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March 29th, 2020 at 12:19:32 PM permalink
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I knew you could relate Soopoo! Standing shoulder to shoulder!


Crazy, but I just realized how many tabascos I have:


NINE! Is that a positive omen for future play, or what?


Come to think of it, is it tabascos or tabascoes? Dan Quayle, where are you?
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/buzzfeednews/dan-quayle-potato-spelling



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March 29th, 2020 at 1:49:56 PM permalink
Based on this, just released today, many Vegas casinos are looking to reopen as soon as April 17th:
https://travelzork.com/vegas-news-march-29-2020/
Included in this article are various notes about extensions on player card rewards.

But, as I mentioned here
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/143/#post762628
if the reopening includes mandatory face masks, no eating or drinking at tables, constant player temperature checks and social distancing, does not sound edifying or worth bothering with.

When I left the house yesterday on an errand, I thought to myself while driving that I'd rather die than wear a face mask everywhere. Of course I didn't mean it, entirely, but we Americans will put up with a lot before doing something that seems socially awkward. Chinese friends of mine I have communicated with lately seem incredulous that Americans are not all wearing face masks everywhere.
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March 29th, 2020 at 2:00:56 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Based on this, many Vegas casinos are looking to reopen as soon as April 17th
https://travelzork.com/vegas-news-march-29-2020/
Included in this article are various notes about extensions on player card rewards.



I have a friend, lives in Vegas, an Infectious Disease expert. He is guessing mid May. But even he admits it is just a guess. This is of course unprecedented.

Once legal to open, it of course will not be 100% safe. I can't imagine being among the first to go back into a just opened casino. I bet there are thousands who can't imagine NOT being among the first.
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March 29th, 2020 at 2:04:19 PM permalink
Yes, I mean let's think about what sorts of activities people are now or would be willing in the immediate future to hazard a risk to engage in.

BUY FOOD AT THE SUPERMARKET necessitating standing close to the cashier. Check! Need that to survive, and a lot of items are not available for delivery and even pick up still requires close proximity to another human.
GO TO A LUXURY STORE TO BUY A LUXURY ITEM AND STAND BY SOME CLERK. Ehhh? I don't think so.
GO TO A CASINO TO GAMBLE AND SIT BY SOME DEALER AND PIT BOSS. ? I agree with you there Soopoo as far as the average person - would not want to deal with it, yet. But as I mentioned, and you allude, there are probably some gambling degenerates who can't wait to get back in there.

Tell me you gambled it!
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March 29th, 2020 at 2:11:17 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Yes, I mean let's think about what sorts of activities people are now or would be willing in the immediate future to hazard a risk to engage in.

BUY FOOD AT THE SUPERMARKET necessitating standing close to the cashier. Check! Need that to survive.
GO TO A LUXURY STORE TO BUY A LUXURY ITEM AND STAND BY SOME CLERK. Ehhh? I don't think so.
GO TO A CASINO TO GAMBLE AND SIT BY SOME DEALER AND PIT BOSS. ? I agree with you there Soopoo as far as the average person. But as I mentioned, and you allude, there are probably some gambling degenerates who can't wait to get back in there.



You can't even stand near someone at the supermarket now! When you are ready to checkout the have you in an aisle 6 feet from the others, and then they direct you to a checkout clerk. You put your groceries on the belt and the checkout girl rings it up. You pay by credit card and then go to your car. A kid brings out the groceries to your car. So as much as is possible they are isolating you from the employees, and the employees from you.
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March 29th, 2020 at 2:12:40 PM permalink
Hope I’m completely wrong...my gut tells me no way they open Vegas up by April 17.

May 1 would be the earliest....but this is predicated on getting this under control. Right now I see nothing to indicate “control”. I expect in 2 weeks we will know where we stand with new cases.

As it is....a lot will change in the casino environment, imo. Wipe downs like mad, still social distance and lastly....sh*tcan smoking in the confines. The latter being hope they do it.
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March 29th, 2020 at 2:21:11 PM permalink
That would be great! if they ban smoking.

But, it'd be ironic (there's that word again) if they reinstate smoking just as soon as it becomes safe enough for the average person to even want to hazard entering a casino.
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March 29th, 2020 at 2:25:02 PM permalink
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That would be great! if they ban smoking.

