The Adventures of MDawg
April 4th, 2021 at 9:24:18 AM
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Quote: ExpectedvalueAxel and kewlj both members who multiple people know have made a living in casinos.
Who knows that kewlj has made a living in casinos, and how do they know?
From trip reports?
April 4th, 2021 at 9:25:02 AM
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Quote: WizardAn agreement has been negotiated between MDawg and Kewlj. Here are the terms, which both parties have agreed to.
1. This thread has been moved to the "Betting Systems" category.
2. Kewlj will stay out of this thread. He may not comment on it in other threads. If Mdawg posts in another thread, Kewlj may address that post only wherever it may be located.
I will be enforcing this agreement. However, I trust both parties to be men of their words and go their separate ways.
This is a great accomplishment Wiz. But only a start. At least three others need to be removed from posting.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
April 4th, 2021 at 9:28:33 AM
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Quote: ExpectedvalueThe fact that yo brag comes across as obnoxious. Your bragging could be construed as rude . Even your screen name is a needle. You come and you make claims in this forum insulting the mathematics behind it. You insult Axel and kewlj both members who multiple people know have made a living in casinos. You love the attention and made your own forum to brag further.
Are these the things that bother you enough to search the strip
morning, noon and night for 8 days to find the author?
April 4th, 2021 at 9:30:34 AM
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Quote: coachbellyAre these the things that bother you enough to search the strip
morning, noon and night for 8 days to find the author?
It's not that nobody believes you.
Nobody cares what you post
Wise up
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
April 4th, 2021 at 9:33:57 AM
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Quote: terapinedIt's not that nobody believes you.
Nobody cares what you post
Wise up
Please take your negativity back to the sing and dance thread.
See you there.
April 4th, 2021 at 9:35:43 AM
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Quote: coachbellyPlease take your negativity back to the sing and dance thread.
See you there.
All you do is internet warrior on this thread
Again
It's not that anybody believes you
Nobody cares what you post
Please wise up
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
April 4th, 2021 at 9:36:18 AM
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I will demonstrate this to Mike next time he is available at my convinance.Quote: coachbellyWhen?
And when are you going to catch up with the rest of your list
of other things you said that you would demonstrate?
You haven't posted anything that you said you would.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 4th, 2021 at 9:42:58 AM
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Quote: coachbellyPlease take your negativity back to the sing and dance thread.
See you there.
Lol
See me where???????.
On my REAL adventures ?
Are you in Northern NV
It's a forum. It's nothing. Fluff. Zeroes and ones.
Cyberspace ain't the real world. Its fantasy.
I live a REAL world life
You get furious when we question something
Go ahead. Post that my pics are not real
Bump the thread. Please. lol
Unlike people here that get upset when we question something
I would laugh if you dont think I'm the real deal
And
You would be laughed at. There is no doubt on this forum that my adventures are REAL
I;m going on to lake Tahoe
I know you cant join me because you live on this forum
Go outside, get some fresh air, a forum is not the place to spend your life
Last edited by: terapined on Apr 4, 2021
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
April 4th, 2021 at 11:11:50 AM
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It's really more about the action – knocking these casinos over for money all the time being comp’ed on their nickel that means something to me more than the money. Compare it to how I will trade a million dollars worth of stock to book five hundred dollars, and don’t even withdraw a penny of the proceeds from the account. Whatever I am winning here I’m just sticking into the bank or safety deposit box, I don’t need it. It’s mostly the IDEA of winning that matters to me. I said I treat this as a business but in a sense what I mean is that it’s all a game to me, a game that I’ve figured out how to beat the casinos. For those of you who don’t believe there is any way to figure it out, then call it, that I’ve managed a way to beat the casinos. And that’s what keeps me going because otherwise at some point even all this gets to be a little much. We don’t want to live our lives in hotel suites, it’s not like what we have at home isn’t far better than even the best they may offer us here.
