

Well yes, Pope does mean or derive from Father. 😁
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August 24th, 2023 at 7:13:29 PM permalink
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MDawg

Perhaps you missed one of my posts because you didn't respond so posting again.

You don't play slots so may not be aware but each and every W2-G jackpots not only is tax reportable but tax PAYABLE on the spot.

You are given a choice not only to be paid cash or check but also tax deductions or full payout

Federal is flat 24% (if an overpayment at end of year you file and get a refund.)

Of course this is totally different from table games when you win say $3,000 they just hand you chips. You can't ask the dealer to remove 24% and file them with IRS. Nor at the cage either correct me if I am wrong.

My point is I don't believe converting dirty money is predicate on converting to check. Rather, it would be fine if not better to just pay your Federal and state if possible.

I really don't believe the IRS will be suspicious of someone who pays 24% taxes on each and every W2-G win. In fact it probably makes that tax payer golden in their book.

And as far as banks go depositing cash from jackpots with taxes shown to be paid (the deduction is right on the W2-G just like any paycheck from an employer) should not raise their hackles either.

And even better, a tax refund at end of year is yet another check to deposit to legitimize your money. What better way to clean your money than direct from uncle Sam.

BTW, The two choices are both available. You can pay your Federal taxes and then ask for a check for the balance.

(Don't worry I already know your answer. Once you stubbornly take a stand that something won't work not even showing you directly to your face will change your mind)
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When you ignore my posts I already know you believe you have lost the argument and don't wish to answer.

Posting for the third time what's quoted above.

You really have zero thoughts on the matter?
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August 24th, 2023 at 7:17:11 PM permalink
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MDawg

Perhaps you missed one of my posts because you didn't respond so posting again.

You don't play slots so may not be aware but each and every W2-G jackpots not only is tax reportable but tax PAYABLE on the spot.

You are given a choice not only to be paid cash or check but also tax deductions or full payout

Federal is flat 24% (if an overpayment at end of year you file and get a refund.)

Of course this is totally different from table games when you win say $3,000 they just hand you chips. You can't ask the dealer to remove 24% and file them with IRS. Nor at the cage either correct me if I am wrong.

My point is I don't believe converting dirty money is predicate on converting to check. Rather, it would be fine if not better to just pay your Federal and state if possible.

I really don't believe the IRS will be suspicious of someone who pays 24% taxes on each and every W2-G win. In fact it probably makes that tax payer golden in their book.

And as far as banks go depositing cash from jackpots with taxes shown to be paid (the deduction is right on the W2-G just like any paycheck from an employer) should not raise their hackles either.

And even better, a tax refund at end of year is yet another check to deposit to legitimize your money. What better way to clean your money than direct from uncle Sam.

BTW, The two choices are both available. You can pay your Federal taxes and then ask for a check for the balance.

(Don't worry I already know your answer. Once you stubbornly take a stand that something won't work not even showing you directly to your face will change your mind)
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When you ignore my posts I already know you believe you have lost the argument and don't wish to answer.

Posting for the third time what's quoted above.

You really have zero thoughts on the matter?
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August 24th, 2023 at 7:44:21 PM permalink
Got some overlapping tournaments coming up, but I have pulled those off before. I have entered two in one day, won one before. Entered in one day, lost both before too!

Typically I get blown out of one of them quickly enough so that it doesn't affect the other one.
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August 25th, 2023 at 9:35:55 PM permalink
I ask that you not state what my silence means. You may say that you think it means this or that, but to say that it means something absolutely is to misstate my intention to the point of putting words in my mouth, and right or wrong this forum has a rule against misquoting.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/77/#post897603
Don't worry I already know your answer.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/38462-laundering-cash-to-check-at-table-games/#post897739
so he knows I am correct

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/77/#post897674
When you ignore my posts I already know you believe you have lost the argument

What D.Oz is doing is not saying he THINKS that I must agree with him and have given up, but that he KNOWS.
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August 25th, 2023 at 9:39:02 PM permalink
Now go get yourself a decent money clip. 😇