But, it'd be ironic (there's that word again) if they reinstate smoking just as soon as it becomes safe enough for the average person to even want to hazard entering a casino.



Well, there is something MDawg and I can agree 100% on
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March 29th, 2020 at 2:46:10 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Well, there is something MDawg and I can agree 100% on


It's an antiquated allowance predicated on nothing but perceived economics....everything else concerning the allowance of it, including health, welfare of public AND employees is a secondary concern.

New reality...it's gotta go.

As this particularly nasty virus is hitting the lungs and smokers are inhaling smoke and expelling (blowing) it into others breathable air....no stinkin (expletive deleted) way can we move forward and keep allowing it.
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March 29th, 2020 at 3:05:19 PM permalink
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Nickel: I wish there were two of me! Which anyway a duplicate of me is what Axel has proposed...get this, he wants me to bankroll him effectively with my money and let him sit next to me and then at the end of the session hand me back what's left minus the win or loss.

The way he wrote it up, is that as long as I guarantee to cover his losses, he will sit and play alongside me and mirror my bets. Is that what he wants me to do? because if so, Could you repeat it? 'Cause I can't believe my [expletive censored] ears.


Mendoza I got your email, I will write to you.

As far as DarkOz's claims there is an expose on this posted Friday and in it I am advised to no longer respond to him. Done! Henceforth he is SHROUDED like Hart in Paper Chase.
DarkOz is an old guy, he probably watched Paper Chase when he was a kid. I watched reruns of it in law school not so very long ago, and I remember it like it was yesterday. Anyway, DarkOz's content is like that '80s movie, "Desperately Trying to be Relevant." MDawg is already relevant, to the tune of 144 pages and counting. DarkOz's thread on the other hand was resigned to the NoseBleed section, and that, is at the heart of what all his silly remarks are about, Mendoza. You got it right! he's just sore over that he was ridiculed and his thread given the boot. Amazing how someone whose second language is English still gets right to the core of matters so succinctly, much better than DarkOz. DarkOz did you find a ghost writer yet? you definitely need one. Goodbye, and good luck! with those mixed metaphors and hackneyed cliches, and I have better things to do than engage with a guy who is always hiding from the law.

DON'T MISS REPRESENT/SPIN WHAT I SAID. AT NO TIME DID I MENTION ASK OR SUGGEST YOU BANKROLLING ME. Not everyone reads both forums so they can get the full context the situation.

Let's take a look at something you said.
Quote:

"Yes if these other players would follow me they would win - consistently - but is there some formula I could write up in a book to teach someone to do what I do?

But no, it's not just blind luck. Blind luck would not have lasted all these years."

that's just one of many things that you have said indicating you have some special kind of baccarat ability.

And this is exactly what I said
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How much he actually won or lost in severely immaterial. One certainly could have won the amount he's talking about given the number of trips he's made. I don't even think it's that outrageous. But, he would have us believe he has a way to beat baccarat. And he will continue to do so, as if there's some type of skill that he possesses. If I recall correctly, in a previous post one of his claims are that if somebody followed him around mimicking his bets they too would be winners(Can somebody can find that particular post I'm just too lazy). Would he be willing to back that claim up? If he's guaranteeing you would win following his lead... how about a situation where he pays any and all losses at the end, or he gets half of all that person's wins at the end? I mean, if you're always winning you should be more than willing to take that deal, it sounds like free money for everyone except the casino. Furthermore, that person would be rooting for him and praying for him to succeed. They would be there as an allie. They would be more than happy to report how great the Dawg is. Sign me up for that!! I'll give him a trophy myself if he wins at least $3,500, and call him the GOD of Baccarat. The more I think about it, that would resolve a lot of problems, no need for verifiers in separate locations or any of that b******* no complicated rules or limitations, it would be very simple. perhaps one other person to hold earnest money to make sure he gets paid his half of any winnings or pays all the losses with accurate reporting. I'll bring 50 or a hundred thousand or whatever he suggests. I'll even give half my winnings to to Dan and Mike to give out to the Forum numbers somehow or something like that, whatever the case, I'll find a way to give out half the winnings to the form numbers.