Some of the above may sound a little too cocky but after all the winning sessions I’ve managed, I think it might be safe to take on a modicum of hubris. I didn't get to where I am without a lot of ups and downs in Vegas 1.0, my first rodeo at the casinos, from over a decade ago. That decade or so hiatus really brought perspective, and balance, to the equation. Try it sometime and let me know. Until you've taken a decade or so break from something you can't tell me that it doesn't change anything.
But anyway, as long as I keep winning and until I have to go home for real world affairs that may not be managed virtually I keep her happy enough to stay here a while.
Still, if you could see the amount of personal belongings we bring into town with us, you’d know we’re here for an extended stay. Every time the bellman (sometimes bellmen) load/s the carts I feel compelled to mention something about how, "We've been here ____ weeks." or "We'll be here a while." just because it is almost embarrassing the amount of luggage and other stuff we have. I seriously doubt anyone in Vegas has this much stuff in the suite.
That poor fool probably thinks we're plugged into some kind of special cop channel. You should call back and ask him to send up a 3000 watt sensing capacitator, along with the ice. Tell him ours just burned out.
No - we don't have one of those up in the suite. But close.
Some of the above may sound a little too cocky but after all the winning sessions I’ve managed, I think it might be safe to take on a modicum of hubris. I didn't get to where I am without a lot of ups and downs in Vegas 1.0, my first rodeo at the casinos, from over a decade ago. That decade or so hiatus really brought perspective, and balance, to the equation. Try it sometime and let me know. Until you've taken a decade or so break from something you can't tell me that it doesn't change anything.
But anyway, as long as I keep winning and until I have to go home for real world affairs that may not be managed virtually I keep her happy enough to stay here a while.
Still, if you could see the amount of personal belongings we bring into town with us, you’d know we’re here for an extended stay. Every time the bellman (sometimes bellmen) load/s the carts I feel compelled to mention something about how, "We've been here ____ weeks." or "We'll be here a while." just because it is almost embarrassing the amount of luggage and other stuff we have. I seriously doubt anyone in Vegas has this much stuff in the suite.
That poor fool probably thinks we're plugged into some kind of special cop channel. You should call back and ask him to send up a 3000 watt sensing capacitator, along with the ice. Tell him ours just burned out.
No - we don't have one of those up in the suite. But close.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
April 4th, 2021 at 11:14:15 AM
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Maybe you could buy yourself a seat at the WSOP.
April 4th, 2021 at 11:18:38 AM
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Quote: terapinedyou live on this forum
Check your post count.
Make sure your camper isn't made of glass, or put the rocks down.
April 4th, 2021 at 11:29:34 AM
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Thank you Wizard for moving the thread to its proper page.
April 4th, 2021 at 11:32:30 AM
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Your account is highly suspect to me and many others. I believe even KJ had some good observations about your account. Even though I think it's highly likely you are a dupe account/sockpuppet/behind-the-scenes conspirator or whatever, ill respond.Quote: Marcusclark66Why is it you are so drawn to this thread?
Why?
Why don't you just stay out of it? Seriously dude?
All you do is seemingly tossing in your monkey wrenches trying for some things to magically get rid of MDawg and his large following you are obviously IMO quite upset over. Why? IMO you should just block this #1 thread of the forum!
Everything said herein is IMO and meant only to out the so obvious 'going ons' that you skim and skirt around just coming out to admit MDawg has accomplished what so many dream of doing but failed to ever do.
So your ONE LINE ATTACK OF: 'CRUDE ACCUSATIONS' Against MDawg imo sucks!
You should ask yourself and MDawg the " High priced attorney, multi-millionaire(in BTC alone), fancy watch wearing, High Rolling baccarat aficionado, who is always winning... is obsessed with me and cares what little old AW says or thinks. I should be but a pimple on a nats ass to him if all those things he would have us believe are actually true. One might think... it's because I have come close to the truth as I have many times in the past.
