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June 6th, 2023 at 2:29:52 AM permalink
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I'm thinking about quitting gambling

this is my history:

the best time I ever had gambling is when I was younger counting at BJ
I made some good money but I wasn't a high roller
but the amount I made was significant to my financial situation

after that I only bet sports and horses - betting small

I made a tiny amount betting sports and lost a tiny amount betting horses

my financial situation is dramatically different now - I'm not willing to bet huge where it would really make an impact - so what's the point___?

the best way I can describe my feeling about it is that old B.B. King song "The Thrill is Gone"

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June 6th, 2023 at 8:19:48 AM permalink
Maybe you could just use the Soopoo method and just bet small when you get great advantages. His $10 bets seem to entertain him and bring in a net profit. It doesn't sound like it requires much of a time investment.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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June 6th, 2023 at 12:17:03 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Maybe you could just use the Soopoo method and just bet small when you get great advantages. His $10 bets seem to entertain him and bring in a net profit. It doesn't sound like it requires much of a time investment.
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Yes, but the Rooster is saying he doesn't want significant risk and without that there is no significant
gain and with that there is no thrill.
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June 6th, 2023 at 12:22:24 PM permalink
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Yes, but the Rooster is saying he doesn't want significant risk and without that there is no significant
gain and with that there is no thrill.


exactly

I imagine my Dad's face if he knew I was betting many thou on a sporting event
he would be disappointed in me

he's long gone - but that still effects me

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June 6th, 2023 at 1:06:35 PM permalink
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Yes, but the Rooster is saying he doesn't want significant risk and without that there is no significant
gain and with that there is no thrill.


exactly

I imagine my Dad's face if he knew I was betting many thou on a sporting event
he would be disappointed in me

he's long gone - but that still effects me

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A wise man told me it is very difficult to make good decisions in the midst of chaos and confliction.
He taught me to step out of the land of confusion and give myself time & peace to think clearly.

Abstain for 90 days then think about what you should do. In those 90 days your subconscious
will be working on the problem for you.
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June 6th, 2023 at 1:13:50 PM permalink
When I started my decade or so hiatus, I missed casino play for about a year. After that, not so much. We even went to Vegas somewhat regularly including even for extended trips during that time and I never played a penny.

Over all, it's not just about winning or losing but the TIME and energy spent. If that time and energy could be spent more productively, then casino (or any sort of gaming) play becomes a negative thing, even if winning.
I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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June 6th, 2023 at 1:24:17 PM permalink
Iím of the opinion any routine frequency of gambling sort of hijacks our brains reward system and desensitizes it gradually, in the same way drug abuse does. I donít think it really matters much whether someone only gambles with an edge, has what people would consider a gambling problem, or anything in between for it as long as itís frequent enough.

I used to be fanatical about fantasy sports 10-15 years ago, playing in a minimum of a half dozen leagues at a time with daily updating/activity. Havenít played in a single fantasy sports league in a decade since started gambling with high degree of frequency for an income, completely desensitized the part of the brain that gets any enjoyment from participating in any sort of game.
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June 6th, 2023 at 1:43:13 PM permalink
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Iím of the opinion any routine frequency of gambling sort of hijacks our brains reward system and desensitizes it gradually, in the same way drug abuse does. I donít think it really matters much whether someone only gambles with an edge, has what people would consider a gambling problem, or anything in between for it as long as itís frequent enough.

I used to be fanatical about fantasy sports 10-15 years ago, playing in a minimum of a half dozen leagues at a time with daily updating/activity. Havenít played in a single fantasy sports league in a decade since started gambling with high degree of frequency for an income, completely desensitized the part of the brain that gets any enjoyment from participating in any sort of game.
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You are a wise man. I play one FF league all friends its fun It costs minimal time when its over there is no more.

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June 6th, 2023 at 1:49:29 PM permalink
If the price of everything is going to go up 1000-fold because of hyperinflation, the only job that could keep up with that is a vast winning streak in the casino.

This country is ditching its currency for US Dollar. Here's why.
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June 6th, 2023 at 2:07:41 PM permalink
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If the price of everything is going to go up 1000-fold because of hyperinflation, the only job that could keep up with that is a vast winning streak in the casino.

This country is ditching its currency for US Dollar. Here's why.


