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October 5th, 2022 at 10:52:13 AM permalink
It's...up there.
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October 5th, 2022 at 10:55:14 AM permalink
On one of my sessions this year I was boasting that I was betting more per hand on some hands than the entire casino combined, and no pit boss said a word to gainsay my claim. Of course it was late, and the casino was pretty empty, at least in the high limit salons....
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October 5th, 2022 at 10:58:53 AM permalink
What else comes out of the woodwork, After Midnight, is all the hookers. Even in a top casino on the Strip, you can't even navigate a passageway without being accosted with a Hi! Want to have some fun?

It’s like they know you’re wearing a Rolex and have a couple dollars (in my case couple hundred thousand dollar chips) in your pocket.

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October 5th, 2022 at 11:05:49 AM permalink
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Day 18 play.

Baccarat.

Heavy duty action! to the limit at times. More than a few advantage hands almost all of them winners.

+110000

Any questions?
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How many shoes was this?
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It was a number of shoes.

The first shoe I almost got killed, from there I got to around +40K and got stuck for some time. I started losing at one point and was down about -90K at one point and then took a mere 10K to $175K on a Player run (not even a really long run, but long enough, and I kept pressing the 10K double double then let the 40K ride for enough hands, then eased off and lost the last hand), and then gradually finished off the win to +$110K. I probably would have bet even more on at least one of those Player hands, but 10K double double equaled 40K so that was the max bet that day.

The Player had an advantage I knew about during at least part of that run, and I just let it ride even though the advantage wasn't known throughout the run, still it kept going long enough anyway.

I was playing with a $100K marker and never had to pull more, once I got to over a double, I quit. I actually hadn't planned to win that much, I would have been okay with less but after a while I decided that I was going to grind it out and try to make a double this time.


One thing I have found about Baccarat is that the big wins rarely happen quickly. More likely is to just get killed fast if you try to win too much in the beginning, OR you bet too small in the beginning anyway, so that no matter what the shoe, you still don't win big fast. And that's just regular Baccarat, advantage or no advantage, just the way it seems to work.
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October 5th, 2022 at 11:48:41 AM permalink
Nice hit!
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October 5th, 2022 at 1:48:46 PM permalink
Adventures of MDawg - 480.5K views!

Adventures of MDawg II - 122K views!





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October 5th, 2022 at 4:37:26 PM permalink
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Adventures of MDawg - 480.5K views!

Adventures of MDwg II - 122K views!






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Total profit derived from views:. Zero!

Start posting on YouTube for views to matter
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October 5th, 2022 at 4:56:32 PM permalink
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Total profit derived from views:. Zero!





The MDawg Challenge, $2000. courtesy of DarkOz which means that at least one view, by one person, resulted in a profit.


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Start posting on YouTube for views to matter


Agreed there, in terms of any real profit.
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October 5th, 2022 at 5:21:23 PM permalink
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Total profit derived from views:. Zero!





The MDawg Challenge, $2000. courtesy of DarkOz which means that at least one view, by one person, resulted in a profit.


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Start posting on YouTube for views to matter


Agreed there, in terms of any real profit.
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Meh, I suppose.

I don't count that as profit from views per se.

I will hand you that argument.
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October 5th, 2022 at 7:13:45 PM permalink
The real pay dirt from posting about one's casino play, or really about anything one does, is the self realizations that come from writing about it.

As well, being accountable to a public forum about casino session wins and losses drives a person to want to succeed, and not have to post about losses. Now, this accountability may be good, as it makes one want to play until one wins, so as not to have to report failure, but it also may be bad, as it makes one want to push to come back from negative on every session for the same reason. I've always been that way anyway though, not wanting to end any session with a loss - and what casino player is any different? Sometimes though, it is better to take some kind of loss versus a potentially bigger one trying to get back to even.
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October 7th, 2022 at 7:43:48 AM permalink
Yesterday's stabbing was just another in a series of recent attacks on the Vegas Strip.
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October 7th, 2022 at 7:45:35 AM permalink
Day 19 play.