How many threads has he started about me and over how many forums has that been across, including ones I don't even participate at? How many times has he obviously cried to the Wizard about me, AND SO MANNY OTHERS? How many different people does he send PMs to? I might be arguing with a few people(probably dupe accounts) on the forums at any one time. He has what seems like 10+ at any one time. If you have soo many haters and people who think you are full of it, there's a good chance the problem is you.
I'm drawn to this thread because it's front and center and it's where people are participating. Go back look at the history of this forum and other gambling forums, people seem to be drawn in by BS and controversy, it's a guilty pleasure and entertainment for so many people. One only needs to look at the Rob Singers's, Jerry Logans's Nathans, and B79's of the forums to confirm this. I have always said, most people come for the information, but they stay for the drama. I can handle doing so without getting upset, obsessed, stressed, losing sleep, or really caring.
MDawg is not the first member who is mostly unbelieved by a good many members, and he won't be the last. He is just the flavor of the times, but unlike many others, he has managed to not get himself nuked.
p.s. I thought you said you were not responding to me, I guess you only do that when you want to avoid answering a question that might expose the truth.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 4th, 2021 at 11:52:56 AM
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Real. I am real. I am the truth. People on the Casino property feel the metal clicking harder and harder around their wrists and hear the words that they are being detained and the sheriff is on the way, they then realize exactly what it is I'm talking about.
People do not realize it until it's usually too late just like on the Forum. I think the analogy is perfect!
You can mention all of your analogies and all of your x-banned people but it's all trivial and doesn't really matter. At least in my opinion, because it's not part of this conversation
People do not realize it until it's usually too late just like on the Forum. I think the analogy is perfect!
You can mention all of your analogies and all of your x-banned people but it's all trivial and doesn't really matter. At least in my opinion, because it's not part of this conversation
Marcus Clark. Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66. *Professional Casino Security Expert.
*Certified EMT
*Certified Company Firearms Instructor.
*Certified Gaming Regulations Interpreter for Corporate Applications.
*Domestic UrbanTactical Combat Casualty Expert.
*Tic-Tac-Toe Expert (Real Competitive Versions) & Mastering Chess.
*Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club.
*Mastering Cracking it. Bit-by-Bit, Piece-by-Piece Crediting Forum Members.
*Certified Casino Property Entry & Exit Point Analyzer
*Baccarat Winning Session Record: 12 out of 12 & 1 out of 1 Mini Session. Baccarat Losing Session Record: 2 Losing Sessions.
April 4th, 2021 at 11:55:05 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfIf you have soo many haters and people who think you are full of it,
there's a good chance the problem is you.
I think the problems are more a function of the personalities of so many haters,
rather than the kind members who generously share their adventures.
As you point out above, MDawg is not the first member to get belittled by the gang.
MDawg's intentions were to be friendly, but he wasn't treated kindly, and was dragged
into a quagmire of resentment and hostility that you are primarily responsible for.
This would be a much shorter thread if not for so many antagonizing hateful replies
directed towards the OP.
April 4th, 2021 at 11:59:41 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI should be but a pimple on a nats ass to him
Time passes, things change.
I don't MDawg will be reading or replying to you again,
or paying any more attention to you whatsoever.
Things are as you say they should be.
April 4th, 2021 at 12:40:58 PM
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Quote: Marcusclark66Real. I am real. I am the truth. People on the Casino property feel the metal clicking harder and harder around their wrists and hear the words that they are being detained and the sheriff is on the way, they then realize exactly what it is I'm talking about.
People do not realize it until it's usually too late just like on the Forum. I think the analogy is perfect!
You can mention all of your analogies and all of your x-banned people but it's all trivial and doesn't really matter. At least in my opinion, because it's not part of this conversation
And then comes the lawsuits.
My experience, those haughty security and surveillance people melt like ice cream in the sun once they are being cross-examined by an attorney.
Suddenly they look really small!
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 4th, 2021 at 1:09:39 PM
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Quote: darkozAnd then comes the lawsuits.
....a unanimous defense verdict on behalf of the only casino in
New York City in a lawsuit involving claims of false arrest and assault
perpetrated by the security staff.
