Perhaps leave that to another time, but seriously there is perhaps no better or safer place to wear an expensive timepiece than inside a Vegas casino. At the tables, everything is monitored and security including actual LVMP at at least a couple of the Strip casinos, are all over the place. Just go to high limit sometime and you'll see some of the most expensive watches in the world on the wrists of some players, worn casually with ease.
The "high side" of Vegas is probably the most closed society west of Sicily - and it makes no difference, in terms of the lay life-style of the place, whether the Man at the Top is Lucky Luciano or Howard Hughes. In an economy where Tom Jones can make $75,000 a week for two shows a night at Caesars, the palace guard is indispensable, and they don't care who signs their paychecks. A gold mine like Vegas breeds its own army, like any other gold mine. Hired muscle tends to accumulate in fast layers around money/power poles . . . and big money, in Vegas, is synonymous with the Power to protect it.
Quote: MDawgI haven't put much time into trying to figure it out, but I'm not even sure how the search engine works at WOV. The results in general are not useful, for phrases in quotes or out of quotes. Also there seems to be some software flaw where I usually can't even click past the first page of WOV search results.
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Clicking to the next page of search results does not load a new webpage.
It should scroll the current page back to the top and change the displayed information.
Quote: SiegfriedRoyQuote: ksdjdjQuote: darkozQuote: ksdjdjQuote: MDawg(snip) ...gave me a photographic memory is certainly part of it!
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On a more serious note (compared to my last post in this thread): I may have asked something about this before, but has MDawg ever mentioned his photographic memory earlier (in this or other threads)?
Because if true*** (and I personally have no reason to doubt it) it could possibly be one of the reasons why he wins so much (?)
***: I would even count it as" true" if he really meant something like "almost a perfect photographic memory".
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Baccarat is completely decided by the rules. There is no Baccarat strategy.
It's like asking if perfect memory helps at winning roulette.
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Even though I can't see how it helps for player / banker bets ATM, it should be a "great +" advantage for most other bets made from a shoe (?)
Also, after searching for "photographic memory", I found some sites with interesting info***(see below):
***: I have read link 1 and link 2, "all the way through", and "just skimmed" the other two links, so far.
Link 1, Link 2, Link 3, and Link 4
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I don't doubt Mdawg's wins. I also can believe Mdwag has amazing memory. However, I challenge anybody having a photographic memory because photographic memory (in the traditional sense) has been debunked. There was one documented case where one woman was able to see a complicated picture/puzzle, store it in her brain. And then the scientists asked the woman to rethink the picture/puzzle and solve it from memory. It involved her discovering different aspects of the picture/puzzle in her head. Ultimately, she intrigued the scientiests, but was not able to meet some of the criteria (maybe the criteria was too stringent). One of the other types people get confused with photographic memory is extraordiinary Eidetic memory. People with gifted eidetic memory do exists, but it's not photographic memory in traditional sense that we see in TV, movies, and in mainstream. There are many geniuses with gifted abilities to remember like Ken Uston, Phil Ivey, and many others. However, I doubt Mdawg has PHOTOGRAHIC MEMORY. He probably has genius-like ability to remember.
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I agree that " photographic memory (in the traditional sense) has been debunked".
But I would also count*** a "Mnemonist" (whether from a learned skill or an innate ability) as someone with "(nearly) a photographic memory".
***: According to the link here, I am wrong.
Also, through a relative of mine, I have heard of at least one person^^^ who had a great memory / "photographic memory ".
^^^: He could recall the order of every card that came out of a deck of cards (he mainly played poker).
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Extra :
Speaking of "gifted people", the same relative of mine knew one that "beat Howard Hughes Casino(s)" (I am bad at telling / remembering stories. but I think it was at the craps table using a dice control machine### ?)
###: They found a machine/device in a room (bathroom?) directly over the craps table, I should get him to tell me the story again and record what he says (with permission of course).
DD Blackjack.
Winning sometimes builds on winning.
