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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:47:08 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

I'm still in the game up +11 units, this Gold Mining book does work. Glad my friend shared it with me really. Am winning 550$.

Okay, I'm done entertaining this...

MODS - this is the 5th or 6th times he's tried to spam about this book by name. CLEARLY this thread is just an advertisement for a baseless, mathless, LOSER system that this poster is trying to scam on our community by saying over and over "it works" and "it's all in the book" when he's already told us enough of the "strategy" to make it mathematically laughable and infuriating all at the same time.

Thread stays open for appropriate ridicule and mockery, OP banned for solicitation - spamming - and attempted scamming, nuclear option.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:50:50 PM permalink
"OnceDear" You got this all wrong sir, I don't have anything to do with steve-tabone I just read his books that's all. I think you're reading too much into this. I like reading about betting systems and have written this from day one. Also play slots and have posted on slots and steve tabone does not have any books on slots, so there. Don't blame me for what others do.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:52:30 PM permalink
Quote: Steven fessing up on another forum


I have sold a lot of copies of my book . . . In marketing I have people working for me. Therefore it does not follow that if one of my team communicate on my behalf or as another member that it is me. I have three on my team. One is London, one in Russia and one in the Philippines. It is true that my Russian worker uses proxies I'm not going to lie. Many people uses proxies in marketing and this was his idea

I agree with Romes. Not just TomFish: It's obvious there is more than one proxy hereabouts.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:53:22 PM permalink
"Romes" you blame others for referring to systems just because you can't win? or don't believe in systems? then what are you doing on a gambling forum? lol nothing better to do? no money to gamble with?
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:56:17 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

"OnceDear" You got this all wrong sir, I don't have anything to do with steve-tabone I just read his books that's all. I think you're reading too much into this. I like reading about betting systems and have written this from day one. Also play slots and have posted on slots and steve tabone does not have any books on slots, so there. Don't blame me for what others do.

Tom, If I misjudged you, then hear this loud and clear. The systems you advocate are a crock.
You will (probably) lose money if you adopt these systems.
You will definitely lose all credibility if you try to promote those systems here.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:57:42 PM permalink
"OnceDear" are you paranoid or what. a good system is a good system. Just because others say so it does not follow they are Tabone's promotors...does it? So if someone writes about "Frank Scoblete's" systems will you also say such posts are inside jobs?
OMG get over the fact that you can't win and allow others to talk about their wins.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:59:46 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Tom, If I misjudged you, then hear this loud and clear. The systems you advocate are a crock.
You will (probably) lose money if you adopt these systems.
You will definitely lose all credibility if you try to promote those systems here.



For the final time, I'm not promoting anyone's systems, okay no systems works, they are all bad, etc etc, Tabone's, scoblete's etc etc.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:00:23 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

"Romes" you blame others for referring to systems just because you can't win? or don't believe in systems? then what are you doing on a gambling forum? lol nothing better to do? no money to gamble with?

The "Wizard" himself doesn't believe in betting systems. You want to ridicule him too? Sorry, we believe in math... and you have none. You're spamming our community attempting to scam people in to buying a worthless book that doesn't hold ANY value. I've been AP'ing casinos and winning money from them for over a decade... consistently... year after year... and I can tell you first hand your system is a complete scam and garbage.

The house edge on a column bet is 5.26%. Every spin is in independent trial (read up on the gamblers fallacy).

If you bet $100 on 2 of the columns, your EV is -$10.52... EVERY TIME YOU BET 2 COLUMNS (EVERY SPIN). The zero's absolutely play a factor as you LOSE BOTH YOUR BETS when either one of the 0's land. There's no amount of talking that can change that FACT... and those two 0's are accounted for in the 5.26% house edge of the game.

This forum is full of intelligent individuals that you're not going to scam over by spamming illogical phrases like "it just works, trust me guys!" Stop scamming these forums, and hopefully soon enough you'll be banned, so good riddance.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:02:16 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

The "Wizard" himself doesn't believe in betting systems. You want to ridicule him too? Sorry, we believe in math... and you have none. You're spamming our community attempting to scam people in to buying a worthless book that doesn't hold ANY value. I've been AP'ing casinos and winning money from them for over a decade... consistently... year after year... and I can tell you first hand your system is a complete scam and garbage.

The house edge on a column bet is 5.26%. Every spin is in independent trial (read up on the gamblers fallacy).

If you bet $100 on 2 of the columns, your EV is -$10.52... EVERY TIME YOU BET 2 COLUMNS (EVERY SPIN). The zero's absolutely play a factor as you LOSE BOTH YOUR BETS when either one of the 0's land. There's no amount of talking that can change that FACT... and those two 0's are accounted for in the 5.26% house edge of the game.

This forum is full of intelligent individuals that you're not going to scam over by spamming illogical phrases like "it just works, trust me guys!" Stop scamming these forums, and hopefully soon enough you'll be banned, so good riddance.



Clearly you have not read the book because it is about SINGLE ZERO roulette! so there....Also the book DOES NOT say bet two columns... and I did not write "trust me guys!" You should learn to represent the truth and not MAKE THINGS UP!
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:03:59 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

Clearly you have not read the book because it is about SINGLE ZERO roulette! so there....Also the book DOES NOT say bet two columns...

