The Samonte System

I just like how gr8player thinks that Card Counting is based on finding a time when there is a higher ratio of wins than losses :D and then complains when he's called ignorant.

Quote: gr8player

But it's rather upsetting to see a post of mine labeled as "ignorant" or "ill-informed" or "pathetic",.

Really? Go look at GG, that's what all your posts
were labeled.

Quote: Rorry

I just like how gr8player thinks that Card Counting is based on finding a time when there is a higher ratio of wins than losses :D and then complains when he's called ignorant.

Hello, Rorry.

No need to use the "ignorant" label, my friend. I claim no expertise in Blackjack, and even less in Card Counting, but "ignorant" seems a bit harsh, don't you agree? How about "inexperienced"? Or even "mistaken"? "Ignorant" connotes an inability to comprehend, and that is simply not the case here.

Quote: EvenBob

Really? Go look at GG, that's what all your posts
were labeled.

I can only suppose that it's a bit difficult being you, EvenBob. Why the urge to lie? Towards what end?

My posts were "labeled" as "ignorant"/"ill-informed"/"pathetic" at the Glen? Really? Selective memory much, EvenBob?

Oh, sorry, seeing as how you've brought up Gamblers Glen, should I address you as "Spike"? Speaking of which, why the multiple usernames? What, exactly, are you hiding from so much that you need to mask your various identities? I've posted in four forums, and, in each and every one of them, I am known as "gr8player". Never had any need for another name because I seek to deceive no one.

Contrary to your outright lie of an accusation, my posts speak for themselves, and anyone that knows me and follows my posts knows that I post only the truth. And I've enjoyed a "following" at the Glen as well as the now-defunct Baccarat Forum. To this day I still converse with a few of those members.

Lastly, EvenBob/Spike (and Goodness Knows how many other aliases), I should think that you'd be the very last person that would opt to dredge up the old Gamblers Glen site and/or posts. For anyone who cares to perform a search under your "Spike" username would be both amazed and amused at your oft-stated claims of over 70% accuracies at selecting even-chance propositions at Roulette. I always found that as fine fodder for amusement.

No, EvenBob/Spike, there is but one liar here. Only one of us has felt the need for multiple usernames. Only one of us has felt the need to outright lie just to serve their own selfish and pitiful agenda. Only one of us is the "bottom-feeder" in this chain of life that we're all a part of.

To think that you're fooling anybody, either here or at the Glen or anywhere that you post, different usernames notwithstanding, is pure folly on your part.

Quote: gr8player

No need to use the "ignorant" label, my friend. How about "inexperienced"? Or even "mistaken"? "Ignorant" connotes an inability to comprehend, and that is simply not the case here.

No. "Ignorant" means "not knowing". Like when I am ignorant of QED or of Chinese medicine. Does not imply anything on my abilities, just the fact that I didn't study something. OR I did and didn't understand it, but the labeler is not assuming this or that.

Here, definitely you are ignorant of the meaning of variance. You use it in your own sense, which is not only ignorant, but also arrogant and ridiculous. If you have something to say about your belief in "streak prediction", do it but don't disguise it under respectable names. And don't get angry if WE call a cat a cat.

NB(If needed) I didn't call YOU arrogant or ridiculous. Just that one thing that you wrote.

Hello, kubikulann. I trust all is well with you.

"....don't disguise it under respectable names"

I do use the term "variance" freely, but rest assured, kubikulann, I intend no disrespect.

No need for a simple case of semantics to cause such a stir, IMHO.

Stay well, my friend.

Quote: gr8player

Hello, kubikulann. I trust all is well with you.

"....don't disguise it under respectable names"

I do use the term "variance" freely, but rest assured, kubikulann, I intend no disrespect.

No need for a simple case of semantics to cause such a stir, IMHO.