This is like…money from home.
+64700
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Even a guppy like myself occasionally gets offers from Atlantis, AC casinos, Harrahs New Orleans, etc….
Yes, most all of my sessions for a while have been indicative of being on a tear! but what you don't see is that on some of them I was down quite a bit before coming back and quitting while ahead. In other words, the end results have all been good but anybody who thinks this has been easy and not without risk is not seeing the whole picture.
DD Blackjack.
Helluva session. Way down at one point rallied to end ahead.
+18900
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
I did write about SuperBaccarat here
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/gambling/36394-super-baccarat/
Is this the game to which you refer?
https://wizardofodds.com/games/super-pan-9/
DD Blackjack.
Very heavy action. Came back from majorly down to quit ahead.
+6900
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
No . This game is at palace station casinoQuote: MDawgHi AR. Good to hear from you, and hope you are well. Pan 9 Baccarat, no I have never played that. If they have that at one of the Station Casinos I go to, I will take a look.
I did write about SuperBaccarat here
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/gambling/36394-super-baccarat/
Is this the game to which you refer?
https://wizardofodds.com/games/super-pan-9/
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The exact drawing rules and options should be nailed down for this New Pan N9NE.
Just glancing at what you posted, it would seem that the players are able to pick (play on) one side only? versus Chemin de Fer / Baccarat where either side may be chosen?
Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ECsaqUHGEk
I'll see if I can analyze this tomorrow or the next day.
To get zero every time the Bank wins with a two or three card 6 contributes to quite a house edge.
DD Blackjack.
Pretty easy session where I was on a tear.
+43200
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Quote: avianrandySeems like an interesting game but when you have a winning hand of 6 and it is a push kind of sucks.
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Quoted rules say a three card six that beats the dealer pushes. Obviously still a house edge but at least your dealt sixes can still win.
Baccarat.
MDawg hits it out of the park again, with relative ease this time (ahead most all of the way).
+54800
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Thank you for correcting me on this. I knew their was something about a point total of 6 for the player and just figured all 6's were a push rather than a win if the hand beats the dealer. Someone asked Kelly of beyond blackjack what the table minimum was and she thought she remembered it being $15. Again thank you for attention to detail.Quote: unJonQuote: avianrandySeems like an interesting game but when you have a winning hand of 6 and it is a push kind of sucks.
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Quoted rules say a three card six that beats the dealer pushes. Obviously still a house edge but at least your dealt sixes can still win.
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Baccarat.
Had a couple of fairly major downturns, but rallied to end ahead.
+16800
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
Terrible first session. Dumped around 85K. I then cashed out ALL of my winnings from the current casino, which resulted in their closing temporarily my credit line of course, but I wanted it that way. Not that I even needed the credit line anyway, I had so many winning chips from the casino. But that way I locked in that win.
Then I went to a different casino, played won, about 14K. Not much, but it is indicative of a reset of playing smaller and not trying to chase any of the day's losses.
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
Back on track.
+12000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
tuttigym
Baccarat.
Two separate small sessions.
+8200
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
Multiple sessions, mostly losing but in the final one I did win about 38000.
-61000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
I actually pulled into a KFC but then remembered about this promo
Popeyes to offer 59-cent chicken deal for 50th anniversary
The Popeye's I went to in Vegas was near a car wash I go to, and had this sort of neighborhood right around the corner from it.
Just a couple blocks from this abandoned area, the neighborhood is commercial and not that bad actually.
I remembered reading that the order had to be placed on the Popeye's app to get the two 59 cent chicken pieces. I haven't eaten at a Popeye's in maybe twenty years, and did not have the app, but I downloaded it and ordered before entering the restaurant.
Obviously these people here weren't getting any 59 cent chicken as they were ordering at the counter.
Shortly after I placed the order, it appeared to cancel out,
with the notation that the 59 cent chicken was not available at that location, but a short time later someone called my name, and there it was.
