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For us (ex) New Yorkers, I have to spend 183 days out of state to (legally) avoid NYS income taxes. I made it to around 190 last year, likely 200 this year!
Quote: SOOPOODo you spend enough time in Vegas to be a Nevada resident and avoid California income taxes?
For us (ex) New Yorkers, I have to spend 183 days out of state to (legally) avoid NYS income taxes. I made it to around 190 last year, likely 200 this year!
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Fantastic, I didn't realize that you were spending that much time in Florida.
Quote: SOOPOODo you spend enough time in Vegas to be a Nevada resident and avoid California income taxes?
For us (ex) New Yorkers, I have to spend 183 days out of state to (legally) avoid NYS income taxes. I made it to around 190 last year, likely 200 this year!
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Not entirely because I still have CA businesses. But - yes I made the switch a few years ago.
-Win $120K
-Win $100K
-Win $90K
-Lose $130K
-Lose $250K
When I lost I just kept losing. Had this memorable hand where I had 10 grand each on big and small tiger 6 with $120K on Bank itself I started with total 1, Player started with total 0 (two monkeys), I got the 5 for big tiger but Player drew a freakin’ 7. So instead of winning $620K I lost $140K.
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First one I got down -350K before you knew it. I left for a bit, came back, rallied and actually got ahead, but not more than +50K. Then was down about -110K, ended up winning just under +$20K.
Second session much better, never down, and walked with +$160K
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One I was down about -300K at the low point ended ahead +$150K
The other down as much as -150K at the low ended flat even.
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Largest bet was $35K where I also bet 5000 on tie and hit the tie. Dealer remarked - “No one bets 5000 on tie.”
Second largest bet $25K, which I lost.
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First lost -$400K
Second won +$300K with most of it coming from the penultimate hand a wager of 250K
Third won $110K betting far too little on 12 Player run.
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First +$90K
Second +$30K
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+$125K
Also earned a sh*t ton of slots free play on a promo that I just gave her to play.
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Quote: MDawgAlso earned a sh*t ton of slots free play on a promo that I just gave her to play.
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Any selectivity in those game choices, or just a "have fun - smack buttons"?
(At one of my usual spots, I managed to find a 5 for 2 VBJ that often exceeds par on redemptions.)
She doesn't like video poker or blackjack.
Quote: MDawgIf I were playing the slots I would do research and figure that out, but she just plays for fun. I have presented some input as to which machines I am aware have a lower hold, but not to the point of AP slot play.
She doesn't like video poker or blackjack.
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Of course. No sense in cancelling joy.
One time she outdid me, and hit a jackpot for a few thousand off just a small amount of free play, but otherwise she doesn't cash out 2X much if at all. I had a recent promo where I received 12000 in free play on slots which is substantial, given that it was a promo earned through table play where I was winning at the tables anyway, and she did okay with that on some machines, but in the end cleared barely 50%.
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My joy is in watching her push dem buttons she looks so cute concentrating on the screen, and taking an occasional pic surreptitiously. But if I were to show her the pics she'd probably get upset as she thinks I don't take the best pictures.
Two sessions both good.
+$35K
+$250K
Also earned a little slots free play. Not a lot it was locked into a certain offer with a low ceiling.
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+$106K
+$100K
Also earned a little slots free play. Not a lot it was locked into a certain offer with a low ceiling.
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Another low roller question here…. Since you use a credit line, meaning they have your bank info, do they ACH the winnings to your bank or give you an actual paper check?
When I get a paper check which is the way I do it always these days, at least I have physical proof of what is owed me. Depending on which bank I deposit into true sometimes there is a hold placed on the funds for up to five business days if the check is six figures or even seven but at least I know I’m getting my money.
Checks only for verified winnings; buy in or front money will be returned in same form as it was brought in. I don’t know what the minimum needed to get a check is since I am a fully verified player anyway playing with a credit line.
Yes I’ve heard and read about players signing over a check from one casino to another I’ve never done that.
CTR only for cash in or out > $10K over 24 hour period.
+$202.5K
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Quote: ChumpChangeAll these card counters are always trying to get cash at the cage for their $10K+ of chips then they are met on their way out by security and told that they are trespassed and they can't come back again. If they took a check instead of cash, would the casino put a stop payment on the check? I realize these card counters need their cash right away for their next casino stop. They could use a casino check at the next casino couldn't they? On another note, they may only get a couple thousand on a check because they bought in for $8K on their initial losing streak so they'll want that $8K back in cash anyway. There's no CTR for taking $8K buy-in cash back and a check for a few thousand more of winnings is there? Casinos don't need your banking or life history to cut you or cash you a casino check like they do with front money, do they?
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That is not a smart thing for a counter to do, try to cash out for more than $10K. You don't want any grief at the cage and the less talking you do to those people the better, so anything where they are asking you questions, asking for ID, calling supervisors etc. is an opportunity for things to go bad and you are better off keeping it small and coming back as many times as you need to to cash out the rest.
Quote: ChumpChangeAll these card counters are always trying to get cash at the cage for their $10K+ of chips then they are met on their way out by security and told that they are trespassed and they can't come back again. If they took a check instead of cash, would the casino put a stop payment on the check? I realize these card counters need their cash right away for their next casino stop. They could use a casino check at the next casino couldn't they? On another note, they may only get a couple thousand on a check because they bought in for $8K on their initial losing streak so they'll want that $8K back in cash anyway. There's no CTR for taking $8K buy-in cash back and a check for a few thousand more of winnings is there? Casinos don't need your banking or life history to cut you or cash you a casino check like they do with front money, do they?