Stay well, my friend.

gr8player,

I have refrained from engaging on these threads for the most part, but "variance" is a precise mathematical term to the people you're discussing this with, as the square of the standard deviation of any particular game, and not subject to semantical interpretation in that context. This appears to me to be the basis of their argument with you. They are asking for mathematical proof of a mathematical term you are using, and saying that you have not provided that, so you are misusing the term in the context of this discussion. Whether it's deliberate in order to obfuscate your intent and provoke them, or ignorance on your part is largely known only to you, but at this point it seems to be one or the other. Regardless, you're talking past them, not to them. JMHO

Hello, beachbumbabs (gotta luv that moniker), I trust all is well with you.

Please don't refrain from posting on my behalf, as I always enjoy and respect your position(s). You're an asset to this forum.

I've no reason, and, much less, the time nor inclination to "provoke" anyone here, as my intentions are far more honorable.

And what you may see as "misuse of the term", I both see and comprehend as absolutely practical.

That said, beachbumbabs, it appears as a given that my interpretation of the term "variance" may not be absolutely correct, and I can see where that could prove to be a "burr in the saddle" for many of our members. For that misunderstanding, I hereby apologize.

Just please know that I fully intend to continue to utilize my variance statistics as I see fit, as they happen to serve me and my Bac play rather formidably.

I wish you all the very best of it.

Quote: gr8player

Hello, kubikulann. I trust all is well with you.

Quote: gr8player

Hello, beachbumbabs (gotta luv that moniker), I trust all is well with you.

How come you never trust all is well with me, teacher?

Quote: gr8player

Hello, Rorry.

No need to use the "ignorant" label, my friend. I claim no expertise in Blackjack, and even less in Card Counting, but "ignorant" seems a bit harsh, don't you agree? How about "inexperienced"? Or even "mistaken"? "Ignorant" connotes an inability to comprehend, and that is simply not the case here.

Granted, overly diminishing isn't warranted. Still, you are often making arguments using information that is not accurate when making statements of defense and even offence. It seems you have amassed quite a anti-fan base.

My only, and last advice to you is to learn coding and get some simulation ability so you can prove with or without a doubt your beliefs. As many other members here have done, giving them ground higher than yours. Hearsay is one thing, and weak at that, math and the ability to show it in it's completeness is far stronger and will get you much further when making arguments publicly.

Quote: gr8player

Variance consideration is part and parcel of every bet I make. I am a confirmed variance player.

You've written over 400 posts so far and most of them are in defense of claims such as these:

Quote: gr8player

I like it. I'm rather adept at it, to the point of having a keen sense when the direction of the shoe is about to change. The triggers I utilize are not just to put me onto impending trends; I also have triggers to put me off of them.

Not everybody can do what I do. I get it, and I'm fine with it.

Quote: gr8player

The swings, the hits and the misses, the ups and the downs....they're all so very much a part of everyone's play, yet so very few of us know exactly how to handle them.

Quote: gr8player

When I'm in the midst of a negative variance....trust me, I can readily recognize negative variance

Why not silence the skeptics and invite a Forum member to join you at Mohegan or The Borgata to witness your skills?

Quote: Tanko

Why not silence the skeptics and invite a Forum member to join you at Mohegan or The Borgata to witness your skills?

My teacher has been running away from the challenge for 7 months now.

Quote: Beethoven9th

My teacher has been running away from the challenge for 7 months now.

That's the beauty of it. You cannot program ESP!

Quote: Tanko

You've written over 400 posts so far and most of them are in defense of claims such as these:



Why not silence the skeptics and invite a Forum member to join you at Mohegan or The Borgata to witness your skills?

I have made this offer to him many times. He *seamed to get real mad once I addressed all of his concerns with assurances of safety and other things. I don't even care about knowing his system I just want proof that he plays like he claims to. I believe he dose not play at all, if he dose it's at the lowest possible amount and he doesn't win. If I'm right then once this information gets out, how can he then con people out of money?

If you are persistent in posting bunk baccarat and other gambling theories eventually you get someone who is desperate and wants to believe.

Really how can you trust someone who cunt spill? I'll give the gr8 one a pass on that!

Quote: Rorry

It seems you have amassed quite a anti-fan base.