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Please stop hijacking threads by interjecting off topic nut job the-sky-is-falling economic theories.
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June 6th, 2023 at 2:12:21 PM permalink
The sky was falling until a couple days ago. Anyway, Lebanon's biggest bill is worth $1.
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June 6th, 2023 at 2:15:17 PM permalink
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The sky was falling until a couple days ago.
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During the Silicon Valley Bank failure you were fearing that in a couple weeks or so no one would be able to cash a check anymore in the US. I'm not going to reply further here as this would just be prolonging your hijack.

As to the OP, I'm glad you've seemed to come to peace with where you are with your gambling. I imagine I'll be there someday too.
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June 6th, 2023 at 3:16:31 PM permalink
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Quote: DRich

Maybe you could just use the Soopoo method and just bet small when you get great advantages. His $10 bets seem to entertain him and bring in a net profit. It doesn't sound like it requires much of a time investment.
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Yes, but the Rooster is saying he doesn't want significant risk and without that there is no significant
gain and with that there is no thrill.
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I agree, if the goal is to get a thrill betting small would not accomplish it. I assumed the goal was to have an activity or hobby where you could win some money with almost no risk.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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June 6th, 2023 at 3:47:40 PM permalink
Two words- Day Trading.
Two more words- Day Drinking.
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June 6th, 2023 at 6:27:26 PM permalink
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I assumed the goal was to have an activity or hobby where you could win some money with almost no risk.



It's been there all along, hiding in plain sight.

Some call it "work," or "get a job."

Whatever, you can actually exchange your labor for money.

Who knew?
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June 6th, 2023 at 6:59:35 PM permalink
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I'm thinking about quitting gambling

this is my history:

the best time I ever had gambling is when I was younger counting at BJ
I made some good money but I wasn't a high roller
but the amount I made was significant to my financial situation

after that I only bet sports and horses - betting small

I made a tiny amount betting sports and lost a tiny amount betting horses

my financial situation is dramatically different now - I'm not willing to bet huge where it would really make an impact - so what's the point___?

the best way I can describe my feeling about it is that old B.B. King song "The Thrill is Gone"

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How about just betting longshot parlays for $5 or $10? I've had some friends hit for a few thousand off small wagers and they have fun getting close all the time.


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June 6th, 2023 at 11:46:43 PM permalink
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I'm thinking about quitting gambling

this is my history:

the best time I ever had gambling is when I was younger counting at BJ
I made some good money but I wasn't a high roller
but the amount I made was significant to my financial situation

after that I only bet sports and horses - betting small

I made a tiny amount betting sports and lost a tiny amount betting horses

my financial situation is dramatically different now - I'm not willing to bet huge where it would really make an impact - so what's the point___?

the best way I can describe my feeling about it is that old B.B. King song "The Thrill is Gone"
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I'm the opposite.
i dont want thrills. i dont want my heart racing.

it used to be that $4/spin would make me sweat.
now I dont bat an eye at $8/spin and down 4 figures.
I take shots at $45/spin.
i shudder when that feels normal and the new bar is 3 figures/spin. :o

it depends on how you view gambling: entertainment or a part time job?
for entertainment, i'll play 5cent vp. $10 lasts a pretty long time.
Sometimes longer than a movie.

if you dont find gambling entertaining, then perhaps semi-quit and find another hobby?
semi-quit in that only bet when you're very confident you have a sports winner. it's basically free $ and who doesnt like free $?
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if you dont find gambling entertaining, then perhaps semi-quit and find another hobby?
semi-quit in that only bet when you're very confident you have a sports winner. it's basically free $ and who doesnt like free $?
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If you want another hobby, I suggest learning to cook better.
Most humans seem to have a lifelong interest in eating, and being able to produce a passable tornado omelette over shrimp fried rice is a fun trick to learn.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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Quote: 100xOdds

if you dont find gambling entertaining, then perhaps semi-quit and find another hobby?
semi-quit in that only bet when you're very confident you have a sports winner. it's basically free $ and who doesnt like free $?
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If you want another hobby, I suggest learning to cook better.
Most humans seem to have a lifelong interest in eating, and being able to produce a passable tornado omelette over shrimp fried rice is a fun trick to learn.
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i dont want to get fat testing out all these recipes till i get it perfect. :)
going to the gym seems like work to me.

Plus cleaning all those pots/pans/plates.
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June 7th, 2023 at 5:17:12 AM permalink
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Plus cleaning all those pots/pans/plates.