EVERYONE WINS AND THE DAWG IS OUR HERO.
[Insert Oprah and you get a car video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=pviYWzu0dzk&feature=emb_title

Win or lose, you would still be my hero if you take this on.



It's only absurd/ ridiculous if you truly don't believe in and have confidence in your own abilities to always win at baccarat like you would have us believe you can. I asked you why you're not betting more since you're always winning and you would have us believe it will continue due to your special baccarat abilities.
And this is what you said.

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Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
Actually a casino host said that to me years ago, he said why don't you just increase your lines to infinity, you always do well.

But however I do, that's MY affair.



that's the only way you could respond since there's no logical/good explanation of why you wouldn't back more given your special baccarat abilities.

[Edit by Mod(OD) I've tried to fix up mangled quote formatting]
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March 29th, 2020 at 3:22:02 PM permalink
That's exactly what you proposed I am not misrepresenting.

I said that Axel wants me to "bankroll him effectively with my money" - which that is EXACTLY what you propose. You propose that you play, and then if you lose I reimburse you. That is effectively bankrolling you!

No serious gambler would propose such a thing! Drop it man, I assumed you were joking but that you keep repeating it tells me that you were serious? Give me a break.

Also, while I think it is okay to reference something discussed in another forum, I think flat out copy pasting it here as you just did above might not be appropriate.
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March 29th, 2020 at 3:25:50 PM permalink
I would really like to know what is this Romper Room or the Captain Kangaroo hour?
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March 29th, 2020 at 3:26:10 PM permalink
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It's an antiquated allowance predicated on nothing but perceived economics....everything else concerning the allowance of it, including health, welfare of public AND employees is a secondary concern.

New reality...it's gotta go.

As this particularly nasty virus is hitting the lungs and smokers are inhaling smoke and expelling (blowing) it into others breathable air....no stinkin (expletive deleted) way can we move forward and keep allowing it.

Is this a thread about smoking? You gotta go in my opinion, nobody is talking about it, it's not a part of the conversation, just something you keep trying to insert, it's called hijacking. I find it irritating. I had all kinds of sarcasm for you, but had to not post it.
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March 29th, 2020 at 3:39:45 PM permalink
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Is this a thread about smoking? You gotta go in my opinion, nobody is talking about it, it's not a part of the conversation, just something you keep trying to insert, it's called hijacking. I find it irritating. I had all kinds of sarcasm for you, but had to not post it.


You can ignore the post. I get it. You’re a smoker. You’re offended that there’s a suggestion to ban something you want to do unfettered in the casino.

My thinking is that reality is coming to an end. Seems MDawg and Dark are in complete agreement with me and we all commented.

This thread has gone in so many different directions....from gambling to ketchup to Tabasco...to smoking....pick your hijack. When MDawg gets back to gambling, I’m sure it will get back to his reports. Until then....
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March 29th, 2020 at 3:56:14 PM permalink
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You can ignore the post. I get it. You’re a smoker. You’re offended that there’s a suggestion to ban something you want to do unfettered in the casino.

My thinking is that reality is coming to an end. Seems MDawg and Dark are in complete agreement with me and we all commented.

This thread has gone in so many different directions....from gambling to ketchup to Tabasco...to smoking....pick your hijack. When MDawg gets back to gambling, I’m sure it will get back to his reports. Until then....



https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/34514-the-thread-to-irritate-about-not-smoking-in-casinos/#post762795

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March 29th, 2020 at 3:56:23 PM permalink
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AT NO TIME DID I MENTION ASK OR SUGGEST YOU BANKROLLING ME.



What's the player's edge on this offer?

Player must play baccarat under standard rules,
with the following exceptions:

All winning bets are paid half of the amount bet

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March 29th, 2020 at 5:47:03 PM permalink
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Also, while I think it is okay to reference something discussed in another forum, I think flat out copy pasting it here as you just did above might not be appropriate.



Is that because there are some people at that forum dumb enough to believe you have special baccarat abilities ?
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March 29th, 2020 at 5:56:39 PM permalink
For the most part, everyone at every forum thinks that he has it all figured out and that all the rest are dumb because they won't believe him or listen to him.