I ate it all up, along with an unsweetened ice tea. The first two pieces were dry, and not that great, but the other two were fine. At its best, KFC is definitely better though, although I believe all these chicken places including Pollo Loco vary in quality based on how long the chicken has been sitting on the grill.
Baccarat.
A redemption day.
-54000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
A redemption day.
+54000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Quote: MDawgDay 36 play.
Baccarat.
A redemption day.
-54000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
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What does redemption day mean when you lost another $54000?
Yes one of my friends had a problem with the Popeye's and said, "A man of your stature eating Popeye's?" but I wanted to try it again, had been a long time since I had.
Quote: DeMangodoes anyone else have a problem with MDawg eating Popeyes?
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I could be misremembering, but I thought there was some canned (pouched?) tuna photographed in a hotel room, when room service and on property restaurants were obviously available.
I can think of a number of steakhouses I don't care to return to, but I was openminded enough to try at least once.
Maybe there wasn't a Krispy Krunchy or Chester's in the neighborhood.
We're not always staying in house when I'm playing, but when we are, our suite has a lot in it, really a lot more than anyone I have ever seen staying in a hotel room has hauled in.
The other couple K won (at a different casino) was after I had this shoe that looked great and where I won the majority of hands but then I realized that I had ended it down -500, which made me realize I had not been betting right, that I had stepped it up at the wrong time and given back whatever I had won during the sweet spots.
But then on the next shoe I started losing big bets and was down about -35K at one point, then started swinging 10K or more at a time, not every hand but including with some free hands (that I would have lost, so those were good free hands), until I was slightly ahead again, and then quit, with the over all result for the day being +54000. It was a redemption day because it pretty much made up for the Day 35 session.
Baccarat.
Topsy turvy! Another rough one.
-41000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Quote: MDawgI'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
Your "challenge" lacks merit and substance. To my way of thinking, the ONLY way to VERIFY (emphasis) any session is to view a complete video recording of the session showing all wagers, hands, and results. There is nothing else that would provide "beyond a reasonable doubt" evidence. While casinos video virtually all the action on their premises, the release of such would be prohibited, I'm guessing, and the retention of such videos would have some form of stale dating.
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymQuote: MDawgI'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
Your "challenge" lacks merit and substance. To my way of thinking, the ONLY way to VERIFY (emphasis) any session is to view a complete video recording of the session showing all wagers, hands, and results. There is nothing else that would provide "beyond a reasonable doubt" evidence. While casinos video virtually all the action on their premises, the release of such would be prohibited, I'm guessing, and the retention of such videos would have some form of stale dating.
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Of course. I’m not sure why the big Dawg continues to pollute his posts with the silly challenge thing at the end. It’s a waste of electrons. I’m wondering how Mr. MDawg would go about ‘proving’ he won $XXXX on May YY? What say ye, MDawg? What ‘proof’ could you possibly offer? Reminding you, I would equally aver that no one could offer ‘proof’ that your claim is false.
Quote: MDawgAnyone who plays table games above board regularly with a player's card knows that the win or loss noted at the end of the session is more or less accurate, especially at high limit tables. In my case I am playing at a private table where the entire rack is counted minutely before and after my session such that the possibility of mistake is close to nil.
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At my low level table I tip, give my wife some chips, use some chips from my pocket, put some chips in my pocket, etc…. There is NO WAY a pit boss can get an accurate number on my loss or win, unless I want them to.
Let’s say you bet a bunch, tipping $1k along the way, and leave even. Will the casino consider you to have won $1k? Because clearly they are down $1k. The $1k in the tip jar is $1k the casino lost.
Anyway, I suppose you did not understand this statement.
Quote: MDawgIn my case I am playing at a private table where the entire house rack is counted minutely before and after my session such that the possibility of mistake is close to nil.
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Quote: MDawgFirst of all, have you ever even checked what the pit boss put down against what you actually won (or lost) or are you just assuming that because you took a chip off the table that the recorded action was inaccurate. Plus you're playing small potatoes tables right? where they might not be looking as carefully.
