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April 1st, 2018 at 5:03:59 PM permalink
A friend recommended a new book that has been published recently Roulette column betting systems on amazon, 'Gold Mining the Roulette Wheel' I don't normally bet on columns but he said the systems in the book are real beauties and chances are I can make at least 10% profit of my bankroll per day.

If this is true
day 1, $1,000 +10% $1,100
day 2, $1,111
$1,222
$1,3443
$1,478
$1,626
$1,789
$1,968
$2,165

in 9 or 10 days i have doubled my money or if i play two sessions per day then i have doubled my money within 5 days. if i play 3 sessions per day then within 3 days i can double my money. i could make more than 1 million in no time at all. He says with a bankroll of 10 and bet limit 1 aim for 2 unit wins. when you get 20 units bankroll bet 2 units aim for 4 units per day then just keep adding 30 units play 3 flat bet units and so on, he says systems are so great you will always win cos there are stop losses and bet again triggers. i thought i'd ask if anyone knows anything about column betting?
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April 1st, 2018 at 5:17:41 PM permalink
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. if i play 3 sessions per day then within 3 days i can double my money. i could make more than 1 million in no time at all.



Never enter a casino with that mindset. You'll be very dissapointed
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April 1st, 2018 at 5:27:02 PM permalink
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i could make more than 1 million in no time at all.



You seem to have been a member for a while but you can't be for real! Seriously. You can't believe that.
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April 1st, 2018 at 5:28:16 PM permalink
Why only a million? Win the keys to the place!
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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April 1st, 2018 at 5:31:05 PM permalink
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You seem to have been a member for a while but you can't be for real! Seriously. You can't believe that.



I don't know, maybe it's possible to make money from systems, I mean if half the time we go into profit and we ran with the money then the other half we did not lose but lost and came back with money back and then went into profit and then ran we would be winning.
people lose cos they carry on playing when they win because they get greedy, if we don't get greedy we can keep on making money increasing our stakes, i see no reason why in theory if the systems work,. got to be worth a try. i don't know, maybe roulette is too risky.
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April 1st, 2018 at 5:32:55 PM permalink
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Why only a million? Win the keys to the place!



i don't think they would like that. better to win a million then visit other joints take cream off what others are losing. get in and get out, so go with 100k make 5-10k and leave. keep going this once you have the million and you will be making a goof 30k a week min
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April 1st, 2018 at 5:59:53 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

A friend recommended a new book that has been published recently Roulette column betting systems on amazon, 'Gold Mining the Roulette Wheel' I don't normally bet on columns but he said the systems in the book are real beauties and chances are I can make at least 10% profit of my bankroll per day.

If this is true
day 1, $1,000 +10% $1,100
day 2, $1,111
$1,222
$1,3443
$1,478
$1,626
$1,789
$1,968
$2,165

in 9 or 10 days i have doubled my money or if i play two sessions per day then i have doubled my money within 5 days. if i play 3 sessions per day then within 3 days i can double my money. i could make more than 1 million in no time at all. He says with a bankroll of 10 and bet limit 1 aim for 2 unit wins. when you get 20 units bankroll bet 2 units aim for 4 units per day then just keep adding 30 units play 3 flat bet units and so on, he says systems are so great you will always win cos there are stop losses and bet again triggers. i thought i'd ask if anyone knows anything about column betting?



Tom,

It's not true.

Those numbers, they're unhatched chickens.

Goose eggs.

Pie in the sky.

Yeah, I just finished cooking dinner.

Any system works...until it doesn't.

The math you need to know about roulette, is that all but one bet has the same house edge. On double zero, it's 5.26%. The last one is worse (the 123 0 00).

So every single bet is against you. It isn't that you can't hit a number, or a column, or a row. It's that when you DO, they don't pay you the full amount, or fair odds, of that number hitting. They pay you a little less. But when your bet loses, you lose all of it.

And that's how they make their money. They have all day to collect. And it's always in their favor, every spin.

No doubt you can bet and come home a winner sometimes. Maybe even for a while. But not long enough for any system to pay you positive money on a negative bet.

Hope this makes sense.

Oh, and the guy who wrote the book? His "Gold Mine" is if he sells a bunch of books.