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August 25th, 2023 at 10:32:42 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I ask that you not state what my silence means. You may say that you think it means this or that, but to say that it means something absolutely is to misstate my intention to the point of putting words in my mouth, and right or wrong this forum has a rule against misquoting.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/77/#post897603
Don't worry I already know your answer.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/38462-laundering-cash-to-check-at-table-games/#post897739
so he knows I am correct

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/77/#post897674
When you ignore my posts I already know you believe you have lost the argument

What D.Oz is doing is not saying he THINKS that I must agree with him and have given up, but that he KNOWS.
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A new first. Misquoting silence. SMH!
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August 25th, 2023 at 10:33:09 PM permalink
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I ask that you not state what my silence means. You may say that you think it means this or that, but to say that it means something absolutely is to misstate my intention to the point of putting words in my mouth, and right or wrong this forum has a rule against misquoting.

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August 25th, 2023 at 10:34:38 PM permalink
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Quote: MDawg

I ask that you not state what my silence means. You may say that you think it means this or that, but to say that it means something absolutely is to misstate my intention to the point of putting words in my mouth, and right or wrong this forum has a rule against misquoting.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/77/#post897603
Don't worry I already know your answer.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/38462-laundering-cash-to-check-at-table-games/#post897739
so he knows I am correct

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/77/#post897674
When you ignore my posts I already know you believe you have lost the argument

What D.Oz is doing is not saying he THINKS that I must agree with him and have given up, but that he KNOWS.
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A new first. Misquoting silence. SMH!
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LOL, you have had some zingers lately.
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August 26th, 2023 at 7:25:27 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: darkoz

Quote: MDawg

I ask that you not state what my silence means. You may say that you think it means this or that, but to say that it means something absolutely is to misstate my intention to the point of putting words in my mouth, and right or wrong this forum has a rule against misquoting.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/77/#post897603
Don't worry I already know your answer.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/38462-laundering-cash-to-check-at-table-games/#post897739
so he knows I am correct

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/77/#post897674
When you ignore my posts I already know you believe you have lost the argument

What D.Oz is doing is not saying he THINKS that I must agree with him and have given up, but that he KNOWS.
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A new first. Misquoting silence. SMH!
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LOL, you have had some zingers lately.
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So, I have a theory about MDawgs' background. Is it permissible to offer a plausible speculation without getting suspended? The reason is that he gets a pass on posts that would be suspendable offenses for the rest of us.

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August 26th, 2023 at 12:16:41 PM permalink
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So, I have a theory about MDawgs' background. Is it permissible to offer a plausible speculation without getting suspended? The reason is that he gets a pass on posts that would be suspendable offenses for the rest of us.

tuttigym
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If your theory would amount to doxing MDawg then it is not permissible. Doxing involves revealing the personal identity of a forum member who wishes to remain anonymous or personal information for the purpose of shaming or harassing an individual.

If your speculation is that MDawg plays the banjo and is a 2nd child, then that would be permissible.

You are welcome to send me a PM and check with me as to whether the content of your intended post is permissible.
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August 26th, 2023 at 12:45:21 PM permalink
This thread SUCKS when MDawg is not at the tables. Like a thousand posts on if someone can get a check? Get back to Vegas, MDawg!!!
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August 26th, 2023 at 3:46:47 PM permalink
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If your speculation is that MDawg plays the banjo and is a 2nd child, then that would be permissible.

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Oh my God, this kid plays banjo and is a second child! Is this what you're inferring about Mdawg?

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August 26th, 2023 at 3:48:03 PM permalink
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Oh my God, this kid plays banjo and is a second child! Is this what you're inferring about Mdawg?


Drew, but I know this:

You take this man and turn him over

to the sheriff, there'll be a trial all right.

Trial by jury.

So what?

We killed a man, Drew.

Shot him in the back.

A mountain man.

Cracker.

Gives us somethin' to consider.

Shit, all these people are related.

I'll be damned if I'll come back

and stand trial...

...with this man's aunt and uncle...

...maybe his mama and his daddy

sittin' in the jury box.
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August 26th, 2023 at 3:54:09 PM permalink
Will be back in Vegas soon enough, SooPoo. Taking care of some things around California first.