April 4th, 2021 at 1:22:42 PM
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Quote: coachbelly....a unanimous defense verdict on behalf of the only casino in
New York City in a lawsuit involving claims of false arrest and assault
perpetrated by the security staff.
I see you took down the specific information because I was about to complain you were doxxing.
But yes that's my lawsuit. NY was a tough place to win being this isn't a gambling town. I had a choice of doing an appeal but really I found lawsuits taxing. They take a lot of your time (of course if you are MDawg court takes zero time leaving him free to gamble for weeks on end)
But those security guards didn't look so good. One was sweating profusely the whole time.
I really wish I could show you guys the surveillance footage. The casino refused to hand it over for three years and then finally, with the NDA caveat that the footage could not be presented publicly.
I wonder what the casino wanted to hide?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 4th, 2021 at 1:43:20 PM
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Quote: terapinedAll you do is internet warrior on this thread
Again
It's not that anybody believes you
Nobody cares what you post
Please wise up
This is not true. Marcus Clark cares what CoachBelly posts. Wellbush cares what Marcus Clark posts. CoachBelly cares what wellbush posts. All 3 care what MDawg posts.
I am pleased that kewlj will not be posting in this thread anymore. It wasn’t good for kewlj. I will remain skeptical of MDawg’s claims. But also try and remain respectful. I enjoy reading MDawg’s trip reports. And he and I have money to make tomorrow in the biggest casino in the world..
April 4th, 2021 at 1:52:31 PM
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Quote: coachbellyWho knows that kewlj has made a living in casinos, and how do they know?
From trip reports?
You make a good debate captain, that’s about that. You can tell when someone speaks from knowledge and those that talk nonsense ...:: in the gambling world . Mdawg is no different that those touts that claim 90-1 records in sports. Do you defend those guys as well?
April 4th, 2021 at 1:56:48 PM
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This should absolutely still be doxxing.. I’ll lodge the complaint for you .
April 4th, 2021 at 1:59:59 PM
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Quote: ExpectedvalueThis should absolutely still be doxxing.. I’ll lodge the complaint for you .
Thank you.
He originally listed the name of the law firm for the defense and their verbiage about the case which could easily lead to me
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 4th, 2021 at 2:00:28 PM
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"Do you ever get the feeling that this stories too damned real, and in the present................. tense?
Or that everybody's on the stage, and you're the only person sitting in the audience?"
Happy Easter, everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or that everybody's on the stage, and you're the only person sitting in the audience?"
Happy Easter, everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
April 4th, 2021 at 2:44:21 PM
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Keep on move-in, move-in, move-in keep those Mdogies move-in Rawhide. Though you're disapproving, keep those Mdogies move-in Rawhide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_rHrLHIeyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_rHrLHIeyI
April 4th, 2021 at 2:53:35 PM
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Quote: coachbellyWho knows that kewlj has made a living in casinos, and how do they know?
From trip reports?
Foul. KewlJ can not respond to your post in this thread.
April 4th, 2021 at 3:08:07 PM
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Quote: darkozBut those security guards didn't look so good. One was sweating profusely the whole time.
NDA...why would the plaintiff agree?
Was the surveillance footage presented at trial?
I wish we could see footage of the trial or deposition
or whatever sweaty event you are recounting.
Your testimony is not verifiable without out it.
April 4th, 2021 at 3:21:43 PM
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Quote: ExpectedvalueThis should absolutely still be doxxing..
He revealed his identity on this forum long ago,
and again when he submitted multiple articles on WOO.
He a published author, selling his work on Amazon.
April 4th, 2021 at 3:30:48 PM
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Quote: BoSoxFoul. KewlJ can not respond to your post in this thread.
The question was not directed to kewlj.
Quote: ExpectedvalueAxel and kewlj both members who multiple people know have made a living in casinos.
Quote: coachbellyWho knows that kewlj has made a living in casinos, and how do they know?
From trip reports?
