keiko1995
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September 20th, 2017 at 7:35:34 PM permalink
this formula is simply amazing , i made $100 to $450 a day with this formula, i'm only playing with $5 unit base in online baccarat casino with live dealer, imagine how much you will make if your unit base is $25 or more, this formula worth $1000 , but the reality is, NOT everyone will have a $1000 in their pockets especially when they've lost a lot in baccarat, and for the sake of humanity if you are interested with the formula but you don't have $1000 you can contact me via email : or my skype : [redacted] and gets a special price from me, you will get a PANACEATKO e-book and 2 hours of audio-recorded PANACEATKO sessions between me and jay silva.
if you are interested you can contact me and i can show you the preview from the e-bbok

i wish you all good luck !
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September 20th, 2017 at 7:48:57 PM permalink
Jay Silva the MMA fighter?
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September 20th, 2017 at 7:51:37 PM permalink
haha no , the guy from atlantic city, you can see his video on youtube , panacea tko
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September 20th, 2017 at 8:03:21 PM permalink
I'd rather follow Phil Ivey around.
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September 20th, 2017 at 8:06:31 PM permalink
i think phil ivey won't show you his baccarat playing technic LOL
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September 20th, 2017 at 8:28:43 PM permalink
I already know it.
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September 20th, 2017 at 9:54:42 PM permalink
For the sake of humanity I hope you get hit by a bus.
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September 20th, 2017 at 10:35:33 PM permalink
Quote: keiko1995

or my skype : (redacted) and gets a special price from me, you will get a PANACEATKO e-book and 2 hours of audio-recorded PANACEATKO sessions between me and jay silva.



Are you in Nambia ? Please just give us a paypal address to send money. Thanks.
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September 20th, 2017 at 10:55:49 PM permalink
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Are you in Nambia ?


According to another site, Singapore.
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September 21st, 2017 at 1:27:50 AM permalink
Does your system work in brick & mortar casinos (ie: Las Vegas), or is there some trick to it and it has to be any online or a specific online casino?
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September 21st, 2017 at 1:59:07 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Are you in Nambia ? Please just give us a paypal address to send money. Thanks.



hey man no offense, i am not trying to steal your goddamn money, just want to try helping people, this formula worth $1000 bucks, and it works great for me , i am not trying to say that this formula will give 100% chance of winning that will be stupid, if you are not interested, it's fine
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September 21st, 2017 at 2:13:23 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Does your system work in brick & mortar casinos (ie: Las Vegas), or is there some trick to it and it has to be any online or a specific online casino?



jay silva told me his formula works in both brick & mortar and online casino, i myself play in online casino m88, i'm playing with base unit of $5 , and everyday i have a PPM / pure profit margin of 60 unit per session, if i reach my PPM i stop playing for 24 hours,
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September 21st, 2017 at 2:26:27 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

For the sake of humanity I hope you get hit by a bus.



nice try man LOL ,
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September 21st, 2017 at 3:23:42 AM permalink
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just want to try helping people



If there were only more people like you! I am going to panhandle as hard as I can now to get that $1000
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September 21st, 2017 at 3:50:00 AM permalink
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If there were only more people like you! I am going to panhandle as hard as I can now to get that $1000

Its harder work than you think, OG.

The only way to win consistently at Baccarat is to own the casino or know what cards are in the shoe.
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September 21st, 2017 at 4:30:31 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

If there were only more people like you! I am going to panhandle as hard as I can now to get that $1000



i'm not trying to sell this formula for $1000, if you have enough money to pay $1000 please go to jay silva and take his baccarat course, you will have 1 on 1 private sessions with him, BUT if you just wiped-out your bankroll, and $1000 is a big deal for you, and if you are interested with jay silva's panacea tko formula, i can give you the e-book and the audio-recorded sessions between me and jay silva, you can pay me as much as my Profit margin for 1 session, which is between $300-$450 , and i think that will be fair.
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September 21st, 2017 at 4:41:45 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Its harder work than you think, OG.