I'm in an exclusive tournament with only about forty players at one casino, and several others elsewhere, and some drawings. Plus massive amounts of promo chips.

They always want to lure me back, especially when they're hoping that I might give back some of what I won. Which, sometimes I do. Only to go back later and win back more!

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August 26th, 2023 at 4:08:09 PM permalink
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DarkOz saying MDawg is the real deal

seems like the Wizard is saying something similar

who is going to believe a guy that states that he wins and wins big almost every single time he plays

and keeps getting tons of valuable comps - for his entire life - what is that now - maybe 30 years

what a bunch of nonsense

DarkOz and the Wiz have been conned

it's laughable - who is he going to fool - who is going to believe that crap - not me

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August 26th, 2023 at 4:14:34 PM permalink
Guacamole in Vegas:



And Dungeness crab at home.



Why leave home at all? 😁

They do have a good version at Mott 32 but a lot of the time they are out of the crab, or can't provide it for take out.
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August 26th, 2023 at 4:22:40 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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DarkOz saying MDawg is the real deal

seems like the Wizard is saying something similar

who is going to believe a guy that states that he wins and wins big almost every single time he plays

and keeps getting tons of valuable comps - for his entire life - what is that now - maybe 30 years

what a bunch of nonsense

DarkOz and the Wiz have been conned

it's laughable - who is he going to fool - who is going to believe that crap - not me

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My quote was only that MDawg was a real human being as opposed to say Nathan which was actually a woman posing as a dude.

The Wizard met MDawg. He's for real.

Any other use of my quote is misquoting and a misrepresentation of my statement.

How ironic if you have read the last page about complaints over misquoting and misrepresentation.
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August 26th, 2023 at 4:25:02 PM permalink
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They do have a good version at Mott 32 but a lot of the time they are out of the crab, or can't provide it for take out.



Crab is still my favorite food. There is nothing like some sweet crab dipped in butter. Living in Florida now I have access to cheaper Stone Crab claws which I love.
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August 26th, 2023 at 4:44:59 PM permalink
Given that I've given up on red meat for now, going on six months now, I sometimes feel guilty eating shellfish because I know it too contains a lot of cholesterol, but still, we eat a fair amount.

In fact, the first time I got life insurance the agent advised me not to eat a lot of shrimp or anything like that the night before the health exam. I wonder if cholesterol can "spike" the way blood sugar does?

Speaking of sugar, these "low or no sugar Kombuchas" turned out to be a mistake.


Didn't realize they contain stevia,


assumed they just have lower sugar content. I hate the taste of all of those sugar substitutes, although stevia is actually a natural substance of some kind.
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August 26th, 2023 at 4:58:32 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: lilredrooster

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DarkOz saying MDawg is the real deal

seems like the Wizard is saying something similar

who is going to believe a guy that states that he wins and wins big almost every single time he plays

and keeps getting tons of valuable comps - for his entire life - what is that now - maybe 30 years

what a bunch of nonsense

DarkOz and the Wiz have been conned

it's laughable - who is he going to fool - who is going to believe that crap - not me

.
link to original post



My quote was only that MDawg was a real human being as opposed to say Nathan which was actually a woman posing as a dude.

The Wizard met MDawg. He's for real.

Any other use of my quote is misquoting and a misrepresentation of my statement.

How ironic if you have read the last page about complaints over misquoting and misrepresentation.
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this is what you posted on 4/22 2021 at 7:16:

"I.E. does it appear MDawg can consistently overcome the -EV of Baccarat?"

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 8:50:

"I believe he is doing things that are much more intricate than people give him credit for and that extend beyond just Baccarat wagers"

you embarrassed yourself with your endorsement of the little poodle

you implied - without actually saying it - that yes - maybe he can win almost every single time he plays and win big

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 1:54:

"The Wiz has confirmed he is doing something that gives him an advantage above and beyond simply beating an -ev game through luck and that's enough for me

We will all have to wait for the MDawg book to be published!"

you try to pass yourself off as a gambling expert

you're no expert - obviously


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August 26th, 2023 at 5:20:12 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Given that I've given up on red meat for now, going on six months now, I sometimes feel guilty eating shellfish because I know it too contains a lot of cholesterol, but still, we eat a fair amount.