April 4th, 2021 at 4:32:04 PM
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Quote: coachbellyNDA...why would the plaintiff agree?
Was the surveillance footage presented at trial?
I wish we could see footage of the trial or deposition
or whatever sweaty event you are recounting.
Your testimony is not verifiable without out it.
The plaintiff agreed because the counter argument was if you are refusing to sign the NDA then the intent appears to be to post the surveillance footage publicly which the casino was against.
So casino says to the judge they won't release without the NDA. Judge says shouldn't be a problem if you don't have intent to release which is the casinos argument.
This back and forth took three years.
I'm not barred from discussion of what the tape shows. I just can't post it for you to verify.
A reliable person on this forum has seen it. I would have to ask him if he is okay with me bringing him into it
And yes the footage was presented at trial. Pretty disgusting tactics were done by the defense. Perhaps in a different thread I will elaborate
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 4th, 2021 at 5:53:54 PM
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This Thread is about MDawg not about New York or New York City casinos or anything of a similar nature ROMAFL!
I can only assume that people are seeking to post in the number one hottest most visited thread read that there is on the forum. End of story!
I can only assume that people are seeking to post in the number one hottest most visited thread read that there is on the forum. End of story!
Marcus Clark. Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66. *Professional Casino Security Expert.
*Certified EMT
*Certified Company Firearms Instructor.
*Certified Gaming Regulations Interpreter for Corporate Applications.
*Domestic UrbanTactical Combat Casualty Expert.
*Tic-Tac-Toe Expert (Real Competitive Versions) & Mastering Chess.
*Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club.
*Mastering Cracking it. Bit-by-Bit, Piece-by-Piece Crediting Forum Members.
*Certified Casino Property Entry & Exit Point Analyzer
*Baccarat Winning Session Record: 12 out of 12 & 1 out of 1 Mini Session. Baccarat Losing Session Record: 2 Losing Sessions.
April 4th, 2021 at 6:02:33 PM
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Does anybody post here for ratings?
April 4th, 2021 at 6:10:38 PM
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Quote: Marcusclark66This Thread is about MDawg not about New York or New York City casinos or anything of a similar nature ROMAFL!
I can only assume that people are seeking to post in the number one hottest most visited thread read that there is on the forum. End of story!
Its a forum
Overall, this is meaningless
I come here, post some pics leave. People like them, they dont. I dont care
What threads people post and how many is something that impresses you?
Sad.
Not much really impresses you if this is it.
Checking Guiness book of records? People in India really into that
Its just fluff to me.
A minor form of entertainment as I cruise around the country living a life instead being impressed by a lot of ones and zeroes
I post for friends on FB
This audience is just an afterthought for me
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
April 4th, 2021 at 7:38:21 PM
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This is why you don't ever want to leave Vegas on a Sunday,
at least not if you are driving.
However, it is another sign, as I discussed before, of that the city is getting busier.
at least not if you are driving.
However, it is another sign, as I discussed before, of that the city is getting busier.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
April 4th, 2021 at 9:24:55 PM
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Quote: coachbellyWho knows that kewlj has made a living in casinos, and how do they know?
From trip reports?
This is not fair because kewlj may not defend himself in this thread. Warning issued to not do it again.
As to another situation with darkoz and a lawsuit in New York, let's make a new thread for that, if darkoz wants to discuss it. That would make for good reading.
I do not dispute what MDawg wrote about inviting me to visit him. I have no other reason to go out to the Strip at this time and didn't think the visit would prove or disprove anything. If a reason bubbles up and MDawg is still in town, I will take the meeting if the invitation is still on.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
April 4th, 2021 at 9:35:35 PM
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There you go! Absolutely great! With love, Marcus Clark (which BTW, is my real name!)
Marcus Clark. Real Person; AKA MarcusClark66. *Professional Casino Security Expert.
*Certified EMT
*Certified Company Firearms Instructor.
*Certified Gaming Regulations Interpreter for Corporate Applications.
*Domestic UrbanTactical Combat Casualty Expert.