Baccarat.

Pretty mellow couple of sessions. Before and after dinner.

+23000

Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.

And this is the MDawg challenge.
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October 7th, 2022 at 8:15:36 AM permalink
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Yesterday's stabbing was just another in a series of recent attacks on the Vegas Strip.
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This is why I try to not leave the casino anymore when I visit Vegas.
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October 7th, 2022 at 8:42:37 AM permalink
Good sessions! I must have not read the $200k one earlier! Do you have access to free limo whenever you want no questions asked?
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October 7th, 2022 at 10:13:51 AM permalink
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Yesterday's stabbing was just another in a series of recent attacks on the Vegas Strip.
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This is why I try to not leave the casino anymore when I visit Vegas.
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So which table do you sleep on, and which restroom do you shave and shower?

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October 7th, 2022 at 10:16:10 AM permalink
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Good sessions! I must have not read the $200k one earlier! Do you have access to free limo whenever you want no questions asked?
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It would seem to me that winning 200k would allow one the affordability to buy a used limo and rent a driver. Tax write-off for expenses and offset.

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October 7th, 2022 at 10:33:53 AM permalink
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So which table do you sleep on, and which restroom do you shave and shower?

tuttigym
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yuk yuk yuk...
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October 7th, 2022 at 10:42:25 AM permalink
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Good sessions! I must have not read the $200k one earlier! Do you have access to free limo whenever you want no questions asked?
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It would seem to me that winning 200k would allow one the affordability to buy a used limo and rent a driver. Tax write-off for expenses and offset.

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Duh…. I’m not discussing what MDawg can or can’t afford. I’m trying to figure out what the casino will give him for his level of play. I knew a doc I worked with who was given a limo for his GUESTS while he was at a table. Or even if he wasn’t playing. This is 3 decades ago? Said he was a $400 a hand BJ player.
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October 7th, 2022 at 11:00:23 AM permalink
Yes, whether staying in house or not, I have casino free transport available to me or my guests anytime, to go anywhere. Probably could commandeer a limo to go to Baker, if I wanted (but...who wants to go to Baker, other than maybe for the land crab? “Excellent seafood, With a mind like yours, you’ll probably want the land - crab. Try the Majestic Diner.”). Or, to the Grand Canyon.

The only difference between asking for transport for me versus say for my guests, is that at some of the properties they reserve their premium cars only for players and their immediate family, while using their other cars for player's guests. For example at Wynn, the Rolls Royce Phantoms are supposed to be only for the players/players families.

Wynn Las Vegas Rolls Out The Largest Fleet Of Rolls-Royce Phantoms In North America
Fourteen Rolls-Royce Phantoms are at service for guests to be ferried around town by Wynn Las Vegas. The royal fleet includes the Extended Wheel Base model with liberal cabin space that delivers comfort for passengers. The seats are slightly elevated from the driver’s seat giving passengers a superior vantage point. The bespoke Wynn Rolls-Royce are classic black with their eponymous Wynn license plate.


By the way, you don't save any money by taking casino transport, or else I don't. I tip ten dollars to the limo driver for a Strip jaunt, and twenty if going downtown, which is about the same as an Uber or taxi drive. But of course the vehicular is much more luxurious, as is the experience.

I may also have the casino fly us in via their own jet, if we wanted that.


I actually still have a family member whose jet I may use, but that's more for business purposes flying back and forth from Vegas to someplace else and back.

Depending on how far away you live, flying isn't necessarily faster these days, given travel time to the airport, and having to go through security for commercial flights. Really it has to be more than a four hour drive to make flying faster, in many cases.

The new SUV we have has auto pilot and it really is very easy to cruise the highways in it. Driving isn't such a chore these days.
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October 7th, 2022 at 12:02:25 PM permalink
Casinos don't send limos out to pick up advantage players. They tell them to take a hike.
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October 7th, 2022 at 12:49:17 PM permalink
If you’re staying at Red Rock you may take a limo to the Canyon. And take a hike.