That is why I have a wife.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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June 7th, 2023 at 5:30:45 AM permalink
that's why my wife has a husband

and she is far from alone in this, ask around. But she is the cook for dinner

we are on our own all other meals
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June 7th, 2023 at 8:24:39 AM permalink
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Quote: 100xOdds

if you dont find gambling entertaining, then perhaps semi-quit and find another hobby?
semi-quit in that only bet when you're very confident you have a sports winner. it's basically free $ and who doesnt like free $?
link to original post


If you want another hobby, I suggest learning to cook better.
Most humans seem to have a lifelong interest in eating, and being able to produce a passable tornado omelette over shrimp fried rice is a fun trick to learn.
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i dont want to get fat testing out all these recipes till i get it perfect. :)
going to the gym seems like work to me.

Plus cleaning all those pots/pans/plates.
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There are surely other forms of cookery.
I hear some folks take up slow smoked barbecue.
Friends bring beer and take away the leftovers; paper plates simplify the cleanup.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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June 7th, 2023 at 11:07:36 AM permalink
I too am tiring of decades of gambling, at least somewhat: is the bloom finally coming off the rose?

When I ask myself "Is it worth it?" I am not satisfied with the answer.

The joy of a winning streak no longer overshadows the negative vibes of a losing streak.

The amount of money won or lost is inconsequential in the scheme of things, so why bother, what is the force that keeps me entering the maw of the snarlin' beast?

I guess, for me anyway, it is the action, the stimulation.

Seems to me it would make more sense to try and scratch the itch by day trading in the market, but the potential for true calamity there is well documented.

Hmmmm... what to do?
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June 7th, 2023 at 11:36:42 AM permalink
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There are surely other forms of cookery.
I hear some folks take up slow smoked barbecue.
Friends bring beer and take away the leftovers; paper plates simplify the cleanup.



Since moving to Florida and accepting the fact that I am old. I have taken up smoking meat on the BBQ. In my younger years I would have never dedicated 8 to 16 hours to cook food but now as I am counting down my days until death it seems appropriate.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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June 7th, 2023 at 4:48:37 PM permalink
I look at my gambling more as a contest or game in which Iím competing against the casino. I guess Iím wired a little differently. The actual dollar value is not as important to me as the Ďwiní is. I wouldnít call it a Ďthrillí, but I do get enjoyment out of finding ways to beat the game.
I play golf and we play for very low stakes. Usually a max loss of $6! Itís not like if we were playing for $600 Iíd treat my shots any differently. One of the regulars I play with is a great golfer. Handicap varies between 4 and 6. We were right next to each other on a par 5 with 70 yards to the pin over a creek. I offered him a closest to the pin contest for $1. I was up first and hit a great shot to around 12 feet. His shot was way long. I can assure you that $1 made me happier than if I found a $20.
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June 7th, 2023 at 6:51:02 PM permalink
When I was working, it was fun, and winning and losing mattered, but neither was important: if I won, great, if I lost, not so great but there was more money coming in soon so no big deal.

Now I'm retired, and every dime gone is GONE. It doesn't matter what % of the total is, or that I have enough; now every penny is important. So gambling isn't the same.

We're here in LV now, having some fun. But only about 10% of the time has been spent gaming, the rest shows, sightseeing and shopping.
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June 7th, 2023 at 7:08:00 PM permalink
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When I was working, it was fun, and winning and losing mattered, but neither was important: if I won, great, if I lost, not so great but there was more money coming in soon so no big deal.

Now I'm retired, and every dime gone is GONE. It doesn't matter what % of the total is, or that I have enough; now every penny is important. So gambling isn't the same.

We're here in LV now, having some fun. But only about 10% of the time has been spent gaming, the rest shows, sightseeing and shopping.
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Losing was no big deal when you were working. There was more always money coming in to cover losses

Now that youíre retired, every dime is gone

Possible correlation?
Itís all about making that GTA
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June 7th, 2023 at 7:20:27 PM permalink
When I moved to Bisbee, I budgeted a monthly trip to a casino, but every month I'd find a better use for it.

I just drove 6,000 miles in a little over a month, passed dozens of casinos and never got an itch. I played some slots while buying a gas station pizza, had to exchange the winnings for lottery tickets, won seventy dollars and had a nice steak dinner.
I miss Vegas, but not the gambling and hustling.
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June 7th, 2023 at 8:39:47 PM permalink
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If the price of everything is going to go up 1000-fold because of hyperinflation, the only job that could keep up with that is a vast winning streak in the casino.