The only way to win consistently at Baccarat is to own the casino or know what cards are in the shoe.



it's hard but not impossible, watch the video about Gonzalo García-Pelayo the man who beat the roulette table, baccarat is more simple than the roulette, in baccarat you only have 2 option to choose between banker and player , and the other bets are suckers bet
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September 21st, 2017 at 4:43:25 AM permalink
Quote: keiko1995

this formula is simply amazing , i made $100 to $450 a day with this formula, i'm only playing with $5 unit base in online baccarat casino with live dealer, imagine how much you will make if your unit base is $25 or more, this formula worth $1000 , but the reality is, NOT everyone will have a $1000 in their pockets especially when they've lost a lot in baccarat, and for the sake of humanity if you are interested with the formula but you don't have $1000 you can contact me via email : or my skype : [redacted] and gets a special price from me, you will get a PANACEATKO e-book and 2 hours of audio-recorded PANACEATKO sessions between me and jay silva.
if you are interested you can contact me and i can show you the preview from the e-bbok

i wish you all good luck !



I am interested. Please show me the preview from the e-book. I would be willing to pay up to $250 for a winning baccarat strategy.
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September 21st, 2017 at 4:52:05 AM permalink
Quote: TomG

Quote: keiko1995

this formula is simply amazing , i made $100 to $450 a day with this formula, i'm only playing with $5 unit base in online baccarat casino with live dealer, imagine how much you will make if your unit base is $25 or more, this formula worth $1000 , but the reality is, NOT everyone will have a $1000 in their pockets especially when they've lost a lot in baccarat, and for the sake of humanity if you are interested with the formula but you don't have $1000 you can contact me via email : or my skype : [redacted] and gets a special price from me, you will get a PANACEATKO e-book and 2 hours of audio-recorded PANACEATKO sessions between me and jay silva.
if you are interested you can contact me and i can show you the preview from the e-bbok

i wish you all good luck !



I am interested. Please show me the preview from the e-book. I would be willing to pay up to $250 for a winning baccarat strategy.




give me your email
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September 21st, 2017 at 5:40:53 AM permalink
The people who really can beat the system stay quiet. They have no interest in trying to teach other people what they do. Scammers on the other hand...............
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September 21st, 2017 at 5:57:30 AM permalink
Quote: vegas

The people who really can beat the system stay quiet. They have no interest in trying to teach other people what they do. Scammers on the other hand...............



everybody has their own opinion, if you are not interested it's fine man, but not all of them are scammers
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September 21st, 2017 at 7:10:27 AM permalink
Quote: keiko1995

everybody has their own opinion, if you are not interested it's fine man, but not all of them are scammers

Unless you're doing some kind of AP strategy (there are a few for bac) then no, they are all scammers and ALL of their "systems" do not work. Simply changing your bet, or using money management (stop loss or win goal) will not affect the outcome of the next hand in the slightest.

If anyone had a way to consistently beat ANY casino game they wouldn't be betting $5 per hand. What's wrong? Not confident in your own system? Why aren't YOU betting $25, $50, or hell why not $1000 per hand if you know it's a consistent winner? Why wouldn't you become a millionaire first?

This "I wanna help others" is pure BS. No gambler gives away his own winnings, and that's what you'd be doing if in fact you really had found a way to consistently beat the game. I can't stand BS threads like this that prey on the weak minded by giving promises of riches while giving ZERO mathematical indication that your "system" does anything other than generate negative expected value (-EV).

I HAVE A MATHEMATICALLY PROVEN WAY TO NEVER LOSE A PENNY PLAYING BACCARAT.... Don't play the damn game, ever. Then you won't ever lose a single cent in baccarat. At least my system is mathematically proven.

I hope you get bit by a spider.
I hope you lose your TV remote control.
I hope you lose your house/car keys for like, a while, but then you find them.
I hope your internet is only, or gets downgraded, to dial-up only.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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September 21st, 2017 at 7:39:58 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Unless you're doing some kind of AP strategy (there are a few for bac) then ...

There may or may not be some AP strategies for Baccarat but there are certainly none for someone like me who can not remember what cards have been played or even reliably add the cards that are visible in each hand. For Fleastiff, its simply Pick Banker and hope you are right; or Pick Player and hope you are right. Nothing else. No "system" None.
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September 21st, 2017 at 8:10:36 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

There may or may not be some AP strategies for Baccarat but there are certainly none for someone like me who can not remember what cards have been played or even reliably add the cards that are visible in each hand. For Fleastiff, its simply Pick Banker and hope you are right; or Pick Player and hope you are right. Nothing else. No "system" None.



If memory serves me correctly, Baccarat hands are completely independent of the last hand dealt(in a fair game) and result, much like the toss of the dice in craps.
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September 21st, 2017 at 8:19:31 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

If memory serves me correctly, Baccarat hands are completely independent of the last hand dealt(in a fair game) and result, much like the toss of the dice in craps.