Take a look at every thread here, there, everywhere, that's pretty much what is going on, with every topic.
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March 29th, 2020 at 6:08:17 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

For the most part, everyone at every forum thinks that he has it all figured out and that all the rest are dumb because they won't believe him or listen to him.

Take a look at every thread here, there, everywhere, that's pretty much what is going on, with every topic.



Interesting pronouns hmmm
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March 29th, 2020 at 6:12:16 PM permalink
In formal English everyone is considered singular.
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March 29th, 2020 at 7:04:39 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

In formal English everyone is considered singular.



As in this sentence:

"He takes the ketchup bottles. He cannot afford his own"
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March 29th, 2020 at 7:52:19 PM permalink
Apparently this guy always wins playing baccarat. He gets all the fancy comps at places like cosmopolitan, Bellagio, he seems to move around hitting and running.

https://youtu.be/SJbVOQM0f7g

Seems legit 🤣
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March 29th, 2020 at 8:53:58 PM permalink
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Apparently this guy always wins playing baccarat. He gets all the fancy comps at places like cosmopolitan, Bellagio, he seems to move around hitting and running.

/SJbVOQM0f7g

Seems legit 🤣



Possibly something to do with the way one maintains their eyebrows? Such as plucking them like a female.?
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March 29th, 2020 at 10:18:45 PM permalink
Oh fudge, here we go again. Off to the next site to find out the truth.
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March 29th, 2020 at 10:20:26 PM permalink
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Nickel: I wish there were two of me! Which anyway a duplicate of me is what Axel has proposed...get this, he wants me to bankroll him effectively with my money and let him sit next to me and then at the end of the session hand me back what's left minus the win or loss.

The way he wrote it up, is that as long as I guarantee to cover his losses, he will sit and play alongside me and mirror my bets. Is that what he wants me to do? because if so, Could you repeat it? 'Cause I can't believe my [expletive censored] ears.


Mendoza I got your email, I will write to you.

As far as DarkOz there is an expose on him posted Friday and in it I am advised to no longer respond to him. Done! Henceforth he is SHROUDED like Hart in Paper Chase.
DarkOz is an old guy, he probably watched Paper Chase when he was a kid. I watched reruns of it in law school not so very long ago, and I remember it like it was yesterday. Anyway, DarkOz is like that '80s movie, "Desperately Trying to be Relevant." MDawg is already relevant, to the tune of 144 pages and counting. DarkOz's thread on the other hand was resigned to the NoseBleed section, and that, is at the heart of what all his silly remarks are about, Mendoza. You got it right! he's just sore over that he was ridiculed and his thread given the boot. Amazing how someone whose second language is English still gets right to the core of matters so succinctly, much better than DarkOz. DarkOz did you find a ghost writer yet? you definitely need one. Goodbye, and good luck! with those mixed metaphors and hackneyed cliches, and I have better things to do than engage with a guy who is always hiding from the law.



Pending.



Multiple insults, trolling (series of posts including this one). Martingale suspension to 4 months. The forum will not be hosting this feud, now or when you return.
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March 29th, 2020 at 10:23:02 PM permalink
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Nickel: I wish there were two of me! Which anyway a duplicate of me is what Axel has proposed...get this, he wants me to bankroll him effectively with my money and let him sit next to me and then at the end of the session hand me back what's left minus the win or loss.

The way he wrote it up, is that as long as I guarantee to cover his losses, he will sit and play alongside me and mirror my bets. Is that what he wants me to do? because if so, Could you repeat it? 'Cause I can't believe my [expletive censored] ears.


Mendoza I got your email, I will write to you.

As far as DarkOz there is an expose on him posted Friday and in it I am advised to no longer respond to him. Done! Henceforth he is SHROUDED like Hart in Paper Chase.
DarkOz is an old guy, he probably watched Paper Chase when he was a kid. Anyway, DarkOz is like that '80s movie, "Desperately Trying to be Relevant." MDawg is already relevant, to the tune of 144 pages and counting. DarkOz's thread on the other hand was resigned to the NoseBleed section, and that, is at the heart of what all his silly remarks are about, Mendoza. You got it right! he's just sore over that he was ridiculed and his thread given the boot. Amazing how someone whose second language is English still gets right to the core of matters so succinctly, much better than DarkOz. DarkOz did you find a ghost writer yet? you definitely need one. Goodbye, and good luck! and I have better things to do than engage with a guy who is always hiding from the law.