A tower of cholesterol!

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August 26th, 2023 at 5:38:36 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: darkoz

Quote: lilredrooster

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DarkOz saying MDawg is the real deal

seems like the Wizard is saying something similar

who is going to believe a guy that states that he wins and wins big almost every single time he plays

and keeps getting tons of valuable comps - for his entire life - what is that now - maybe 30 years

what a bunch of nonsense

DarkOz and the Wiz have been conned

it's laughable - who is he going to fool - who is going to believe that crap - not me

.
link to original post



My quote was only that MDawg was a real human being as opposed to say Nathan which was actually a woman posing as a dude.

The Wizard met MDawg. He's for real.

Any other use of my quote is misquoting and a misrepresentation of my statement.

How ironic if you have read the last page about complaints over misquoting and misrepresentation.
link to original post



this is what you posted on 4/22 2021 at 7:16:

"I.E. does it appear MDawg can consistently overcome the -EV of Baccarat?"

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 8:50:

"I believe he is doing things that are much more intricate than people give him credit for and that extend beyond just Baccarat wagers"

you embarrassed yourself with your endorsement of the little poodle

you implied - without actually saying it - that yes - maybe he can win almost every single time he plays and win big

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 1:54:

"The Wiz has confirmed he is doing something that gives him an advantage above and beyond simply beating an -ev game through luck and that's enough for me

We will all have to wait for the MDawg book to be published!"

you try to pass yourself off as a gambling expert

you're no expert - obviously


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Deleted. Thought I was responding to MDawg
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August 26th, 2023 at 5:49:38 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: darkoz

Quote: lilredrooster

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DarkOz saying MDawg is the real deal

seems like the Wizard is saying something similar

who is going to believe a guy that states that he wins and wins big almost every single time he plays

and keeps getting tons of valuable comps - for his entire life - what is that now - maybe 30 years

what a bunch of nonsense

DarkOz and the Wiz have been conned

it's laughable - who is he going to fool - who is going to believe that crap - not me

.
link to original post



My quote was only that MDawg was a real human being as opposed to say Nathan which was actually a woman posing as a dude.

The Wizard met MDawg. He's for real.

Any other use of my quote is misquoting and a misrepresentation of my statement.

How ironic if you have read the last page about complaints over misquoting and misrepresentation.
link to original post



this is what you posted on 4/22 2021 at 7:16:

"I.E. does it appear MDawg can consistently overcome the -EV of Baccarat?"

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 8:50:

"I believe he is doing things that are much more intricate than people give him credit for and that extend beyond just Baccarat wagers"

you embarrassed yourself with your endorsement of the little poodle

you implied - without actually saying it - that yes - maybe he can win almost every single time he plays and win big

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 1:54:

"The Wiz has confirmed he is doing something that gives him an advantage above and beyond simply beating an -ev game through luck and that's enough for me

We will all have to wait for the MDawg book to be published!"

you try to pass yourself off as a gambling expert

you're no expert - obviously


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My quote that MDawg is for real (which you didn't post in your reply) was indicating he is a real person.

Wizard I believe did some sort of retraction later. It's all melding together and I am not going through a whole bunch of posts.

But I do believe MDawg has an advantage and I am the only person on here who gave a credible view of what it could be.

MDawg remained silent and never replied whether I was right or wrong so (IN MY OPINION) I am correct and MDawg doesn't want to discuss it.

As to your insult about me passing myself off as a gambling expert I specialize in multi-carding. There are some ancillary aspects like taxes etc that I have learned about. I really don't understand your animosity. Many people have claimed I can't be using so many players cards. They are wrong. I attacked the case of MDawg from that angle. Just because he sounds unbelievable doesn't mean he outright is lying.