Not so, see Baccarat card counting - Effects of removing a card. The conlusion is the game is not countable.
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September 21st, 2017 at 8:55:08 AM permalink
Quote: keiko1995

i'm not trying to sell this formula for $1000, if you have enough money to pay $1000 please go to jay silva and take his baccarat course, you will have 1 on 1 private sessions with him, BUT if you just wiped-out your bankroll, and $1000 is a big deal for you, and if you are interested with jay silva's panacea tko formula, i can give you the e-book and the audio-recorded sessions between me and jay silva, you can pay me as much as my Profit margin for 1 session, which is between $300-$450 , and i think that will be fair.



So, let me understand this.

You are selling a COPY of a book you didn't write, and COPIES of some sessions you taped, probably without the other guy's consent, of a method on which you're unwilling to gamble more than $5 a hand, for several hundred dollars. But you're not a thief or a scammer.

Go find patsies somewhere else, you creep. Good grief.
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September 21st, 2017 at 12:02:55 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

If memory serves me correctly, Baccarat hands are completely independent of the last hand dealt(in a fair game) and result, much like the toss of the dice in craps.


Any deck of cards can be counted until it's shuffled. How much it helps in whatever game you are playing is a different story.

If you look at the link BleedingChipsSlowly posted, straight up baccarat is mathematically beatable, but the edge is so low that you'd be making pennies per hour on 4 figure bets, and variance/error would unquestionably wipe you out.

Many baccarat side bets are countable with varying degrees of profitability. Most of the bets I've seen in the U.S. are more or less non-starters, but I imagine opportunities have existed at one time or another. Someone in a thread a few months back had claimed they made a hefty profit overseas counting a bac side bet, which may very well be possible given how popular the game is in Asia.

It could be a good to stash away in the back of your mind in case an opportunity did in fact come up somewhere, crazier things have happened than good side bets hitting the floor, and combined with a good promotion...you never know.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 3:03:11 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

straight up baccarat is mathematically beatable, but the edge is so low that you'd be making pennies per hour on 4 figure bets, and variance/error would unquestionably wipe you out.

Making a 4 figure bet would wipe me out.
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September 24th, 2017 at 11:26:30 AM permalink
Baccarat is not beatable, but Silva has had an impressive run.

His first video shows a bankroll of $67,000 in 2015. The latest shows a bankroll of $1,152,000.
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September 24th, 2017 at 11:29:31 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

Baccarat is not beatable, but Silva has had an impressive run.

His first video shows a bankroll of $67,000 in 2015. The latest shows a bankroll of $1,152,000.


Probably highly edited and the extra money coming from other sources.
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November 6th, 2017 at 1:44:31 PM permalink
I am interested in it too
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November 6th, 2017 at 1:54:24 PM permalink
Quote: mivecgpx

I am interested in it too

Hi Mivecgpx,
Welcome to the forum.

Interested in ways to make losing money more fun?

In case you haven't grasped it yet, there is no system or strategy to enable you to beat the game of Baccarat as a player. Except cheating, which some casinos could do.

Some liars, fools and trolls might claim otherwise.

There may be occasional ways of exploiting certain casino bonuses, comps and rebates.

Stay hydrated.


Incidentally, the original poster of this thread has long been banned from here, so is unlikly to reply.
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November 6th, 2017 at 5:17:48 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear



Stay hydrated.



Still one of the best all time lines on this site!
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November 11th, 2017 at 1:46:14 PM permalink
Some of the Baccarat sidebets like dragon are countable, but the player / banker bets themselves are not countable as the EOR for any card is negligible. OP's system is obviously a scam. Win 60 bets and then stop playing for 24 hours? Why? Is there some magic pendulum effect I'm unaware of? I mean if you really had a winning system you would want to grind it out and keep putting in the volume. But of course OP does not have a winning system.
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November 11th, 2017 at 2:24:36 PM permalink
Quote: BlackjackGuy123

Win 60 bets and then stop playing for 24 hours? Why?



That's how long it takes the dealers at the Indian casinos to put all the 10s back in the Chinese shufflers.
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November 11th, 2017 at 2:27:47 PM permalink
Anyone here good at acting? The next time someone comes along with a so-called winning system, I could use other members to pretend to be interested via PM. I'm sure it won't take long for money to be asked for. When it is, bingo, I'll evidence to get rid of them. Please PM me if interested. Do not post here because a good spy doesn't reveal his identity.

