Negroni
Negroni
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September 8th, 2020 at 11:10:03 PM permalink
Hello Wizard and all!


I'm new here, i hope you won't see it rude i start with so many questions and such a big post 🙏

I Was looking for answers for big questions for unusual gambling scenario i got into , and that place seems the only place in the net that will give me professional logic answers with integrity.

As recent events in Asia, there are people that selling there account in 40%-50% of what is worth.

As a group we just bough big account and we desperate for getting our chances better as possible.
(we profitable already so far but scared that we might wipe it out )



There are few Restrictions :

1.you not allow to cash out the chips you bought, you must play with them only and keep them in the casino, only the positive allowed to be cash out daily.

2.what ever you win in the day, you can cash out.

3.you allow to cash out once in 24 hours.

4.Min bet 500usd, Max 50,000usd
Total amonth bought 200,000 usd.

5. can play Baccarat only.



My questions :

1.any preferred gambling strategy for that scenario?
(Oscar, D'Alembert ect.)

2.what should be my daily goal?

3.what is my maximum daily loses should be?

4.what should be my unit size if I want to make around 10,000-20,000 usd profit per day?

5.what the edge for the long run is on for me? And if so, what is it?

Thanks for the reading so far.
Will highly appreciate your thoughts on this.

P.S
3.5 % of profits going to our families feeding foundations in the south of a Asia
So there is a good cause here as well 😁

If there is someone that can suggest consult with payment that will be great as well.
AxelWolf
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September 8th, 2020 at 11:14:41 PM permalink
Quote: Negroni

Hello Wizard and all!


I'm new here, i hope you won't see it rude i start with so many questions and such a big post 🙏

I Was looking for answers for big questions for unusual gambling scenario i got into , and that place seems the only place in the net that will give me professional logic answers with integrity.

As recent events in Asia, there are people that selling there account in 40%-50% of what is worth.

As a group we just bough big account and we desperate for getting our chances better as possible.
(we profitable already so far but scared that we might wipe it out )



There are few Restrictions :

1.you not allow to cash out the chips you bought, you must play with them only and keep them in the casino, only the positive allowed to be cash out daily.

2.what ever you win in the day, you can cash out.

3.you allow to cash out once in 24 hours.

4.Min bet 500usd, Max 50,000usd
Total amonth bought 200,000 usd.

5. can play Baccarat only.



My questions :

1.any preferred gambling strategy for that scenario?
(Oscar, D'Alembert ect.)

2.what should be my daily goal?

3.what is my maximum daily loses should be?

4.what the edge for the long run is on for me? And if so, what is it?

Thanks for the reading so far.
Will highly appreciate your thoughts on this.

P.S
3.5 % of profits going to our families feeding foundations in the south of a Asia
So there is a good cause here as well 😁

If there is someone that can suggest consult with payment that will be great as well.

Can you explain what you mean by buy an account?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Negroni
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September 8th, 2020 at 11:18:15 PM permalink
Basically I buying someone chips that he can't realse from the janket.

Hard to explain the reason but basically i bought the 100,000 usd in 50,000 usd.
sabre
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September 9th, 2020 at 12:14:01 AM permalink
Just flat bet $500 a hand on banker until you've converted all the dead chips to cashable chips, cash them out, and never return

Why would you need a system?
Why would you have a daily goal?
Why would you have a max daily loss?
Why are you talking about daily profits?

The chips are worth about 97.63% of face value according to https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/promotional-chips/
Negroni
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September 9th, 2020 at 12:24:23 AM permalink
I can't convert them.

It's will give me to cash out only my positive from the day.
sabre
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September 9th, 2020 at 12:32:22 AM permalink
I have no idea what you're talking about then. I assumed you meant when you bet the dead chip you receive a cashable chip if you win, keeping the dead chip to bet again. If you lose you lose the dead chip.

If it's some other bizarre thing then you probably got ripped off.
OnceDear
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September 9th, 2020 at 1:14:28 AM permalink
Quote: Negroni

Hello Wizard and all!


I'm new here, i hope you won't see it rude i start with so many questions and such a big post 🙏


Hi and welcome to the forum. You are only allowed one user Id here, so I disabled the other one created at the same time from the same IP address.

I've no problem with the long post, though it's a bit ambiguous. Do I understand that for any winning day, you can cash out your profit but only your profit. If you made one single wager of $10,000 on a winning even money bet, do you get to cash out $10,000 and get to keep the stake chip as well?

If you do get to keep the stake chip, then I estimate your return >90% of the nominal account value. If they retain the stake chip, return is under 50%

Not going to analyse further until you explain further.

Methinks you should have done the maths before buying the 'accounts'. I reckon you got ripped off.
Last edited by: OnceDear on Sep 9, 2020
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
Negroni
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September 9th, 2020 at 1:59:25 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

I have no idea what you're talking about then. I assumed you meant when you bet the dead chip you receive a cashable chip if you win, keeping the dead chip to bet again. If you lose you lose the dead chip.

If it's some other bizarre thing then you probably got ripped off.



We haven't been rip off.
That for sure. 😊
OnceDear
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September 9th, 2020 at 2:15:18 AM permalink
Quote: Negroni

We haven't been rip off.
That for sure. 😊

Why don't you answer the simple questions that would enable us to give you the analysis that you asked for?
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
Negroni
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September 9th, 2020 at 2:47:45 AM permalink
Hi there!
Sorry for the double account I just didn't want my full name here and it's can't be changed.
My apologies.

So basically if we get to the table with 100,000 worth of chips,
If we betting and getting to 110, 00 i can leave with only the 10,000 cash (might need to commsion 5% for all)
The other 100,000 stay in the account.

If I lose and reach 80,000 $ meaning I lost 20,000 i need to pay to the chip owner account 50% meaning 10,000$.

I know it's sound rip off, but that happened due account that can't and don't play anymore
The deal isn't from the casino its from the account chip owner.

We already done it before and earn pretty good money, that unique opportunity,but I wanted to make our profit even better.

Hope I made myself clear, as you probably noticed English isn't my first language.

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