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October 7th, 2022 at 1:12:41 PM permalink
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Looks just like Ace’s private jet
It’s all about making that GTA
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October 7th, 2022 at 2:44:28 PM permalink
MDawg, are you a big enough high roller to where you could just curl up in a blanket in the corner of the Baccarat room and take a nap? Or is that just for the six-figure-a-hand whales?
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October 7th, 2022 at 4:09:05 PM permalink
Good question! but...that sort of thing isn't classy and I wouldn't want to do that in the first place.

I have heard stories of a female high roller who used to insist that they allow her to defecate while still at the high limit table...the process was once described to me, minimally.
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October 7th, 2022 at 6:09:47 PM permalink
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October 8th, 2022 at 7:10:41 AM permalink
I'm planning to make a disclaimer for the forum, saying that we put a big emphasis on free speech, even when it is at the cost of allowing ridiculous claims. As just a couple examples, Alan's 18 consecutive yo's and EB's 80% success rate on even money bets in roulette.

Can anyone please remind me some of Mdawg's most incredible claims, preferably with links. I seem to recall:

1. 40% success rate on Tie bets in baccarat.
2. 60 consecutive Player wins in baccarat.
3. 60 consecutive wins in blackjack.

Do I have those right? Should I put "approximately" before the 60's?

Any others I'm missing?

Thank you.
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October 8th, 2022 at 7:47:36 AM permalink
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I'm planning to make a disclaimer for the forum, saying that we put a big emphasis on free speech, even when it is at the cost of allowing ridiculous claims. As just a couple examples, Alan's 18 consecutive yo's and EB's 80% success rate on even money bets in roulette.

Can anyone please remind me some of Mdawg's most incredible claims, preferably with links. I seem to recall:

1. 40% success rate on Tie bets in baccarat.
2. 60 consecutive Player wins in baccarat.
3. 60 consecutive wins in blackjack.

Do I have those right? Should I put "approximately" before the 60's?

Any others I'm missing?

Thank you.
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Are you suggesting that Mdawg is making "ridiculous claims"? My goodness, next thing you know, Ace2 will disavow the craps "math" and embrace 4th grade arithmetic and win 80% of the time.

"Free speech'? How far can we take that statement?

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October 8th, 2022 at 7:50:11 AM permalink
If you are going to mention the 18 yos mention them correctly.

I did not throw 18 yos in a row. I was at a table at Caesars Palace when a random shooter threw 18 yos in a row.
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October 8th, 2022 at 7:57:34 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm planning to make a disclaimer for the forum, saying that we put a big emphasis on free speech, even when it is at the cost of allowing ridiculous claims. As just a couple examples, Alan's 18 consecutive yo's and EB's 80% success rate on even money bets in roulette.

Can anyone please remind me some of Mdawg's most incredible claims, preferably with links. I seem to recall:

1. 40% success rate on Tie bets in baccarat.
2. 60 consecutive Player wins in baccarat.
3. 60 consecutive wins in blackjack.

Do I have those right? Should I put "approximately" before the 60's?

Any others I'm missing?

Thank you.
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MDawg claiming to have won over sixty hands in a row at Blackjack.
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October 8th, 2022 at 8:09:49 AM permalink
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Quote: Wizard

I'm planning to make a disclaimer for the forum, saying that we put a big emphasis on free speech, even when it is at the cost of allowing ridiculous claims. As just a couple examples, Alan's 18 consecutive yo's and EB's 80% success rate on even money bets in roulette.

Can anyone please remind me some of Mdawg's most incredible claims, preferably with links. I seem to recall:

1. 40% success rate on Tie bets in baccarat.
2. 60 consecutive Player wins in baccarat.
3. 60 consecutive wins in blackjack.

Do I have those right? Should I put "approximately" before the 60's?

Any others I'm missing?

Thank you.
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MDawg claiming to have won over sixty hands in a row at Blackjack.
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I went back and reviewed that post and the others that followed. How come Mdawg did NOT tell us how much he won, you know like +4 gazillion? Seems a little inconsistent, right?

