Baccarat - What to consider
1. He has learned how to play the game. Knowing the rules of a game and how to play it properly should be a no-brainer for anyone before the set foot into a casino and places a live bet.
2. He plays at a trusted casino and is calm that the house isn't manipulating the shuffle or game play in anyway that poses a threat to the integrity of the game.
3. He seems to have a limit. He starts with a grand that he's willing to spend and keeps the rest of his cash, credit cards and ATM card out of the casino.
4. The player knows when to stop. He avoids running back to the car to grab more cash when he has spent his limit and has a solid set goal to leave when he is ahead.
There are other things the player should be aware of and rules he should follow. I can't say whether or not he gets drunk while playing. This is something players should not practice. Drunken gambling is bad for the player. I also am unaware whether or not the player has asked the casino how many decks are being used. There are some baccarat games that use 6 decks.
If he uses the style of betting mentioned before, then he is taking advantage of the best bet, the banker, every hand. While it leads to losing 5% during flat bets of both player and banker, he tends to overcome it by getting on board the streaks. However, he can increase his winning by not playing the first hand and start with a pressed bet on the second hand betting on the winner of the 1st hand. If the banker wins the 1st hand dealt, he saves 5%.
Baccarat is a game I was looking at. I managed a 7 day winning streak before losing when I sat at the wrong table. It might be something I will look into at some point and if things go as well as they have in BJ and Roulette, I expect a 20+ day winning streak sometime in the future.
Quote: Beethoven9thI just re-read the OP. Unfortunately, I still can't find its purpose.
It is supposed to cause you to bow down before its author, who has "demonstrated" himself to be a "skilled" baccarat player.
I do want to admit that one day when I went with my wife, we indulged in some glasses of wine that took us into a "not a good state" when gambling. I do not recommend Drinking if you plan on Gambling Professionally.
Quote: wrobersonIt's a system. After some reading, I have narrowed down what his is doing right that actually benefits the player.
1. He has learned how to play the game. Knowing the rules of a game and how to play it properly should be a no-brainer for anyone before the set foot into a casino and places a live bet.
2. He plays at a trusted casino and is calm that the house isn't manipulating the shuffle or game play in anyway that poses a threat to the integrity of the game.
3. He seems to have a limit. He starts with a grand that he's willing to spend and keeps the rest of his cash, credit cards and ATM card out of the casino.
4. The player knows when to stop. He avoids running back to the car to grab more cash when he has spent his limit and has a solid set goal to leave when he is ahead.
There are other things the player should be aware of and rules he should follow. I can't say whether or not he gets drunk while playing. This is something players should not practice. Drunken gambling is bad for the player. I also am unaware whether or not the player has asked the casino how many decks are being used. There are some baccarat games that use 6 decks.
If he uses the style of betting mentioned before, then he is taking advantage of the best bet, the banker, every hand. While it leads to losing 5% during flat bets of both player and banker, he tends to overcome it by getting on board the streaks. However, he can increase his winning by not playing the first hand and start with a pressed bet on the second hand betting on the winner of the 1st hand. If the banker wins the 1st hand dealt, he saves 5%.
Baccarat is a game I was looking at. I managed a 7 day winning streak before losing when I sat at the wrong table. It might be something I will look into at some point and if things go as well as they have in BJ and Roulette, I expect a 20+ day winning streak sometime in the future.
LOLQuote: rdw4potusIt is supposed to cause you to bow down before its author, who has "demonstrated" himself to be a "skilled" baccarat player.
Quote: varmentiI do want to admit that one day when I went with my wife, we indulged in some glasses of wine that took us into a "not a good state" when gambling. I do not recommend Drinking if you plan on Gambling Professionally.
So you're a professional gambler??
You must be a really gr8 player, huh?
Quote: Beethoven9thSo you're a professional gambler??
You must be a really gr8 player, huh?
I win and I lose and when I lose... I still carry a smile. Yeah I'm a Professional gambler. I'm at the Casino everyday, and when I'm not and your in town and invite me out, yea I'll accept the offer, cuz that's all I do. I treat myself to anything I want and when I need money I simply go to my personal ATM (Casino) for my daily top up.
Yeah! I'm a professional Gambler.