House edge on single zero roulette is 2.7%... nothing I said changes other than how much you're still inevitably going to LOSE. Nothing. You hold no points or factual basis by it being single 0. You will still lose all your money on single 0 roulette, just a little bit slower than double 0.

Shocking (not really) that you again provided no mathematical basis to your claim. I showed some basic math for the game. Where is yours? How can you make your expected value positive with how you bet?
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:06:37 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

House edge on single zero roulette is 2.7%... nothing I said changes other than how much you're still inevitably going to LOSE. Nothing. You hold no points or factual basis by it being single 0. You will still lose all your money on single 0 roulette, just a little bit slower than double 0.

Shocking (not really) that you again provided no mathematical basis to your claim. I showed some basic math for the game. Where is yours? How can you make your expected value positive with how you bet?



You can't write that because you're not a gambler, you have not read the book, you have not read any systems, and you do not believe in systems so your bias against them which means you are going to run any system player down. You want all the stage to run everything you do not agree with down and out.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:10:43 PM permalink
No one here will believe you unless you reveal the system for free. No one here will pay for a system so just stop trying.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:13:29 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

"Romes" you blame others for referring to systems just because you can't win? or don't believe in systems? then what are you doing on a gambling forum? lol nothing better to do? no money to gamble with?



Quote: Tomfish

You can't write that because you're not a gambler, you have not read the book, you have not read any systems, and you do not believe in systems so your bias against them which means you are going to run any system player down. You want all the stage to run everything you do not agree with down and out.



You've only tried the system for two days and have only won an extremely small fraction of what you claim it's capable of. If you had any belief in this system (or any other), the only reason you would have ignored it for so long is if you were completely illogical.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:13:30 PM permalink
Quote: alphastorm

No one here will believe you unless you reveal the system for free. No one here will pay for a system so just stop trying.



I'm hardly going to breech copyright am i. I'm not a system promoter i don't need to be i am independently wealthy. Thank you.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:18:31 PM permalink
'TomG' I did doubt it, but as I wrote, my friend claimed he was winning using it, so I thought I'd give it a go. He allowed me to read the book, and I did some checks online against real live outcomes as the book advises. Then I played for real money. Though i can't play 24/7 can i because I'm not a gone gambler, i have a day job. do will give it another day another day and build up my winnings hopefully if the system holds its own. if it doesn't i'll dump it. but right now i'm winning.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:31:03 PM permalink
You claim to be independently wealthy and have a day job. It's like with every single thing you say you prove more and more how wrong, stupid, and illogical you are. Does your day job really pay you $1 million every other week? If not, you should be at the casino as close to 24/7 as possible. The more time you spend writing on here instead of playing your system, the more you prove that your system is as stupid as you are
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:37:25 PM permalink
"TomG" I have a day job though I don't need to work, (I can afford not to) But I enjoy working and it pays well. (how much I have and how much I earn is my business) btw, I'm not "wrong" / "stupid" or "illogical". I don't accept what you're saying, but hey, let it all out, you might need to, since you clearly are frustrated. ...
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:41:44 PM permalink
Bought and read Tomfish's recommended book. It's worthless guys. Let's move on.

p.s. I have an 11 inch penis and make $500,000 per day playing roulette (because MY system is the one that really works).
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:41:55 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

(how much I have and how much I earn is my business)



You choose to talk about it here and let everyone else know your business

Quote: Tomfish

btw, I'm not "wrong" / "stupid" or "illogical"



You showed us a system that can earn millions. Then you said you've only earned $550. If you aren't stupid, then you are clearly a liar.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:46:24 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

You choose to talk about it here and let everyone else know your business



You showed us a system that can earn millions. Then you said you've only earned $550. If you aren't stupid, then you are clearly a liar.



That was my first session... i didn't increase my stakes in that session...as i wrote i am taking it slow and will build up my stakes on a daily basis NOT IN ONE DAY.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:48:15 PM permalink
"Romes" you're not a gambler and you don't believe in systems. You've never read a book in your whole life. lol.
Last edited by: Tomfish on Apr 2, 2018
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:50:50 PM permalink
As soon as I read the phrase “bet on the strong column” about 6 pages ago in this thread , I knew it was no longer worth reading.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:52:22 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

That was my first session... i didn't increase my stakes in that session...as i wrote i am taking it slow and will build up my stakes on a daily basis NOT IN ONE DAY.



So you are independently wealthy, yet winning 10% of your money was only $550. The only way that is possible is if you are a liar.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:54:38 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

As soon as I read the phrase “bet on the strong column” about 6 pages ago in this thread , I knew it was no longer worth reading.



there are a number of really good illustrations to prove the bias other data. Non system believers will not read a system book because they are gone gamblers, done their money, have no purpose in life...
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:57:50 PM permalink
I never told or asked anyone to buy the book, all i said is that my friend allowed me to read his copy. I enjoy systems, I know many don't. But this is a gambling site and systems matter.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:58:16 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

"Romes" your not a gambler and you don't believe in systems. You've never read a book in your whole life. lol.

lol I've been introduced and read and mathematically evaluated dozens and dozens if not hundreds of systems over the past decade. Every single betting system is a proven mathematical loser.