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October 8th, 2022 at 8:16:02 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm planning to make a disclaimer for the forum, saying that we put a big emphasis on free speech, even when it is at the cost of allowing ridiculous claims. As just a couple examples, Alan's 18 consecutive yo's and EB's 80% success rate on even money bets in roulette.

Can anyone please remind me some of Mdawg's most incredible claims, preferably with links. I seem to recall:

1. 40% success rate on Tie bets in baccarat.
2. 60 consecutive Player wins in baccarat.
3. 60 consecutive wins in blackjack.

Do I have those right? Should I put "approximately" before the 60's?

Any others I'm missing?

Thank you.
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Quite a lot of imprecision here.

1) The direct quote I made was, "I don't bet tie often, but when I do, I hit it at least at a 25% ratio over all."
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/346/#post799590
I'd have to figure out whether my tie win percentage is still at that level. I have played a lot of Bacc since then, that quote was 1 1/2 years ago.


2) It was approximately twenty Players in a row not 60. Followed by one Bank. Followed by another approximately twenty Players in a row.


3) The Blackjack winning hands were clarified here:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/big-wins/36485-60-winning-hands-in-a-row/#post825213
"This happened some two decades ago. Could I swear it was 60 in a row? No. Which is why I say 'some sixty.'"

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/big-wins/36485-60-winning-hands-in-a-row/#post825226
"Again, could I swear to that I did not lose a single hand along the way? No."

-MDawg
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October 8th, 2022 at 8:20:45 AM permalink
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I went back and reviewed that post and the others that followed. How come Mdawg did NOT tell us how much he won, you know like +4 gazillion? Seems a little inconsistent, right?

tuttigym
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Should that be a new rule for all posters here? If you say you won you must include the amount?

I've already posted my results when I was at the table with the shooter who rolled 18 yos. I won ZERO.

How about demanding proof from multi card players?
And APs on their special plays?

Should Darkoz be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his team using 20 cards undetected?

Should Axel be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his string of winning +EV plays?

And while we're at it, should there be a general warning that nothing here is verified?
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October 8th, 2022 at 1:04:58 PM permalink
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I'm planning to make a disclaimer for the forum, saying that we put a big emphasis on free speech, even when it is at the cost of allowing ridiculous claims.
Thank you.
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Wizard,
I think one thing you need to resolve is how do you get visitors to see that disclaimer?
When one visits the forum, the almost inevitable first page seen is 'Recent Threads'. And towards the top of the recent threads is often a thread trying to discuss a ridiculous claim.... or this one $;o)

I don't know what the answer is to that.

If you do indicate a big emphasis on free speech, won't you need to doubly emphasise that the personal insult rule and bad language rules are still very strictly enforced.
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October 8th, 2022 at 1:16:53 PM permalink
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Wizard,
I think one thing you need to resolve is how do you get visitors to see that disclaimer?
When one visits the forum, the almost inevitable first page seen is 'Recent Threads'. And towards the top of the recent threads is often a thread trying to discuss a ridiculous claim.... or this one $;o)
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I agree, a big disclaimer above the Recent Threads section would be nice.
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October 8th, 2022 at 1:19:14 PM permalink
If there's a disclaimer out it on the home page:

THIS IS A FREE SPEECH WEBSITE. WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CLAIMS MADE BY THE POSTERS.
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October 8th, 2022 at 1:23:57 PM permalink
Lies and misinformation are far worse than insults or bad words. Facts matter more than feelings.
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October 8th, 2022 at 1:38:23 PM permalink
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Lies and misinformation are far worse than insults or bad words. Facts matter more than feelings.
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Easy to say when you post under a made up name or no one knows who you are.

Go ahead and insult the Wizard. See if that's worse than writing about bad calculations.
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October 8th, 2022 at 2:07:24 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm planning to make a disclaimer for the forum, saying that we put a big emphasis on free speech, even when it is at the cost of allowing ridiculous claims. As just a couple examples, Alan's 18 consecutive yo's and EB's 80% success rate on even money bets in roulette.