Now EB is a different story. Trends that are imaginary and hit and run that is really not win and leave and all the other nonsense I don't abide.
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August 26th, 2023 at 7:04:34 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: darkoz

Quote: lilredrooster

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DarkOz saying MDawg is the real deal

seems like the Wizard is saying something similar

who is going to believe a guy that states that he wins and wins big almost every single time he plays

and keeps getting tons of valuable comps - for his entire life - what is that now - maybe 30 years

what a bunch of nonsense

DarkOz and the Wiz have been conned

it's laughable - who is he going to fool - who is going to believe that crap - not me

.
link to original post



My quote was only that MDawg was a real human being as opposed to say Nathan which was actually a woman posing as a dude.

The Wizard met MDawg. He's for real.

Any other use of my quote is misquoting and a misrepresentation of my statement.

How ironic if you have read the last page about complaints over misquoting and misrepresentation.
link to original post



this is what you posted on 4/22 2021 at 7:16:

"I.E. does it appear MDawg can consistently overcome the -EV of Baccarat?"

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 8:50:

"I believe he is doing things that are much more intricate than people give him credit for and that extend beyond just Baccarat wagers"

you embarrassed yourself with your endorsement of the little poodle

you implied - without actually saying it - that yes - maybe he can win almost every single time he plays and win big

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 1:54:

"The Wiz has confirmed he is doing something that gives him an advantage above and beyond simply beating an -ev game through luck and that's enough for me

We will all have to wait for the MDawg book to be published!"

you try to pass yourself off as a gambling expert

you're no expert - obviously
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lilredrooster:

Please explain to me what you are referring to when you say "the little poodle" as I have bolded above. A failure to respond will probably result in a suspension of you for personal insult.
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August 26th, 2023 at 7:20:58 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: darkoz

Quote: lilredrooster

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DarkOz saying MDawg is the real deal

seems like the Wizard is saying something similar

who is going to believe a guy that states that he wins and wins big almost every single time he plays

and keeps getting tons of valuable comps - for his entire life - what is that now - maybe 30 years

what a bunch of nonsense

DarkOz and the Wiz have been conned

it's laughable - who is he going to fool - who is going to believe that crap - not me

.
link to original post



My quote was only that MDawg was a real human being as opposed to say Nathan which was actually a woman posing as a dude.

The Wizard met MDawg. He's for real.

Any other use of my quote is misquoting and a misrepresentation of my statement.

How ironic if you have read the last page about complaints over misquoting and misrepresentation.
link to original post



this is what you posted on 4/22 2021 at 7:16:

"I.E. does it appear MDawg can consistently overcome the -EV of Baccarat?"

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 8:50:

"I believe he is doing things that are much more intricate than people give him credit for and that extend beyond just Baccarat wagers"

you embarrassed yourself with your endorsement of the little poodle

you implied - without actually saying it - that yes - maybe he can win almost every single time he plays and win big

and then you posted this on 4/22/2021 at 1:54:

"The Wiz has confirmed he is doing something that gives him an advantage above and beyond simply beating an -ev game through luck and that's enough for me

We will all have to wait for the MDawg book to be published!"

you try to pass yourself off as a gambling expert

you're no expert - obviously
link to original post



lilredrooster:

Please explain to me what you are referring to when you say "the little poodle" as I have bolded above. A failure to respond will probably result in a suspension of you for personal insult.
link to original post



Hey not to mention saying I try to pass myself off as a gambling expert and saying I'm no expert.

That really hurt my feelings
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August 27th, 2023 at 12:46:44 AM permalink
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"The Wiz has confirmed he is doing something that gives him an advantage above and beyond simply beating an -ev game through luck and that's enough for me

NOPE!! You were miss reading what The Wizard said. And I believe The Wizard clarified his original statement or something like that, which caused a ruckus, MDwag was probably screaming NDA and stuff that got it retracted(?). Go back and research, I can't remember exactly what/how it went down.

Assuming MDawg plays at the levels he does, assuming he plays as often as he claims, and assuming he has a small advantage, it absolutely wouldn't account for the odds-defying number of winning sessions/trips, etc.

If he occasionally knows the next card out, I still don't believe that would cause such a high win rate.

And, if he's employing all the AP moves that could account for such high win rates there's no chance the casinos would be rolling out the red carpet day after day, year after year.

Also, all the system player type of talk he has included over the years doesn't jive with legitimate AP Methods.

