Saved for easy easy viewing.Quote: MDawg
If I ever gave the impression otherwise, I am not interested in meeting anyone other than pursuant to a wager, and primarily I am interested in wagers with those who question my veracity. It's hard enough to win in Vegas without wasting time meeting curiosity seekers for free.
FYI This doesn't give with what you have said in the past. Whatever the case, this says all we need to know about you and your MO for being here.
For all those readers out there, if there ever comes a day where someone is dumb enough to get involved with something like this, just remember, I told you so.
Meantime, I continue to win at the stock market and casinos, and choose to ignore those who had a chance to prove themselves but waffled.
You had the chance to prove yourself before and you were the one that waffled.Quote: MDawgWhy don't you stick to...whatever it is that you do. It obviously isn't accepting monetary wagers to back up your claims.
Meantime, I continue to win at the stock market and casinos, and choose to ignore those who had a chance to prove themselves but waffled.
As Mike said, Put Up or Shut Up, unfortunately you still haven't done either. Who actually did put up, oh yeah, that was me.
In any case, yes it sounds extreme but this is a serious wager, as is the other one.
Take your pick, the wagers are open until the end of March.
Quote: MDawgMy experience too. Never had a problem with Baccarat - win all you like, they might watch closely but no one comes out of the woodwork to shut you down.
Because baccarat can't be beat. Snicker.
Quote: EvenBobBecause baccarat can't be beat. Snicker.
Phil Ivey beat it just fine.
You and MDawg? No. Skittle.
Wagers are open until the end of this month.
Quote: sabrePhil Ivey beat it just fine.
Naw, he cheated. That's not beating
it, that's finding a way around it.
It's a gimmick that can be taken
away. Beating it legit, that's a
learned skill.
Quote: EvenBobNaw, he cheated. That's not beating
it, that's finding a way around it.
It's a gimmick that can be taken
away. Beating it legit, that's a
learned skill.
A learned skill, but apparently not a teachable skill.
That's absolutely not true, In that post I indicated knew it was going to get me suspended for posting it, and it was perfect timing since I knew I wasn't going to be on the forum much during that time anyways. I'm sure one of the mods even have a PM indicating prior that, I knew I was going to get suspended. Mike deleted that post unfortunately(I didn't expect that), no doubt, because you demanded it, since it was embarrassing to you. I'm asking Mike to Ask JB if that post can be recalled. Mike and OD can read it and see if there was any outrage. Mike should put back everything in that post that didn't pertain to the reason I got suspended for.Quote: MDawgAnd you grew outraged, came on here posting all sorts of nonsense the Wizard had to DELETE and got yourself suspended over that wager, didn't you? So...if five grand means that much to you why are you turning down the change for 100X that. My WIN statements from 2020 are obviously fake, are they not? Who could play Baccarat for days at a time, months long trips, and WIN? Impossible, right? If so, here's your chance to collect a serious sum and make your point at the same time. Don't worry half a million is not going to break me.
In any case, yes it sounds extreme but this is a serious wager, as is the other one.
Take your pick, the wagers are open until the end of March.
You on the other hand, were forced to take a suspension for multiple reasons including your illegitimate offer and No Doubt the fact that you wouldn't put up or shut up. You have already failed to prove you can afford to pay any bet or offer, so there is zero reason we have to believe you will follow through with this. As I said, it's all just some Big Bet Bluff riddled with Big Red Flags.
Since you seem hell bent on making bets /challenges, YOU should prove that YOU have the funds to pay. If I make a bet, offer, or challenge, I wouldn't hesitate in proving that I have the money to pay off if I should lose. Hell, just prove you have 10% and I might actually take it seriously. Not with all this BS cashier's checks... blah blah blah. You have indicated that you have multiple millions of dollars in Bitcoin. It would be very simple to prove you have the funds to pay without losing any money and you could remain anonymous. 10% of 250000 is $25,000. I'd be willing match that and send Michael Shackelford(or someone with a good reputation) $25,000 in Bitcoin if you're willing to do the same, then we can discuss your proposal.