Anyway, I suppose you did not understand this statement.Quote: MDawgIn my case I am playing at a private table where the entire house rack is counted minutely before and after my session such that the possibility of mistake is close to nil.
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I easily understand your post. It is quite a simple one.
What I am asking you is simple as well. If you are betting $$$$ a hand, and tip out $1k, and end up ‘even’ from your perspective, do they record you as a $1k profit? The casino has lost $1k to you. The $1k in the dealers (proverbial) pocket is a loss to the casino.
I cannot be sure what the pit boss puts me down as, but they record my $300 or $400 buy in, and do make note when I ‘color up’ my reds/greens into blacks. So I’m pretty sure it is up to ME if I want to show a loss or smaller win if it suits me.
At a private table where there is only one player, whatever the rack is missing at the end is reported as the player's net win, assuming all markers are repaid. You must not understand what that means if you are asking about whether money that ends up in the dealer's toke box is counted as a win for the player. Of course it is.
As well, let's say that at my private table I end up paying the marker back. After I leave, the rack is missing a couple thousand (that I tipped out, stuck in my pocket, whatever). Those couple thousand will be reported as a win for me. With only one player at a private table it is absurdly easy for them to calculate net win or loss.
These kinds of statements "pit bosses don't know how much people win or lose at the tables" come from people who don't play much or at any high level. Speculative, theoretical. The number reported at the average table with multiple players isn't meant to be a hundred percent accurate but it's usually close.
Quote: MDawgAnyone who plays table games above board regularly with a player's card knows that the win or loss noted at the end of the session is more or less accurate, especially at high limit tables.
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The people who question these statements don't even play much at the tables, or are slots players. They certainly are not playing at a private table where everything is easily tracked. It's easy to say "if I do this, this will happen," but how many are actually following up to prove it?
At that small level of play showing a tiny loss (assuming your action even throws them off) is not going to get you much if any comps anyway. If you're able to earn comps at all it will be based on theo.
Quote: MDawgBy the way, why do you even stick a chip in your pocket off the table anyway? What does that accomplish?
At that small level of play showing a tiny loss (assuming your action even throws them off) is not going to get you much if any comps anyway. If you're able to earn comps at all it will be based on theo.
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You may be correct, but my limited experience makes me believe otherwise. I have a ‘won loss’ statement that is available to me, and I am 100% sure it overestimates my losses (or underestimates my winnings!) due to my extremely low level shenanigans. I believe I am overcomped as a result. But to such a low level it doesn’t merit a post here!
I absolutely agree with you that at your level at a private table betting $$$ and $$$$ a hand they will be able to (and want to!) track you more accurately than a guppy like myself.
What you may be missing is that how they watch you, treat you, value you, is not in the same zip code as to what they think of me. Let’s move on to your next session!
Now given that you only get 10% of actual loss, you'd have to show at least -3500 in actual losses for the host to even bother with calculating your comps based on actual loss. And as you know, theo loss remains whatever it is, win, lose or draw (this was the concept DarkOz seemed to be having a hard time with). So, unless your scheme results in showing a loss of over 3500, in such a scenario, it is for nought as far as comps.
Basically, because you get only 10% of actual loss versus 35% of theo, you really would have to show far more losses than any little pocketing a little chip off the table scheme could create, in order to wind up ahead in comps.
How about the chips you take to your room and photograph?
What about the chips you take with you and then replay at another session?
How long do they keep those records?
What about the $$$$ of comp chips you say you receive?
What about your buy-ins for each session? Do you suppose they are going to release that info, plus the time in/time out?
If the IRS were to ask for those records because of your shouting from the rooftops of your continuous winning, that the casino would release those records? And would you want that?
What about markers that are not redeemed at the end of a session because of a previous engagement?
But mostly, chip counts do NOT show actual play, and that is what is necessary to validate. Period.
tuttigym