The ketchup man realizes he got beat and is quitting

Here is the real MDawg challenge:

Both MDawg and challenger show up with 50 ounces of ketchup

Both will use their supply of ketchup on all hotdogs, hamburgers, fries, rice, beans, macaroni and eggs as possible

Both will try to get as much free ketchup as possible.

MDawg may have an advantage as he knows the secret that ketchup packets are handed out for free at both McDonald's and Burger King

At the end of the two week period whoever has more than 50 ounces of ketchup and the higher amount is the winner.

Since MDawg isn't actually certain he can do that, he pledges to pay nothing to the winner



Multiple insults, trolling. ( series of posts including this one) Martingale suspension to 7 days. The forum will not be hosting this feud, now or when you return.
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March 29th, 2020 at 10:34:48 PM permalink
The unequal justice is breathtaking. The instigator gets a week.
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March 30th, 2020 at 12:15:48 AM permalink
See the big Dawg back by August. Hopefully everything is up and running at full steam by then.
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March 30th, 2020 at 2:23:29 AM permalink
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The unequal justice is breathtaking. The instigator gets a week.




It’s embarrassing I agree. The guy is goaded non-stop by a group who appear to have been given carte blanche. It’s almost like this was the intended outcome.
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March 30th, 2020 at 7:11:02 AM permalink
i give the mdawg my email he right to me and tell me what happen

but i no listen to him I look read I read myself everything here

and I see everybody do same here everybody they talk this that say this guy not know that guy not know so what is problem. Before the beachbumbabs she stop me from say anything bad about the hombre but I learn is okay to say what the man say is bad. so then why the mdawg in trouble just he talk about the things the guy say or he talk about the thing the darkoz do not say bad about the man

any way the mdawg he good man and what happen here is very not fair

this only place everybody talk about the real gamble now is not thing left
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March 30th, 2020 at 7:23:20 AM permalink
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It’s embarrassing I agree. The guy is goaded non-stop by a group who appear to have been given carte blanche. It’s almost like this was the intended outcome.



Personally, I enjoyed my banter with MDawg. But if I was the owner of this site I would have banned him quite a while ago. Allowing someone to continually make outlandish claims not based in reality is certainly within MDawg's free speech rights. But not wanting to be the host of such pure BS is within the rights of the owners. And as the Wizard has said many times, if you don't like it don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Aussie, I hope you stay.
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March 30th, 2020 at 8:43:29 AM permalink
Quote: Aussie

It’s embarrassing I agree. The guy is goaded non-stop by a group who appear to have been given carte blanche. It’s almost like this was the intended outcome.



That's exactly it, always the same group of bullies.
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March 30th, 2020 at 8:51:55 AM permalink
We need the volatility, simply an egg during trying times isn't enough.
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March 30th, 2020 at 9:00:54 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Personally, I enjoyed my banter with MDawg. But if I was the owner of this site I would have banned him quite a while ago. Allowing someone to continually make outlandish claims not based in reality is certainly within MDawg's free speech rights. But not wanting to be the host of such pure BS is within the rights of the owners. And as the Wizard has said many times, if you don't like it don't let the door hit you on the way out.



Allowing a group of bullies to goad those they don't like is wrong. Many, including you, have enjoyed his posts. But to say "rights of the owners"? What do the real owners say? I understand, hearsay of course, that volume of visitors fluctuates based on the presence of Mdawg here. What do the real owners say?

A question arose the other day about the martingale suspension operation. Someone noted Mdawg never was given a three day suspension. So the current sentence given is part of a progression flawed from the start. We all know certain posters in the past received favorable suspensions not in line with these draconian measures.
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March 30th, 2020 at 9:49:18 AM permalink
He’ll go back to gamblingforums.com during his 4 month hiatus.

Hopefully he’s back on the tables by August.