Can anyone please remind me some of Mdawg's most incredible claims, preferably with links. I seem to recall:

1. 40% success rate on Tie bets in baccarat.
2. 60 consecutive Player wins in baccarat.
3. 60 consecutive wins in blackjack.

Do I have those right? Should I put "approximately" before the 60's?

Any others I'm missing?

Thank you.
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Mike, the only thing I can say is that if you are calling someone out for a ridiculous claim, please get it exactly right. I definitely temper the tie claim but NOT exactly what it was. The BJ claim as well. I think it was less than 60 though? I don’t have any recollection of the 60 consecutive player claim.
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October 8th, 2022 at 2:15:05 PM permalink
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Quote: tuttigym


I went back and reviewed that post and the others that followed. How come Mdawg did NOT tell us how much he won, you know like +4 gazillion? Seems a little inconsistent, right?

tuttigym
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Should that be a new rule for all posters here? If you say you won you must include the amount?

I've already posted my results when I was at the table with the shooter who rolled 18 yos. I won ZERO.

How about demanding proof from multi card players?
And APs on their special plays?

Should Darkoz be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his team using 20 cards undetected?

Should Axel be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his string of winning +EV plays?

And while we're at it, should there be a general warning that nothing here is verified?
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Alan, DarkOz and Axel both make claims CONSISTENT with the math that governs the games/offers/promos.

Your claim, all of EvenBob’s, and some of MDawgs, are INCONSISTENT with the math. It’s not my fault you can’t see that crucial distinction.

I will say this about MDawg, recently he has made it clear he plays certain hands with an advantage. Of course he is not spelling it out for us in detail, but it makes his overall long history of winning possible.
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October 8th, 2022 at 2:17:26 PM permalink
I saw a bubble craps dice land on its side in the middle of the bubble. If it fell over it would likely have been a 7-out, but the machine reshook the dice because it was a no roll. Sorry, no photo. Yeah, you take the edge of the dice and stand it up so it looks like some inverted pyramid. Bubble Craps dice are different, they have their own tolerances.
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October 8th, 2022 at 2:25:38 PM permalink
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Lies and misinformation are far worse than insults or bad words. Facts matter more than feelings.
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Easy to say when you post under a made up name or no one knows who you are.

Go ahead and insult the Wizard. See if that's worse than writing about bad calculations.
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I don't intend to hurl insults here regardless of whether I'm allowed to do so. But if Donald Trump posted to express a disagreement with the Wizard, he might call him "Little Mike" or "Shifty Shackleford" or "the fake and phony Wizard." Everyone knows that's just his rhetorical style, like it or not.

If Trump went on to make an implausible or verifiably false claim about how much his real estate holdings were worth to try to trick people into loaning him large amounts of money, then that would be fraud.

So yes, posting bad calculations is worse than insulting the Wizard.
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October 8th, 2022 at 2:29:02 PM permalink
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I went back and reviewed that post and the others that followed. How come Mdawg did NOT tell us how much he won, you know like +4 gazillion? Seems a little inconsistent, right?

tuttigym
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Should that be a new rule for all posters here? If you say you won you must include the amount?

I've already posted my results when I was at the table with the shooter who rolled 18 yos. I won ZERO.

How about demanding proof from multi card players?
And APs on their special plays?



Should Darkoz be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his team using 20 cards undetected?

Should Axel be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his string of winning +EV plays?

And while we're at it, should there be a general warning that nothing here is verified?
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Alan, DarkOz and Axel both make claims CONSISTENT with the math that governs the games/offers/promos.

Your claim, all of EvenBob’s, and some of MDawgs, are INCONSISTENT with the math. It’s not my fault you can’t see that crucial distinction.

I will say this about MDawg, recently he has made it clear he plays certain hands with an advantage. Of course he is not spelling it out for us in detail, but it makes his overall long history of winning possible.
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Playing with 20 cards UNDETECTED has nothing to do with the math.

