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nutflush
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April 17th, 2014 at 8:11:37 PM permalink
PLEASE HELP! CRAPS 80% PLAYER ADVANTAGE OVER THE HOUSE?

I found this youtube video that claims, "CRAPS 80% PLAYER ADVANTAGE OVER THE HOUSE" found below.

I have been trying is out on my own (not in a casino), and have won every time but i dont have enough hours in the day to proove it wrong. Is this CRAPS 80% PLAYER ADVANTAGE OVER THE HOUSE legit?

Thank you in advance.

Mark
dwheatley
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April 17th, 2014 at 8:21:32 PM permalink
I spent 2 minutes to discover that the 'system' is to wait for 3 non-field rolls, and then to martingale the field. The rest of the video is the dude rolling the dice a few times.

Is there a reason you think this is convincing?
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nutflush
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April 17th, 2014 at 8:31:52 PM permalink
I have been trying it out and winning in my own trials. I also read that the Wizard had a computer program that could play out thousands of rolls and I also heard that this site can help to prove or disprove scams. Just looking for help brother.
AxelWolf
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April 17th, 2014 at 8:36:37 PM permalink
SPAM hidden within a cry for help.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
nutflush
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April 17th, 2014 at 8:52:23 PM permalink
Come on man... Im real, not a scammer. I am not selling anything... I know I have done research, this is not supposed to work but i has worked so far. Its ok if you dont want to help. This is only a request not a cry...
nutflush
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April 17th, 2014 at 8:54:46 PM permalink
Can anyone here prove it wrong?
gts4ever
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April 17th, 2014 at 9:05:37 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

SPAM hidden within a cry for help.


or is it a cry for help hidden within SPAM?
RS
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April 17th, 2014 at 9:06:35 PM permalink
Every time you make a field bet, you are giving up 2.7% of your bet to the house. That's the house's edge. So, every time you bet, you're losing money. You can't add up a bunch of negative numbers and end with a positive one.

I saw a player martingaling the field from $5 up to $2000. He was doing fine for hours. Then all of a sudden, a wave of 5s 6s 7s and 8s came out. After 11 consecutive non-field rolls, he was tapped out. The next 5 or 6 rolls were still non field rolls. I think I ended up counting 16 non-fields in a row. He was rather surprised, but to my amazement said, "Well if was fun while I lasted, have a good night everyone."


So, while most of the time you end up ahead, you will end up losing. If there was a way to simply bet a certain and win, everyone would be doing it.
ahiromu
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April 17th, 2014 at 9:21:52 PM permalink
How about this as an example:

You walk up to a double zero roulette table and put $1 on 35 different numbers. You have a 35/38=92% chance at winning a net of $1. Does this make it a good bet... the fact that you can come away with a profit 90% of the time? No, it doesn't, because if it hits one of the three numbers you didn't bet on then you lose 35x what you would have won. This is an easy to understand example of how the martingale works. Lots of small wins in exchange for a few losses that will break you.

Essentially, just as RS laid out.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
nutflush
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April 17th, 2014 at 9:34:01 PM permalink
Thanks! It is making more sense now... I know better but I was unable to prove it wrong, Thanks again!
nutflush
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April 17th, 2014 at 9:35:37 PM permalink
Thanks brother,,
dwheatley
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April 18th, 2014 at 4:02:31 PM permalink
The normal way to prove this doesn't work is to say 2 negative numbers (your expectation from two bad bets on the field) can't add up to a positive number. That is all. Don't try it with money you can't afford to lose.
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April 28th, 2014 at 12:02:39 PM permalink
Quote: nutflush

Can anyone here prove it wrong?



you seem in my book to be just asking a straight forward question...does it work? i went ahead and applied the principles the video suggest, and found some success with it several times. my first time out i gained $130 in 10 minutes, and other times less, but when i achieved success it was never less then $80, however i did lose during one session a lot...i encountered a bad set of roles, with it roll of 5-6-7-8, over and over for about 10 to 12 rolls.

however nothing of coarse is heavy in your favor, the video states the odds are 80% in your favor, if that was true 20% of the time it is still possible to lose your money.

i hope my trying it and letting you know helps you.
CasinoClown
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April 28th, 2014 at 12:28:24 PM permalink
craps player for life
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April 28th, 2014 at 1:10:28 PM permalink
More SPAM?

IP check on aisle 3, please.
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April 28th, 2014 at 3:01:03 PM permalink


This is the recursive strategy that always works. Well, it works at least until you have no more money.
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drjohnny
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May 1st, 2014 at 9:42:00 AM permalink
This system is pure garbage.

I did a few sims of this system with real dice a couple years ago and once encountered 15 consecutive field bet losses.

I've played craps no more than 20 times in the casino and I've already seen shooters roll over a dozen field losers in a row.

I wonder how much the kid in the video was able to win in real life before getting destroyed by a single bad run at the tables.
Deucekies
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May 1st, 2014 at 3:09:00 PM permalink
Just like any other martingale bet, it works until it doesn't.
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May 2nd, 2014 at 12:46:20 AM permalink
Thoughts regarding similarities to the following scenario?


You're led to a football field with the promise that there is a game set up which you have 99% of winning a million bucks.

You see ten rows of ten briefcases numbered 1 to 100.

You're told that 99 of the briefcases contain a million dollars and if you open one of them the cash is yours to keep...

But one of the cases contains a poisonous gas which will kill you instantly.

The game's always available and you can come back and play any time... (A new game assumes the case is replaced and reset randomly with 99 x $1M and 1 x gas again)

So would you play and open a case? (Try and imagine the genuine million dollar payout!)


Many would and get away with it, but spend the money and come back for another hit... It's pretty hard to give up with the 99% chance of winning...

But generally the game ends sooner or later with one result:

A dead man.
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May 2nd, 2014 at 6:38:41 AM permalink
Quote: 13s

Thoughts regarding similarities to the following scenario?


You're led to a football field with the promise that there is a game set up which you have 99% of winning a million bucks.

You see ten rows of ten briefcases numbered 1 to 100.

You're told that 99 of the briefcases contain a million dollars and if you open one of them the cash is yours to keep...

But one of the cases contains a poisonous gas which will kill you instantly.

The game's always available and you can come back and play any time... (A new game assumes the case is replaced and reset randomly with 99 x $1M and 1 x gas again)

So would you play and open a case? (Try and imagine the genuine million dollar payout!)


Many would and get away with it, but spend the money and come back for another hit... It's pretty hard to give up with the 99% chance of winning...

But generally the game ends sooner or later with one result:

A dead man.

Not a bad analogy. However, I would say 1mil is probably too much. 1mil is life changing money for the average (median) American (to say nothing of its effects on the average human). Death is worse, but not quite worse enough in my opinion.
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May 2nd, 2014 at 10:55:46 AM permalink
Didn't even spell possible correctly, yet thinks he is smart enough to take down a casino. Stuff like this makes me hate living in America.
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