As a reminder, here is rule 10 of the forum rules,

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November 11th, 2017 at 7:35:56 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Anyone here good at acting? The next time someone comes along with a so-called winning system, I could use other members to pretend to be interested via PM. I'm sure it won't take long for money to be asked for. When it is, bingo, I'll evidence to get rid of them. Please PM me if interested. Do not post here because a good spy doesn't reveal his identity.

As a reminder, here is rule 10 of the forum rules,

I had thought about doing this on my own in the past and outing them, but I assumed that doing so would violate the PM rule and you
wouldn't go for it.
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November 11th, 2017 at 7:57:59 PM permalink
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So, let me understand this.

You are selling a COPY of a book you didn't write, and COPIES of some sessions you taped, probably without the other guy's consent, of a method on which you're unwilling to gamble more than $5 a hand, for several hundred dollars. But you're not a thief or a scammer.

Go find patsies somewhere else, you creep. Good grief.



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November 11th, 2017 at 9:39:10 PM permalink
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I had thought about doing this on my own in the past and outing them, but I assumed that doing so would violate the PM rule and you
wouldn't go for it.



Yes, it would. However, you can report rule violations in a PM to an admin.
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November 11th, 2017 at 10:43:05 PM permalink
Can I use this system on craps or do I have to buy Watchmewin's system as well oh crap you got banned
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November 11th, 2017 at 11:33:58 PM permalink
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Can I use this system on craps or do I have to buy Watchmewin's system as well oh crap you got banned



I have a craps system. If you go to the Margaritaville casino in the flamingo and stand on the $5 side of the table instead of the$10 side, you will lose less so long as you bet the table minimum.

That's the strangest table I've ever seen.

I'll keep my eye out for a check. Please make it out to cash. Thanks.
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January 1st, 2018 at 7:21:04 AM permalink
Baccarat is beatable. I’m one of Jay’s student and have experienced just that. He recently released is BaccaraTKO Formula on YouTube. Check it out here. (Link removed by mod) Try it out and come back and let me know how it went. I would love to hear your thoughts.


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January 1st, 2018 at 7:22:39 AM permalink
You put up the money and I'm sure someone will try it out.
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January 1st, 2018 at 7:28:06 AM permalink
It’s free to practice the formula. I would never recommend for someone to try out Baccarat Jay’s training without first practing the formula for 2 weeks for a least 2 hours a day. Anything else is a sure way to lose your bankroll.
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January 1st, 2018 at 7:59:33 AM permalink
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Baccarat is beatable. I’m one of Jay’s student and have experienced just that. He recently released is BaccaraTKO Formula on YouTube. Check it out here. [redacted]. Try it out and come back and let me know how it went. I would love to hear your thoughts.


Oh ffs. Is there no end to this nonsense!
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January 1st, 2018 at 8:02:00 AM permalink
:D It’s all good. Happy new year!
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January 1st, 2018 at 8:24:55 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: Sam1

Baccarat is beatable. I’m one of Jay’s student and have experienced just that. He recently released is BaccaraTKO Formula on YouTube. Check it out here. [redacted]. Try it out and come back and let me know how it went. I would love to hear your thoughts.


Oh ffs. Is there no end to this nonsense!


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January 1st, 2018 at 8:29:48 AM permalink
My name is Jay Silva (Baccarat Jay) and don't buy anything from bootleggers who are trying to sell my book,
as a Christmas Gift to my followers I made this video:

(Link redacted by mod)

I teach the formula for free, 100% real, no need to buy anything, to all the Baccarat experts that think Baccarat can not be beat
but still play to lose, shut the hell up, and try the lottery instead, you will have a better chance to win.
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January 1st, 2018 at 11:18:07 AM permalink
New Year, same nonsense.

Serenity Now!
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January 1st, 2018 at 11:20:40 AM permalink
Quote: Baccaratjay

My name is Jay Silva (Baccarat Jay) and don't buy anything from bootleggers who are trying to sell my book,
as a Christmas Gift to my followers I made this video:

(LinK redacted by mod)

I teach the formula for free, 100% real, no need to buy anything, to all the Baccarat experts that think Baccarat can not be beat
but still play to lose, shut the hell up, and try the lottery instead, you will have a better chance to win.



In the words of The Godfather....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wmzRNNbpRwM
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