This country is ditching its currency for US Dollar. Here's why.


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Hijacking, 7 days.
This is way off-topic for this thread.

note: I am announcing this suspension, but it was discussed by a quorum of moderators. I volunteer as scapegoat.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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June 7th, 2023 at 11:37:43 PM permalink
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Quote: Dieter



There are surely other forms of cookery.
I hear some folks take up slow smoked barbecue.
Friends bring beer and take away the leftovers; paper plates simplify the cleanup.


Since moving to Florida and accepting the fact that I am old. I have taken up smoking meat on the BBQ.
In my younger years I would have never dedicated 8 to 16 hours to cook food but now as I am counting down my days until death it seems appropriate.
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fatalistic view. :o

Go out Game of Thrones style:
Smile on your face, belly full of wine, and a pretty girl's mouth around your...

edit:
Can i has your stuff? :)
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Quote: DRich

Quote: Dieter



There are surely other forms of cookery.
I hear some folks take up slow smoked barbecue.
Friends bring beer and take away the leftovers; paper plates simplify the cleanup.


Since moving to Florida and accepting the fact that I am old. I have taken up smoking meat on the BBQ.
In my younger years I would have never dedicated 8 to 16 hours to cook food but now as I am counting down my days until death it seems appropriate.
link to original post

fatalistic view. :o

Go out Game of Thrones style:
Smile on your face, belly full of wine, and a pretty girl's mouth around your...

edit:
Can i has your stuff? :)
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My end will likely be quite a bit different. Hopefully I will be found dead in bed with my computer in my lap, probably while I have this website opened.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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June 8th, 2023 at 10:24:36 AM permalink
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My end will likely be quite a bit different. Hopefully I will be found dead in bed with my computer in my lap, probably while I have this website opened.
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It is possible that I will meet my demise while playing slots on two different online sites simultaneously. If I have auto-play set to 1000 games and there are 900+ games remaining to be played on auto-play, it is possible that I will be gambling for more than an hour after my death. I might win a prize on a leaderboard days after I am gone. This raises interesting questions about whether I am responsible for any W2-Gs or does my estate get them?

As to the OP's issue, I think most people should stop gambling right now or sooner, if possible. Gambling is a pointless activity that ought to soon get boring for most intelligent people. I never gambled without the intention of making money. I never played the lottery or an office pool. I would hopefully be doing more interesting and socially useful things with my life it gambling wasn't so darn remunerative.

I used to enjoy the social aspect of going to casinos, but then most of my AP friends moved away or stopped going to casinos. I enjoy being able to say that I am a successful gambler and I still enjoy solving gambling math challenges. Just scooping up bonus slot play seems like work at times. Some big multi-day plays are downright grueling.
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June 8th, 2023 at 12:12:32 PM permalink
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Quote: DRich

My end will likely be quite a bit different. Hopefully I will be found dead in bed with my computer in my lap, probably while I have this website opened.
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As to the OP's issue, I think most people should stop gambling right now or sooner, if possible. Gambling is a pointless activity that ought to soon get boring for most intelligent people. I never gambled without the intention of making money. I never played the lottery or an office pool. I would hopefully be doing more interesting and socially useful things with my life it gambling wasn't so darn remunerative.
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In all fairness there are many "pointless" activities that people enjoy. Video Games and watching sports are the top 2 I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think there's nothing wrong with enjoying something inherently pointless, unless of course it starts harming you or others.

To your second part though, I'd probably go a lot less open if I wasn't making the tiny bit of money I do now from it, is it pointless? Yea....but my other "hobby" is video games which is ALSO pointless...at least I'm making a bit of money doing this.

To OP, +1 on the cooking though, we spend a lot of our life eating, might as well learn how to make some darn good food while you're living, not to mention how much money you save from cooking all of your own meals, and how much healthier (usually).
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June 8th, 2023 at 4:29:33 PM permalink
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When I was working, it was fun, and winning and losing mattered, but neither was important: if I won, great, if I lost, not so great but there was more money coming in soon so no big deal.

Now I'm retired, and every dime gone is GONE. It doesn't matter what % of the total is, or that I have enough; now every penny is important. So gambling isn't the same.