Make no mistake of it, Rorry, I have many more "followers" than I have "detractors"; you just won't get to read much of that here in this forum. Sorry....

Quote: Rorry

My only, and last advice to you is to learn coding and get some simulation ability so you can prove with or without a doubt your beliefs. As many other members here have done, giving them ground higher than yours. Hearsay is one thing, and weak at that, math and the ability to show it in it's completeness is far stronger and will get you much further when making arguments publicly.

If it could be done, I'd be first in line to do so. Alas, more to my dismay than anyone else's, my play would be virtually impossible to "code" successfully.

My play is much too subjective to be coded. I trend. I play the "current results that each particular shoe appears disposed to dispense" at each particular section thereof. And, even given that, I anticipate certain "changes", quite often in advance of them happening. (No, not a "prediction" method; I prefer to refer to it as a "variance correction" method.) I also vary my money-management techniques based upon those current results as well.

In short...can't put either me or my Bac play into a neat little box with a bow 'round it...(ah, what the heck, 'tis the season...)

Quote: DeMango

Really how can you trust someone who cunt spill? I'll give the gr8 one a pass on that!

Rare, indeed, for you and I to be on the same page, DeMango, but you surely know me well enough to know that I'm nobody's fool....

Quote: gr8player

If it could be done, I'd be first in line to do so. Alas, more to my dismay than anyone else's, my play would be virtually impossible to "code" successfully.

My play is much too subjective to be coded. I trend. I play the "current results that each particular shoe appears disposed to dispense" at each particular section thereof. And, even given that, I anticipate certain "changes", quite often in advance of them happening. (No, not a "prediction" method; I prefer to refer to it as a "variance correction" method.) I also vary my money-management techniques based upon those current results as well.

In short...can't put either me or my Bac play into a neat little box with a bow 'round it...(ah, what the heck, 'tis the season...)

You are quite the special little snowflake, aren't you?

Except you claim it's rigorous and you play the same way with the same method every time.

Its either by the numbers or it isn't. Ducking and weaving that you can't code it is just posing and nonsense, unless you are at times 'guessing'. In which case, all this talk about 'variance' and the numbers of disposition is all smoke, mirrors and self-justification you've built up to protect you from cold hard truths.

Quote: thecesspit

You are quite the special little snowflake, aren't you?

Sarcasm noted. Nice job, thecesspit.

Quote: thecesspit

Except you claim it's rigorous and you play the same way with the same method every time.

Correct. My method is nothing if not a consistent one.

Quote: thecesspit

Its either by the numbers or it isn't. Ducking and weaving that you can't code it is just posing and nonsense, unless you are at times 'guessing'. In which case, all this talk about 'variance' and the numbers of disposition is all smoke, mirrors and self-justification you've built up to protect you from cold hard truths.

The only "numbers it's by" are mine, personal to me. Highly unlikely as "codable". Possibly some of my play can be, and some cannot, but, in my case especially, the sum is only as good as the totality of its parts.

And all of your talk of "smoke and mirrors" and "cold hard truths", thecesspit, is misdirected. Think about it a minute, if you will:

I sit down at a session of Baccarat. I track and trend the current results, and I model my plays accordingly. And I'll keep tally of each plays' results. Periodically, I'll calculate exactly where my bet size is at and where my strike rates are at and I'll adjust one or both.

What would you like to code about that?

Quote: gr8player

I sit down at a session of Baccarat. I track and trend the current results, and I model my plays accordingly. And I'll keep tally of each plays' results. Periodically, I'll calculate exactly where my bet size is at and where my strike rates are at and I'll adjust one or both.

And you consistently lose money. You've left that part out.

If you have a method, is can be coded. If you're just guessing, it cannot. But if you base what your future events are based on past events, no matter how many of those changes are due to little changes in the past, it can be coded.

The only way something cannot be coded, is if past actions of either the shoe, your bet size, your win/loss ration, or any measurable event is not actually acted upon.

If you are not acting on measurable events, then you are not acting on anything other than a guess... and you will lose.