He could be a long term winner. Doubtful...but the possibility exists even on a negative expectation game like baccarat. Can’t prove it. Can’t disprove it.

If his intention was to create a vlog (plog) here of some kind to document “the adventures of MDawg”....he was probably better off posting but not responding. A diary of sorts doesn’t answer you back. You post your adventures. That’s it. His troubles involved trying to argue it and not liking the responses on a forum that is kind of dedicated to mathematical veracity.

Just let it go and document the adventure. I don’t think this was a guy posting his adventure for adventure sake. Seems it was more about getting affirmation or evolved into that.
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March 30th, 2020 at 10:15:23 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Allowing a group of bullies to goad those they don't like is wrong. Many, including you, have enjoyed his posts. But to say "rights of the owners"? What do the real owners say? I understand, hearsay of course, that volume of visitors fluctuates based on the presence of Mdawg here. What do the real owners say?

A question arose the other day about the martingale suspension operation. Someone noted Mdawg never was given a three day suspension. So the current sentence given is part of a progression flawed from the start. We all know certain posters in the past received favorable suspensions not in line with these draconian measures.



I don't feel like I was bullying MDawg. Pointing out the absurdity of certain claims to me is not bullying.
"The real owners" have chosen to trust the judgment of their moderators, as they clearly do not want to monitor the minutia here. If the owners were unhappy with a moderator, these VOLUNTEERS would be gone.
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March 30th, 2020 at 1:43:47 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Personally, I enjoyed my banter with MDawg. But if I was the owner of this site I would have banned him quite a while ago. Allowing someone to continually make outlandish claims not based in reality is certainly within MDawg's free speech rights. But not wanting to be the host of such pure BS is within the rights of the owners. And as the Wizard has said many times, if you don't like it don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Aussie, I hope you stay.



The point you make is a deflection.

The owners of Internet forums can do whatever they like, ban whoever they like for whatever reason they like. Freedom of speech does not apply. There is no need for a set of rules other than as a guide to acceptable behaviour. So if he had have been banned from the start then that’s totally fine.

The problem arises when you choose to allegedly follow the rules rigidly but then selectively enforce them. And no one can honestly deny that is what happens. I mean, how did PokerGrinder get away with a 14 day suspension for the disgraceful, personal abuse that he hurled? His post looked eerily similar to another recent post that resulted in the poster being nuked.

Allowing other posters to clearly break the rules by goading MDawg non-stop until he slips up and breaks a rule himself is a disgrace. Pretending that you are just enforcing the rules is laughable. There is a line between banter and bullying. I don’t believe you have crossed it but several have. That’s obvious to any impartial observer.

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March 30th, 2020 at 1:53:53 PM permalink
Quote: Aussie

The point you make is a deflection.

The owners of Internet forums can do whatever they like, ban whoever they like for whatever reason they like. Freedom of speech does not apply. There is no need for a set of rules other than as a guide to acceptable behaviour. So if he had have been banned from the start then that’s totally fine.

The problem arises when you choose to allegedly follow the rules rigidly but then selectively enforce them. And no one can honestly deny that is what happens. I mean, how did PokerGrinder get away with a 14 day suspension for the disgraceful, personal abuse that he hurled? His post looked eerily similar to another recent post that resulted in the poster being nuked.

Allowing other posters to clearly break the rules by goading MDawg non-stop until he slips up and breaks a rule himself is a disgrace. Pretending that you are just enforcing the rules is laughable. There is a line between banter and bullying. I don’t believe you have crossed it but several have. That’s obvious to any impartial observer.

No, I won’t be going. I don’t post often but I enjoy reading reading about gambling and other people’s experiences.



There are plenty of other boards catering to anyone who continually posts false, misleading , absurd nonsense. People with systems they claim can beat games where it’s not possible , can post their stories there. People like you are free to let him know you’re a believer and cheer him on, reply all you want and inform him how impressed you are.

Maybe a site where mathematics and informed gambling are stressed , Is not the best place for that trash.