We're here in LV now, having some fun. But only about 10% of the time has been spent gaming, the rest shows, sightseeing and shopping.
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Losing was no big deal when you were working. There was more always money coming in to cover losses

Now that youíre retired, every dime is gone

Possible correlation?
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Lol, of course!

Thing is, all my life, all I ever wanted to be was a bum. But I couldnít afford it. So, I had to get a job and go to work, and I did okay, and now Iím retired, and people can leave me the eff alone, I got nothing to do and all the time in the world to do it. But I want to do it for as long as I can. So my attitude toward security has changed. All that shit is like my shopping cart full of my stuff. I never counted it before, there was always enough and going to be more. Now, thereís enough, but itís going to be less!
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June 8th, 2023 at 11:39:32 PM permalink
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As to the OP's issue, I think most people should stop gambling right now or sooner, if possible. Gambling is a pointless activity that ought to soon get boring for most intelligent people. I never gambled without the intention of making money. I never played the lottery or an office pool. I would hopefully be doing more interesting and socially useful things with my life if gambling wasn't so darn remunerative.

I used to enjoy the social aspect of going to casinos.
Some big multi-day plays are downright grueling.
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i'm not smarter than a 5th grader.
please try not to use multi-syllable words :)

multi-day plays?
as in the Major is big enough to go for it?
or that qh 777 slots?
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June 8th, 2023 at 11:55:19 PM permalink
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In all fairness there are many "pointless" activities that people enjoy. Video Games and watching sports are the top 2 I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think there's nothing wrong with enjoying something inherently pointless, unless of course it starts harming you or others.

To your second part though, I'd probably go a lot less open if I wasn't making the tiny bit of money I do now from it, is it pointless? Yea....but my other "hobby" is video games which is ALSO pointless...at least I'm making a bit of money doing this.

To OP, +1 on the cooking though, we spend a lot of our life eating, might as well learn how to make some darn good food while you're living, not to mention how much money you save from cooking all of your own meals, and how much healthier (usually).
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i stopped gaming 10+ years ago.
the fun was gone.
it was all a re-hash of doom, civ, diablo, and age of empires.
(Btw- Blizzard is still coming out with add-on kingdoms to age of empires II, 20+ years after the game game out! i would take it up again if gambling wasnt so remunerative)

it got replaced with gambling more. back then i only gambled on craps and vp (low HE games).
i wasnt making $ from the games but was enjoying the casino tier benefits (free hotel + diamond lounges) which more than made up for the small loses.

as i said above about cooking, i see myself getting obese from trying all the stuff i make till i got it right. Rinse/repeat for the next cooking experiment.
How do you not get fat from experimenting with cooking?
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June 9th, 2023 at 1:15:55 AM permalink
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As to the OP's issue, I think most people should stop gambling right now or sooner, if possible. Gambling is a pointless activity that ought to soon get boring for most intelligent people. I never gambled without the intention of making money. I never played the lottery or an office pool. I would hopefully be doing more interesting and socially useful things with my life if gambling wasn't so darn remunerative.

I used to enjoy the social aspect of going to casinos.
Some big multi-day plays are downright grueling.
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i'm not smarter than a 5th grader.
please try not to use multi-syllable words :)

multi-day plays?
as in the Major is big enough to go for it?
or that qh 777 slots?
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No, not progressive plays. Leaderboards typically run three to seven days and can be extremely competitive (to the point where I sometimes need to bail out and cut my losses). Play-to-earn promotions typically run two to four days and can require up to $500K of coin in on slots to achieve the maximum EV.

When you win bonus play in a leaderboard or play-to-earn, the wagering requirements (WR) can be several hundred thousand in additional slot play or several million in table-games play. Otherwise, your bonus is forfeit. The best EV slot play that I know of has a $1000 per hour maximum rate of play through. I usually have to play a game with much lower EV to finish the WR in the allowed time or the time I am willing to invest. Many sites disable any turbo feature on their higher RTP games or greatly increase the WR for dozens of slot games with high RTP.
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June 9th, 2023 at 1:23:44 AM permalink
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as i said above about cooking, i see myself getting obese from trying all the stuff i make till i got it right. Rinse/repeat for the next cooking experiment.
How do you not get fat from experimenting with cooking?
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I don't just spend the whole day, all day, every day cooking.
My daughter and I make a better than usual breakfast, of reasonable portion size. If it doesn't come out well, we make notes, and try again another day.