Quote: gr8player

Make no mistake of it, Rorry, I have many more "followers" than I have "detractors"; you just won't get to read much of that here in this forum. Sorry....

Four more posts, but you are evading my question.

Don't disappoint your 'followers'.

Why not silence the skeptics and invite a Forum member to join you at Mohegan or The Borgata to witness your skills?

Quote: gr8player

Sarcasm noted. Nice job, thecesspit.

Good.

Quote:

Correct. My method is nothing if not a consistent one.

Which is then codable. If data set Y in always results in response X, it's codable.



The only "numbers it's by" are mine, personal to me. Highly unlikely as "codable". Possibly some of my play can be, and some cannot, but, in my case especially, the sum is only as good as the totality of its parts.

And all of your talk of "smoke and mirrors" and "cold hard truths", thecesspit, is misdirected. Think about it a minute, if you will:

I sit down at a session of Baccarat. I track and trend the current results, and I model my plays accordingly. And I'll keep tally of each plays' results. Periodically, I'll calculate exactly where my bet size is at and where my strike rates are at and I'll adjust one or both.

What would you like to code about that?

All of it, obviously. I fail to see how any of this is not codable. All of it is data that can be input, analyzed and a response formed and made. You say so yourself. So therefore it is codable, testable and , key, improvable by yourself. But we've had this discussion before. You refuse to do the work necessary to work out your expected value, when you will have the advantage or anything like that, saying 'it's too hard'. Seems to be the same with coding up a simulation. Same when people challenge you on variance (oh, you use a different meaning of variance, I forget).

Thus, what are we left with? Smoke. Mirrors. A lack of substance. A mere foam of ideas floating around that as soon as any weight is put on them, they collapse and flow away with excuses.

The more you post, the more is is clear you have nothing worth sharing. Maybe it works for you, but why should anyone really care with such little evidence. Maybe you will take more of your mock offense and get upset we are pigeon holing you and putting you in a box. There's a reason for that. You do nothing worth taking out of the box you put yourself in. You sit and simmer and thrash around with noise, throw up some clouds of obfuscation, yet contribute nothing new to change anyone's mind. And when called upon it, sulk and simmer and wonder why the whole world is against you. But the reasons are obvious to anyone of any intelligence, and more so to anyone whose studied and spent time analyzing random and semi-random data streams.

Keep your methods secret, as exposing them would only make you more upset with the laughter from your critics. It would only serve to create more amusement on my part if you did reveal them, you know.

Quote: Tanko

Why not silence the skeptics and invite a Forum member to join you at Mohegan or The Borgata to witness your skills?

Get past it, Tanko. Never gonna happen. I am not a small player, Tanko, and that makes my safety, and, hence, my anonymity, a priority for me.

Quote: Rorry

If you have a method, is can be coded. If you're just guessing, it cannot. But if you base what your future events are based on past events, no matter how many of those changes are due to little changes in the past, it can be coded.

Uugghhhh...you're probably correct.

But it'll take a lot of work for me to put, into exact verbiage, all of the variances involved in my Bac play, both bet selection- and MM-wise.

That said, however, I will attempt to condense it as best I can in order to make it as practical as possible for coding purposes.

Give me some time, and then we'll need to seek out someone with the skills to enable the code.

TheCessPit,

I trust everything is well with you.

Here's something you can code, Gr8Player has a Variance-control mechanism, and so do I...for Video Keno. Let's break this down into five easy steps:

Finger Selection

Finger Selection is of the utmost importance, two hands, I can go left or I can go right. The balls can be drawn on the right side of the screen, they can favor the left side of the screen, or they can be in the middle. The question: What finger should I hit the draw button with? Should I use a finger at all?

The problem is that you have ten digits, but you only have eight columns. I thought about cutting off my thumbs, but that seemed a little extreme. The system, as it stands, is simple.

If the rightmost column has the most hits, then clearly I must use my right pinky finger as the draw button is also on the right, that will make the numbers go more to the left side, and I have seven numbers on the left column and three on the right when playing ten. If I'm playing nine, then I have six left and three right, eight is five and three, seven is five and two.