If his system worked, he wouldn't sell books about it on Amazon. He'd be making quiet money at roulette, all by himself, If his system DID work, the casino wouldn't let him play it.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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April 1st, 2018 at 6:28:09 PM permalink
but hang on, hold your horses, my friend told me that most people who gamble do not make money because they lose all what they win, because they just like to gamble and are not interested in making money, making profit.

if they were to walk with what they win and not get carried away they would be making money, they don't make money he said because they don't want to they just love the buzz of gambling.

and when you write that the house wins because of it's edge this is only half true since a player has an edge too a stronger edge over the house and that is if he uses a good system, 1, and 2, if he sets himself a target and leaves when he makes what he set out to make, going back to the gambler who enjoys gambling for the sake of it and not for profit.

spread betting is just like roulette in that there is an edge, 'the spread' the first point or 2 the bettor needs to pay and he stands to lose a lot more than one unit wager per bet than roulette, in spread betting he stands to lose many points so if he bet $10 he could end up losing x10 $10 = $100 whereas in roulette when he places a $10 bet on one column if he loses he loses only $10!

and when he wins he wins $20 plus his wager of $10. my friend says he is using the system and says i should too, i read part of the book and can see the advantages in roulette betting over spread betting. I stand to lose a lot more in spread betting and in roulette i can win small but build up my wager to a point where i am making good money with minimal risk.

my friend says his making good money so how is he doing it?
is he lying to me?

so far what i'm reading looks good so long as i can control my bankroll i can win money and therefore make profit from my bets on roulette column betting. the book claims there is a bias and from what i can make out so far it seems true i am checking the wheel. well if my friend can do it so can i.
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April 1st, 2018 at 6:41:30 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

but hang on, hold your horses, my friend told me ...

my friend says he is using the system and says i should too, ...

my friend says his making good money so how is he doing it?
is he lying to me?...
well if my friend can do it so can i.



Is your friend a member here? If not, can I call him a comedian? Are you having a laugh? Bad Bad Tom :o)

My friend says the secret to beating Roulette is easy.

Bet more on the numbers or colour or columns that are about to win.
Bet less on the numbers or colour or columns that are about to lose. ( You need to bet some to avoid heat )
Set a goal and always leave with a profit.
If you make a small loss, walk away before its a big loss, then walk back again later and make a profit.
Immediately walk away from the table and spin three times after hitting your win goal. The universe is watching you.
Keep a positive mental attitude.
Know how random works and use that knowledge to pre-empt it.
Always remember your winning sessions.
Always forget your losing sessions sessions.
Keep good records so that you can pay your taxes on your profit.
And stay hydrated.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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April 1st, 2018 at 7:10:57 PM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

A friend recommended a new book that has been published recently Roulette column betting systems on amazon, 'Gold Mining the Roulette Wheel' I don't normally bet on columns but he said the systems in the book are real beauties and chances are I can make at least 10% profit of my bankroll per day.


"Chances are"?

"Chances are," you can make one unit on a straight 10-step red/black roulette Martingale something like 612 times out of 613.
However, the 1023-unit loss on that 613th time more than makes up for it.

Here's what I know about column betting:
On a double-zero wheel, when you bet on a particular column, you will win 6/19 of the time, and lose the other 13/19.

I did do some quick simulations, and got that, if your bets are 5% of your initial bankroll, you will be ahead 10% before you wipe out about 5/6 of the time.
The problem, of course, is, on average, if you do this six times and start with a bankroll of, say, 100, you will make a profit of 10 5 times, and a loss of 100 on the sixth, for an overall loss of 50.
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April 1st, 2018 at 7:15:12 PM permalink
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The problem, of course, is, on average, if you do this six times and start with a bankroll of, say, 100, you will make a profit of 10 5 times, and a loss of 100 on the sixth, for an overall loss of 50.

Don, my friend says to skip the sixth time and use that opportunity to grab a drink to stay hydrated. Or, if avoiding heat, just bet real low on those losing sessions.
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April 1st, 2018 at 7:44:43 PM permalink
change your first name to iam
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:10:50 PM permalink
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Is your friend a member here? If not, can I call him a comedian?

Wow that's very generous of you. I would have called someone's friend a blanking idiot and followed up with birds of a feather. I can't, and remain within the rules, so I won't.


Isn't WMW's strategy to walk away when you are ahead as well?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:14:45 PM permalink
April fools?
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:36:26 PM permalink
If this works, why isnít your friend a millionaire?