*Tic-Tac-Toe Expert (Real Competitive Versions) & Mastering Chess.
*Honorary & Official #1 Fan of the MDawg Adventures Club.
*Mastering Cracking it. Bit-by-Bit, Piece-by-Piece Crediting Forum Members.
*Certified Casino Property Entry & Exit Point Analyzer
*Baccarat Winning Session Record: 12 out of 12 & 1 out of 1 Mini Session. Baccarat Losing Session Record: 2 Losing Sessions.
April 4th, 2021 at 9:52:07 PM
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I am still here. I didn't play today we did some other things around town. Whenever Wizard wants to meet with me as long as I am still here I am open. He and I will contact each other privately again, to try to schedule.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
April 4th, 2021 at 10:04:13 PM
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Quote: WizardThis is not fair because kewlj may not defend himself in this thread. Warning issued to not do it again.
As to another situation with darkoz and a lawsuit in New York, let's make a new thread for that, if darkoz wants to discuss it. That would make for good reading.
I do not dispute what MDawg wrote about inviting me to visit him. I have no other reason to go out to the Strip at this time and didn't think the visit would prove or disprove anything. If a reason bubbles up and MDawg is still in town, I will take the meeting if the invitation is still on.
I am Australian and casino illiterate. Would not checking with some casino records (possibly needing MD's permission?) about MD's financial records with them, at least point to a possible successful gambler, or not?
To those who say that these cyber forums are all fluff. I would say: "Probably yes and no." There's much to be learned and enjoyed. As I'm casino illiterate, I can't say that there aren't also cyber falsehoods to be hidden behind.
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
April 4th, 2021 at 10:10:29 PM
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Yes well, that's the entire point of my meeting with him. To prove that the sums I have posted as winning these past few weeks are correct. He and I have gone into exactly what will be verified, and how, via private message. In that there remain certain (and perhaps other) stalkers that are trying desperately to track me down for who knows what reasons, I'd rather continue to leave these discussions with the Wizard private.
Rest assured that if he and I are going to take time out of our day to meet, I will make certain that whatever evidence he wants to satisfy himself will be provided. Since I assume the Wizard knows as much about casinos and table game play as I do, we should be on the same page.
Rest assured that if he and I are going to take time out of our day to meet, I will make certain that whatever evidence he wants to satisfy himself will be provided. Since I assume the Wizard knows as much about casinos and table game play as I do, we should be on the same page.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
April 4th, 2021 at 10:20:35 PM
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MDawg usually ignores me but I have a question.
He says there is no way a person with markers/credit could falsify his wins because he has to pay back his marker of record. Any amount over would be the "win".
Is it the case that a person who has markers is banned from purchasing chips at the table? I just can't imagine that to be the case.
For example,
Player takes out $10,000 marker. He loses $2000.
Player takes cash out his pocket and directly buys in for $3000 more.
After losing $500 he goes to the window and cashes out $10,500 booking a $500 profit (even though in reality he lost $2500).
If allowed to purchase additional cash chips at the table (can't imagine a player is barred from doing so) this is precisely why casino records of wins with markers wouldn't be reliable.
He says there is no way a person with markers/credit could falsify his wins because he has to pay back his marker of record. Any amount over would be the "win".
Is it the case that a person who has markers is banned from purchasing chips at the table? I just can't imagine that to be the case.
For example,
Player takes out $10,000 marker. He loses $2000.
Player takes cash out his pocket and directly buys in for $3000 more.
After losing $500 he goes to the window and cashes out $10,500 booking a $500 profit (even though in reality he lost $2500).
If allowed to purchase additional cash chips at the table (can't imagine a player is barred from doing so) this is precisely why casino records of wins with markers wouldn't be reliable.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 4th, 2021 at 10:36:54 PM
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Quote: darkozIf allowed to purchase additional cash chips at the table (can't imagine a player is barred from doing so) this is precisely why casino records of wins with markers wouldn't be reliable.