Quote: varmentiOK i'm gonna start referring some members on here as "Secret Handshake A$$holes" soon.
I'm going to start referring to you as the guy who got banned for three days now. Grounds are implied insult and use of profanity specifically directed at other Members in an insulting manner.
I'll update the list later, on the droid atm.
Quote: varmentiYeah! I'm a professional Gambler.
Cool, I'm a ninja on weekdays and a janitor on weekends.
Quote: Mission146I'm going to start referring to you as the guy who got banned for three days now. .
Oops. He didn't read the Wiz's rules about insulting
people with altered words. And he seemed so hip..
Quote: IbeatyouracesInteresting how ANOTHER baccarat thread gets a five start rating. Starting to see a pattern so might as well bet on it, lol.
I rate threads based on comedy value. So, you know, there's that...
Quote: AxelWolfMission why did you suspend Gr8_ayer?
Wiz has a no doppleganger rule.
That's better then a no doublegangbanger rule.Quote: EvenBobWiz has a no doppleganger rule.
doublegangbanger.com seems like a keeper
Quote: varmentiwroberson you are amazing! after reading your comment I must say that you are the type of person I like to meet in person at a Casino someday in the near future and treat you to Lunch & Dinner. You get it! and that's what I like to hear.
I do want to admit that one day when I went with my wife, we indulged in some glasses of wine that took us into a "not a good state" when gambling. I do not recommend Drinking if you plan on Gambling Professionally.
After reading what you said above about the "wine" I remember you varmenti. If i am right and you are who you are, I must say that you are amazing. I would have never guessed in a million years that you and your wife are system players. I do have a question for you though and sorry if it's off topic, You sat at my table a couple times with your wife and I remember you requested to the pit boss about not seeing a waitress in quite some time. I also noticed that every time a waitress had brung you and your wife each a glass of wine you would give her a 25.00 chip. I've seen you in the Pit quite often but never have an opportunity to ask you this question. Why is it when you see a waitress for just a few seconds and tip her 25 for two glasses of wine that cost 15.00 and you spend at least 1 hr at my table winning money but I never see you tip any of the dealers? Please don't take this the wrong way because you are a very sweet couple and very pleasing to talk to when you sit at my table. Please accept my apology if you are not the couple i may see there.
Quote: Lilchef62After reading what you said above about the "wine" I remember you varmenti. If i am right and you are who you are, I must say that you are amazing.
So gr8varmenti really does win by having a "positive attitude"? lol
Quote: AxelWolfMission why did you suspend Gr8_ayer?
Ingenius assumption on your part, AxelWolf.
I know absolutely nothing of varmenti, other than what I've read in this thread. We've no affiliation whatsoever.
Oh, and if I were varmenti, I suggest that he'd have a viable response to all of that "choppiness", because 75% of the Bac results will land within the first three "holes" on your vertical scorecard. Best learn how to respond to those rather common happenstances....
Quote: Lilchef62Why is it when you see a waitress for just a few seconds and tip her 25 for two glasses of wine that cost 15.00 and you spend at least 1 hr at my table winning money.
Look, somebody has joined the forum just to
confirm varmenti is a big winner! What a
coincidence, and how convenient.
Yes, how absolutely ridiculous that this guy thinks we are that dumb.Quote: EvenBobQuote: Lilchef62Why is it when you see a waitress for just a few seconds and tip her 25 for two glasses of wine that cost 15.00 and you spend at least 1 hr at my table winning money.
Look, somebody has joined the forum just to
confirm varmenti is a big winner! What a
coincidence, and how convenient.
What happened to Gr_playerQuote: Beethoven9thCool, gr8varmenti may be gone, but my teacher gr8player is back! ;)
Quote: AxelWolfWhat happened to Gr_player
Nothing, he's home watching TV. He can't post for a week,
but that's another story.
What rules did he violate?Quote: Beethoven9thRule violation.
But don't worry, I'm sure another member called "gr8[insert name here]" will appear sometime soon. ;)
Quote: Beethoven9thQuote: AxelWolfWhat rules did he violate?Quote: Beethoven9thRule violation.
But don't worry, I'm sure another member called "gr8[insert name here]" will appear sometime soon. ;)
Did you click the link?