That was a rhetorical question. It doesnít work.
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April 1st, 2018 at 9:26:10 PM permalink
what exactly is the system? The columns pay 2-1 but only have a 12 out of 37 or 38 chance of winning. I donít see how any series of columns bets can add up to a definite win
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April 1st, 2018 at 11:56:01 PM permalink
Well I for one want to say that after I spent several entire minutes looking into the matter, I'm quite sure that the friend who your friend told you about knows exactly what he's doing, and shame on anyone who ever doubted it. I went to Amazon to check the publishing history of the author of this book. Firstly, I was reminded that Ierms like "publish" and "author" and "book" do seem to mean something very different nowadays than what they always did before, but nevermind that.

I scrolled through the list of "books" that are said to have been "published" by this "author" and discovered that before this roulette wheel "Gold Mining" and "Baccarat Trend Spotting..." and ""Ultimate Baccarat Winning Strategy..." and then "Ultimate Silver Bullet Proof Baccarat Winning Strategy 2..." and "Ultimate Golden Secret Baccarat Winning Strategy 3..." not to be confused with the earlier "Ultimate Bullet Proof Baccarat..." all of which have miraculously been cranked out at the astonishing average rate of about one brilliant "book" containing more secret discoveries every thirteen weeks or so... and then, there it was! The original source of the eruption of this literary geyser of financial brilliance!

Besides the photo allegedly of Steven Tabone under a wind-blown hairpiece & dark glasses while posing in front of a castle, there's the genesis, Mr Tabone's fundamental primary inspiration/fantasy-stimulant/keyboard-laxative contained in his "eBOOK KINDLE PUBLISHING EXPERT: Selfpublishing (sic) Kindle eBook Marketing Guide: How to Write 'Create-Space' Books, Kindle eBooks that Sell" including stream of consciousness riffs on "marketing, sales, advertising" and "the cover of e-books...being one of the most important aspects of e-book marketing...the layouts and color tones...to produce a better looking e-book..." Not so much about whatever random clumps of dust and lint and yard clippings might be stuffed into them, but how they can be made to look and sound and what feeling that may provoke in some target audience as they are squeezed out like like an endless trail of convulsive rat droppings. But nuggets of dung that go "ka-ching!"
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April 2nd, 2018 at 3:40:32 AM permalink
that simulation you did it's only ever going to average out to the mean, so the results your getting cannot be valid since moreover no system was applied to it.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 3:44:25 AM permalink
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If this works, why isnít your friend a millionaire?

That was a rhetorical question. It doesnít work.



he says he has not stopped winning using the system, i have been looking at real live roulette results online and so far the system does work. so far there's doubt in my mind that there is anything wrong with this system it works and i can't fault it. it is very powerful never read anything like it. i'm going to give it a try for real money.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 3:47:32 AM permalink
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what exactly is the system? The columns pay 2-1 but only have a 12 out of 37 or 38 chance of winning. I donít see how any series of columns bets can add up to a definite win



what i read in the book, you bet one column, the strongest column on the wheel but you two other factors to judge when and when not to bet that column. it's a golden system because it works on logic and there's no doubling down! this is what i'm attracted to.

I've tested it on real spin results and it holds its own mostly up for far from what i can see and when down not for long. amazing.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 3:56:17 AM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

Well I for one want to say that after I spent several entire minutes looking into the matter, I'm quite sure that the friend who your friend told you about knows exactly what he's doing, and shame on anyone who ever doubted it. I went to Amazon to check the publishing history of the author of this book. Firstly, I was reminded that Ierms like "publish" and "author" and "book" do seem to mean something very different nowadays than what they always did before, but nevermind that.

I scrolled through the list of "books" that are said to have been "published" by this "author" and discovered that before this roulette wheel "Gold Mining" and "Baccarat Trend Spotting..." and ""Ultimate Baccarat Winning Strategy..." and then "Ultimate Silver Bullet Proof Baccarat Winning Strategy 2..." and "Ultimate Golden Secret Baccarat Winning Strategy 3..." not to be confused with the earlier "Ultimate Bullet Proof Baccarat..." all of which have miraculously been cranked out at the astonishing average rate of about one brilliant "book" containing more secret discoveries every thirteen weeks or so... and then, there it was! The original source of the eruption of this literary geyser of financial brilliance!