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The casino is unlikely to make the check payable to "CASH". If your goal is to keep your name out of their records, telling them your name so they can cut you a check is counterproductive.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: ChumpChangeAll these card counters are always trying to get cash at the cage for their $10K+ of chips then they are met on their way out by security and told that they are trespassed and they can't come back again. If they took a check instead of cash, would the casino put a stop payment on the check? I realize these card counters need their cash right away for their next casino stop. They could use a casino check at the next casino couldn't they? On another note, they may only get a couple thousand on a check because they bought in for $8K on their initial losing streak so they'll want that $8K back in cash anyway. There's no CTR for taking $8K buy-in cash back and a check for a few thousand more of winnings is there? Casinos don't need your banking or life history to cut you or cash you a casino check like they do with front money, do they?
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That is not a smart thing for a counter to do, try to cash out for more than $10K. You don't want any grief at the cage and the less talking you do to those people the better, so anything where they are asking you questions, asking for ID, calling supervisors etc. is an opportunity for things to go bad and you are better off keeping it small and coming back as many times as you need to to cash out the rest.
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With high value chips, the cage is going to contact the pit to get verification. If you leave the casino and come back the next day, that's going to be difficult.
Showing ID would not necessarily be enough there would have to be proof that the chips are yours.
For example, say someone found a 5000 chip. Proving his identity is immaterial to cashing it, the casino wants to verify that it is yours!
Quote: KevinAAQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: ChumpChangeAll these card counters are always trying to get cash at the cage for their $10K+ of chips then they are met on their way out by security and told that they are trespassed and they can't come back again. If they took a check instead of cash, would the casino put a stop payment on the check? I realize these card counters need their cash right away for their next casino stop. They could use a casino check at the next casino couldn't they? On another note, they may only get a couple thousand on a check because they bought in for $8K on their initial losing streak so they'll want that $8K back in cash anyway. There's no CTR for taking $8K buy-in cash back and a check for a few thousand more of winnings is there? Casinos don't need your banking or life history to cut you or cash you a casino check like they do with front money, do they?
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That is not a smart thing for a counter to do, try to cash out for more than $10K. You don't want any grief at the cage and the less talking you do to those people the better, so anything where they are asking you questions, asking for ID, calling supervisors etc. is an opportunity for things to go bad and you are better off keeping it small and coming back as many times as you need to to cash out the rest.
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With high value chips, the cage is going to contact the pit to get verification. If you leave the casino and come back the next day, that's going to be difficult.
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That's another thing I don't do. Anything bigger than a black is potentially a problem at the cage, and in some small joints they even sweat a black.
So if I were to walk into a casino to cash a $5000 cheque, I'm going straight to the craps table to play $100 craps for an hour, pay a $37 tax, watch out for rail thieves and then go to the cage. They will rarely give you any crap at a craps table.
Best of all if you split it up between two tables in two pits:
You walk up to the cage with 4 pumpkins and 8 or 9 black...
"Where were you playing?"
"Oh, over there at that craps table."
Call the pit "Verify a cashout of..."
"Yeah, he came with like 5 in black, left with 4 thousands and..."
"OK."
See the girl in the cage isn't prepared to audit and trace those chips throughout the casino, she just wants to hear a pit boss say that's what they gave me.
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What are you trying to accomplish here? What is the end goal.
Where did you present this $5000. check? At the cage? as front money?
As far as the rest of what you describe, the system is more advanced than that these days. The pit boss has to enter a "rating" at the end of the session, which includes buy in or amount withdrawn from credit line, average bet, time played, and how much you walk with (win/loss included in that figure). Obviously if you are not a rated (known player) with a player card, the pit boss isn't going to track anything much because he would have no account into which to place the ratings.
Then when you go to the cage, all of that information is already there on the cashier's screen, and it is based on that that the cashier will cash out or issue a check, for the higher denomination chips. If you run to the cage quickly, the rating might not yet be entered and the cashier will THEN phone the pit after asking where you played, to get the same rating quickly, verbally, that will be entered into the computer.
If you manage to cash you chips under the radar, and I have done a lot of testing to see what the system will tolerate, then no phone call is made, just chips are exchanged for cash. I do cash chips under the radar sometimes when I want to get some cash outs from my earnings without jeopardizing my credit line. Cash too many chips, and a credit line might be shut down temporarily, anywhere from 48 hours to a week, because the casino wants to discourage your "walking with chips."
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P.S. At one or more of the casinos where I play, pumpkins are $25K chips.
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What are you trying to accomplish here? What is the end goal.
Where did you present this $5000. check? At the cage? as front money?...
In my case, it would be that I bought in for cash, no card or rating, raped a table, and want to get out of there without showing ID or having a bunch of phone calls made and tapes watched that end up with me getting read the trespass act. I wouldn't accept a $5K cheque, but the same applies to $1K or $500. If I have just black I can cash that out piecemeal.
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What are you trying to accomplish here? What is the end goal.
Where did you present this $5000. check? At the cage? as front money?...
In my case, it would be that I bought in for cash, no card or rating, raped a table, and want to get out of there without showing ID or having a bunch of phone calls made and tapes watched that end up with me getting read the trespass act. I wouldn't accept a $5K cheque, but the same applies to $1K or $500. If I have just black I can cash that out piecemeal.
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At your level it seems eminently doable. 50 black chips would be easy to cycle through with not much difficulty, if there is no urgency. MDawg is betting a multiple of that on a single hand of bac.
I’ve only once been asked at a cashier ANYTHING! At the Orleans, when I was cashing my single $1k chip after a really fun Asia Poker win. They called the pit to verify. As a guppy, I LIKED it!