Quote: AxelWolfThat's absolutely not true, In that post I indicated knew it was going to get me suspended for posting it, and it was perfect timing since I knew I wasn't going to be on the forum much during that time anyways. I'm sure one of the mods even have a PM indicating prior that, I knew I was going to get suspended. Mike deleted that post unfortunately(I didn't expect that), no doubt, because you demanded it, since it was embarrassing to you. I'm asking Mike to Ask JB if that post can be recalled. Mike and OD can read it and see if there was any outrage. Mike should put back everything in that post that didn't pertain to the reason I got suspended for.Quote: MDawgAnd you grew outraged, came on here posting all sorts of nonsense the Wizard had to DELETE and got yourself suspended over that wager, didn't you? So...if five grand means that much to you why are you turning down the change for 100X that. My WIN statements from 2020 are obviously fake, are they not? Who could play Baccarat for days at a time, months long trips, and WIN? Impossible, right? If so, here's your chance to collect a serious sum and make your point at the same time. Don't worry half a million is not going to break me.
In any case, yes it sounds extreme but this is a serious wager, as is the other one.
Take your pick, the wagers are open until the end of March.
You on the other hand, were forced to take a suspension for multiple reasons including your illegitimate offer and No Doubt the fact that you wouldn't put up or shut up. You have already failed to prove you can afford to pay any bet or offer, so there is zero reason we have to believe you will follow through with this. As I said, it's all just some Big Bet Bluff riddled with Big Red Flags.
Since you seem hell bent on making bets /challenges, YOU should prove that YOU have the funds to pay. If I make a bet, offer, or challenge, I wouldn't hesitate in proving that I have the money to pay off if I should lose. Hell, just prove you have 10% and I might actually take it seriously. Not with all this BS cashier's checks... blah blah blah. You have indicated that you have multiple millions of dollars in Bitcoin. It would be very simple to prove you have the funds to pay without losing any money and you could remain anonymous. 10% of 250000 is $25,000. I'd be willing match that and send Michael Shackelford(or someone with a good reputation) $25,000 in Bitcoin if you're willing to do the same, then we can discuss your proposal.
My personal opinion here. You are really caught up here aren't you Axle? Since you have denounced and ridiculed the Dawg and referenced all this all the time, why do you persist in following it and responding? Just curious. Thanks for your time.
Quote: EvenBobNaw, he cheated. That's not beating
it, that's finding a way around it.
It's a gimmick that can be taken
away. Beating it legit, that's a
learned skill.
LOL TO THE MAX!
I beat it and got around something, won $1,000,000.
I beat it by learning a secret skill, and won $1,000,000.
My cash is better than yours? Yours is better than mine?
Again, LOL!
Quote: AxelWolf
Since you seem hell bent on making bets /challenges, YOU should prove that YOU have the funds to pay. If I make a bet, offer, or challenge, I wouldn't hesitate in proving that I have the money to pay off if I should lose. Hell, just prove you have 10% and I might actually take it seriously. Not with all this BS cashier's checks... blah blah blah. You have indicated that you have multiple millions of dollars in Bitcoin. It would be very simple to prove you have the funds to pay without losing any money and you could remain anonymous. 10% of 250000 is $25,000. I'd be willing match that and send Michael Shackelford(or someone with a good reputation) $25,000 in Bitcoin if you're willing to do the same, then we can discuss your proposal.
I am willing to send the entire $500,000 USD in bitcoin to the Wizard provided he accepts and understands that it is not a test, it is for this exact wager:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/35670-challenge-to-axelwolf-the-daddy-of-all-wagers/3/#post797552
provided you do the same. The Wizard will transfer the $1,000,000. in bitcoin to one of us at the conclusion of that wager. Again, this is not a test, this is the real thing and we will proceed with the wager.
I will be in Vegas very soon so let's proceed.
Quote: MDawgI am willing to send the entire $500,000 USD in bitcoin to the Wizard provided he accepts and understands that it is not a test, it is for this exact wager:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/35670-challenge-to-axelwolf-the-daddy-of-all-wagers/3/#post797552
provided you do the same. The Wizard will transfer the $1,000,000. in bitcoin to one of us at the conclusion of that wager. Again, this is not a test, this is the real thing and we will proceed with the wager.
I will be in Vegas very soon so let's proceed.
In my opinion the wager will never happen. I do personally believe MDawg. Nice try, but waste of your time.
Quote: Marcusclark66In my opinion the wager will never happen. I do personally believe MDawg. Nice try, but waste of your time.