Besides the photo allegedly of Steven Tabone under a wind-blown hairpiece & dark glasses while posing in front of a castle, there's the genesis, Mr Tabone's fundamental primary inspiration/fantasy-stimulant/keyboard-laxative contained in his "eBOOK KINDLE PUBLISHING EXPERT: Selfpublishing (sic) Kindle eBook Marketing Guide: How to Write 'Create-Space' Books, Kindle eBooks that Sell" including stream of consciousness riffs on "marketing, sales, advertising" and "the cover of e-books...being one of the most important aspects of e-book marketing...the layouts and color tones...to produce a better looking e-book..." Not so much about whatever random clumps of dust and lint and yard clippings might be stuffed into them, but how they can be made to look and sound and what feeling that may provoke in some target audience as they are squeezed out like like an endless trail of convulsive rat droppings. But nuggets of dung that go "ka-ching!"



He can't be that bad because i also found him on https://www.888casino.com/blog/writers/stephen-tabone without the shades and the castle! lol, my friend told me his the best system writer of casino games in the world, that he writes better systems than any computer can ever do. his been in the business of casino system since 1997 he must be good. why would 888 have him write for them if he didn't know what he was talking about.

anyway i'm going to the his gold minding the roulette wheel column system for real money, my friends says he was made profit every day his used it.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 3:59:34 AM permalink
this sounds better then only betting craps on good shooters, so have fun
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April 2nd, 2018 at 4:02:42 AM permalink
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this sounds better then only betting craps on good shooters, so have fun



yes good luck all, hope you discover the best ways to win on roulette since I've now found my way, the gold mining way, will be taking a 5k bankroll and going all the way. I only need 4 unit wins a day for this to pay off.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 4:06:06 AM permalink
Go get Ďem tiger!
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April 2nd, 2018 at 4:15:28 AM permalink
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what exactly is the system? The columns pay 2-1 but only have a 12 out of 37 or 38 chance of winning. I donít see how any series of columns bets can add up to a definite win



mostly flat betting, well is all flat betting but some like to add, anyhow book cover all that.
you bet on one column at certain times and, without breaching copyright you use all three systems in the book to inform you when and when not to bet...it truly is an amazing book overall because it 'fights randomness using logic'. in Gold Minding the Roulette Wheel, the Author argues, https://www.amazon.com/GOLD-MINING-ROULETTE-WHEEL-GROUND-BREAKING-ebook/dp/B07BTRC5F9/ref=la_B01COOOED8_1_14?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1522668102&sr=1-14&refinements=p_82%3AB01COOOED8

that people give too pay too much attention to randomness as if it were more powerful than logic, just because the outcomes before they occur are hidden, not known. He writes that using pure logic evens out this random bias that causes people to lose. he shows you how to do this and,

i have checked 1,000 outcomes myself in 2 days and he is correct 110%, this is why my friend can't stop winning.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 7:49:22 AM permalink
Okay, okay... it's April 2nd now. Can we stop the nonsense and have a good chuckle at those that bit at it? This system can embarrassingly be disproved using "logic" but more importantly math.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 8:00:15 AM permalink
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Okay, okay... it's April 2nd now. Can we stop the nonsense and have a good chuckle at those that bit at it? This system can embarrassingly be disproved using "logic" but more importantly math.



you could say that up to a point. no one is saying that you should continue to play a system so that you might end up losing what you would have won. If you pull out up then your up! So long as you can get up at any stage using a system then this is the main point...this is what makes a good system, the ability to get up, this is all a player needs, the rest is money management leaving when up.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 8:34:38 AM permalink
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you could say that up to a point. no one is saying that you should continue to play a system so that you might end up losing what you would have won. If you pull out up then your up! So long as you can get up at any stage using a system then this is the main point...this is what makes a good system, the ability to get up, this is all a player needs, the rest is money management leaving when up.

Everything about that is wrong. The moment you place your FIRST bet you're at a negative house edge and you're EXPECTED to lose money. That's logic and math. Your "system" says "get lucky and leave!" which doesn't make it a good system... it just makes it like all the rest... completely pointless and devoid of logic and math. It's not a winner. Your system at no point in time gives you "better odds" of winning. This is why it would NEVER work in the long run and NO ONE EVER would become a millionaire from it, given how you said you'd win X thousand per day, etc, etc.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 8:55:25 AM permalink
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Everything about that is wrong. The moment you place your FIRST bet you're at a negative house edge and you're EXPECTED to lose money. That's logic and math. Your "system" says "get lucky and leave!" which doesn't make it a good system... it just makes it like all the rest... completely pointless and devoid of logic and math. It's not a winner. Your system at no point in time gives you "better odds" of winning. This is why it would NEVER work in the long run and NO ONE EVER would become a millionaire from it, given how you said you'd win X thousand per day, etc, etc.



it does seem to be a great system because,

1. there is a 1 in 3 chance of winning,
2. there is a 2 in 1 chance of losing,
3 zero/s do not matter or stop from making profit.
4. it's a win 2 or lose 1 system so minimal risk
5. the book refers to the best column and why, it also uses two other systems to support the author's method of when and when not to bet the best column.