Sorry to bust your bubble guys but can you take your Posts elsewhere, you guys are Hijacking my thread by flooding it with junk and not posting anything in relation to Baccarat. Does the PM not work?
I don't want to sound rude but there are other members interested in posting here too that are related to Baccarat.
Quote: varmenti
I may not know the waitress but I do know they don't get paid nearly as much as dealers and they provide a service including walking a quarter mile every day to deliver a couple glasses of wine (a special request).
Are you sure about that? Both groups make minimum wage + tips. Everybody tips the waitress, few tip the dealers. Sure, the tips to the dealers may be larger when they happen, but I think you're vastly overstating the differential in total pay.
Quote: varmentiI don't want to sound rude but there are other members interested in posting here too that are related to Baccarat.
If you're claiming that you can beat baccarat by money management and following trends, then your posts aren't related to reality.
Quote: Lilchef62After reading what you said above about the "wine" I remember you varmenti. If i am right and you are who you are, I must say that you are amazing. I would have never guessed in a million years that you and your wife are system players. I do have a question for you though and sorry if it's off topic, You sat at my table a couple times with your wife and I remember you requested to the pit boss about not seeing a waitress in quite some time. I also noticed that every time a waitress had brung you and your wife each a glass of wine you would give her a 25.00 chip. I've seen you in the Pit quite often but never have an opportunity to ask you this question. Why is it when you see a waitress for just a few seconds and tip her 25 for two glasses of wine that cost 15.00 and you spend at least 1 hr at my table winning money but I never see you tip any of the dealers? Please don't take this the wrong way because you are a very sweet couple and very pleasing to talk to when you sit at my table. Please accept my apology if you are not the couple i may see there.
Hello Lilchef62, There is a reason why I don't Tip any Dealers in the Baccarat along with many other dealers in other games.
Casino tips are shared and divided from all games to all dealers.
The only dealers that deserve tips are the ones that work the skilled games such as Roulette, The Big Wheel and any other game that involves the skill of the dealer. In that case I tip very well and in the long run you still get a percentage.
Tipping is an optional thing, but when we have a losing day, we don't expect you to give our tips back.
I may not know the waitress but I do know they don't get paid nearly as much as dealers and they provide a service including walking a quarter mile every day to deliver a couple glasses of wine (a special request).
You told me at the Casino the other day that you deal Baccarat and Black Jack. If you want to learn to deal roulette, you will understand what I mean to be a Skilled dealer to favor the tippers.
Hope that covers your question Lilchef62 and thank you for the compliments to my wife.
Quote: Beethoven9thIf you're claiming that you can beat baccarat by money management and following trends, then your posts aren't related to reality.
Don't forget the winning magic that comes from a positive mindset!
Quote: rdw4potusAre you sure about that? Both groups make minimum wage + tips. Everybody tips the waitress, few tip the dealers. Sure, the tips to the dealers may be larger when they happen, but I think you're vastly overstating the differential in total pay.
You're comparing Dealers wages with waitresses. are you ever in the casino when the dealers gather their tips? Notice the very large 3x3 Box being filled with hundreds of chips equally divided by approx 400 dealers. I tip roulette dealers 10x 1.00 right from the start because I like to put them in the game, I also tip 3-5 chips every time they roll one of my numbers. These are deserving tips because of their skill to roll those numbers.
I never tip bartenders because they collect a percentage from all the waitresses. They don't do half the work as waitresses do.
Quote: varmentiYou're comparing Dealers wages with waitresses. are you ever in the casino when the dealers gather their tips? Notice the very large 3x3 Box being filled with hundreds of chips equally divided by approx 400 dealers.
Yes, I'm in the casino when the dealers gather their tips. But, I've never seen a casino where 400 dealers work on 1 shift, and tips are split on a per-shift basis at pretty much all houses.
Also, this dodged rather than answered my post: Have you ever noticed the wad of singles and pile of chips that each waitress ends their shift with?
Quote: rdw4potusDon't forget the winning magic that comes from a positive mindset!
there are many types of people in this world. Some will only imagine or dream about things and some just do it. In the game of Baccarat, you must simply focus on playing the game and not think too much.