I don't believe anything he says. Do you know Coachbelly by chance?
I Don't have 500k in bitcoin, even if I did, I would not be foolish enough to get my self in a situation where the bet being made could be a con, especially at an amount where someone else would be willing to put up the money for you and then split the profits. It would be like me asking you to wager an amount that you are sure I don't have, but it might be enough to entice someone else who does have it to make a deal with me. You are not even betting that the stock trades are yours, just that they are real stock trades, You made a point to make sure that's the bet(Highly suspicious, if you ask me). I don't care if the trades are really being made, if they are not yours, then I consider them fake.Quote: MDawgI am willing to send the entire $500,000 USD in bitcoin to the Wizard provided he accepts and understands that it is not a test, it is for this exact wager:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/35670-challenge-to-axelwolf-the-daddy-of-all-wagers/12/#post797552
provided you do the same. The Wizard will transfer the $1,000,000. in bitcoin to one of us at the conclusion of that wager. Again, this is not a test, this is the real thing and we will proceed with the wager.
I will be in Vegas very soon so let's proceed.
Quote: AxelWolfstock trades
You know, I am not going to engage with you further if you can't even read what is going on.
There are two wagers I proposed. The $500,000. one has nothing to do with stock trades.
Do you want to do this or not? If not, get lost. I've wasted enough time past two weeks assuming that you are for real.
I will not spend further time on someone apparently incapable of reading and following what is going on. This is the final proof that you like to talk talk talk without even reading.
I want to do the wager. I don't care what you say, be as insulting as you like, as long as you proceed. Borrow the bitcoin from somewhere, I don't care where you get it. Mine is ready.
Again, this is the $500,000. wager I posted yesterday. I posted the link to it above. You responded to it yesterday, why do you do things like that - comment and respond - without apparently even reading what was posted? No wonder you argue with so many people - you apparently don't even read what they post and then comment blindly.
Quote: MDawgAxelWolf:
Since $250,000. for some reason didn’t pique your interest?? I have another challenge for you, $500,000.
I have posted my WIN statements for the past few years now to back up my constant winning at the casinos. Let’s keep this simple.
I wager $500,000. that every one of the WIN statements I posted for 2020, linked here at WOV on January 30, 2021, is genuine:
Win Wynn/Encore 2020 $77,180.
Win Palms/Green Valley Ranch 2020 $5195.
Win Venetian 2020 $31,270.
Win Cosmopolitan 2020 $20,600.
Win Treasure Island 2020 $700.
Same basic terms as the other wager. Let me know if you wish to proceed and the very same day I will come up with a $500,000. cashier’s check. And again, I am willing to provide you an image of the cashier’s check the same day you request, so long as you provide the same to me, to show you that this is serious and not a waste of anyone’s time.
I will be in Vegas within a few weeks. We meet at the Wizard’s home. You will come with a cashier’s check for $500,000. as will I. I will make my cashier’s check payable to whomever you designate – you will make your cashier’s check payable to whomever I designate.
We will hand the checks to the Wizard to hold in our presence.
We will all three of us sign an NDA as to not disclosing any of the personal identifying or financial information that is revealed during the course of this encounter, under penalty of a heavy liquidated damages clause.
At the Wizard’s, I will login to my casino player accounts. I will provide government identification to verify that the accounts are mine. Upon logging in I will navigate to the 2020 win statements and show them to you to verify that each of the 2020 win statements is correct and as represented above. If you have some other additional means of verifying that the 2020 win statements are as stated, I am happy to accompany you to these five Vegas casinos to verify the same in person.
After you have verified that the 2020 WIN statements are as I have represented, I will take your cashier’s check, you will accompany me to your bank, and ensure that I am able to cash the check. If it turns out that any of WIN statements is not exactly as I have represented them, you win, you get my cashier’s check and I accompany you to my bank to ensure that it is paid. The winner gets both checks, his own, and the check of the loser.
Just to add to the wager, if you may find even one casino anywhere in the world where I played in 2020, other than the five represented above, I lose the entire $500,000. You have the day of the wager, the day we meet at the Wizard’s, to cash in on this aspect of the wager. If you want me to follow you all over town showing my ID at any casino you choose to see if they have any record of my play there, that’s fine with me so long as this aspect of the wager is completed that day.