The system in this book is unlike the 'rest' what the rest are. if you're looking for a system that comes close to winning often then this is it. I have read there are also stop losses and bet again triggers. I've nearly finished reading this Gold Mining the Roulette Wheel book and I can't fault it save I will give it a go for real money on live Roulette online and at a casino.

Also the Author's system is mostly flat betting and he does not like progressions. So this is why this system is not like 'all the rest.

I'll let you know how i get on and my friend is still winning using it.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 9:11:02 AM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

it does seem to be a great system because,

1. there is a 1 in 3 chance of winning,
2. there is a 2 in 1 chance of losing,
3 zero/s do not matter or stop from making profit.
4. it's a win 2 or lose 1 system so minimal risk
5. the book refers to the best column and why, it also uses two other systems to support the author's method of when and when not to bet the best column.

The system in this book is unlike the 'rest' what the rest are. if you're looking for a system that comes close to winning often then this is it. I have read there are also stop losses and bet again triggers. I've nearly finished reading this Gold Mining the Roulette Wheel book and I can't fault it save I will give it a go for real money on live Roulette online and at a casino.

Also the Author's system is mostly flat betting and he does not like progressions. So this is why this system is not like 'all the rest.

I'll let you know how i get on and my friend is still winning using it.



Why do zeros not matter?

Your column bets lose when ball lands on zeros. That should matter imo
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April 2nd, 2018 at 9:12:58 AM permalink
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in 9 or 10 days i have doubled my money or if i play two sessions per day then i have doubled my money within 5 days. if i play 3 sessions per day then within 3 days i can double my money. i could make more than 1 million in no time at all.



Once you've earned that million, you can double it again -- earning another million in another nine or 10 days. The fact that you haven't yet earned several million proves to everyone else that everything you've said is complete horseshit.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 9:21:04 AM permalink
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Why do zeros not matter?

Your column bets lose when ball lands on zeros. That should matter imo



This is factored into the system. It's in the book. zero losses do not affect the amount you win. Info i read in the book, because of the odds of zero appearing, zero outcomes cannot damage the power of the system in the book. if you read the book it answer this.

I'm playing online now and am up 6 units. I was only ever down 2 units. and have been up to 7 units so far. If i go down to 4 up i'm going to stop take the winnings. i like this system because it hangs in there. loving it.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 9:42:14 AM permalink
Quote: Tomfish

This is factored into the system. It's in the book. zero losses do not affect the amount you win. Info i read in the book, because of the odds of zero appearing, zero outcomes cannot damage the power of the system in the book. if you read the book it answer this.

I'm playing online now and am up 6 units. I was only ever down 2 units. and have been up to 7 units so far. If i go down to 4 up i'm going to stop take the winnings. i like this system because it hangs in there. loving it.



The odds of zero appearing are the same as all the other numbers. 1/37 for single zero and 1/38 for double and i suppose 1/39 for sands roulette [rowlf]
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April 2nd, 2018 at 9:51:03 AM permalink
yes the book does state all this
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:13:51 AM permalink
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Okay, okay... it's April 2nd now. Can we stop the nonsense and have a good chuckle at those that bit at it? This system can embarrassingly be disproved using "logic" but more importantly math.


The problem is, system players do not believe in math or logic. They only live in the past. Their thinking is this...They won, so it must work.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:15:59 AM permalink
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yes the book does state all this



Well keep us up to date on your wins (losses) once you get started in a brick and mortar casino
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:16:03 AM permalink
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yes the book does state all this



Well keep us up to date on your wins (losses) once you get started in a brick and mortar casino
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:23:14 AM permalink
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The problem is, system players do not believe in math or logic. They only live in the past. Their thinking is this...They won, so it must work.



from what i can make out it's better to bet using a good system then without one. i mean how else are you going to win playing Roulette? I can't see any other better Roulette systems. This system is this book "uses logic" so i don't understand what you're going on about.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:24:54 AM permalink
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Well keep us up to date on your wins (losses) once you get started in a brick and mortar casino



I'm still in the game up +11 units, this Gold Mining book does work. Glad my friend shared it with me really. Am winning 550$.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:25:34 AM permalink
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This system is this book "uses logic" so i don't understand what you're going on about.



