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varmenti
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September 22nd, 2013 at 1:26:44 AM permalink
In the game of Baccarat, Consider the following:

1) I see an 8 deck shoe of cards showing a streak of 14 Bankers. (I have seen Streaks as high as 23 Bankers but it doesn't happen all the time).

2) I also see that an 8 deck shoe consistently will show streaks of 6 Bankers / Players.

3) Dragon bet & Tie Bet is out of the question because of the High casino Odds.

4) It is highly unlikely to deal 75 out of 75 Players / Bankers in a Row. (But a consistent 3 in a row is believable)

5) It is not recommended to Parlay the full amount of your winnings 6 times in a row even though there are many tables that get streaks of 6. (It does look good to start with $25 to 50 to 100 to 200 to 400 to 800 and cash out a cool $1600.00 after your 6th win)

6) Set a daily limit to what you want to make and how much time you want to invest. (a $25.00 bettor is not likely to make $10,000 in a day)

7) Remember that most Casinos are open 24hrs per day. Don't gamble if you are tired.

Please feel free to add your thoughts and comments and what you consider in the game of Baccarat.

Please ask/post any questions related to Baccarat. I've played the game for many years and may have that perfect answer for you.

Cheers!!!
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Beethoven9th
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September 22nd, 2013 at 1:46:29 AM permalink
Awesome post, gr8player...er, I mean...varmenti. Are these shoes made for talking?
Fighting BS one post at a time!
AxelWolf
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September 22nd, 2013 at 2:00:48 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Awesome post, gr8_ayer...er, I mean...varmenti. Are these shoes made for talking?

Certainly no one would pull anything like that
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
rdw4potus
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September 22nd, 2013 at 7:36:15 AM permalink
Yep, streaks happen. Too bad they're random and not at all predictable, with past results in no way affecting future hands, so there's no way to know they're coming.
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EvenBob
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September 22nd, 2013 at 8:21:59 AM permalink
Watch for streaks. Thanks.
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7craps
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September 22nd, 2013 at 8:51:41 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

2) I also see that an 8 deck shoe consistently will show streaks of 6 Bankers / Players.

Just ignore those that do not want to discuss your betting system and playing methods by just saying it will not work.
The Wizard set up this forum so these things can be discussed openly.
I will use data (and math sometimes)

what do you mean by "consistently will show"

I have simulation data from 10 million 8 deck shoes (13,14 card ribbon)
showing the
probability of a Banker streak of 6 or more to be about 45.5%
For Player: 41.5%
so for either in one shoe
45.5% + 41.5% - 18.9% = 68.1%
or slightly more than 2 out of 3 shoes have those events

1 out of 3 NOT having these events seems to be not very consistent IMO

how large is your actual playing sample size
that may have made you come to this conclusion

thank you for sharing
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
EvenBob
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September 22nd, 2013 at 9:00:40 AM permalink
Nice post 7craps, leaves no wiggle room at all.
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rob45
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September 22nd, 2013 at 9:24:27 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

I have simulation data from 10 million 8 deck shoes (13,14 card ribbon)
showing the
probability of a Banker streak of 6 or more to be about 45.5%
For Player: 41.5%
so for either in one shoe
45.5% + 41.5% - 18.9% = 68.1%
or slightly more than 2 out of 3 shoes have those events

1 out of 3 NOT having these events seems to be not very consistent IMO


Sounds a lot like those who bet two of the 2:1 bets (dozens or columns) on roulette. "We've got more than half of it covered, so we're winners for sure!" It's amazing the casino is still in business.
Why are you combining the streak probabilities of both the Player and Banker (opposing bets)?
rdw4potus
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September 22nd, 2013 at 9:36:12 AM permalink
Quote: rob45


Why are you combining the streak probabilities of both the Player and Banker (opposing bets)?



The system that is being touted involves betting both sides at the same time. Yep, so we're starting from a good place...
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varmenti
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September 22nd, 2013 at 10:34:27 AM permalink
Sunday, Sept. 23rd 1:24

Just finished another session at Fallsview Casino.

Played 3 Shoes since 10am and made out very well.

1st shoe for those of you who were also there would have noticed the starting 10am shoe turned out very good showing multiple streaks of 4 bankers followed by a couple BPBPbp chops and ending with streak of 8 Players. Profit made for that shoe was pretty good (1000 buyin > 1775.00 Payout = 775 profit. not bad for 1 hr.

2nd shoe started chopping right away untill 35 hands then hit streak of 6 bankers followed by chop then a couple 4 streaks and ending with 7 players. The 1000.00 buyin dropping drastically at the beginning had brought back just over 900 ending in a small loss of 100.00 for that 1hr session.

3rd shoe was brutal. started really nice with bank streak of 6 followed shortly after with Player run of 5, then went to Chopping all through the shoe. even though was in profit at the start. ended with just under 900.00 for that session.

Tommorow is yet another day.
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