Also, it's "you're", not "your"... English not your first language? Aren't you going to congratulate me on my 11 inch penis and $500k per day with MY roulette system? Why don't you want to know about MY system that WORKS? Are you against systems?
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:02:40 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Bought and read Tomfish's recommended book. It's worthless guys. Let's move on.

p.s. I have an 11 inch penis and make $500,000 per day playing roulette (because MY system is the one that really works).

Are you using your 11 inch penis at the table as some sort of ball position measuring 'tool'? You do realise that the eye in the sky can detect things as small as 11 inches and you might find yourself back-roomed and your unauthorised device used in evidence against you, or confiscated!

Oh sorry, I thought this was the 'talking silly' thread.

I bought a book once. It was rubbish. The guy that wrote it made a profit though :o(
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:15:56 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

lol I've been introduced and read and mathematically evaluated dozens and dozens if not hundreds of systems over the past decade. Every single betting system is a proven mathematical loser.

Also, it's "you're", not "your"... English not your first language? Aren't you going to congratulate me on my 11 inch penis and $500k per day with MY roulette system? Why don't you want to know about MY system that WORKS? Are you against systems?



You'll be banned for using offensive language...that clearly forms part of 'your' first language, as well as insulting people and making up all kinds of lies and using spin to support your delusions. My spelling is good, I had not made any mistakes re (your / you're) comment.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:22:37 PM permalink
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So you are independently wealthy, yet winning 10% of your money was only $550. The only way that is possible is if you are a liar.



My money, my wealth is my business, as I wrote, it doesn't have anything to do with you. 550$ is a nice profit using a new system. I will be increasing my wagers. But again, since you're not a gambler and not a system believer then this info will not be of interest to you save that you like to insult people and invent all kinds untruths in an attempt of trying to make your online persona look wonderful.

In reality readers know you're completely full of it! ;-) ;-)
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:24:57 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish to Romes

You'll be banned for using offensive language...



I nominate this for 'Post of the Year'

Popcorn anyone?
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:25:32 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

You'll be banned for using offensive language...



If he isn't banned, then that will be one more lie added to the list of many you've told
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:26:52 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

...My spelling is good, I had not made any mistakes re (your / you're) comment.

Me spell good two. Me no how system works and how make big money. Give money me and I give u secrets.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:28:43 PM permalink
thanx but no thanx, me not buy systems me read it for free, when me friend eded it to meee. ;-) me friend he give me leg up over trump's wall too, me know how to liv in a free country ;-) U U USA
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:30:48 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

My money, my wealth is my business



You decided to make it our business by talking about it here

Quote: Tomfish

550$ is a nice profit using a new system.



Only if you have very little money. For the rest of us we win much more using much better system than you do

Quote: Tomfish

I will be increasing my wagers.



You could have increased your wagers yesterday, but you didn't because you are stupid. You could have increased your wagers today, but instead you're here talking to us

Quote: Tomfish

But again, since you're not a gambler and not a system believer then this info will not be of interest to you save that you like to insult people and invent all kinds untruths in an attempt of trying to make your online persona look wonderful.



I have many systems that I use and sell -- and they earn me much more than $550. For you to claim otherwise once again proves that you are a complete liar.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:33:36 PM permalink
'TomG' me want to buy your systems please that can make me lot of money, more, much more than gold mining the roulette wheel book me read for freee. me want to be like you mr. TOM please i want, i want to know about your systems that make you a lot of money. tell me your secret system, please tommy man G, please.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:48:43 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

'TomG' me want to buy your systems please that can make me lot of money, more, much more than gold mining the roulette wheel book me read for freee. me want to be like you mr. TOM please i want, i want to know about your systems that make you a lot of money. tell me your secret system, please tommy man G, please.



It costs $550 and I accept PayPal, cash, money orders, and personal checks. Either let me know how you are going to pay, or admit that you are lying
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:52:22 PM permalink
The name TomFISH says it all.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:54:57 PM permalink
me throw you the money over the wall TOM=G
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:58:55 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

It costs $550 and I accept PayPal, cash, money orders, and personal checks. Either let me know how you are going to pay, or admit that you are lying

Hi TomG, can I negotiate us a discount? $1000 and you send the system to both of us, via me. TomFish can send his 500 to me (after all I'm facilitating the discount) and I'll add my 500 after TomG has sent two copies to me. I forward one copy to TomFish in my capacity as escrow and deal facilitator.

Note to mods. Where are you guys Wizard is lurking and posting!?
I'm taking the p155 here because this topic has descended into farce many pages ago.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 3:55:58 PM permalink
Just keep us updated bruh don't let the haters get to you
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April 2nd, 2018 at 5:46:35 PM permalink
Good grief. What kind of maelstrom have you guys descended to here?

Tomfish. Seems obvious you're selling this book. Nuked for system selling.

TomG. 3 days for calling him stupid. Twice. Cmon.

The rest of you. Did someone declare national piranha day or something? Geez.

Thread closed.
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