Saying it can earn you millions, then choosing not to earn that money is completely illogical
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:27:24 AM permalink
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Saying it can earn you millions, then choosing not to earn that money is completely illogical



I'm up 550$ that is logic! I am set up to win millions can't see myself losing using this system.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:49:20 AM permalink
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I'm up 550$ that is logic! I am set up to win millions can't see myself losing using this system.



If the system worked as you described it, you should be earning $100,000 per day. Itís like you lost $999,450 today alone by being unable to use logic
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April 2nd, 2018 at 11:04:24 AM permalink
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i mean how else are you going to win playing Roulette?


I can think of a few ways:
- cheating (past-posting etc)
- finding a biased wheel and tracking it so you know where to bet

Other than that, you don't win at roulette. It's a negative EV game. That is what everyone is trying to get through to you. The casino has an advantage on every bet, and it doesn't matter how you combine them...the casino will have a long-run advantage over you.

You may win in the short term, but you will eventually lose.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 11:15:35 AM permalink
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If the system worked as you described it, you should be earning $100,000 per day. Itís like you lost $999,450 today alone by being unable to use logic



I'm building up my earnings slowly. As you say no system is perfect therefore it's better to err on the side of caution. But if I continue to win over this week, I'll up my stakes have no fear about that.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 11:18:49 AM permalink
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I'm building up my earnings slowly. As you say no system is perfect therefore it's better to err on the side of caution. But if I continue to win over this week, I'll up my stakes have no fear about that.



You are correct in that i have no fear of that
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April 2nd, 2018 at 11:20:09 AM permalink
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I can think of a few ways:
- cheating (past-posting etc)
- finding a biased wheel and tracking it so you know where to bet

Other than that, you don't win at roulette. It's a negative EV game. That is what everyone is trying to get through to you. The casino has an advantage on every bet, and it doesn't matter how you combine them...the casino will have a long-run advantage over you.

You may win in the short term, but you will eventually lose.



I get what you're saying, but I'm making short term bets as the book says and getting out up, so as long as i win most times i play i will always be a winner! i think the people that keep playing lose and this is what the casino expects, they want people to keep playing and to double down. but this is all flat betting. I have stopped gambling today and won $500, I'll go at it again tomrw with 5.5k 75$ per bet so i stand to win $150 each column win, I'll be looking at winning 4 units $300 and will take a break and hit it again for another $300. then my bankroll will be 6.1k i'll hit the big time at this rate 1 million easy before the Summer.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 11:47:01 AM permalink
Why are you wasting your time here when you have an advantage 24/7 365 with scalability that can make you a millions? Time is money.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:37:33 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

The problem is, system players do not believe in math or logic.


Yet they believe in magic.

Coincidence? You decide!!


EDIT: Itís clear tomfish is just advertising for his book. Ahem.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:44:30 PM permalink
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Why are you wasting your time here when you have an advantage 24/7 365 with scalability that can make you a millions? Time is money.

Tom is not wasting his time here. He knows darned well that there are two sure fire ways of making zero risk cold hard cash using Steve Tabone's systems:-

1)Be Steve Tabone and promote and SELL those systems as books and e-books on amazon and elsewhere.
or
2)Be a paid associate of Steve Tabone and spend your time on forums, raving about Steve Tabone and his great systems.

We had a flurry of users sign up here on or around August, All raving about this great guy and his great systems. It's the elegantly simple business model used to promote those nice cash sales.

The member 'TOTHESEA' was nuked here for system selling. Two members who are not banned are TomFish and DarkWays. Well check out their posting history. They both seem as keen to promote these nonsense e-books and systems as they were in their very first posts here.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/29314-baccarat-is-a-riddle-wrapped-in-a-mystery-inside-an-enigma/2/#post606400

Quote: : Steven fessing up on that other forum


I have sold a lot of copies of my book . . . In marketing I have people working for me. Therefore it does not follow that if one of my team communicate on my behalf or as another member that it is me. I have three on my team. One is London, one in Russia and one in the Philippines. It is true that my Russian worker uses proxies I'm not going to lie. Many people uses proxies in marketing and this was his idea



Pull the other one guys: It's got bells on it.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:46:28 PM permalink
Will keep you updated of profit and loses. I can't say it's always going to work or over the long term. Will just have to test it out. My friend allowed me to read his copy I have nothing to do with it. Not into publishing into casino gambling.

If you have a better system then let me know would love to read some.
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