Do you suppose that a player who pulled a $10K marker could buy in for $3K more
at the same table without the supervisor entering the cash buy-in into the computer?
I'm not sure that a player can cash out at the cage without paying his markers first,
without violating his credit agreement.
April 4th, 2021 at 10:46:18 PM
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Quote: coachbellyDo you suppose that a player who pulled a $10K marker could buy in for $3K more
at the same table without the supervisor entering the cash buy-in into the computer?
I'm not sure that a player can cash out at the cage without paying his markers first,
without violating his credit agreement.
It's not good etiquette to answer a question with a question. Do you know the answer or not?
MDawg's claims are that with cash buy-in wins could be falsified but not with markers
Are cash buy-in disallowed. If not, then MDawg's own statement makes it possible to falsify wins
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April 5th, 2021 at 12:06:36 AM
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Quote: darkozMDawg's claims are that with cash buy-in wins could be falsified but not with markers
Are cash buy-in disallowed. If not, then MDawg's own statement makes it possible to falsify wins
This assumes that your recollection of MDawg's claim (above) is accurate.
That has not been established, as there's no quote.
It further assumes that a credit line player could falsify wins
by supplementing his marker-drawn stack with cash buy-ins.
That hasn't been established either.
Falsified to whom, the casino? For what purpose?
April 5th, 2021 at 12:24:52 AM
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Quote: MDawgI am still here. I didn't play today we did some other things around town. Whenever Wizard wants to meet with me as long as I am still here I am open. He and I will contact each other privately again, to try to schedule.
Hi MD. I'm just trying to compare my success rate with yours. What would have been your average approx. bet amount, to make up your current 81K profit? How many days or sessions did it take?
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
April 5th, 2021 at 2:41:03 AM
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He can not prove via win-loss statements, a host saying so, or whatever other stuff he seems to be willing to show. For one, WIN's CAN BE FAKED. I'm not going to lay that out in public on the forums. I will explain it to Mike and he can verify, he probably already knows some ways this can be done. Let me pretend he is actully playing the limits he claims(alone and no partner betting) and let's assume he has a casino that shows a 50k win, there is nothing to say he hasn't lost 60k at a different casino. He could easily cherry-pick and not show all his play records/Quote: coachbelly
Falsified to whom, the casino? For what purpose?
I'm sure there are a few good reasons someone might want to fake wins.
Here are some reasons someone might want to fake wins.
1)Ego, just to prove something.
2)Money laundering.
3) Showing proof of income for various reasons, such as a loan to buy a house
Why is it that MDawg won't let Mike witness his high rolling always winning play?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 5th, 2021 at 3:04:51 AM
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Sure is blatantly personal to extreme levels for a handful of members here!
Wow O Wow!
Down to even accusing some of us of being sock puppets and co-conspirators to justify their own personal assumptions with no real proof as well.
Wow O Wow!
Down to even accusing some of us of being sock puppets and co-conspirators to justify their own personal assumptions with no real proof as well.
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:55:02 AM
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The combination of UTTER IGNORANCE of casino workings and RESENTMENT FUELED SPECULATION isn't even worthy of comment.
I have this joy buzzer tied to my ____ that wakes me when any one of my stocks goes up enough to make me over 500 grand, and it just alerted me to that TSLA popped fifty points. Now, that's a joke, at least the part about the buzzer. But so is most of the last dozen or so posts by the detractors.
I have this joy buzzer tied to my ____ that wakes me when any one of my stocks goes up enough to make me over 500 grand, and it just alerted me to that TSLA popped fifty points. Now, that's a joke, at least the part about the buzzer. But so is most of the last dozen or so posts by the detractors.
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April 5th, 2021 at 4:27:21 AM
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Quote: WellbushHi MD. I'm just trying to compare my success rate with yours. What would have been your average approx. bet amount, to make up your current 81K profit? How many days or sessions did it take?