I will meet you as early in the day as you choose so that we have plenty of time for all of this. After all, $500,000. is at stake. You wouldn’t want to lose it all in just one hour.
I’ve never paid much attention to comps so I’m curious:Quote: MDawg
And 30% of theo is what they give, up to 40% of theo at some casinos.
1) Would you say 35% is pretty consistent on the strip at a $25 to $100 betting level?
2) What number do casinos use for the theo in Blackjack?
3) For craps, do any casinos include free odds bets for comps ?
Quote: Ace2I’ve never paid much attention to comps so I’m curious:
1) Would you say 35% is pretty consistent on the strip at a $25 to $100 betting level?
2) What number do casinos use for the theo in Blackjack?
3) For craps, do any casinos include free odds bets for comps ?
If you count room offers you might get 35% for BJ at some properties. The very basic general rule for BJ is the house wins one average bet per hour. So if you played 4 hours at $100 average the house should win around $400. So $100 in comps is reasonable to expect. The bigger your average bet the more likely you are to get closer to 35%. Obviously different promotions and different casinos handle it differently.
I don't play Pai Gow poker but I understand that it is possible to play it long periods of time without losing much, or at least that is what Pai Gow players tell me. (Hard to win much, hard to lose much.) I assume that for Pai Gow the theo loss is low compared to say double zero roulette. Also, I believe roulette moves along much faster than Pai Gow (no pushes) so that the casino must give less "credit" per hour of Pai Gow play than many other table games.
I doubt that they get into watching exactly what type of bets the guy is making in deciding what his theo is - I assume they have a stock theo for each game, and don't look at whether the guy is say, playing all exotics at the craps table or just pass line with max odds, any more than they consider if the guy is always betting only bank/player or nothing but ties or side bets, at Baccarat. I am pretty sure they just look at average bet across the board.
As far as what they are willing to comp, RFB are standard comp'ed items, with much beyond that being discretionary - such as spa services. I could probably list every possible service or item the casino is able to comp in a hierarchical order, from easiest to hardest to get comp'ed. I've talked to hosts about this sort of thing a lot. For example, I understand that internet charges are easier to comp off than resort fees. I've really picked their brains over the years to try to figure out the system. Among the hardest items to get back would be spa retail and tips, but on some of my past trips they have taken care of even those.
On this last trip I noticed something odd at one of the resorts - the one where we stayed over a month - which was that none of the tips I left at the restaurants such as when picking up take out food were picked up, but the automatic 18% or whatever it was gratuity included in room service all disappeared - the room service bills disappeared completely, meaning that the casino was picking up our room service tips. That is not the norm.
Quote: SOOPOOThe only experience I have with a really big gambler is a surgeon colleague who apparently averaged $400 a bet at BJ around 6-8 hours a day. This is 25 years ago. He was able to get a comped suite for himself and two comped rooms for 4 nurses that he would reward. The nurses would be picked up in the airport by limo, and have access to it during their trip. Plus meals at the property. I only tried to imagine how much he would lose on an average trip.
If he is bringing four nurses along I think the only thing he is going to lose is sleep.
Quote: cmlotitoIf he is bringing four nurses along I think the only thing he is going to lose is sleep.
Surprisingly, it wasn’t that kind of trip! It’s a while ago, but it really was a ‘reward’ for being on his team in the OR. The nurses would have dinner with him maybe once and be on their own the rest of the time.
I'd no more step into a casino to play than place another stock trade if I kept losing at it.
Quote: MDawgWhy do you assume the surgeon lost? We'll be there shortly and I don't plan to lose. I wouldn't even go if I assumed I would lose. Of course there is always the chance that I could lose, but it's not likely based on my prior record.
I'd no more step into a casino to play than place another stock trade if I kept losing at it.
Help!
My eyes are rolling in my head!
Quote: darkozHelp!
My eyes are rolling in my head!
Do your eyes roll in your head when you read about Ned Stark's exploits? Or Tom Sawyer's?
Quote: DRichThe very basic general rule for BJ is the house wins one average bet per hour.
So if you play 50 hands per hour that’s a theo of 2%. If you get 35% of that comped it’s a 0.7% benefit. Playing basic strategy at the right tables you can easily get the edge below 0.5%, making it positive EV after comps. Am I understanding this ?