It's important to correlate what finger you use with the previous result, if the second rightmost column had the most hits, then clearly, I have to use my right ring finger the next time I hit the draw button on the screen.

This can't be simulated because the computer doesn't hit the Draw with different fingers, because computers don't have fingers, and that makes all the difference.

Where does that leave my thumbs? It doesn't, I don't use them, good way to guarantee a loss using your thumbs instead of your fingers. The truly dedicated will cut their thumbs off so as not to disturb the mystical qua-chi-fafa-haha, but I've unfortunately not reached that level of dedication.

There are times, however, where you won't use your fingers. For example, if any two (or more) columns are tied for the most number of hits, then clearly, I have to hit the draw button with my nose.

You may ask what you do if you actually manage to win a game by matching all numbers, or all numbers but one. The key there is that you want to preserve the exact result so it happens twice in a row, thus, you must use the center of your body. It may seem strange, but this leaves me no alternative but to unzip my pants, release my penis, and press the draw button with it. There is the risk of potential contamination, never know where the hands that touched that machine have been, but winning is winning, right?

Button or Screen?

This is an important question, but it is answered more simply than finger selection. Clearly, if you won on your last play, then you want to use the Draw button the screen if that is what you used before, and same thing with the draw button on the console.

It's very important to remember the three count, because three is a number of biblical importance, so God will be on your side. If you lose three times in a row on the screen, then switch to the console, and vice-versa.

The only exception to the Three Count is if none of those three plays hit a single number, then you need to get up, spin around in three circles, scratch your ass, sniff a clove of fresh garlic, pinch your LEFT nipple, and hit the button in the same place you hit it previously.

Bet Selection

This is where the 10% House Edge is really overcome...You have to account for the changing Variance by off-setting it with your own Variance, and a good deodorant, freshly applied. Remember, "He who smells good, plays good." If the denomination is $0.25, then you can bet up to $2.50, so shake ten pennies around in your hand and throw them up into the air, for each penny that lands heads, that's a quarter you need to bet.

See, the Variance of the pennies landing offsets the Variance of the machine, but only on Tuesdays-Fridays. On any other day, the Variance of the pennies and the machine goes hand-in-hand, which means you need to base your bet on the opposite of the number of tails multiplied by $0.25.

Now, this is where you might say the opposite of the number of tails and the number of heads is the same thing, but that's all in how you think about it.

Mystical Crap

This is where the symbols and signs come into play. The machine actually knows that it is you who are there, and the machine knows if you respect it. You must kneel before the machine and say eighty Hail Marys, because that's how many numbers there are, and everything will work out well for you. After that, you must lick the machine.

You must have the numbers you like to play tattooed on your body in reverse chronological order, in a conspicuous place, preferably your forehead. Again, I have not yet reached this level of devotion, but I do have the numbers tattooed on my bum, and I show my bum to the machine regularly.

The final thing is signs, you must flash the peace sign after every loss and never the middle finger. You must let the machine know that you both love and worship it, that you wish to be one with it.

Be as the Snake

This one is about timing. As a snake lies in wait for its prey it is always ready to strike, yet it only strikes at the most opportune time. To be as the snake, one must sit with his eyes closed for a period of no less than twenty-six minutes, that might irritate others who want to play the machine, but I'm not there to make friends, I'm there to win. You will feel it, probably in your loins, when you have achieved oneness with the Random Number Generator, which is no longer random, when you have achieved said oneness.

When you see the numbers in your mind, when you can visualize, with clarity, hitting the numbers that you selected in the exact order, you must press the button as fast as possible.

THIS ALWAYS WORKS

The only time it doesn't work is when you have forgotten to use your signs and symbols, when you have selected the button when you were supposed to select the screen, when you used your penis or nose when you shouldn't have, when you use the wrong digit, or when your bet selection is improper.

