rxwine
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June 5th, 2021 at 2:58:23 PM permalink
Playing nickel poker up to $200
If no royal
Then
Play quarter poker up to $1000
If no royal
Etc., etc.,

It’s not doubling. Has someone already given it a name?
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June 5th, 2021 at 3:04:50 PM permalink
It's called throwing your money away 40,000 hands at a time.
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June 5th, 2021 at 4:25:41 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

It's called throwing your money away 40,000 hands at a time.



... "accruing ADT".
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June 5th, 2021 at 4:57:08 PM permalink
At the Emerald Island, you can play VP for anywhere from one cent to $25 a hand. Ive seen people start at the penny and go up one cent per hand until a win and then start over. If you are a heavy drinker, the game can be worth $20 an hour.
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June 5th, 2021 at 5:15:31 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

At the Emerald Island, you can play VP for anywhere from one cent to $25 a hand. Ive seen people start at the penny and go up one cent per hand until a win and then start over. If you are a heavy drinker, the game can be worth $20 an hour.



Heh. One of my neighbors would grab someone's empty glass, sit down at a machine, and catch the waitress going by and ask for "another" drink. He might put money in the machine but not play.
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June 5th, 2021 at 5:28:19 PM permalink
By "up to $200," do you mean $200 coin-in (i.e. 800 hands, assuming you're playing 5 nickels/hand), or until you lose the whole $200?
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June 5th, 2021 at 6:06:38 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

By "up to $200," do you mean $200 coin-in (i.e. 800 hands, assuming you're playing 5 nickels/hand), or until you lose the whole $200?



I was thinking until $200 is lost.
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June 5th, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Playing nickel poker up to $200
If no royal
Then
Play quarter poker up to $1000
If no royal
Etc., etc.,

It’s not doubling. Has someone already given it a name?

It's the good old, "I'm due for a royal" theory

There were some AP's back in the day, when you could find all kinds of +EV denominations up to $100 denomination like 9/6 with cashback on the card who would take shots scaling up when they had been on a royal drought in-between plays. They were playing with a small advantage, but way above their bankroll. I know a few people that hit royals on the higher denominations quickly and did very very well, but it's rare to hear about the guys who went broke trying its sort of thing.
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June 5th, 2021 at 7:06:02 PM permalink
Maybe go to the next denomination up when you're down 10,000 coins on the one you're at.
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June 5th, 2021 at 7:43:33 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I was thinking until $200 is lost.


I suppose you could call it a form of Martingaling, although keep in mind, some of us are still waiting for that first Royal.
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June 6th, 2021 at 5:34:47 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Maybe go to the next denomination up when you're down 10,000 coins on the one you're at.



It doesn't matter what you do or call it, -EV is -EV is... EV, It's best to stop looking for, or coming up with ways to trick -EV games.

If it's for entertainment and u know that, that's fine, but there is no good reason to categorize it or come up with a fancy name for it.
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June 6th, 2021 at 7:55:30 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It doesn't matter what you do or call it, -EV is -EV is... EV, It's best to stop looking for, or coming up with ways to trick -EV games.

If it's for entertainment and u know that, that's fine, but there is no good reason to categorize it or come up with a fancy name for it.



I think I may have to disagree with the last phrase. It’s like the list of logic fallacies that you can find reference to. It informs. Some things have names already. Some things may still need names.

I’m gonna try to invent a term right now.

“Tapping or knocking” when a gambler taps or knocks on a video screen to cause a favorable outcome.
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June 6th, 2021 at 7:57:02 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine



“Tapping or knocking” when a gambler taps or knocks on a video screen to cause a favorable outcome.



I just snicker everytime that I see someone doing that.
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June 6th, 2021 at 10:35:19 AM permalink
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I just snicker everytime that I see someone doing that.



Just one of the numerous entertainments offered.
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June 6th, 2021 at 10:53:21 AM permalink
I forgot the "rubbers".

But then what guy hasn't?

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June 7th, 2021 at 2:31:27 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Playing nickel poker up to $200
If no royal
Then
Play quarter poker up to $1000
If no royal
Etc., etc.,

It’s not doubling. Has someone already given it a name?



That’s just a variant of Singer’s system that takes longer to ramp up the betting. Another difference is it didn’t necessarily have to be a Royal in Singer’s system, which was just win goal based.
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