And besides, the game of baccarat has been around for about 250 years. There’s probably thousands of very smart people who’ve tried to beat it and failed. Casinos deal it with very high limits and almost no heat at all because they are confident it cannot be beaten. But the mdawg has figured it out. So why even share that much info ? Just wipe out chip racks one casino at a time and keep it quiet.
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March 30th, 2020 at 2:04:14 PM permalink
miguel I ask the mdawg favor he going help me

he much bigger man then you

now he gone you talk a lot trash but he here you afraid talk like that

?and now I say you should be suspend for insult to mdawg. Will any the one in charge come now to do?
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March 30th, 2020 at 2:08:59 PM permalink
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now he gone you talk a lot trash but he here you afraid talk like that



I been saying the same thing for months amigo
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March 30th, 2020 at 2:11:58 PM permalink
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There are plenty of other boards catering to anyone who continually posts false, misleading , absurd nonsense. People with systems they claim can beat games where it’s not possible , can post their stories there. People like you are free to let him know you’re a believer and cheer him on, reply all you want and inform him how impressed you are.

Maybe a site where mathematics and informed gambling are stressed , Is not the best place for that trash.

And besides, the game of baccarat has been around for about 250 years. There’s probably thousands of very smart people who’ve tried to beat it and failed. Casinos deal it with very high limits and almost no heat at all because they are confident it cannot be beaten. But the mdawg has figured it out. So why even share that much info ? Just wipe out chip racks one casino at a time and keep it quiet.






I suggest you attempt to read my post properly. Your deflections are embarrassing. Nowhere did I say I believe his stories. Nowhere did I say that his posts were suited to a mathematical based forum. My point is about the disgusting trolling that he receives which one can only conclude is sanctioned by the moderators. If he wasn’t/isn’t wanted then boot him from the start. Don’t pretend that you are following the rules by waiting for him to react to the bullying.
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March 30th, 2020 at 2:36:10 PM permalink
Quote: Aussie

I suggest you attempt to read my post properly. Your deflections are embarrassing. Nowhere did I say I believe his stories. Nowhere did I say that his posts were suited to a mathematical based forum. My point is about the disgusting trolling that he receives which one can only conclude is sanctioned by the moderators. If he wasn’t/isn’t wanted then boot him from the start. Don’t pretend that you are following the rules by waiting for him to react to the bullying.



I won't even argue your points. My point is simple. On a forum devoted to gambling, and the math behind it, and the techniques that can be used to decrease or in some cases overcome the house edge, the posts by MDawg were antithetical to the purpose of this forum. I believe he was given ample opportunity to respond in meaningful ways, but when he continually would imply he 'could tell when a shoe was hot', or how another gambler was stupid for 'betting against a streak', those kind of comments are not what this forum is about.
Mike has said he always has what he calls the 'nuclear option', which can be used if an exact written rule has not been broken, but it is just obvious that a poster is a negative for the forum.

Have some other posters been rude or mean to MDawg? Sure, you are right. You talk about 'the disgusting trolling that he receives'. His entire plethora of posts is one giant troll. If he comes back, I'll interact with his posts. But I'll never be fooled.

Frankly, I'm surprised you care this much.
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March 30th, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM permalink
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I won't even argue your points. My point is simple. On a forum devoted to gambling, and the math behind it, and the techniques that can be used to decrease or in some cases overcome the house edge, the posts by MDawg were antithetical to the purpose of this forum. I believe he was given ample opportunity to respond in meaningful ways, but when he continually would imply he 'could tell when a shoe was hot', or how another gambler was stupid for 'betting against a streak', those kind of comments are not what this forum is about.
Mike has said he always has what he calls the 'nuclear option', which can be used if an exact written rule has not been broken, but it is just obvious that a poster is a negative for the forum.

Have some other posters been rude or mean to MDawg? Sure, you are right. You talk about 'the disgusting trolling that he receives'. His entire plethora of posts is one giant troll. If he comes back, I'll interact with his posts. But I'll never be fooled.

Frankly, I'm surprised you care this much.





Exactly right! So ban him right from the start instead of playing silly games where you pretend to be fair but in reality you are allowing the little clique to goad him into breaking the rules.

I care so much because it typifies what has happened to this forum. Much of the content is still fantastic, especially since the non-stop political posts were removed from the equation. But the way it has become a club for those “in” people is a negative.
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March 30th, 2020 at 3:28:02 PM permalink
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Exactly right! So ban him right from the start instead of playing silly games where you pretend to be fair but in reality you are allowing the little clique to goad him into breaking the rules.