Which means it almost always fails, because you'll almost always do something wrong, but that's your fault, not the fault of the machine. Remember, by staying focused, calm and in control, you are the machine. You don't control the Variance, you ARE the Variance.

I wish it all for you, my friend.

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Quote: Ibeatyouraces

In other words..."I'll be exposed as liar and fraud."

Well, DUH !

Quote: Mission146

TheCessPit,

I trust everything is well with you.

Here's something you can code, Gr8Player has a Variance-control mechanism, and so do I...for Video Keno. .

Your method makes as much sense as GR8's. He
uses a car seat warmer, it's important his cheeks
are warm when he enters the casino because that's
the area of his body he pulls his method out of.

Quote: TheNightfly

And you consistently lose money. You've left that part out.

My teacher gr8player has lost $250,000 at baccarat.

Quote: Tanko

Why not silence the skeptics and invite a Forum member to join you at Mohegan or The Borgata to witness your skills?

When Axelwolf offered to meet up with him in AC, he ran away like Usain Bolt.

Quote: Mission146

TheCessPit,

I trust everything is well with you.

+250,000!

Quote: Beethoven9th

My teacher gr8player has lost $250,000 at baccarat.

I only threw that post in to make a point...

Everyone knows this guy and his system/strategy is full of garbage, just like every other system/strategy that pops up here on a regular basis. Varmenti, mrjjj, the list goes on and on.

Why oh why do people even take any part of what these posters say seriously? Why, beyond "no sir, you are mistaken, that strategy will lose money over time", is there any conversation at all? These guys add nothing and yet they bask in the glory of your attention. They get your back up and start ongoing arguments and once you've explained how the math proves that they are wrong... they just ignore the facts, repeat the same garbage and it all begins again! They repeatedly get people to take the bait again and again.

I'm just wondering why a board full of people who seem to have, for the most part, above average intelligence continue to fall for the same thing again and again - even when it's the same idiot with a different screen name!

Just my 2 cents. I'm sure Gr8 will post shortly, Beethoven will reply and off we shall go again.

Asian woman I watched, won 2 grand at bac table, no other game I see people winning that much. House can make the game choppy or trendy, but that about it, the rest is up to players. It is only game which is honest 100%. Separating high cards at BJ gives house 5% boost making it one of the worst games on the floor. One time I could not win a single hand in half hour, if you stick to one side at bac you'll brake even at worst.

Quote: Dicenor33

if you stick to one side at bac you'll brake even at worst.

That ain't true. If it was, then the house edge would be 0% at bac, and the casino wouldn't make any money.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/

Banker wins 0.458597
Player wins 0.446247
Tie 0.095156

The house edge is 1.06% on the banker bet, 1.24% on the player bet, and 14.36% on the tie. (8 deck)

I thoroughly enjoyed your keno system, Mission. Can it be adapted to video poker?

Quote: gr8player

Hello, beachbumbabs (gotta luv that moniker), I trust all is well with you.

Please don't refrain from posting on my behalf, as I always enjoy and respect your position(s). You're an asset to this forum.

I've no reason, and, much less, the time nor inclination to "provoke" anyone here, as my intentions are far more honorable.

And what you may see as "misuse of the term", I both see and comprehend as absolutely practical.

That said, beachbumbabs, it appears as a given that my interpretation of the term "variance" may not be absolutely correct, and I can see where that could prove to be a "burr in the saddle" for many of our members. For that misunderstanding, I hereby apologize.

Just please know that I fully intend to continue to utilize my variance statistics as I see fit, as they happen to serve me and my Bac play rather formidably.

I wish you all the very best of it.

gr8,

Fairly and decently written response, thanks. I think if what you have works for you, enjoy the ride. I don't generally post in baccarat or craps threads because I don't have a lot of experience playing either, and don't understand many of the nuances, though I'm aware of the basics of both. People discussing either on this forum are generally doing so at a level on which I have nothing to contribute, though they are sometimes interesting reading.

Carry on, and I do appreciate the distinction you acknowledged above.

Quote: Dicenor33

if you stick to one side at bac you'll brake even at worst.