Julia Child and Jacques Pepin both seemed to recommend hosting dinner parties. I'm a bit antisocial for that, but there are enough hungry girls in the house that an organized party doesn't usually seem to be necessary.

It all summarizes to: the more you cook, the more other people eat.

Unrelated: if you decide to make a demiglace, figure out a way to do it outside.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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June 9th, 2023 at 2:13:08 PM permalink
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Quote: TheCapitalShip

In all fairness there are many "pointless" activities that people enjoy. Video Games and watching sports are the top 2 I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think there's nothing wrong with enjoying something inherently pointless, unless of course it starts harming you or others.

To your second part though, I'd probably go a lot less open if I wasn't making the tiny bit of money I do now from it, is it pointless? Yea....but my other "hobby" is video games which is ALSO pointless...at least I'm making a bit of money doing this.

To OP, +1 on the cooking though, we spend a lot of our life eating, might as well learn how to make some darn good food while you're living, not to mention how much money you save from cooking all of your own meals, and how much healthier (usually).
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i stopped gaming 10+ years ago.
the fun was gone.
it was all a re-hash of doom, civ, diablo, and age of empires.
(Btw- Blizzard is still coming out with add-on kingdoms to age of empires II, 20+ years after the game game out! i would take it up again if gambling wasnt so remunerative)

it got replaced with gambling more. back then i only gambled on craps and vp (low HE games).
i wasnt making $ from the games but was enjoying the casino tier benefits (free hotel + diamond lounges) which more than made up for the small loses.

as i said above about cooking, i see myself getting obese from trying all the stuff i make till i got it right. Rinse/repeat for the next cooking experiment.
How do you not get fat from experimenting with cooking?
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I thought it was Microsoft that published AoE II and not Blizzard? Regardless, I actually have the new version of AoE II, I play it occasionally but 90% of my gaming is 2 games, FFXIV and PoE (Path of Exile).

Gambling is pretty much just something different to do on the weekends, I'd love to fish and hike but in my area all that stuff is a 2+ hour drive. At least to the really pretty areas.

I enjoy the little comps though, you mentioned Diamond lounges I don't think I could fathom putting in that kind of coin in, My BR can survive 25c VP, maybe 15$ a hand blackjack, and the low limit slot stuff I do and that's about it. I can't even take advantage half the time because my hotel nights are on weekdays only and I work during that time, don't think I'll ever get the coin in to get free weekend nights, I'd wager my locals will cut off my mailers before I get free weekend nights lol.

Nonetheless, I enjoy it, and as long as I'm enjoying it...wel I will keep doing it.

I could do without cigarette smoke though lol
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June 11th, 2023 at 1:03:40 AM permalink
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I thought it was Microsoft that published AoE II and not Blizzard? Regardless, I actually have the new version of AoE II, I play it occasionally but 90% of my gaming is 2 games, FFXIV and PoE (Path of Exile).
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You might be right about MS.
All i know was that i am shocked they are still supporting the game 20+ years later!

I also used to do Path of Exiles. :o
That's still going strong?

/WoV gamers unite! :)
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June 11th, 2023 at 7:43:15 PM permalink
Gambling is boring even when you have a winning game. It becomes a job and you just want to get it over with. I guess if I played for really high stakes that would be exciting for a while but I'm way too old to be starting crap like that.
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June 15th, 2023 at 3:34:17 PM permalink
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Plus cleaning all those pots/pans/plates.



That is why I have a wife.
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Sometimes this feels like the reason my wife has a husband... :/
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July 14th, 2023 at 1:00:56 PM permalink
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as an update - I haven't completely quit - but I have drastically cut back
I have gone from betting horses frequently to just betting one high level stakes event on Saturdays

my r.o.i. has greatly improved since doing this - and I believe my hope of being profitable is now approaching reasonableness since making this big change
there is a lot of soft money betting these stakes events - I can usually find a strong contender at decent odds in a large field

the soft money loves the shots - and the r.o.i. on the shots is way, way worse - terrible - compared to the r.o.i. on the lower odds contenders

I don't bet sports anymore - but I like searching for profitable angles in sports betting

this is small stuff - recreational - and taking up very little time -

it's not about making money - just about the challenge of becoming profitable - in racing probably 99% or more of the bettors are not profitable - the takeout is crushing

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