Could MDawg be doing something that gives him a slight advantage regarding comps rebates etc, yes, but that wouldn't explain the phenomenal win-rates.
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August 27th, 2023 at 1:48:25 AM permalink
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my criticism of DarkOz yesterday was over the top and too strong
he is a gambling expert - obviously
I apologize for that and also for the poodle remark
I also apologize to the Wizard if I misrepresented his remarks
I was drunk yesterday - not really an excuse - but the best I have
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August 27th, 2023 at 3:40:21 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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my criticism of DarkOz yesterday was over the top and too strong
he is a gambling expert - obviously
I apologize for that and also for the poodle remark
I also apologize to the Wizard if I misrepresented his remarks
I was drunk yesterday - not really an excuse - but the best I have
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That's good enough for me.

Can't speak for the others.

Thanks
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August 27th, 2023 at 7:40:43 AM permalink
Being drunken is not an excuse for losing control of yourself. Members have been nuked for saying things while drunken.

This is one in a long series of anti-MDawg trolling remarks including the last one that got you suspended, where Wizard wrote:

It's not just this post, but many others. As a reminder, nobody is required to believe anybody. One can even politely point out the ridiculously long odds of some claims, like Alan's 18 yo's. However, at some point, it becomes trolling, if done excessively and with too much sarcasm.

and suspended you yet again for more of the same as what you posted yesterday.

You didn't even name MDawg by name in your apology just an oblique "and also for the poodle remark" nor did you apologize for the continued trolling remarks directed against me or for saying that Wizard had been conned.

In the lilredrooster quitting gambling thread you started you and others discussed problem gambling, and cross addiction was mentioned. If you have both a gambling and drinking problem, maybe you should consider stopping both. Good luck.


Anyway hope this sort of thing will remain in the past.
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August 27th, 2023 at 10:07:25 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Being drunken is not an excuse for losing control of yourself. Members have been nuked for saying things while drunken.

This is one in a long series of anti-MDawg trolling remarks including the last one that got you suspended, where Wizard wrote:

It's not just this post, but many others. As a reminder, nobody is required to believe anybody. One can even politely point out the ridiculously long odds of some claims, like Alan's 18 yo's. However, at some point, it becomes trolling, if done excessively and with too much sarcasm.

and suspended you yet again for more of the same as what you posted yesterday.

You didn't even name MDawg by name in your apology just an oblique "and also for the poodle remark" nor did you apologize for the continued trolling remarks directed against me or for saying that Wizard had been conned.

In the lilredrooster quitting gambling thread you started you and others discussed problem gambling, and cross addiction was mentioned. If you have both a gambling and drinking problem, maybe you should consider stopping both. Good luck.


Anyway hope this sort of thing will remain in the past.
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Inspired by the Wizard (?) lilredrooster took it a step further and has actually provided some interesting info on Betting The NFL . His Data shows a nice ROI as far as NFL AP betting goes. It's a simple concept someone without any real knowledge can... bet it...forget it, and it be profitable. If the data holds true it's fairly valuable. Let me know if anything you have said or done gambling-related has resulted in anybody other than Mike and yourself profiting(DO-2k-3k, Mike +500?...
Good Job MDawg.). Let me know if you have shown and proven you have helped anyone here learn how to profit from casinos.
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August 28th, 2023 at 8:21:15 PM permalink
I receive PMs regularly from people who appreciate the Adventures of MDawg.

We know of at least a couple members who have posted about benefiting.

As far as lilredrooster his gambling is to the point where he is considering quitting, no? As Even Bob might say, "What does that tell you." I mean, I have considered stopping myself at times, because the ups and downs aren't always fun, no matter what the end results.

In any case, it would seem that you've done nothing your adult life other than hustle via casinos? That's not my thing at all, this is just something I do on the side for fun and profit.

What's interesting though is that even though you earn in no way "other than" through casinos, you don't know anything much about high limit table game play, high rolling, credit lines, high end comps, etc. (although you're not shy about going on and on about these subjects as if you are an authority on them).

There are trees, branches, leaves...and then there are roots. All parts of the plant may be nice, but I concentrate on the highest branches.
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