I care so much because it typifies what has happened to this forum. Much of the content is still fantastic, especially since the non-stop political posts were removed from the equation. But the way it has become a club for those “in” people is a negative.



Thanks for your thoughtful response. I agree with you on the timing of the ban. I would have, by pm, given MDawg a warning, pretty deep into the silly claims, to cease or leave. Most likely he would not cease, and then I'd have nuked him. In general, the character that is MDawg has been generally acceptable on the politeness scale. He has had a few crossing of the lines, but not to an extreme amount.

Not sure if you paid attention to the saga that was Nathan, but I would have banned her a few thousand posts and a few dozen trolling threads sooner than the moderators did.

I am not an AP, so I may not qualify as an 'in' person. But I'm close. I'd like to think of me being included in the 'in' group because my posts are thoughtful, honest, and add to the flow on the forum. I think anyone who tries to be reasonable here gets to be in the 'in' group, too. You included!
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March 30th, 2020 at 3:35:13 PM permalink
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I would have, by pm, given MDawg a warning, pretty deep into the silly claims, to cease or leave. Most likely he would not cease, and then I'd have nuked him.



I agree that would’ve been the best way to handle it
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March 30th, 2020 at 3:47:56 PM permalink
The early warning he received was to not make the thread an "eff u losers" type of thread. Considering the claim is built off a mathematically unsound basis, which just doesn't fly here....there's likely not a whole lot of leeway for him here.

My thinking is he would have had no issues here to simply post his adventures. Once he started responding to the doubt, it was all over. Suspensions were all but certain. I would have given him a choice. Post your adventures and don't respond or the thread is a no go. Call it a thread blog. Can someone create a thread and not allow responses?

Like I said...he should have just posted his trips and not worry about who didn't believe him. It's human nature and the nature of forums that his claims here going to be met with good and bad responses.

I can point him in the direction of several gambling forums where he won't get suspended for content.
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March 30th, 2020 at 4:44:27 PM permalink
This whole drama is stupid. The site is paid for by all these fake bonuses nobody can win on. They might as well give $1,000,000,000.
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March 30th, 2020 at 4:46:39 PM permalink
MDawg: it's your lucky day
I wrote a song for you - for you to sing actually
I think you already know the melody - it's the same melody as a song made famous by Joe Cocker

here we go - here is the title and lyrics:


....................................................................................... 𝑰 𝑨𝑴 𝑺𝑶 𝑩𝑬𝑨𝑼𝑻𝑰𝑭𝑼𝑳.................................................................................


𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘴𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘶𝘭

𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦

𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘴𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘶𝘭

𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦

𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦

𝘐'𝘮 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘐 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘩𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘥 𝘧𝘰𝘳

𝘐'𝘮 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘐 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘥

𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘴𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘶𝘭

𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦

𝘐'𝘮 𝘢 𝘨𝘶𝘪𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵

𝘛𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘶 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘯𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵

𝘐'𝘮 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘷𝘦𝘯'𝘴 𝘨𝘪𝘧𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦

𝘚𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘫𝘰𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘐 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨

𝘓𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘢 𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘮

𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘴𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘶𝘭

𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦𝘦









ᴩʟᴇᴇᴇᴇᴇᴇᴢ - ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ᴍᴜꜱɪᴄ ᴠɪᴅᴇᴏ ᴏꜰ yᴏᴜ ꜱɪɴɢɪɴɢ ᴛʜɪꜱ - ɪᴛ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ꜱᴜᴄʜ ᴀ ɴɪᴄᴇ ɢᴇꜱᴛᴜʀᴇ ꜰᴏʀ yᴏᴜʀ ꜰᴀɴꜱ
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March 30th, 2020 at 5:47:23 PM permalink
The Rooster continues the insults. See if management takes it down or turns the blind eye.
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March 30th, 2020 at 5:57:20 PM permalink
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He’ll go back to gamblingforums.com during his 4 month hiatus.

Hopefully he’s back on the tables by August.


Obviously you haven't been to Vegas Casino Talk forums. You come up there every now and then. See you there.
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