Not so.

Banker wins about 103 hands to every 100 Player hands in the long term. The 5% commission on those winning Banker hands exceeds the difference between the Banker and Player wins.

Quote: Mission146

TheCessPit,

I trust everything is well with you.

... snip ...

I wish it all for you, my friend.

All was well till I got the mental pictures of someone playing Keno with their penis. Now all is not well, and needs to be cured by beer.

Lucky there is some tasty craft goodness in the fridge...

Quote: Wizard

I thoroughly enjoyed your keno system, Mission. Can it be adapted to video poker?

No, Video Poker is a terrible game because you have to bet Max Credits every time to get full pay on the Natural Royal. This makes bet selection impossible, and Video Poker an inherently worse game with an effective house edge of 37.65%.

Quote: thecesspit

All was well till I got the mental pictures of someone playing Keno with their penis. Now all is not well, and needs to be cured by beer.

Lucky there is some tasty craft goodness in the fridge...

Do you think a high-roller could do it? Like, "I want a Video Keno machine in $100 denom with a $1200 Max Bet, but it needs to be in a room, by itself, because I wish to hit the draw button using my penis?"

I guarantee you at least one house would make the concession, perhaps not for $100 denomination, but certainly for $1,000 Video Keno.

You people, especially Mission, got too much time on your hands.

That and I may be slightly friggin' crazy, so that doesn't help either.

I mean, who thinks of this sort of thing, even within the confines of parody?

Quote: gr8player

Get past it, Tanko. Never gonna happen. I am not a small player, Tanko, and that makes my safety, and, hence, my anonymity, a priority for me.

Of course.

Your legions of 'followers' were hoping for something better, but no one here expected anything different.

Pathetic.

But, go ahead and keep massaging yourself if that's what works for you.

Don't forget to tap/rub the screen if you almost hit a reel/royal/10spot. Seems like every casual player does this.

Quote: TheNightfly

Everyone knows this guy and his system/strategy is full of garbage, just like every other system/strategy that pops up here on a regular basis. Varmenti, mrjjj, the list goes on and on.

I'm just wondering why a board full of people who seem to have, for the most part, above average intelligence continue to fall for the same thing again and again - even when it's the same idiot with a different screen name!

No one takes these people seriously.

People here are just playing them.

The joke is that they just don't see it.

Or don't want to.

Quote: beachbumbabs

I don't generally post in baccarat or craps threads because I don't have a lot of experience playing either, and don't understand many of the nuances.

Answer: The nuances are "you bet Player, Banker or Tie" You don't need to look at the card handling, just wait and win or lose.

Quote: EdgeLooker

https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/

Banker wins 0.458597
Player wins 0.446247
Tie 0.095156

The house edge is 1.06% on the banker bet, 1.24% on the player bet, and 14.36% on the tie. (8 deck)

For all practical purposes, draws are independent. All the fuss here is about people who think they can predict outcomes.

Quote: kubikulann

Answer: The nuances are "you bet Player, Banker or Tie" You don't need to look at the card handling, just wait and win or lose.
For all practical purposes, draws are independent. All the fuss here is about people who think they can predict outcomes.

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They certainly are independent if you don't track the cards (even that means very little).

Certain posters think that knowing the number of 2-streaks in the last X shoes matters. Certain posters have strange ideas not based on normal mathematics.

Quote: kubikulann

Answer: The nuances are "you bet Player, Banker or Tie" You don't need to look at the card handling, just wait and win or lose.
For all practical purposes, draws are independent. All the fuss here is about people who think they can predict outcomes.

I was being polite. I'd rather watch paint dry than sit and watch a dealer deal an even money game. Oh, well...outed.

Quote: 7craps

I specifically challenge the so-called math experts and gambling gurus who advise other gamblers not to use a gambling system. Now that is a fair challenge.

I hope everyone know that you can't prove a negative.

When people say "betting systems don't work" technically they are saying that there is no reason why they should work. There is no way to "prove" that they fail.