Quote: Ace2So if you play 50 hands per hour that’s a theo of 2%. If you get 35% of that comped it’s a 0.7% benefit. Playing basic strategy at the right tables you can easily get the edge below 0.5%, making it positive EV after comps. Am I understanding this ?
I would agree with that if you get 35% in comps. I would not expect to get 35% most of the time. That is definitely on the high side. Hotel rooms seem to make up the majority of that so a $100 room comp is great but it doesn't scale well as you can only get one per night unless you are a high roller.
You also have to factor in how the Pitboss is rating you. If he classifies you as a skilled gambler the theo hold is reduced for you. Also, table speed factors into the calculation of hold. If you play on a table by yourself you will get more hands per hour and comps will be higher. On the pit tracking systems that I have worked on the pit boss enters the speed of the game which is used in the calculation.
Basically the Pitboss enters the following criteria that determines your comps.
Start Time
Game Played
Average Bet
Skill Level
Game Speed
End Time
With Baccarat they do keep track (somewhat) of whether a given player plays all or most of the hands per shoe before they give up the full time. Some casinos go by actual time others just give a flat hour per Bacc. shoe.
Did you take pictures of everything and then post them up on a forum and claim they were your own?Quote: SOOPOOThe only experience I have with a really big gambler is a surgeon colleague who apparently averaged $400 a bet at BJ around 6-8 hours a day. This is 25 years ago. He was able to get a comped suite for himself and two comped rooms for 4 nurses that he would reward. The nurses would be picked up in the airport by limo, and have access to it during their trip. Plus meals at the property. I only tried to imagine how much he would lose on an average trip.
Quote: MDawgThis is what I've put on our iPhones. Seems like a good idea, especially for me, at the tables.
Does that include hateful stares and stares of jealousy? You understand what I'm saying right?
My wife saw it and said, let me get you a nice leather one with a handle to wrap around your wrist. I said - no! this one seems lucky, it has that green Color of Money. I will maintain and put the old envelope INTO this bag though. I'm not superstitious. 😛
Looks like a purse to me. Makes sense.Quote: MDawgThis is to put all the winner's money and chips into. In prior trips I have used an increasingly ratty (but very lucky) tattered envelope.
My wife saw it and said, let me get you a nice leather one with a handle to wrap around your wrist. I said - no! this one seems lucky, it has that green Color of Money. I will maintain and put the old envelope INTO this bag though. I'm not superstitious. 😛
I have this thing about changing my jackets, shirts, and watches (to either change my luck, or keep my luck going), while on these trips. No, I'm not superstitious. 😇
I've seen or heard about some high rollers who won't bathe or change clothes because they think it affects their luck adversely. I am NOT one of those. I actually can't see how you could concentrate on anything while dirty and smelly.
You have bought in to all the vitamin supliment con? Unless you have lots medical issues... those are just a wast of money. It's a big fat con. I knew this at the age of 13.Quote: MDawgNow I gotta make sure I have at least sixty day supplies of all Vitamins and Supplements on hand for travel. This could be a long one!
Perfect framing. Well done MDawg, you have a bite.Quote: RogerKintThat jacket looks more expensive than all my clothes put together 👍
If MDawg's point was anything to do with his supplements, don't you think he would have stepped right a little and zoomed in more?
Have vitamins, will travel.
Does anyone give a flying burrito about this nonsense?
Quote: billryanHave delusions, will post.
Does anyone give a flying burrito about this nonsense?
It's like watching NASCAR were all just waiting for the crash.
is one of those for erectile disfunction?
. I never felt comfortable asking him many details. I do remember the $400 average. I assume he lost because most gamblers lose. I of course could be wrong in his case.Quote: MDawgWhy do you assume the surgeon lost? We'll be there shortly and I don't plan to lose. I wouldn't even go if I assumed I would lose. Of course there is always the chance that I could lose, but it's not likely based on my prior record.
I'd no more step into a casino to play than place another stock trade if I kept losing at it.
Quote: rainmanMDawg I zoomed in on your pill bottles still I can't quite tell
is one of those for erectile disfunction?
I'm certain one bottle said Leronlimab
Quote: SOOPOO. I assume he lost because most gamblers lose.
Gambling is for suckers. Only
make bets when you know you
can't lose.