Don't put your focus on counting cards. If you want to count anything, Count Money instead.
Don't focus on predicting a baccarat shoe from simulations. Go play the game.
Don't bet negative. Increase your wins by at least 25% Notice i said WINS and not losses.
I hope rdw4potus you do not fall for any Martingale systems, cuz they are all Bad and you will never retire from squeezing a couple chips and risking your full bankroll every time you visit the Casino.
Quote: rdw4potusDon't forget the winning magic that comes from a positive mindset!
You got that right.
Quote: rdw4potusDon't forget the winning magic that comes from a positive mindset!
Damn, forgot to include that one...LOL!
Quote: varmenti
Increase your wins by at least 25% Notice i said WINS and not losses.
I hope rdw4potus you do not fall for any Martingale systems, cuz they are all Bad
Wow.
Quote: rdw4potusYes, I'm in the casino when the dealers gather their tips. But, I've never seen a casino where 400 dealers work on 1 shift, and tips are split on a per-shift basis at pretty much all houses.
Also, this dodged rather than answered my post: Have you ever noticed the wad of singles and pile of chips that each waitress ends their shift with?
Correction rdw4potus, Tips are split by all the dealers and sometimes supervisors, management and whoever they decide to split with.
it is determined by there Hours worked and not on a daily shift. averages can total an extra 5.00 per hour extra if not more after the tips are split.
There area couple of dealers on this forum you can ask about this in more detail.
Quote: Beethoven9thDamn, forgot to include that one...LOL!
Don't forget the winning magic that comes from a positive mindset!
Write that down in your book of System requirements Beethoven9th.
Quote: IbeatyouracesDoesn't work, never has worked, never will work.
why so negative Ibeatyouraces, Have you had a bad experience at the Casino's?
Please explain.
I know that each place is different and that better looking waitresses get tipped more, but I've known several of them who make that amount.Quote: IbeatyouracesDealers here are making just over minimum wage and with tips are averaging $20-$25 an hour. Waitresses aren't even coming close to this.
Quote: varmentiHave you had a bad experience at the Casino's?
No, we're all just capable of doing simple math here. LOL
Quote: Beethoven9thIf you're claiming that you can beat baccarat by money management and following trends, then your posts aren't related to reality.
Reality is what I see Possible. I can never predict the outcome of the Game of Baccarat but I know when I walk into a Casino and see a Streak of 15 Bankers, The reality is that it is possible.
Here is something to try at home.
1) take 3 coins in your hand and Flip them 10 times and write down the result.
2) repeat the process and record the results on another line.
3) compare the two results.
4) repeat till you gain understanding.
you will notice you flipped two tails and a head 3 times in a row on both results.
You will also notice to believe the reality that you did not roll tails 10 outta 10, because even though its possible, It's highly Unlikely you ever will.
Quote: varmentiReality is what I see Possible
This statement speaks volumes. LOL!
Quote: varmentiCorrection rdw4potus, Tips are split by all the dealers and sometimes supervisors, management and whoever they decide to split with.
it is determined by there Hours worked and not on a daily shift. averages can total an extra 5.00 per hour extra if not more after the tips are split.
There area couple of dealers on this forum you can ask about this in more detail.
Are you sure that's how it works at your casino? Most places empty the tips containers and cash drops at the same time and segregate both on a per-shift basis for accounting purposes. But, really, your "averages can total an extra 5.00 per hour..." statement is so laughably far from reality that it more than proves that you don't know what you're talking about.
Quote: Beethoven9thNo, we're all just capable of doing simple math here. LOL
So your conclusion is to just give up on gambling because your math is just not right?
maybe a 25% increase doesn't work for you. I know it doesn't work for me.
What works for me is I increase my bet 100% after the Win, 50% after Second and 3rd wins, and 30% till I get to Strictly Casino Money on my betting platform. then I lock in a profit (Small Profit) and Let the rest ride upto 75% of my winnings and hope to Catch a long run of Bankers / Players or until I reach my short term goal of $200.00 Profit per table. But not to exceed 20 hands per table.
This works for me so if you want to put math behind that method, go for it, Cuz I'm Doing it over 18 years.
Keep in mind Gambling is gambling and you have to lose and you have to win Beethoven9th.