Axel doesn't even reveal his plays. How can you say it's what the math expects to happen?
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October 8th, 2022 at 2:31:17 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: AlanMendelson

Quote: tuttigym


I went back and reviewed that post and the others that followed. How come Mdawg did NOT tell us how much he won, you know like +4 gazillion? Seems a little inconsistent, right?

tuttigym
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Should that be a new rule for all posters here? If you say you won you must include the amount?

I've already posted my results when I was at the table with the shooter who rolled 18 yos. I won ZERO.

How about demanding proof from multi card players?
And APs on their special plays?



Should Darkoz be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his team using 20 cards undetected?

Should Axel be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his string of winning +EV plays?

And while we're at it, should there be a general warning that nothing here is verified?
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Alan, DarkOz and Axel both make claims CONSISTENT with the math that governs the games/offers/promos.

Your claim, all of EvenBob’s, and some of MDawgs, are INCONSISTENT with the math. It’s not my fault you can’t see that crucial distinction.

I will say this about MDawg, recently he has made it clear he plays certain hands with an advantage. Of course he is not spelling it out for us in detail, but it makes his overall long history of winning possible.
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Playing with 20 cards UNDETECTED has nothing to do with the math.

Axel doesn't even reveal his plays. How can you say it's what the math expects to happen?
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probably because Soopoo knows Axel and Axel has shared some plays with him.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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October 8th, 2022 at 2:54:47 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: AlanMendelson

Quote: tuttigym


I went back and reviewed that post and the others that followed. How come Mdawg did NOT tell us how much he won, you know like +4 gazillion? Seems a little inconsistent, right?

tuttigym
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Should that be a new rule for all posters here? If you say you won you must include the amount?

I've already posted my results when I was at the table with the shooter who rolled 18 yos. I won ZERO.

How about demanding proof from multi card players?
And APs on their special plays?



Should Darkoz be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his team using 20 cards undetected?

Should Axel be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his string of winning +EV plays?

And while we're at it, should there be a general warning that nothing here is verified?
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Alan, DarkOz and Axel both make claims CONSISTENT with the math that governs the games/offers/promos.

Your claim, all of EvenBob’s, and some of MDawgs, are INCONSISTENT with the math. It’s not my fault you can’t see that crucial distinction.

I will say this about MDawg, recently he has made it clear he plays certain hands with an advantage. Of course he is not spelling it out for us in detail, but it makes his overall long history of winning possible.
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Playing with 20 cards UNDETECTED has nothing to do with the math.

Axel doesn't even reveal his plays. How can you say it's what the math expects to happen?
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DarkOz playing with multiple cards is DIRECTLY related to the math! He has to know how much to bet at what -EV to generate enough free play to be worth it. It’s not rocket science, but it requires work.

Axel has revealed a few plays here, or others have revealed some that Axel participated in. And yes, he has shown me in person some others that I won’t reveal as of course I promised him I wouldn’t.
Each play was supported by the math. And most weren’t very complicated once you were shown.
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October 8th, 2022 at 3:41:10 PM permalink
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I'm planning to make a disclaimer for the forum, saying that we put a big emphasis on free speech, even when it is at the cost of allowing ridiculous claims. As just a couple examples, Alan's 18 consecutive yo's and EB's 80% success rate on even money bets in roulette.

Can anyone please remind me some of Mdawg's most incredible claims, preferably with links. I seem to recall:

1. 40% success rate on Tie bets in baccarat.
2. 60 consecutive Player wins in baccarat.
3. 60 consecutive wins in blackjack.

Do I have those right? Should I put "approximately" before the 60's?

Any others I'm missing?