That's an interesting question. Over all, my average bet is over a thousand. However, what's interesting, is that as far as individual sessions, there are times I have won much more with an average bet around say six hundred, than on days with double that average. For example, the session from Day 16, I ended up flat even and my average bet as recorded by the pit boss was 2000. That was the day that I was down a lot, came back to even, and stopped as soon as I had enough to pay off all markers. I think it comes down to that on days my average is higher, it is sometimes due to playing harder during catch up.
Now that is not to say that I automatically press my bet when down. I have had sessions in the past where I was down a LOT and came back slowly and steadily with just a five hundred average bet. But sometimes when I am down I catch a run, press into it, and don't let go until after I am even again, and the run keeps going with the end result - of a pretty high average.
I have played 17 sessions so far this trip. Seventeen days of play. I play only where I stay, and I play one session a day only. In that I have won or at worst broken even at every session, even if I didn't have this rule of "play only where I stay" (which I have broken only twice in the past three years - where I twice ran across the street to win back what I lost at the casino I am staying at), why would I leave the casino where I am staying and winning to go play anywhere else?
Yes, over the past three years the only times I have deviated from that rigid rule of Play Where I Stay were because I lost a good sum at two sessions and went elsewhere and luckily, won it back. Otherwise though, once I complete a session at the casino at which we are staying I have zero incentive to do anything other than relax, eat, hang with the wife or maybe take a victory stroll.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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April 5th, 2021 at 4:42:00 AM
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Quote: MDawgThat's an interesting question. Over all, my average bet is over a thousand. However, what's interesting, is that as far as individual sessions, there are times I have won much more with an average bet around say six hundred, than on days with double that average. For example, the session from Day 16, I ended up flat even and my average bet as recorded by the pit boss was 2000. That was the day that I was down a lot, came back to even, and stopped as soon as I had enough to pay off all markers. I think it comes down to that on days my average is higher, it is sometimes due to playing harder during catch up.
I have played 17 sessions so far this trip. Seventeen days of play. I play only where I stay, and I play one session a day only. In that I have won or at worst broken even at every session, even if I didn't have this rule of "play only where I stay" (which I have broken only twice in the past three years - where I twice ran across the street to win back what I lost at the casino I am staying at), why would I leave the casino where I am staying and winning to go play anywhere else? Yes, over the past three years the only times I have deviated from that rigid rule of Play Where I Stay were because I lost a good sum at two sessions and went elsewhere and luckily, won it back. Otherwise though, once I complete a session at the casino at which we are staying I have zero incentive to do anything other than relax, eat, hang with the wife or maybe take a victory stroll.
Thanks for that info. So if we divide 81K by 17 days, we get about $4,700. If your average bet is about 1K, then your average daily win rate is about 5 times your average bet (4,700/1,000=4.7). If that's correct, it gives me something to go by, in comparison at least.
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
April 5th, 2021 at 4:45:59 AM
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The numbers are correct. My latest average as mentioned by my host was 1200, but then the very next day, I played one shoe only (Day 17), and won over +4000, playing at - barely a 400 average (guessing, I don't always ask the pit boss what my average is, just sometimes I feel like busting the pit boss' chops and trying to negotiate my average higher, because I know most all of these pit bosses and I may say anything to them) - so that Day 17 might have brought my average down a little, to the 1000 or so figure.
By the way, I try to always play alone. I mention that mostly because with just one player at the table there is very little these guys miss, and the wins they record and the average bets I make are I am certain very accurately recorded. For example on my Day 2 play, a suit came out of nowhere and declared that I had been "shortchanged" 500 at some point in the past, and had the dealer hand me another 500 chip, which confirms what I have always known, that they are watching like hawks.
By the way, I try to always play alone. I mention that mostly because with just one player at the table there is very little these guys miss, and the wins they record and the average bets I make are I am certain very accurately recorded. For example on my Day 2 play, a suit came out of nowhere and declared that I had been "shortchanged" 500 at some point in the past, and had the dealer hand me another 500 chip, which confirms what I have always known, that they are watching like hawks.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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