Thank you.
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Mike, the only thing I can say is that if you are calling someone out for a ridiculous claim, please get it exactly right. I definitely temper the tie claim but NOT exactly what it was. The BJ claim as well. I think it was less than 60 though? I don’t have any recollection of the 60 consecutive player claim.
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I believe one was "60 some" and one was "some 60" and there was considetable discussion about the meaning of the different terms.
I would look at July-September 2021, if I were seeking those posts, or do one of the high power search techniques.
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October 8th, 2022 at 3:46:28 PM permalink
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I believe one was "60 some" and one was "some 60" and there was considetable discussion about the meaning of the different terms.
I would look at July-September 2021, if I were seeking those posts, or do one of the high power search techniques.
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The posts were linked to on the previous page.

MDawg says both "60 some" (meaning a number between 60 and 69) and also "some 60" (meaning approximately 60). But then he also says he probably lost some hands along the way, too, so that immediately negates the concept of winning 60 in a row.
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October 8th, 2022 at 4:46:23 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: AlanMendelson

Quote: tuttigym


I went back and reviewed that post and the others that followed. How come Mdawg did NOT tell us how much he won, you know like +4 gazillion? Seems a little inconsistent, right?

tuttigym
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Should that be a new rule for all posters here? If you say you won you must include the amount?

I've already posted my results when I was at the table with the shooter who rolled 18 yos. I won ZERO.

How about demanding proof from multi card players?
And APs on their special plays?



Should Darkoz be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his team using 20 cards undetected?

Should Axel be mandated to post his wins? And by the way should there be a warning about his string of winning +EV plays?

And while we're at it, should there be a general warning that nothing here is verified?
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Alan, DarkOz and Axel both make claims CONSISTENT with the math that governs the games/offers/promos.

Your claim, all of EvenBob’s, and some of MDawgs, are INCONSISTENT with the math. It’s not my fault you can’t see that crucial distinction.

I will say this about MDawg, recently he has made it clear he plays certain hands with an advantage. Of course he is not spelling it out for us in detail, but it makes his overall long history of winning possible.
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Playing with 20 cards UNDETECTED has nothing to do with the math.

Axel doesn't even reveal his plays. How can you say it's what the math expects to happen?
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If you would be willing to sign a non disclosure I can prove a net worth north of 8 figures that I have accumulated by using MATH to beat casino promotions and marketing with multiple players over the last 20 years or so. This includes tax records because it’s literally impossible to just not pay tax’s when making this kind of money. After you see the proof you must state publicly how wrong you are, and retract the story of 18 yos in a row. Dm me we can work it out.
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October 8th, 2022 at 5:18:25 PM permalink
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I'm planning to make a disclaimer for the forum, saying that we put a big emphasis on free speech, even when it is at the cost of allowing ridiculous claims.
Thank you.
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Wizard,
I think one thing you need to resolve is how do you get visitors to see that disclaimer?
When one visits the forum, the almost inevitable first page seen is 'Recent Threads'. And towards the top of the recent threads is often a thread trying to discuss a ridiculous claim.... or this one $;o)

I don't know what the answer is to that.

If you do indicate a big emphasis on free speech, won't you need to doubly emphasise that the personal insult rule and bad language rules are still very strictly enforced.
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According to Harvards 40 year study on swearing the most honest and intelligent people swear the most. By eliminating the use of certain cuss words here I would think by default you drive away a portion of the community that has the most to contribute. Personal insults and words mean nothing unless you give power to them.
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October 8th, 2022 at 5:23:58 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Mike, the only thing I can say is that if you are calling someone out for a ridiculous claim, please get it exactly right. I definitely temper the tie claim but NOT exactly what it was. The BJ claim as well. I think it was less than 60 though? I don’t have any recollection of the 60 consecutive player claim.
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I agree. I didn't mean to make these claims, but was asking if they were true.

Also, I will tender an apology/correction for any that I can't substantiate.
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October 8th, 2022 at 5:28:20 PM permalink
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According to Harvards 40 year study on swearing the most honest and intelligent people swear the most. By eliminating the use of certain cuss words here I would think by default you drive away a portion of the community that has the most to contribute. Personal insults and words mean nothing unless you give power to them.
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That just makes no sense to me. It is completely opposite of everything that I have experienced.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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